Sorcs and Favoritism

Drishtan

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

I mean it the only time I can interrupt that skill is if im spamming bash as a magic toon. Well guess what I can only bash a few time then guess what i cant break free if i get cced.

FIX DARK DEAL NOW! Increase cast time to 2.2 sec minimum!!!

That's not "fixing" that's rendering a skill useless. The only way to prevent the "spam" of Dark Deal is making the resource return happen over several seconds after casting. So the heal happens instantly after the channel, but the resource is restored over 3 or 4 seconds (keeping the same resource return as its no longer spammable). Dark Deal should totally have a more obvious animation, but it still has counterplay unlike any other class specific resource return mechanic in the game (Battle Roar and Helping Hands don't have counters, neither does Repentance or Channeled Focus, neither do Siphoning Attacks, all of which have been unnecessarily nerfed).

Also the heal is already 8k.

Also stop writing in caps you look like a child. If you seriously think that without providing any arguments/evidence to support your claim and writing in cap is going to get you a dev response, you're very wrong.

Sometimes I'm wondering whether some people prioritize getting other classes nerfed or whether they prioritize reverting the nerfs to their own classes... Seems like the former.

Actually the heal is 10k.

And about CAPs ILL DO WHAT I WANT!

You wonder if we just want to nerf other class???? Are you kidding me? SORCs WHERE LEFT UNTOUCHED in 2 sets of patch notes when EVERY OTHER CLASS WAS CHANGED! HOW IS THAT BALANCED???

Merlin13KAGL

Drishtan wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

I mean it the only time I can interrupt that skill is if im spamming bash as a magic toon. Well guess what I can only bash a few time then guess what i cant break free if i get cced.

FIX DARK DEAL NOW! Increase cast time to 2.2 sec minimum!!!

That's not "fixing" that's rendering a skill useless. The only way to prevent the "spam" of Dark Deal is making the resource return happen over several seconds after casting. So the heal happens instantly after the channel, but the resource is restored over 3 or 4 seconds (keeping the same resource return as its no longer spammable). Dark Deal should totally have a more obvious animation, but it still has counterplay unlike any other class specific resource return mechanic in the game (Battle Roar and Helping Hands don't have counters, neither does Repentance or Channeled Focus, neither do Siphoning Attacks, all of which have been unnecessarily nerfed).

Also the heal is already 8k.

Also stop writing in caps you look like a child. If you seriously think that without providing any arguments/evidence to support your claim and writing in cap is going to get you a dev response, you're very wrong.

Sometimes I'm wondering whether some people prioritize getting other classes nerfed or whether they prioritize reverting the nerfs to their own classes... Seems like the former.

Actually the heal is 10k.

And about CAPs ILL DO WHAT I WANT!

You wonder if we just want to nerf other class???? Are you kidding me? SORCs WHERE LEFT UNTOUCHED in 2 sets of patch notes when EVERY OTHER CLASS WAS CHANGED! HOW IS THAT BALANCED???

Gotta love that completely non-childish response given.

You should yell more, Drish. Oh, an tag a whole bunch more moderators, because that works everytime, too.

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What 12 pages worth of bs seem to miss thus far is that other class passives give other functionality - functionality Sorc passives don't generally get like bonuses to heals, damage, mitigation.

LA gets better regen/cost redux (which were both nerfed, btw) at the expense of mitigation.

And the heal from Dark Deal, either morph is 8059 otherwise known as 8k, just like @IzakiBrotherSs tried to tell you.

Kilandros

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

I mean it the only time I can interrupt that skill is if im spamming bash as a magic toon. Well guess what I can only bash a few time then guess what i cant break free if i get cced.

FIX DARK DEAL NOW! Increase cast time to 2.2 sec minimum!!!

That's not "fixing" that's rendering a skill useless. The only way to prevent the "spam" of Dark Deal is making the resource return happen over several seconds after casting. So the heal happens instantly after the channel, but the resource is restored over 3 or 4 seconds (keeping the same resource return as its no longer spammable). Dark Deal should totally have a more obvious animation, but it still has counterplay unlike any other class specific resource return mechanic in the game (Battle Roar and Helping Hands don't have counters, neither does Repentance or Channeled Focus, neither do Siphoning Attacks, all of which have been unnecessarily nerfed).

Also the heal is already 8k.

