I want to kill spys from my own faction!

morchand23

If there gonna spy they should be flagged as traitors. It is war and this is going to happen but there needs to be some punishment for this!! Put a nice little purple star and a bounty on them and see how much fun they have then.I know this would be hard to do without being exploited but damn it would be fun to hunt and kill them.

Kartalin

As long as you keep in mind the difference between spies and multifaction players.

Taylor_MB

Tangril is a DC spy confirmed because he didn't help some pugs 4v1 White Mage (Mage won).

And apparently I'm a Daedra spy, not sure how that happened.

Aeko

Kartalin wrote: »

As long as you keep in mind the difference between spies and multifaction players.

There isn't any difference! There is the good and the evil! All spies must be hanged, a suitable crime for treason.
/s

zuto40

Aeko wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

As long as you keep in mind the difference between spies and multifaction players.

There isn't any difference! There is the good and the evil! All spies must be hanged, a suitable crime for treason.
/s

K

morchand23

morchand23 wrote: »

If there gonna spy they should be flagged as traitors. It is war and this is going to happen but there needs to be some punishment for this!! Put a nice little purple star and a bounty on them and see how much fun they have then.I know this would be hard to do without being exploited but damn it would be fun to hunt and kill them.

morchand23

Treason is exactly what it is and they need to die! When they respawn they need a title like flawless conqueror lol spying scumbag.

Serjustin19

I have been accused of spying so many times. Each time I proved them wrong. At times. When I am accused of being a spy. Others in Zone Chat. Stick up for me. The ones who do stick up for me. Say to the person whom accuses me. That I'm not a spy. So no matter what alliance I play on. I will always keep locations of tents, your alliance and other things safe.

Gilvoth

Kartalin wrote: »

As long as you keep in mind the difference between spies and multifaction players.

i disagree.
if you have ANY character in another alliance it needs to be exposed so we can all see it.
no matter the excuse nor the reasons you think it is legitimate.

KILLING4ALIVING

If you want to kill someone from your own faction, just challenge them to duel and kill them, if you can. If they are really a spy, just remember or write down their @ name, and kill them when they switch factions.

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

As long as you keep in mind the difference between spies and multifaction players.

i disagree.
if you have ANY character in another alliance it needs to be exposed so we can all see it.
no matter the excuse nor the reasons you think it is legitimate.

I am not sure about this. What if it is just a toon the made for PVE long before they ever started PVPing? Yes, believe it or not some people actually enjoy doing PVE and have made toons on each faction to do the storyline over again starting on each faction. I seem to recall when I started playing you had to complete the storyline on your faction before you could even get to the other factions part of the map, or maybe you just had to get to VR1. I don't remember that was too long ago, but it was soemthing like that. Also people use to make toons on different factions to duel their friends with, because that use to be the only way you could duel your friends, until recently when ZOS added dueling. I actually made a DC toon once to duel one of my friends with, I never actually leveled it any but I made one. Some people play multiple factions just to farm AP, or find good fights, some people do it because they get fed up with their faction just running to the bridge while we lose our home keeps so they just wanna go kill some of them. I've felt like doing that some myself but I only play EP, so that is when I go farm. Some people just don't care about factions, and I am sure some people do it to spy.

Honestly ZOS just need to make it so you can only play one faction per campaign. I.E, you could be EP on TF, DC on AS, and AD on Had. then if you wanna switch factions on one campaign you can when that campaign resets. At least that is my thoughts and feeling on it.

alterfenixeb17_ESO

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

As long as you keep in mind the difference between spies and multifaction players.

i disagree.
if you have ANY character in another alliance it needs to be exposed so we can all see it.
no matter the excuse nor the reasons you think it is legitimate.

On the other hand is someone would like to spy seriously they would rather buy a second account to do just that. Having characters in all 3 alliances at the same time is 100% legal

KILLING4ALIVING wrote: »

Honestly ZOS just need to make it so you can only play one faction per campaign. I.E, you could be EP on TF, DC on AS, and AD on Had. then if you wanna switch factions on one campaign you can when that campaign resets. At least that is my thoughts and feeling on it.

it used to be like that - you could join single campaign only with characters that belong to single alliance. In order to switch alliances player had to remove from campaign all previous characters. All company really had to do back then was auto character removal on campaign end or at least ability to remove character without having to choose new campaign.

