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Which is the most difficult 4 person dungeon in the game?

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Edited by CheepsNSalsa on October 1, 2017 7:35AM

Which is the most difficult 4 person dungeon in the game? 222 votes

Cradle of Shadows
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Ruins of Mazzatun
30%
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Bloodroot Forge
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Falkreath Hold
13%
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White-Gold Tower
4%
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Imperial City Prison
6%
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Other
8%
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  • Taylor_MB
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  • Jhalin
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    Ruins of Mazzatun
    RoM all but requires coms to complete HM, not to mention being [snip] annoying with that spice garbage

    [Edited to remove profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on October 17, 2017 7:07PM
  • Pele
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    For pugs, all of the above plus Tempest Island and City of Ash 2.
  • bebynnag
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    dragon star arena, with a pug group!
  • ArchMikem
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    Trash mobs in Vet Wayrest have insane health pools and i dont know why.
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  • Tasear
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    Falkreath Hold
    Healer can't carry you there. Now the rest is different
  • Olupajmibanan
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    Ruins of Mazzatun
    bebynnag wrote: »
    dragon star arena, with a pug group!

    DSA is a trial AFAIK, not a dungeon, thus not belonging to this poll.
  • hydrocynus
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    Cradle of Shadows
    .... if you are including the hard modes.

    But at launch imperial city prison was insane. Just getting to the final boss was an achievement.

    The was far more QQ on forums about Flesh Sculptor and Inhibitor than there was for any other DLC dungeons since.
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  • Runschei
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    Ruins of Mazzatun
    Seeing as I never managed to run around in Cradle of Shadows during the free ESO+ trial and that I do not have HotR, I guess Ruins of Mazzatun.
  • mocap
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    Cradle of Shadows
    nRoM is easy if know dat poison + fountain mechanic. At least tank and healer must know it.
  • bebynnag
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    bebynnag wrote: »
    dragon star arena, with a pug group!

    DSA is a trial AFAIK, not a dungeon, thus not belonging to this poll.

    **whispers**

    clearly your missing the subtle point i was making that none of the dungeons are difficult,

    and the blatently obvious point that DSA is only difficult with a pug group,

    and BTW both it & vMA are classified as arena's not trials or dungeons!

    your welcome!
  • theamazingx
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    Ruins of Mazzatun
    I dislike the CoS HM more, personally, but RoM’s is a real pug killer without communication. Good chance I’d say Bloodroot if I’d spent enough time in there to make an informed decision.
  • SquareSausage
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    Falkreath Hold
    Know the mechs for all previous dungeons inside out so no longer challenging, though vRoM HM i never want to do again.

    The new ones, less experience, so hardest for me atm.
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  • LordGavus
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    Ruins of Mazzatun
    I haven't done HotR enough yet to comment. But mazz is the hardest imo.

    Though I've had so many fails in WGT, but that's just due to pugs beings pugs.
  • code65536
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    Bloodroot Forge
    Final boss in Bloodroot vet HM is probably the most difficult fight to reliably complete no-death because there is just too much RNG-induced chaos. Some runs, it's clean as a whistle, and some runs the lava spawn locations just deny us way too much space. Bloodroot vet non-HM is a joke, though.

    As for the other dungeons...

    Cradle vet HM: At least one person should be running Efficient Purge for the group (none of this "here's my ritual, just use my synergy!" nonsense--by the time someone finds and activates the flakey synergy prompt, the poison has likely taken too much of a toll already). We found that it's best to have a tank that has health as their largest pool and have that tank never use their ultimate. The color of the orbs changes based on the stat pools of the person whose ultimate Velidreth eats, so if we force her to always eat the tank's ultimate (she always eats the person with the most amount of ultimate), then we'll always get red balls, which are a lot more forgiving and easy to manage. Maze-running, noticing and blocking or shielding the statue bombs, and dodging the spikes are all pretty easy once you've gotten practice with them.