Also stop writing in caps you look like a child. If you seriously think that without providing any arguments/evidence to support your claim and writing in cap is going to get you a dev response, you're very wrong.

Sometimes I'm wondering whether some people prioritize getting other classes nerfed or whether they prioritize reverting the nerfs to their own classes... Seems like the former.

Actually the heal is 10k.

And about CAPs ILL DO WHAT I WANT!

You wonder if we just want to nerf other class???? Are you kidding me? SORCs WHERE LEFT UNTOUCHED in 2 sets of patch notes when EVERY OTHER CLASS WAS CHANGED! HOW IS THAT BALANCED???

Gotta love that completely non-childish response given.

You should yell more, Drish. Oh, an tag a whole bunch more moderators, because that works everytime, too.

Check out these other helpful hints

What 12 pages worth of bs seem to miss thus far is that other class passives give other functionality - functionality Sorc passives don't generally get like bonuses to heals, damage, mitigation.

LA gets better regen/cost redux (which were both nerfed, btw) at the expense of mitigation.

And the heal from Dark Deal, either morph is 8059 otherwise known as 8k, just like @IzakiBrotherSs tried to tell you.

You don't think Sorc passives give functionality? Sorcs have the strongest passives in the game. Full stop. Implosion, Expert Mage, Blood Magic, POWER STONE, Energized, etc.

That is the single most OP list of passives in game. What drugs are you guys on??

Minalan

Kilandros wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

I mean it the only time I can interrupt that skill is if im spamming bash as a magic toon. Well guess what I can only bash a few time then guess what i cant break free if i get cced.

FIX DARK DEAL NOW! Increase cast time to 2.2 sec minimum!!!

That's not "fixing" that's rendering a skill useless. The only way to prevent the "spam" of Dark Deal is making the resource return happen over several seconds after casting. So the heal happens instantly after the channel, but the resource is restored over 3 or 4 seconds (keeping the same resource return as its no longer spammable). Dark Deal should totally have a more obvious animation, but it still has counterplay unlike any other class specific resource return mechanic in the game (Battle Roar and Helping Hands don't have counters, neither does Repentance or Channeled Focus, neither do Siphoning Attacks, all of which have been unnecessarily nerfed).

Also the heal is already 8k.

Also stop writing in caps you look like a child. If you seriously think that without providing any arguments/evidence to support your claim and writing in cap is going to get you a dev response, you're very wrong.

Sometimes I'm wondering whether some people prioritize getting other classes nerfed or whether they prioritize reverting the nerfs to their own classes... Seems like the former.

Actually the heal is 10k.

And about CAPs ILL DO WHAT I WANT!

You wonder if we just want to nerf other class???? Are you kidding me? SORCs WHERE LEFT UNTOUCHED in 2 sets of patch notes when EVERY OTHER CLASS WAS CHANGED! HOW IS THAT BALANCED???

Gotta love that completely non-childish response given.

You should yell more, Drish. Oh, an tag a whole bunch more moderators, because that works everytime, too.

Check out these other helpful hints

What 12 pages worth of bs seem to miss thus far is that other class passives give other functionality - functionality Sorc passives don't generally get like bonuses to heals, damage, mitigation.

LA gets better regen/cost redux (which were both nerfed, btw) at the expense of mitigation.

And the heal from Dark Deal, either morph is 8059 otherwise known as 8k, just like @IzakiBrotherSs tried to tell you.

You don't think Sorc passives give functionality? Sorcs have the strongest passives in the game. Full stop. Implosion, Expert Mage, Blood Magic, POWER STONE, Energized, etc.

That is the single most OP list of passives in game. What drugs are you guys on??

You forgot the passive that gives an 8% bonus to max Magicka.

Oh wait sorry, that's a *nightblade* passive. To get 8% max Magicka bonus Sorcs have to double slot a toggle skill.

Sorc passives are better though! We get a 5% proc execute on people with no health left anyways!

Kilandros

Minalan wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

I mean it the only time I can interrupt that skill is if im spamming bash as a magic toon. Well guess what I can only bash a few time then guess what i cant break free if i get cced.

FIX DARK DEAL NOW! Increase cast time to 2.2 sec minimum!!!

