Azura's Star NA PC Thread PART 3

Joshlenoir

PenguinInACan wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

PenguinInACan wrote: »

Taylor_MB wrote: »

PenguinInACan wrote: »

You don't know us any better than you know the difference between two of our guildies with names that start with A.

I got this:
1) Aily
2) Ailytoo?

Pretty close. But when you (not you Tay) accuse someone of exploiting and then turns out you have the wrong person all together, it paints a picture.

Also I think Ailytoo was discovered already, but it was spelled a little differently and Aily didn't approve.

Airyus and Aily are pretty easy to mix up, and I already denounced it ages ago, like literally a couple minutes after I brought it up, nice try though.

But thats the thing. You accused someone in TM of something they didn't do and admitted to it. And now you are accusing all of TM of doing something. How do we know you just dont like TM and enjoy saying that we do all of these things that we may or may not do, and then when you get proven wrong you "denounce it" and find something else to pick at our guild.

It's also kind of hard to tell the difference between good players and those that accuse people of things they haven't done and then run with people who have been banned from the game for reasons I don't know, but it paints a picture. Usually free AP for our stacked pug raid.

I run with dubzug because he is a good player, running with Good players let's me learn things about the game and get better, you should try it.

And I didn't make up anything, I thought airyus was Aily, I saw a video of people ap exploiting and I called out the person (who I thought was Airyus) for it, why's that so hard to understand? It was an honest mistake and I corrected myself immediately. If there is any "accusation" I have for Aily it would be her pvdooring with lady Deathstroke when everyone else logged off so she can "get her stars", but that's a different topic. Anyways I can't post the video here because of name and shaming policy but I can privately show anyone that asks.

Joshlenoir

PenguinInACan wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

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Joshlenoir wrote: »

PenguinInACan wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

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Vurian97 wrote: »

I do enjoy fighting Tertiary Meat from time to time

Fighting TM is literally getting Xv1ed by their "small man" groups (10+ man groups 1/2 sorcs 1/2 templars) and they all drop Destro ults and negates (don't forget the encase spam) on 2-3 people then get egos over it
90% of that guild is full of trash pugs that build themselves around hitting 1 ULT, 1 heal, or 1 root.

Also WTB 1 duel from Cypriots but he/she always avoids and dodges after proudly claiming to have beaten me some X months ago

Please enlighten us on what constitutes non-trash play? I'm betting on it involving no destro ults, no templars, probably need to be stam and maybe run a proc set or two, oh and don't play in group's larger than 3 people.

But it looks like you just want to talk trash for the sake of talking trash.

Sorry josh..

1. Anyone that knows me knows I don't run proc sets or promote it
2. I never said there is anything wrong with running larger than normal groups
3. I never said there is anything wrong with not playing stamina (I play a magplar as well don't worry I'll teach you)

My argument comes from the fact that you guys like to pass yourselves off as a small man group that doesn't zerg and is somehow the saving Grace of AD.
Had it not been for that I don't care, I don't trash talk people doing their own thing, if you wanna zerg go ahead, just stop making yourselves look any different from LoM, LODG, or DR.

What you said was TM was trash and pugs by criticizing our group size and playstyles/group composition of healing templars and mag sorcs. That is some pretty heavy trash talking without actually knowing how we play/why we play the way we do. I don't remember us ever claiming to be anything other than casual/non-competitive and running a wide range of group numbers. I've said that many times before.

As for your points, this is the type of miscommunication that you put in your post about TM. I don't know your builds, your opinions or your playstyles. So please don't put "90% of TM is this and does this" "facts" or "TM literally only does this" anecdotes when you don't really know anything about "90% of TM". That was the point I was trying to make with my non trash play bit. I've seen you a handful of times and of those times its been you rolling around as a stam nightblade which historically only attracts proc sets and players that want easy ganks and no real counterplay. Whenver I see you on your AD its showing up at the end of a defense to get ticks or after a keep flips for the same reason. I don't know that you weren't there defending or attacking, so I could say you do nothing but leech AP from defenses and attacks without actually doing anything, so how could you teach me how to magplar?

So from what I've seen/said there we can say that 90% of Joshlenoirs are trash pugs that build themselves around hitting 1 ult, 1 fear, or many dodges. Fighting Joshlenoirs is literally getting Xvwhoever-josh-is-hiding-with by their "1vX" groups (3 man groups, (1/2 stam, 1/2 stam) and they all drop dawnbreakers and uppercuts (don't forget the roll spam) on 1-X people (which is impressive at times) and then get egos over it.

None of that is probably true. None of that is built from actual facts of me playing with you or knowing your gear sets/playstyles. Which is why I always get defensive when people bring up the "TM thinks they are so good" arguments because we never said anything about how good we are. Our "reputation" is solely built on people like you talking about us, and trust me, we really don't care either way.