    Mazzatun vet HM: We used to think that this dungeon's final boss fight was the worst RNG cancerfest. And then we perfected a strategy that mitigates the RNG and allows us to reliably no-death this fight. Don't ever drop ultimates all at once. Coordinate and rotate ultimates (with healer running a destro ultimate to be used as backup if a DPS whose ultimate is next in line gets the hallucination) so that you always have one ult on the totem and one ult on an add pack. The stoneshapers' channel can be interrupted with a hard CC, so be sure to not give them CC immunity before they start the channel and then CC them once they start (best way is to make sure the tank chains them right after they start their channel; it means bringing them into the stack a few seconds late, but that well-timed CC from the chain is more important). Everyone should stay together and move as one to the statue that needs to be broken. Vigor from tank or stam DPS, tank's ig shields and personal responsibility from the DPS go a long way to ensuring that you survive a healer getting hallucination.

    Falkreath vet HM: It's chaotic, and there's a lot of damage, but it's all manageable. It just takes practice/familiarity, good player awareness, and good coordination within the group.
    Edited by code65536 on October 2, 2017 2:22AM
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  • phileunderx2
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    Any of the 2 dungeons on normal with a pug.
  • duagloth
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    Imperial City Prison
    I can't solo it entirely :(
  • Wifeaggro13
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    Other

    i find it extremely sad that ZOS has no sense of direction. it makes no sense an old DLC dungeon pack is more challenging and rewarding than the new DLC. In al honesty, the game needs new hands and eyes on it. i played morrowind with a Warden for about 20 levels . after 1 tam hit and i saw the absloute devaluing of roles and a complete focus on independent performance in dps and a lack of understanding of group content this dev team has created i hung up this game. My greatest hope for ESO is they hire a new director and lead combat designer and move the current ones onto single player games where they can truly shine. Right now eso is a vortex of balance and half finshed ideas and game systems.
  • thawks
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    Cradle of Shadows
    With hard mode and no voice chat? In my experience it goes something like this:

    CoS > BF > RoM > FH > WGT > ICP

    Mostly based on how much RNG can mess you up.
  • Tasear
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    Falkreath Hold
    bebynnag wrote: »
    bebynnag wrote: »
    dragon star arena, with a pug group!

    DSA is a trial AFAIK, not a dungeon, thus not belonging to this poll.

    **whispers**

    clearly your missing the subtle point i was making that none of the dungeons are difficult,

    and the blatently obvious point that DSA is only difficult with a pug group,

    and BTW both it & vMA are classified as arena's not trials or dungeons!

    your welcome!

    VDSA shows up as a weekly trial, so....
  • bebynnag
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    Tasear wrote: »
    bebynnag wrote: »
    bebynnag wrote: »
    dragon star arena, with a pug group!

    DSA is a trial AFAIK, not a dungeon, thus not belonging to this poll.

    **whispers**

    clearly your missing the subtle point i was making that none of the dungeons are difficult,

    and the blatently obvious point that DSA is only difficult with a pug group,

    and BTW both it & vMA are classified as arena's not trials or dungeons!

    your welcome!

    VDSA shows up as a weekly trial, so....

    Dragon Star ARENA

    ARENA being the operative word here,
  • FluffyReachWitch
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    Ruins of Mazzatun
    Did a 2-person run of RoM. Most of it was okay. Most of it. I'm still scared of Mighty Chudan.
  • AbysmalGhul
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Trash mobs in Vet Wayrest have insane health pools and i dont know why.

    They are terminators sent from the future to destroy us. They're like hungry piranha that disembowel you in a matter of seconds. I agree, there's something fishy with that dungeon.
  • akl77
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    Ruins of Mazzatun
    How is cradle hard, I really don't get it.
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    Pele wrote: »
    For pugs, all of the above plus Tempest Island and City of Ash 2.

    Tempest island is actually really easy if people learn the boss mechanic (she can't kill you if you stay close to her). Unfortunately, every team has a Legolas who refuses to fight at close range.
  • zaria
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Trash mobs in Vet Wayrest have insane health pools and i dont know why.
    First trash in Wayrest 1 is special hard :)
    Wonder if anybody has managed to wipe on it.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    Bloodroot Forge
    I wanna say Bloodforge. Mazzatun can be done fairly well with a good group.
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  • Thogard
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    akl77 wrote: »
    How is cradle hard, I really don't get it.

    I feel the same way about RoM

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  • AbysmalGhul
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    zaria wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Trash mobs in Vet Wayrest have insane health pools and i dont know why.
    First trash in Wayrest 1 is special hard :)
    Wonder if anybody has managed to wipe on it.

    Most randoms do get annihilated. I enjoy watching them run oblivious into the beating they're about to take.

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