That's not "fixing" that's rendering a skill useless. The only way to prevent the "spam" of Dark Deal is making the resource return happen over several seconds after casting. So the heal happens instantly after the channel, but the resource is restored over 3 or 4 seconds (keeping the same resource return as its no longer spammable). Dark Deal should totally have a more obvious animation, but it still has counterplay unlike any other class specific resource return mechanic in the game (Battle Roar and Helping Hands don't have counters, neither does Repentance or Channeled Focus, neither do Siphoning Attacks, all of which have been unnecessarily nerfed).

Also the heal is already 8k.

Also stop writing in caps you look like a child. If you seriously think that without providing any arguments/evidence to support your claim and writing in cap is going to get you a dev response, you're very wrong.

Sometimes I'm wondering whether some people prioritize getting other classes nerfed or whether they prioritize reverting the nerfs to their own classes... Seems like the former.

Actually the heal is 10k.

And about CAPs ILL DO WHAT I WANT!

You wonder if we just want to nerf other class???? Are you kidding me? SORCs WHERE LEFT UNTOUCHED in 2 sets of patch notes when EVERY OTHER CLASS WAS CHANGED! HOW IS THAT BALANCED???

Gotta love that completely non-childish response given.

You should yell more, Drish. Oh, an tag a whole bunch more moderators, because that works everytime, too.

Check out these other helpful hints

What 12 pages worth of bs seem to miss thus far is that other class passives give other functionality - functionality Sorc passives don't generally get like bonuses to heals, damage, mitigation.

LA gets better regen/cost redux (which were both nerfed, btw) at the expense of mitigation.

And the heal from Dark Deal, either morph is 8059 otherwise known as 8k, just like @IzakiBrotherSs tried to tell you.

You don't think Sorc passives give functionality? Sorcs have the strongest passives in the game. Full stop. Implosion, Expert Mage, Blood Magic, POWER STONE, Energized, etc.

That is the single most OP list of passives in game. What drugs are you guys on??

You forgot the passive that gives an 8% bonus to max Magicka.

Oh wait sorry, that's a *nightblade* passive. To get 8% max Magicka bonus Sorcs have to double slot a toggle skill.

Sorc passives are better though! We get a 5% proc execute on people with no health left anyways!

This is why you guys are delusional. I give a list of incredibly powerful passives. You respond with one--ONE--Nightblade passive that is strong. Lol, just lol at Sorcs.

Mutey

Malamar1229 wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

I'm not saying that. But you appear to be so blinded by class bias that it's almost absurd. Go watch some of Qaevir's Sorcerer videos where he hits people with 20k Frags and tell me that Sorcerer damage is inadequate in PvP. Sorcerers can build for full offense and still have terrific defense thanks to Shields scaling off of max Magicka. Literally no other class can do that. Is Templar is a great class? Yes. Does Templar have as much burst in PvP as a Sorcerer? LOL no.

This statement is what is wrong with these forums. You get a small handful of payers posting video of potato farming and everyone thinks a class is OP. I used to do it as well. QAM will gladly come on here and tell you he has weaknesses in his build. He is specifically built for high damage frags, use a reflect...slot harness, slot an absorb. Grab Miats Pvp cheat Addon like everyone else.

I have never been obliterated by a 22k frag that wasn't my fault. Potato farming happens because players who are unaware of their surroundings, who lemming themselves into situations that allow for us to make videos like that.

My point was clearly to demonstrate that Sorcerer is capable of top burst. If you disagree with that, please show me a 22k Flame Lash. All classes have limitations and all classes excel against bad players. But if you go back a couple of posts you'll see that I'm responding to Dracane's argument that Sorcerer's have poor damage in PvP. That is just blatantly wrong. I used QAM's build as an example of how extreme Sorc damage actually is.

Not every class should be brought on par with one another. This is an AvA game that encourages grouping not solo play. That's your problem. You all keep trying to balance around 1v1.

I actually agree with your comment, but given this, why are other classes taking many changes for just this reason - to some way bring them on par with one another?

I don't advocate for massive nerfs to Sorc, some adjustments to over strong skills/passives but no major changes.

However, I thought it interesting that you say this because the changes to Templar are supposedly to do this. So why should other classes not be brought on par with Sorc damage if Sorcs and others are (in theory anyway) being brought on par with templars for healing?

Drishtan

Ok since you really dont understand why lets list the passives.

