Suggestion: Create a PvE Cyrodiil.

Skullstachio

As it has been mentioned numerous times over the course of 2018, I am just gonna suggest this:

How will it appeal to the community if ESO had a Cyrodiil Campaign that supported the complete PvE aspect of the game with a twist?

most of you may know Cyrodiil has always been a Pvp thing since Day 1, I can Agree 100%, but with how the rest of the community has been reacting with the Performance In PvP in the Cyrodiilic campaigns, what other options are there to consider aside from improving PvP and the game as a whole with some sort of graphics slider to sacrifice quality over enhanced performance. but here's the thing.

Idea for PvE type Cyrodiil:

1. you will not be able to fight other players in any way, just NPC's.
2. the NPC's will be stronger than before to compensate as well as a slight NPC increase near keeps, resource nodes, etc based on that nodes level.
3. Alliance point gains should/will be reduced by 40% or at least downright halved.
4. Assault/Support Skill line XP gains will remain marginally the same.
5. The 6 main keeps required for a player to become emperor will each have a powerful keep Boss (Equivalent to a Base Veteran Dungeon Boss) that must be slain in order to capture a keep.

the plus side to this is that players may not have to worry as much about performance but as an old proverbial saying goes: Solve one problem, and another shall rise to take it's place.

peacenote

No. (Comment Why.)

Until/unless PvE and PvP are totally, completely separated, which would change the direction of this game to its core imo, this would just be against the spirit of ESO.

There are skills and achievements that require people to both PvE and PvP. I'm Ok with it.

This suggestion would remove some of the "PvP" aspect for PvE'ers but not the "PvE" aspect for PvP'ers. This is unbalanced and I'd rather things stay the way they are.

NupidStoob

The way current campaigns work people already play more PvE or PvD there than actual PvP. At least on PC EU outside of prime time people are not really trying to fight anyways. On Vivec you have AD, on Sotha EP and on Shor DC.

zyk

No. (Comment Why.)

No.

Hippie4927

No. (Comment Why.)

If you want a PVE Cyrodiil, there should be NO alliance points, NO assault/support skill line, and NO emperor. If you want those things, do what was intended in Cyrodiil.........PVP!

Dojohoda

No. (Comment Why.)

They could name it "Chillrodiil"



Overall, I'm not for it, but actually I am kinda neutral as long as it doesn't affect real cyrodiil where the battle is raging. If they did, I want pve'ers to get Zero AP since you wouldn't be working for your alliance in an actual battle. Nothing in pve compares to PVP fighting.

Hoolielulu

No. (Comment Why.)

What? No.

Yes, the performance is a major issue but Cyrodiil is a unique experience. I'd hate to see it turned into another PVE area.

Katahdin

No. (Comment Why.)

No

The ONLY acceptable way for a PvE Cyrodil would be with the following caveats

NO AP gain whatsoever
NO alliance rank gain
NO alliance skill gain
NO way to get Emperor whatsoever
NO Telvar

ONLY quests and delves for the same sort of rewards that regular quests in PvE land have: some gold and a green, blue or purple item.

Thats it

AP is a PVP currency
Emperor is a PVP achievement and should not be gotten with PvE, Period

If you want AP rewards and Emperor, spend time in PvP like everyone else that got it did

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haelene

No. (Comment Why.)

Katahdin wrote: »

No

The ONLY acceptable way for a PvE Cyrodil would be with the following caveats

NO AP gain whatsoever
NO alliance rank gain
NO alliance skill gain
NO way to get Emperor whatsoever
NO Telvar

ONLY quests and delves for the same sort of rewards that regular quests in PvE land have: some gold and a green, blue or purple item.

Thats it

AP is a PVP currency
Emperor is a PVP achievement and should not be gotten with PvE, Period

If you want AP rewards and Emperor, spend time in PvP like everyone else that got it did

.

As a hardcore PvE'er who loathes PvP I agree 100% with this. Cyrodill is a PvP zone, and it's rewards should be for PvPing.

Narvuntien

No. (Comment Why.)

If you want to experience you got to risk it for the skyshards.

I have way way way more skyshards that I have a use for in this game so there is no point in a PVE cryodil.

I get that there are some minor stories going on in cryodil but you can just do them find a group and go do them.

dem0n1k

Are you sure that a PVE instance won't have the same performance issues as a PVP instance of Cyrodiil? It seems like a stretch to blame all the performance issues on players fighting players vs players fighting NPCs. I suspect that if the zerg sizes are similar, the performance will also be similar.

Personally, I'd rather PVP in a laggy Cyro than PVE only in Cyro.

Katahdin

No. (Comment Why.)

dem0n1k wrote: »

Are you sure that a PVE instance won't have the same performance issues as a PVP instance of Cyrodiil? It seems like a stretch to blame all the performance issues on players fighting players vs players fighting NPCs. I suspect that if the zerg sizes are similar, the performance will also be similar.

Personally, I'd rather PVP in a laggy Cyro than PVE only in Cyro.

Given that Shor experiences far less lag than Vivec, I would say that yes a PvE only Cyrodiil would have much less lag because players would not (or should not) be so stacked up.

As I stated above I would be fine with a PvE only Cyrodiil with the caveats I listed so that people that just want to do the quests and explore can do so. There are some players that just want to be able to do those without risk of PvP.

However, I suspect that this is yet another attempt to try and get Alliance skills unlocked and emperor achievements without having to do any PvP which I am firmly against.

Shinshadow

No. (Comment Why.)

They did already. It's called "OBLIVION".

_Salty_

No. (Comment Why.)

If you want Solo play only then you should play a Solo game like Skyrim. Please no more garbage threads people.

Spark

No. (Comment Why.)

Why? Cyrodiil is a very plain and empty zone, and meaning to it is brought specifically by it having other players.

