Wood Elf/ Bosmer losing stealth passive, An open letter.

  • Alucardmike
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    OsManiaC wrote: »
    maybe they make special bosmer DLC, where we can hunt and eat well --- you know - #justbosmerthings.

    There are not many regions left...
    Only a falinesti DLC could work, but it would be to much for the engine, I think...
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  • Ratzkifal
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    OsManiaC wrote: »
    maybe they make special bosmer DLC, where we can hunt and eat well --- you know - #justbosmerthings.

    Hopefully. But from the looks of it, that won't come before Q2 2020, as Q1 is almost certainly going to be yet another dungeon DLC and the rest of the season of the dragon is already set in stone. We can only hope that in Pelletine the jungle allows for more sneakiness and that ZOS addresses our problems by then. The dragon guard will probably take the main focus of that DLC, so we'll probably not get that awesome new stealth system that's supposed to fix everything.
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
  • Ratzkifal
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    OsManiaC wrote: »
    maybe they make special bosmer DLC, where we can hunt and eat well --- you know - #justbosmerthings.

    There are not many regions left...
    Only a falinesti DLC could work, but it would be to much for the engine, I think...

    Not if Falinesti is outside of Tamriel and won't return during our visit there. Then it would just be like Artaeum and Clockwork City.
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
  • Cundu_Ertur
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    Fast orcs (should be a low one it's kinda minor).

    Archery combat bonuses for Imperials, Redguards, Dunmer, and Orcs -- but none for Bosmer.

    Maybe:
    The Nord alliance with the Dunmer, too. I remember being surprised the Nords have given up Solstheim after the Red Year since that was a relationship that had always been strained.

    Dragons everywhere.

    Taking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty.
  • Taloros
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    Met a new player who had his character a bosmer, probably not knowing that he had picked a race with questionable passives. Made me a little sad.
  • anadandy
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    Ratzkifal wrote: »
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=KuT5h7IzliA

    Oh would you look at that. FudgeMuppet made a video on Bosmer. And what does he say at 5:07 ?
    Bosmer are also known very quick, nimble and agile and more specifically, very stealthy and also natural born archers.
    It gets even more juicy at 8:47 about the rite of theft. Sadly the forest coupling is not mentioned, but then again we haven't really seen it in any of the games (possibly because it's impossible to implement).

    If you are wondering why this is relevant, well FudgeMuppet is a TES lore channel but focusing more on Skyrim and TESVI speculations. Although he uses ESO lore for some of his videos (sometimes even letting it shine through when it's not making much sense), it's pretty clear he doesn't play the game. So he's pretty much an outside view unaffected by the balance decisions taken by ZOS and ESO's patch history. If he can recognize that Woodelfs are stealthy and we can recognize that Woodelfs are stealthy, then why can't ZOS?

    Edit: How do you make the thumbnail and video appear in here and not just the URL?

    If it's from youtube just put [ youtube ] video id [ / youtube ] around it (get rid of spaces)
    Edited by anadandy on June 15, 2019 2:29AM
  • Ratzkifal
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    @anadandy

    Thanks! I got it now :3
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    "Redguards aren't best swordsmen"

    I mean through all games we heard that Redguards have exceptional melee martial skill, notably higher then other races, but now they are clearly behind Orcs and Dunmers which is strange imo.


  • JobooAGS
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    "Redguards aren't best swordsmen"

    I mean through all games we heard that Redguards have exceptional melee martial skill, notably higher then other races, but now they are clearly behind Orcs and Dunmers which is strange imo.


    Redguards are best with weapons in general, with a huge emphesis on swords
  • MartiniDaniels
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    JobooAGS wrote: »
    ^
    "Redguards aren't best swordsmen"

    I mean through all games we heard that Redguards have exceptional melee martial skill, notably higher then other races, but now they are clearly behind Orcs and Dunmers which is strange imo.


    Redguards are best with weapons in general, with a huge emphesis on swords

    Yes, best with melee bladed weapons like swords, scimitars, axes. But not with bows and magic staves.
  • JobooAGS
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    JobooAGS wrote: »
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    "Redguards aren't best swordsmen"

    I mean through all games we heard that Redguards have exceptional melee martial skill, notably higher then other races, but now they are clearly behind Orcs and Dunmers which is strange imo.


    Redguards are best with weapons in general, with a huge emphesis on swords

    Yes, best with melee bladed weapons like swords, scimitars, axes. But not with bows and magic staves.

    https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Redguard_(Arena)
    https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Redguard_(Daggerfall)
    https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Redguard_(Morrowind)
    https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Redguard_(Oblivion)
    https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Redguard_(Skyrim)

    All of these state at the very least more proficient with weapons if not the best at them and did not exclude bows/staves. They also suggest an emphasis on swords/blades. Not to mention the lack of poison resistance in which the main article states
    https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Redguard


    Edit: If combat were a grading scale, Redguards would score straight As at all weapons with a big A+ on swords. I can agree that they will score lower with magic due to their weariness of magic in general. Bosmers would easily get top grades with an A+ at bows, Altmer with staves and so on.
    Edited by JobooAGS on June 14, 2019 3:48PM
  • thegreatme
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    Oh are we coming up with lore trees to compliment Bos' completely lore-friendly changes? How about vegan vampires? They're not allowed in Valenwood obviously, but then again who's going to stop them since we're not stealthy enough to catch them in the act anyway :D
    Edited by thegreatme on June 15, 2019 7:14AM
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  • Cundu_Ertur
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    Looks good, Raven.
    Taking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty.
  • OsManiaC
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    wish someone reached them at E3. 77 pages and no effect
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    Don't worry, the tail grows back!
    if it breathes we eats. #justbosmerthings - we can detect stealth boy NPCs and hunt them thanks to our skill!

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