1.) Capacitor- Increases the Vestige's Magicka regeneration by 5%.
2.) Expert Mage- Reduces the cost of Storm Calling spells by 5%.
3.) Unholy Knowledge- Reduces Magicka and Stamina costs by 3%.
4.) Rebate- Player receives 10% max Magicka when one their summoned creatures is killed.
5.) Reduces the cost of Ultimate skills by 8%.
6.) Daderic Protection- Increases the Vestige's Health regeneration rate by 10% with any Summoning skill slotted.
7.) Implosion- OP Plain and simple(Not a resource one but extermely OP)

So again Please list all the DK sustain Passive! They touch every other classes passives but leave all these sorc passives completely untouched???? WHY ZOS WHY????

Nelson_Rebel

Drishtan wrote: »

Ok since you really dont understand why lets list the passives.

1.) Capacitor- Increases the Vestige's Magicka regeneration by 5%.
2.) Expert Mage- Reduces the cost of Storm Calling spells by 5%.
3.) Unholy Knowledge- Reduces Magicka and Stamina costs by 3%.
4.) Rebate- Player receives 10% max Magicka when one their summoned creatures is killed.
5.) Reduces the cost of Ultimate skills by 8%.
6.) Daderic Protection- Increases the Vestige's Health regeneration rate by 10% with any Summoning skill slotted.
7.) Implosion- OP Plain and simple(Not a resource one but extermely OP)

So again Please list all the DK sustain Passive! They touch every other classes passives but leave all these sorc passives completely untouched???? WHY ZOS WHY????

Sorcs are incredibly overpowered

Trial guilds are exclusively Banning any deviation from using dps from anything other than Mag sorc now. Mag dk's are now only used as 1 MAYBE 2 for chains on vmol and the extra group damage buff with engulfing flames. Again only 1 is used.


Sorcs have irrefutably dominated the trials scenes now. Other classes stand no chance anymore.


Sad AF

Xvorg

Kilandros wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

I mean it the only time I can interrupt that skill is if im spamming bash as a magic toon. Well guess what I can only bash a few time then guess what i cant break free if i get cced.

FIX DARK DEAL NOW! Increase cast time to 2.2 sec minimum!!!

That's not "fixing" that's rendering a skill useless. The only way to prevent the "spam" of Dark Deal is making the resource return happen over several seconds after casting. So the heal happens instantly after the channel, but the resource is restored over 3 or 4 seconds (keeping the same resource return as its no longer spammable). Dark Deal should totally have a more obvious animation, but it still has counterplay unlike any other class specific resource return mechanic in the game (Battle Roar and Helping Hands don't have counters, neither does Repentance or Channeled Focus, neither do Siphoning Attacks, all of which have been unnecessarily nerfed).

Also the heal is already 8k.

Also stop writing in caps you look like a child. If you seriously think that without providing any arguments/evidence to support your claim and writing in cap is going to get you a dev response, you're very wrong.

Sometimes I'm wondering whether some people prioritize getting other classes nerfed or whether they prioritize reverting the nerfs to their own classes... Seems like the former.

Actually the heal is 10k.

And about CAPs ILL DO WHAT I WANT!

You wonder if we just want to nerf other class???? Are you kidding me? SORCs WHERE LEFT UNTOUCHED in 2 sets of patch notes when EVERY OTHER CLASS WAS CHANGED! HOW IS THAT BALANCED???

Gotta love that completely non-childish response given.

You should yell more, Drish. Oh, an tag a whole bunch more moderators, because that works everytime, too.

Check out these other helpful hints

What 12 pages worth of bs seem to miss thus far is that other class passives give other functionality - functionality Sorc passives don't generally get like bonuses to heals, damage, mitigation.

LA gets better regen/cost redux (which were both nerfed, btw) at the expense of mitigation.

And the heal from Dark Deal, either morph is 8059 otherwise known as 8k, just like @IzakiBrotherSs tried to tell you.

You don't think Sorc passives give functionality? Sorcs have the strongest passives in the game. Full stop. Implosion, Expert Mage, Blood Magic, POWER STONE, Energized, etc.

That is the single most OP list of passives in game. What drugs are you guys on??

You forgot the passive that gives an 8% bonus to max Magicka.

Oh wait sorry, that's a *nightblade* passive. To get 8% max Magicka bonus Sorcs have to double slot a toggle skill.

Sorc passives are better though! We get a 5% proc execute on people with no health left anyways!

This is why you guys are delusional. I give a list of incredibly powerful passives. You respond with one--ONE--Nightblade passive that is strong. Lol, just lol at Sorcs.