Anyone that has seen me play stamblade knows I don't leech ticks, I rarely even join keep fights to begin with cause I hate sieging, and I'm almost always alone on my nightblade (God forbid I run a group of 3 other people).
Secondly each class has their own defences, it's always funny getting crap from people for dodge rolling as if I'm going to stand there and block the entire time in medium/heavy armor and no 1h and shield? Lmao
Thirdly saying "TM thinks they're good" doesn't come out of nowhere, I see the way your members talk, I see your members tbag people, and then (and I'm not defending him) talk crap about people like Vurian and other types of guilds as if they themselves are any better skill wise. YOU may not fall under that category but a lot of others do. If you don't care what I'm saying don't address it, everybody knows TM is literally Destro ULT spam, negate spam, encase spam and then BoL spam with templars and sorcs this isn't news, you have the most grand overlords / generals on Azuras star in one guild yet they have all gotten 1vXed on many occasions or at least obliterated when the numbers are even. That isn't talking trash that is a fact. Also I'm only saying this to counteract the false pretense that TM is some sort of small scale guild that doesn't fall under the zerging whatsoever.

And hey if you think my playstyle is that easy and youvr figured it all out and it's just 1 ULT 1 fear etc then please I highly encourage you and everyone else in TM to duel me since Micah and Cypriots are clearly too scared to

InB4 "wow your epeen is so big"

Seeing you play is exactly what I'm trying to say you haven't done for TM. You can't just come out and say "TM is this and TM does that" when anyone that has seen us play knows we don't do those things. Same premise. God forbid we run a group with our guild members.

And I personally don't like duels. They prove nothing other than one person was clearly specced to kill one person and one person only. If you want to "compare" come show me how to heal 12 people who all are mag and have crap mobility while fighting 60 people through siege and not running away.

If that's your sorry excuse for avoiding duels it's safe to say everything I think about to is true

I just don't like duels. You don't like large group play. I don't gain anything from winning a duel, just like we don't really gain anything from winning fights in Cyro. Not my playstyle. Never said it was my playstyle. I don't judge people that prefer that playstyle. I don't call people trash for preferring that playstyle.

Good, now you and your guild can learn their place.

PenguinInACan

Joshlenoir wrote: »

PenguinInACan wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

PenguinInACan wrote: »

Taylor_MB wrote: »

PenguinInACan wrote: »

You don't know us any better than you know the difference between two of our guildies with names that start with A.

I got this:
1) Aily
2) Ailytoo?

Pretty close. But when you (not you Tay) accuse someone of exploiting and then turns out you have the wrong person all together, it paints a picture.

Also I think Ailytoo was discovered already, but it was spelled a little differently and Aily didn't approve.

Airyus and Aily are pretty easy to mix up, and I already denounced it ages ago, like literally a couple minutes after I brought it up, nice try though.

But thats the thing. You accused someone in TM of something they didn't do and admitted to it. And now you are accusing all of TM of doing something. How do we know you just dont like TM and enjoy saying that we do all of these things that we may or may not do, and then when you get proven wrong you "denounce it" and find something else to pick at our guild.

It's also kind of hard to tell the difference between good players and those that accuse people of things they haven't done and then run with people who have been banned from the game for reasons I don't know, but it paints a picture. Usually free AP for our stacked pug raid.

I run with dubzug because he is a good player, running with Good players let's me learn things about the game and get better, you should try it.

And I didn't make up anything, I thought airyus was Aily, I saw a video of people ap exploiting and I called out the person (who I thought was Airyus) for it, why's that so hard to understand? It was an honest mistake and I corrected myself immediately. If there is any "accusation" I have for Aily it would be her pvdooring with lady Deathstroke when everyone else logged off so she can "get her stars", but that's a different topic. Anyways I can't post the video here because of name and shaming policy but I can privately show anyone that asks.

Seeing as we are getting past grey into red with forum policies here (both of us) let's just agree to disagree and move on. Never had a problem with you, I just like forum banter. If you really want to duel let me know in game. You'll probably win, unless i completely respec and find my old solo-ing gear, but I have nothing to prove here. Just defending the guild I've been in since the game released.

Grunim

I have fun playing with my Tertiary Meat guildies and many of them don't read forums or if they do, hardly at all. I really don't care how skilled people may or may not regard us. I've never claimed to have skill whatsoever nor do I think skill is an important thing in a silly computer game. Please stop with the naming and shaming. Thank you.

p.s. - I never teabag nor do I send folks hate tells.

Joshlenoir

Grunim wrote: »

I have fun playing with my Tertiary Meat guildies and many of them don't read forums or if they do, hardly at all. I really don't care how skilled people may or may not regard us. I've never claimed to have skill whatsoever nor do I think skill is an important thing in a silly computer game. Please stop with the naming and shaming. Thank you.

p.s. - I never teabag nor do I send folks hate tells.

cool.

Sixth

If there's one thing us zerging guilds can say, is that our discords are very fun with 20 of us in them

Taylor_MB

BRK looks hectic this time of year, how's everyone going over there? Still got double digits fps?