HoloYoitsu

morchand23 wrote: »

Treason is exactly what it is and they need to die! When they respawn they need a title like flawless conqueror lol spying scumbag.

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

As long as you keep in mind the difference between spies and multifaction players.

i disagree.
if you have ANY character in another alliance it needs to be exposed so we can all see it.
no matter the excuse nor the reasons you think it is legitimate.

Sanct16

Yes please as long as spies can also attack their own faction. Cant wait to farm a 3 way fight.

Turelus

Or you know, just get better OpSec.

Hell I have lead TS raids with "spies" in the channel and managed to not give positioning away by simply not saying where I was and saying "just follow the crown, sneak or attack when I say".

Don't post all your plans in zone chat, mix up your strategies to not become predictable, do something very out of character (attack a keep well away from front lines for no reason) and mess with them.

If they're watching where the siege is before flags have one or two people run around placing 10 siege on a random keep and start attacking it. The spy sees all the siege and reports it, and the enemy raid turns up to kill one person.

Use them to your advantage.

NightbladeMechanics

I just want to kill my own faction..

Earendal

If I could kill my own faction I would, literally, never leave Chalman.

Edit:

Also, if you can't look at the map and tell where people are going to be, for the most part, you might be ***.

Lieblingsjunge

Do people *STILL* use spies? There's no point in spies, is it? Since you always know where the fights are going to be, on PC/EU anyway.
Alessia Bridge. Roebeck-Nikel, Chalman / Bleakers.

Same fights - same places, every day. Why would you need spies when you with 99% certainty can guess where the enemies attack next.

+ I like playing on multiple factions. That doesn't make me a traitor, it makes me a free, independent spirit! Who's not belonging to a specific faction, because all faction leaders are.. evil.

Rickter

I wish there was a way to "flag" them and an icon or special characters would appear by their name on both nameplates and whenever they spoke in text

RABIDxWOLVERINE

I demand traitor's BLOOD FOR THE PACT!!!

Reverb

You can kill them...if you have the skills, and they accept your dueling invite.

t3hdubzy

I love when your own factions runs over and spams light attacks at your for their buddines on another faction to come kill you in stealth.

Friendly fire please? Maybe with a bounty system? Id glaldy take a cyrodil bounty for being able to kill a teammate when needed.

olivesforge

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Do people *STILL* use spies? There's no point in spies, is it? Since you always know where the fights are going to be, on PC/EU anyway.
Alessia Bridge. Roebeck-Nikel, Chalman / Bleakers.

Same fights - same places, every day. Why would you need spies when you with 99% certainty can guess where the enemies attack next.

+ I like playing on multiple factions. That doesn't make me a traitor, it makes me a free, independent spirit! Who's not belonging to a specific faction, because all faction leaders are.. evil.

No, it makes you a free, independent traitor.

Multi faction play is a thing, and spying on objective-based raids is as well. Doesn't bother me as there's far bigger fish to fry. Mainly multi faction players who will zerg one side of the map for one team and then zerg the same side in the opposite direction for the other team.

Still, it's a low priority in the bucket of concerns for the game, and would go away if there were more interesting pvp options/plays than the same ones we've had for nearly 3 years now.

NBrookus

We need spies. Because my game didn't come with a map where I can see where the fighting is or draw the obvious conclusions about which of the tiny handful of objectives is going to get hit next.

Jimboo84

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

As long as you keep in mind the difference between spies and multifaction players.

i disagree.
if you have ANY character in another alliance it needs to be exposed so we can all see it.
no matter the excuse nor the reasons you think it is legitimate.

The game allows it to join another alliance, even beside of your starting alliance which you've choosen. I don't see this as "treason" or "spying".
If they want to prevent spying they should adjust the switch play-time between alliance usage.

geonsocal

t3hdubzy wrote: »

I love when your own factions runs over and spams light attacks at your for their buddines on another faction to come kill you in stealth.