And that only works on mageblade, which, in turn, is the worst class in this game

RinaldoGandolphi

The constant whining about Sorcs is illogical. They are not the best pvp class. Two players of equal skill one Stamplar vs Sorc Stamplar wins 9 out of 10 times

Sorcs have the easiest single target predictable burst in the game to counter. Simply avoid or block the Frag and attack the Sorcs stamina pool instead of being a potatoe trying to bruteforce through shields

I have even run Engine Guardian and Amerplasm Sorcs out of Stam and killed them...good players, it can be done.

I'd rank Stamplar, Stam DK, Stam Sorc above Mag Sorc in solo and small group Pvp as someone with all 4 classes at Assault rank 10 BEFORE they lowered the requirements I got a very good idea.

My Mag DK can hit a heavy fire staff attack for 29-30k on players but Mag Sorc is OP?

Lol?

Anti_Virus

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

The constant whining about Sorcs is illogical. They are not the best pvp class. Two players of equal skill one Stamplar vs Sorc Stamplar wins 9 out of 10 times

Sorcs have the easiest single target predictable burst in the game to counter. Simply avoid or block the Frag and attack the Sorcs stamina pool instead of being a potatoe trying to bruteforce through shields

I have even run Engine Guardian and Amerplasm Sorcs out of Stam and killed them...good players, it can be done.

I'd rank Stamplar, Stam DK, Stam Sorc above Mag Sorc in solo and small group Pvp as someone with all 4 classes at Assault rank 10 BEFORE they lowered the requirements I got a very good idea.

My Mag DK can hit a heavy fire staff attack for 29-30k on players but Mag Sorc is OP?

Lol?

No class is the best PVP class its all subjective, but you have to agree that Sorcs are pretty powerful right now and with this upcoming sustain balance atm it seems like sorcs will slip through unscathed which is a problem.

Their damage is fine I don't mind that, the survivability is the problem and it needs to be adjusted, Sorcs if in Light Armor are suppose to be glass cannons not glass cannon tanks.

Pijng

Funny to see how sorcs trying to say something about nb's.
Just want to say — yes, magsorcs can easily be killed by nb from stealth(if you're a good nb ofc, not nice, not the best, just good, that's it). Curse isnt a problem tho, streak can be annoying sometimes but if you know how to use cloak/disguise PROPERLY - just pm to sorc to remove his streak after you kill him.
Stamsorcs are a way harder to kill but i'm not going to complain about it, it's ok (in some way...whatever)
And DKs, templars and magblades(yup) are more dangerous enemies for nb. That was a PvP.

What about pve...just really? "Go and try sorc on PTS rn blah-blah" NO man, just go and try a stamblade on PTS. Have you seen the vid by Gilliam the rogue huh? Rip. Magblades are the same, but no one run magnb(exaggeratedly, but you get it). Sipho attacks rip = nb rip. I'm just really happy i've made my nb to play a non-cp pvp forever a few months ago.

And yea, pls, stop talking about sustain nerf as cause of sorcs nerf. We all get the same thing AND the direct nerfs.

Xvorg

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

The constant whining about Sorcs is illogical. They are not the best pvp class. Two players of equal skill one Stamplar vs Sorc Stamplar wins 9 out of 10 times

Sorcs have the easiest single target predictable burst in the game to counter. Simply avoid or block the Frag and attack the Sorcs stamina pool instead of being a potatoe trying to bruteforce through shields

I have even run Engine Guardian and Amerplasm Sorcs out of Stam and killed them...good players, it can be done.

I'd rank Stamplar, Stam DK, Stam Sorc above Mag Sorc in solo and small group Pvp as someone with all 4 classes at Assault rank 10 BEFORE they lowered the requirements I got a very good idea.

My Mag DK can hit a heavy fire staff attack for 29-30k on players but Mag Sorc is OP?

Lol?

how mississipies are in one full flame staff HA? (since you started charging it and it "hits" the enemy?)

How mississipies are in a frag proc?

Which one travels faster?

You know, the sugestion to block or avoid the attack applies to the flame HA too because it is way moar predictable.

Finally, frag can be casted within the fight, at any moment without losing the fight's pace even at 5mts range, while full HA is just an opening move from range. You will never, ever see a mDK going for a full heavy against a stam class at 5 mts...