Also, regarding your points: AP is the xp for Alliance War skill lines. You can't halve AP and keep that the same.

But essentially, all you're saying is "give me all these rewards and a chance to become emperor, but without the challenge!"

SHADOW2KK

Dead horse springs to mind..

IndorilArwynLlethran

Maybe. (Comment advised but optional.)

I vote "may be" cos I'm complitely with the idea to separate PVE from PVP forever. But. If there's no Alliance War, from whom you will take keeps? Mobs? Ok, you've taken it. Once. You come tomorrow and? It's still yours, no one else needs it, cos there's no war between Alliances and your quest is complete.
Redisigning Cyro to another Trial, insanely huge Trial, with for example a week cooldown, will cost ZOS looootsa time and resources. More new bugs. Less fixing existing bugs. Another wave of "balancing". Are you sure it's what you want?

Unfadingsilence

No. (Comment Why.)

Nope, never it's PVP L2P or get out, yep sorry you want both skill lines and certain abilities that go along with them. But you need to earn them like everyone else and suffer the consequences of trying to do Quest and being attacked by other players at the same time if you want carebear PVP go play fallout, and also about the skill lines you can max them out in a day if you put in your work "meaning follow a zerg and just get those ticks" you don't need to kill anyone especially how easy it is to level both skill lines as compared to pre Imperial City. Like ppl say to PVP wanting BIS PVE gear L2P and gitgud. The way the game is set up it is relatively easy to be able to do both endgame PVE content and PVP content just know your class and play the game. bye bye

Claudman

Maybe not. (comment advised.)

:thinking:

As someone who plays both PvE and PvP I'm neutral about this but...I feel separating the two may unintentionally thin the population or even increase server strain...But locking crucial skills behind AvA and BG is kinda poopy, I can see why starting PvE'ers hate PvP.

MattT1988

No. (Comment Why.)

I hate the PVP in this game with an absolute passion. But us in PVE land don’t need Cyrodill, we have enough zones. Let PVP keep it.

TheShadowScout

No. (Comment Why.)

Not unless they also create a feature for PvPlayers to gank everyone they want in PvE regions if they feel like it.
Which would be awful.

So, leave the PvP regions for PvP, and the PvE regions for PvE. As the developers intended.

The_Saint

No. (Comment Why.)

It would be absolut boring... Because this zone is designed for pvp.

ZeroXFF

Absolutely.

The AP gain shouldn't be halved, it should be doubled, because those dailies in towns are a joke, and there are no players to kill.

max_only

No. (Comment Why.)

I want a PvE Cyrodiil.

But there wouldn’t be any AP there at all.

Hippie4927 wrote: »

If you want a PVE Cyrodiil, there should be NO alliance points, NO assault/support skill line, and NO emperor. If you want those things, do what was intended in Cyrodiil.........PVP!

Agree

Deep_01

No. (Comment Why.)

I'd like a copy of every PvE zone to be PvP enabled.

ArchMikem

We've been down this road and up this tree before. Threads like this attract nothing but PvPers demanding open world PvP as compensation, as well as telling you to git gud.

Deep_01 wrote: »

I'd like a copy of every PvE zone to be PvP enabled.

My point.

Jamdarius

No. (Comment Why.)

There is no problem at all with doing PvE quests or even fishing achievements in PvP campaign, most of them are quite empty now during working days and only on weekends you will need to watch out for any PvP players. As somebody who has done all quests in game (including all DLC's, dung quests, dailys, heck even done story in imperial city etc.) I can say I have been mostly hunted down in Imperial City as players tend to farm tel-var stones it seems and I happened to encounter myself to be in situation 1 vs 5+, in cyrodil though - given how big it is I was attacked once 1 vs 1 and I killed attacker instead

Knootewoot

No. (Comment Why.)

No. Because everything you need from PVP you can get easily even without playing PvP. The shards, dolmens, skills can be obtained by just exploring and repairing walls.

Most people did all those things in the PvP haydays with 1000's running around. Nobody had issues back then. And most fight are now sporadically and only at keeps. The wilderness is as save as a baby's crib.

But wait... there is more. I don't like PvE that much. But guess what?

For skill points i need to do quests and dungeons: PvE
For certain weapon/armor sets i need to kill monsters and do dungeons/trials, multiple times: PvE
I want a master weapon but have to do a dumb arena which i don't like. Done it once and that was enough: PvE
I want mealstom weapons, guess what i have to do? PvE

So you want something from Cyrodill? You just go there and stop complaining. There is little chance you even need to participate in PvP

Kel

No. (Comment Why.)

ArchMikem wrote: »

We've been down this road and up this tree before. Threads like this attract nothing but PvPers demanding open world PvP as compensation, as well as telling you to git gud.

Deep_01 wrote: »

I'd like a copy of every PvE zone to be PvP enabled.

My point.

What's the point exactly? That you should ask and receive what you want, but not the other way around?

I don't agree with either, to be honest.
You want rewards, you do the thing that gets you the rewards....that includes doing PvE for Undaunted and other rewards and doing PvP for the rewards offered in Cyrodiil and battlegrounds.
If not....
https://imgur.com/gallery/HGjVu

Tandor

No. (Comment Why.)

This would be offering PvP rewards for completing PvE content which I'm totally against, consistent with my opposition to those who want the Justice System to offer PvP penalties for completing PvE content.

mague

Maybe. (Comment advised but optional.)

Funny question. Wont happen ever. Just as we dont get a non-cc and non-proc campaign.

I d be happy to see PvE players do the PvE content. But honestly raid a keep general to be emperor ? And everyone becomes emp or who ? If it wasnt about the population i d allow players with a white flag to do the dungeons and anchors. But no AP