Friendly fire please? Maybe with a bounty system? Id glaldy take a cyrodil bounty for being able to kill a teammate when needed.

howdy @t3hdubzy ...what's up hubz

man, I remember back in the old arena district that happened to me - I don't think anything in the game had or has pissed me off worse...respawned and spent the next 15 minutes uselessly bashing and swinging at the two "allies" who did it...

happened a couple of times since around the bridge mistaking a duel for a fight...

Soul_Demon

Rickter wrote: »

I wish there was a way to "flag" them and an icon or special characters would appear by their name on both nameplates and whenever they spoke in text

Great idea.....personally I feel like 90% of the unsavory activity in zone chat can be attributed to the players who are either multi faction or spies. Simply place an alliance icon next to their names in zone chat for what faction chars they have homed on the server. Could assist the faction loyalist in 'picking through' the multi faction "just playing with buddies" and boosting spy hard idiots who turn zone toxic.

Winnamine

Soul_Demon wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

I wish there was a way to "flag" them and an icon or special characters would appear by their name on both nameplates and whenever they spoke in text

Great idea.....personally I feel like 90% of the unsavory activity in zone chat can be attributed to the players who are either multi faction or spies. Simply place an alliance icon next to their names in zone chat for what faction chars they have homed on the server. Could assist the faction loyalist in 'picking through' the multi faction "just playing with buddies" and boosting spy hard idiots who turn zone toxic.

Haha oh dear, I disagree completely. At least on PC/NA, those "faction loyalists" of yours tend to be the loudest, angriest, most intolerant blowhards that zone chat ever sees.
Probably because the kind of people who take a game so seriously that they have a problem with other players playing other sides don't tend to have a lot of perspective/a sense of humor.
****Exception for real RPers, you got your immersion, I get it, that's how you enjoy the game****

dotme

t3hdubzy wrote: »

I love when your own factions runs over and spams light attacks at your for their buddines on another faction to come kill you in stealth.

Friendly fire please? Maybe with a bounty system? Id glaldy take a cyrodil bounty for being able to kill a teammate when needed.

Would have been useful earlier this week when an AD logged into his EP character, picked up an AD scroll from Farragut and ran it all the way South to the AD temple. Nothing we could do about it.

Soul_Demon

Winnamine wrote: »

Soul_Demon wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

I wish there was a way to "flag" them and an icon or special characters would appear by their name on both nameplates and whenever they spoke in text

Great idea.....personally I feel like 90% of the unsavory activity in zone chat can be attributed to the players who are either multi faction or spies. Simply place an alliance icon next to their names in zone chat for what faction chars they have homed on the server. Could assist the faction loyalist in 'picking through' the multi faction "just playing with buddies" and boosting spy hard idiots who turn zone toxic.

Haha oh dear, I disagree completely. At least on PC/NA, those "faction loyalists" of yours tend to be the loudest, angriest, most intolerant blowhards that zone chat ever sees.
Probably because the kind of people who take a game so seriously that they have a problem with other players playing other sides don't tend to have a lot of perspective/a sense of humor.
****Exception for real RPers, you got your immersion, I get it, that's how you enjoy the game****

I see.....so if I read this correctly what you suggest is that by having the ability to change to a different character at any moment from any faction on the same server, this creates a friendly environment where people are less apt to worry about turning any particular area toxic. I mean just because you have only one faction doesn't mean it makes sense that you would not create a negative environment there because you would then be stuck in it......that is crazy talk.

Yeah, makes perfect sense now that you have laid it out for me....sounds legit to me.

Cathexis

Spy/Outlaw/Bandit/Renegade/Mercinary statuses for cyrodiil would be awesome...

If implemented carefully

NBrookus

Gotta agree with @Winnamine. When you cross-faction, those people you love to hate become your allies and they start to be real people.... sometimes people you end up playing with later on. Or at least showing some respect to when you are on opposite sides of a conflict. The worst zone chat blowhards don't recognize anyone's humanity, not even their own faction.