... and a full flame HA from a sorc can follow or be followed by a procced shard

Kilandros

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

The constant whining about Sorcs is illogical. They are not the best pvp class. Two players of equal skill one Stamplar vs Sorc Stamplar wins 9 out of 10 times

Sorcs have the easiest single target predictable burst in the game to counter. Simply avoid or block the Frag and attack the Sorcs stamina pool instead of being a potatoe trying to bruteforce through shields

I have even run Engine Guardian and Amerplasm Sorcs out of Stam and killed them...good players, it can be done.

I'd rank Stamplar, Stam DK, Stam Sorc above Mag Sorc in solo and small group Pvp as someone with all 4 classes at Assault rank 10 BEFORE they lowered the requirements I got a very good idea.

My Mag DK can hit a heavy fire staff attack for 29-30k on players but Mag Sorc is OP?

Lol?

Those mDK heavy attack builds straight up ERRYWHERE

Drishtan

Kilandros wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

The constant whining about Sorcs is illogical. They are not the best pvp class. Two players of equal skill one Stamplar vs Sorc Stamplar wins 9 out of 10 times

Sorcs have the easiest single target predictable burst in the game to counter. Simply avoid or block the Frag and attack the Sorcs stamina pool instead of being a potatoe trying to bruteforce through shields

I have even run Engine Guardian and Amerplasm Sorcs out of Stam and killed them...good players, it can be done.

I'd rank Stamplar, Stam DK, Stam Sorc above Mag Sorc in solo and small group Pvp as someone with all 4 classes at Assault rank 10 BEFORE they lowered the requirements I got a very good idea.

My Mag DK can hit a heavy fire staff attack for 29-30k on players but Mag Sorc is OP?

Lol?

Those mDK heavy attack builds straight up ERRYWHERE

LMFAO I think Ive seen all of 2 in my entire Cyro Career!

Drishtan

But again Not ONE sorc has gave a rational argument as to why they didnt get any changes in both pts patch notes.

Minalan

Drishtan wrote: »

But again Not ONE sorc has gave a rational argument as to why they didnt get any changes in both pts patch notes.

Wow, you're really frothing mad about this.

Have you considered asking for help? Stepping away from the computer?

It's not healthy.

Xvorg

Drishtan wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

The constant whining about Sorcs is illogical. They are not the best pvp class. Two players of equal skill one Stamplar vs Sorc Stamplar wins 9 out of 10 times

Sorcs have the easiest single target predictable burst in the game to counter. Simply avoid or block the Frag and attack the Sorcs stamina pool instead of being a potatoe trying to bruteforce through shields

I have even run Engine Guardian and Amerplasm Sorcs out of Stam and killed them...good players, it can be done.

I'd rank Stamplar, Stam DK, Stam Sorc above Mag Sorc in solo and small group Pvp as someone with all 4 classes at Assault rank 10 BEFORE they lowered the requirements I got a very good idea.

My Mag DK can hit a heavy fire staff attack for 29-30k on players but Mag Sorc is OP?

Lol?

Those mDK heavy attack builds straight up ERRYWHERE

LMFAO I think Ive seen all of 2 in my entire Cyro Career!

I tried one couple weeks ago... it sucked badly, but it is the only available build left for magDK next patch

Drishtan

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

But again Not ONE sorc has gave a rational argument as to why they didnt get any changes in both pts patch notes.

Wow, you're really frothing mad about this.

Have you considered asking for help? Stepping away from the computer?

It's not healthy.

Yes I am mad. How is this balacning the game when you make 100 million changes and not one of them is to the sorc.

This is ********* Crazy!

No if i step away from the computer all the sorcs will veto any change god forbid they make one.

Minalan

Drishtan wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

But again Not ONE sorc has gave a rational argument as to why they didnt get any changes in both pts patch notes.

Wow, you're really frothing mad about this.

Have you considered asking for help? Stepping away from the computer?

It's not healthy.

Yes I am mad. How is this balacning the game when you make 100 million changes and not one of them is to the sorc.

This is ********* Crazy!

No if i step away from the computer all the sorcs will veto any change god forbid they make one.

This can't be healthy or fun for you, and ZOS tends to ignore one angry person posting repeatedly in one thread (like the dark Brotherhood days, sorc nerf).

All this publish will do is force me to put my stam NB away (sadly) and play my sorc more. Or play other games when that's boring.

Drishtan

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

But again Not ONE sorc has gave a rational argument as to why they didnt get any changes in both pts patch notes.

Wow, you're really frothing mad about this.

Have you considered asking for help? Stepping away from the computer?

It's not healthy.

Yes I am mad. How is this balacning the game when you make 100 million changes and not one of them is to the sorc.

This is ********* Crazy!

No if i step away from the computer all the sorcs will veto any change god forbid they make one.

This can't be healthy or fun for you, and ZOS tends to ignore one angry person posting repeatedly in one thread (like the dark Brotherhood days, sorc nerf).

All this publish will do is force me to put my stam NB away (sadly) and play my sorc more. Or play other games when that's boring.

Oh yea and having everyones class except sorcs nerfed is really FUNNNN!!! LMFAO!

Lord_Hev

Drishtan wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

But again Not ONE sorc has gave a rational argument as to why they didnt get any changes in both pts patch notes.

Wow, you're really frothing mad about this.

Have you considered asking for help? Stepping away from the computer?

It's not healthy.

Yes I am mad. How is this balacning the game when you make 100 million changes and not one of them is to the sorc.

This is ********* Crazy!

No if i step away from the computer all the sorcs will veto any change god forbid they make one.

This can't be healthy or fun for you, and ZOS tends to ignore one angry person posting repeatedly in one thread (like the dark Brotherhood days, sorc nerf).

All this publish will do is force me to put my stam NB away (sadly) and play my sorc more. Or play other games when that's boring.

Oh yea and having everyones class except sorcs nerfed is really FUNNNN!!! LMFAO!

Sorc suffers the same blanket sustain nerfs everyone else does... I had to triple check the patch notes, the only class passives "nerfed" in regards to sustain are DKs. All other classes are untouched.

Drishtan

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

But again Not ONE sorc has gave a rational argument as to why they didnt get any changes in both pts patch notes.

Wow, you're really frothing mad about this.

Have you considered asking for help? Stepping away from the computer?

It's not healthy.

Yes I am mad. How is this balacning the game when you make 100 million changes and not one of them is to the sorc.

This is ********* Crazy!

No if i step away from the computer all the sorcs will veto any change god forbid they make one.

This can't be healthy or fun for you, and ZOS tends to ignore one angry person posting repeatedly in one thread (like the dark Brotherhood days, sorc nerf).

All this publish will do is force me to put my stam NB away (sadly) and play my sorc more. Or play other games when that's boring.

Oh yea and having everyones class except sorcs nerfed is really FUNNNN!!! LMFAO!

Sorc suffers the same blanket sustain nerfs everyone else does... I had to triple check the patch notes, the only class passives "nerfed" in regards to sustain are DKs. All other classes are untouched.

They got the same nerfs everyone else did, but they did not receive one additional one like every other class got.

Edziu

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

But again Not ONE sorc has gave a rational argument as to why they didnt get any changes in both pts patch notes.

Wow, you're really frothing mad about this.

Have you considered asking for help? Stepping away from the computer?

It's not healthy.

Yes I am mad. How is this balacning the game when you make 100 million changes and not one of them is to the sorc.

This is ********* Crazy!

No if i step away from the computer all the sorcs will veto any change god forbid they make one.

This can't be healthy or fun for you, and ZOS tends to ignore one angry person posting repeatedly in one thread (like the dark Brotherhood days, sorc nerf).

All this publish will do is force me to put my stam NB away (sadly) and play my sorc more. Or play other games when that's boring.

Oh yea and having everyones class except sorcs nerfed is really FUNNNN!!! LMFAO!

Sorc suffers the same blanket sustain nerfs everyone else does... I had to triple check the patch notes, the only class passives "nerfed" in regards to sustain are DKs. All other classes are untouched.

you also forgot to NB siphoning attacks nerfed into useless, not worth to spent skillpoint next skill and about templar repentance wchis now is restoring less amount of stamina per corpse

Drishtan

Not to mention how does the TOP Preforming PVE DPS and PVP DPS class remain unscathed when every other class had something major removed(temp-Major mending shards, NBs-Shipion, DK Any sustain they had)...

Its completely frustrating that sorcs are the favored child in the game. It really makes me think every dev is a sorc.

BohnT

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

But again Not ONE sorc has gave a rational argument as to why they didnt get any changes in both pts patch notes.

Wow, you're really frothing mad about this.

Have you considered asking for help? Stepping away from the computer?

It's not healthy.

Yes I am mad. How is this balacning the game when you make 100 million changes and not one of them is to the sorc.

This is ********* Crazy!

No if i step away from the computer all the sorcs will veto any change god forbid they make one.

This can't be healthy or fun for you, and ZOS tends to ignore one angry person posting repeatedly in one thread (like the dark Brotherhood days, sorc nerf).

All this publish will do is force me to put my stam NB away (sadly) and play my sorc more. Or play other games when that's boring.

Oh yea and having everyones class except sorcs nerfed is really FUNNNN!!! LMFAO!

Sorc suffers the same blanket sustain nerfs everyone else does... I had to triple check the patch notes, the only class passives "nerfed" in regards to sustain are DKs. All other classes are untouched.

No nbs and templars got nerfed too.
Nbs get resources with siphoning strikes which got nerfed into the ground it isn't worth slotting anymore

Templar get resources with repentance which got nerfed too and is now only usefull for the templar and not the resto of the group.
Saying that the other classes weren't nerfed is simply wrong except for sorc of course

Drishtan

BohnT wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

But again Not ONE sorc has gave a rational argument as to why they didnt get any changes in both pts patch notes.

Wow, you're really frothing mad about this.

Have you considered asking for help? Stepping away from the computer?

It's not healthy.

Yes I am mad. How is this balacning the game when you make 100 million changes and not one of them is to the sorc.

This is ********* Crazy!

No if i step away from the computer all the sorcs will veto any change god forbid they make one.

This can't be healthy or fun for you, and ZOS tends to ignore one angry person posting repeatedly in one thread (like the dark Brotherhood days, sorc nerf).

All this publish will do is force me to put my stam NB away (sadly) and play my sorc more. Or play other games when that's boring.

Oh yea and having everyones class except sorcs nerfed is really FUNNNN!!! LMFAO!

Sorc suffers the same blanket sustain nerfs everyone else does... I had to triple check the patch notes, the only class passives "nerfed" in regards to sustain are DKs. All other classes are untouched.

No nbs and templars got nerfed too.
Nbs get resources with siphoning strikes which got nerfed into the ground it isn't worth slotting anymore

Templar get resources with repentance which got nerfed too and is now only usefull for the templar and not the resto of the group.
Saying that the other classes weren't nerfed is simply wrong except for sorc of course

LOL totally forgot this but they are not passives but yes they are sustain issues.

Pijng

BohnT wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Drishtan wrote: »

But again Not ONE sorc has gave a rational argument as to why they didnt get any changes in both pts patch notes.

Wow, you're really frothing mad about this.

Have you considered asking for help? Stepping away from the computer?

It's not healthy.

Yes I am mad. How is this balacning the game when you make 100 million changes and not one of them is to the sorc.

This is ********* Crazy!

No if i step away from the computer all the sorcs will veto any change god forbid they make one.

This can't be healthy or fun for you, and ZOS tends to ignore one angry person posting repeatedly in one thread (like the dark Brotherhood days, sorc nerf).

All this publish will do is force me to put my stam NB away (sadly) and play my sorc more. Or play other games when that's boring.

Oh yea and having everyones class except sorcs nerfed is really FUNNNN!!! LMFAO!

Sorc suffers the same blanket sustain nerfs everyone else does... I had to triple check the patch notes, the only class passives "nerfed" in regards to sustain are DKs. All other classes are untouched.

No nbs and templars got nerfed too.
Nbs get resources with siphoning strikes which got nerfed into the ground it isn't worth slotting anymore

Templar get resources with repentance which got nerfed too and is now only usefull for the templar and not the resto of the group.
Saying that the other classes weren't nerfed is simply wrong except for sorc of course

Sustain of dks nerfed, nb nerfed(oh my sipho) and plars too. But they still will cry you about "cp nerf is the cause of sorcs nerf"...no words
Just do not pay attention to them, they are fools

CyrusArya

I wonder where all these social justice warriors were when streak and shield durations got gutted but other classes were untouched. Or last patch cycle when sorc was the only class that saw nerfs while everything else got tangible buffs. That was like the exact situation we face now in reverse. Where was the outcry then about how it's unfair that everyone else get class specific buffs besides sorcs?

These vindictive peasants have such short memory.

Banana

They need to be *** on just like the rest of us.