Scamh

Kartalin wrote: »

Josh, is group PVP such a foreign concept to you? Outside of stealth nightblade groups?

what's a "stealth nb" group, and how is a group with NBs different from any other group

fyi I occasionally duo / small group with him and he hasn't had cloak slotted for a while in those

Kartalin

Scamh wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Josh, is group PVP such a foreign concept to you? Outside of stealth nightblade groups?

what's a "stealth nb" group, and how is a group with NBs different from any other group

fyi I occasionally duo / small group with him and he hasn't had cloak slotted for a while in those

Referring to the time when I was on my DC Templar and grouped with @jameslogan and a few others and he pulled every proc blade together in one group and was fighting us.

Scamh

i'd just read that as a troll move and not draw any further conclusions

Alishka_Gunter

Zander98 wrote: »

No proc set is more broken than Troll King.
I've got good friends that use it. But it's a much more balanced fight fighting a NBA with viper or 'dreth, than one with troll king.

Malibulove

Lock it down, we're done here.



Not bad for an hour's work. The 1 bar EP don't play with Emp push nonsense, especially those cats down at Nikel.

Sixth

Very disorganized D.C. this morning

Alishka_Gunter

I had fun for the 15-20 mins I was online before my daughter woke up. The DC push on BRK was certainly disorganized but you guys made up for it in determination. Everytime you got beat on the inner, you'd come back and push again with what felt like the same or more numbers. Normally groups dissolve when the emp cap gets stopped but you guys kept trying. Kudos for the effort.

54 kills, 0 deaths and 58,000 AP in 15-20 mins. Solid start to the day!

Joshlenoir

I'm getting the feeling mods don't like Mac book pros.

[edited to remove quote]

Joshlenoir

Alishka_Gunter wrote: »

Zander98 wrote: »

No proc set is more broken than Troll King.
I've got good friends that use it. But it's a much more balanced fight fighting a NBA with viper or 'dreth, than one with troll king.

I'll duel anyone without troll kings, but don't bash on a solo player using troll kings getting Xv1'ed by Azuras' notorious zergs

Joshlenoir

Kartalin wrote: »

Scamh wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Josh, is group PVP such a foreign concept to you? Outside of stealth nightblade groups?

what's a "stealth nb" group, and how is a group with NBs different from any other group

fyi I occasionally duo / small group with him and he hasn't had cloak slotted for a while in those

Referring to the time when I was on my DC Templar and grouped with @jameslogan and a few others and he pulled every proc blade together in one group and was fighting us.

Yeah my bad bro, you're just such a good player lol you think I'd 1v1? Hell naw man. Even though you never a duel I know I'd lose. Especially you WITH @jameslogan ? That's overkill bro, she's best NB on Azuras. Of course i'd need a zerg to fight 2 God's, you guys are known for 2vXing. Mad respect to both of you guys keep killing it out there.

Sixth

Alishka_Gunter wrote: »

I had fun for the 15-20 mins I was online before my daughter woke up. The DC push on BRK was certainly disorganized but you guys made up for it in determination. Everytime you got beat on the inner, you'd come back and push again with what felt like the same or more numbers. Normally groups dissolve when the emp cap gets stopped but you guys kept trying. Kudos for the effort.

54 kills, 0 deaths and 58,000 AP in 15-20 mins. Solid start to the day!

It was the same problem we had before, no voice chat to tell everyone how to push in. We got the inner open and everyone just kinda stood around. No voice chat to say "Get the *** in and push to the right"

Vurian97

Organizing a public dueling tournament but trying to figure out what day of the week it should be... Friday... Saturday.. or Sunday..

Alishka_Gunter

Joshlenoir wrote: »

Alishka_Gunter wrote: »

Zander98 wrote: »

No proc set is more broken than Troll King.
I've got good friends that use it. But it's a much more balanced fight fighting a NBA with viper or 'dreth, than one with troll king.

I'll duel anyone without troll kings, but don't bash on a solo player using troll kings getting Xv1'ed by Azuras' notorious zergs

I wasn't bashing you Josh, I was agreeing with Zane's opinion.

You can't complain about being Xv1'ed by notorious Azuras' zergs if your play style and attitude in essence attract a zerg to kill you. Personally, I've walked by quite a few 1v1's without jumping in because they were having a good fight.

Alishka_Gunter

Sixth wrote: »

Alishka_Gunter wrote: »

I had fun for the 15-20 mins I was online before my daughter woke up. The DC push on BRK was certainly disorganized but you guys made up for it in determination. Everytime you got beat on the inner, you'd come back and push again with what felt like the same or more numbers. Normally groups dissolve when the emp cap gets stopped but you guys kept trying. Kudos for the effort.

54 kills, 0 deaths and 58,000 AP in 15-20 mins. Solid start to the day!

It was the same problem we had before, no voice chat to tell everyone how to push in. We got the inner open and everyone just kinda stood around. No voice chat to say "Get the *** in and push to the right"

Fair enough. Yesterday morning, I seen the exact same behavior from EP and know the frustrations

Joshlenoir

Vurian97 wrote: »

Organizing a public dueling tournament but trying to figure out what day of the week it should be... Friday... Saturday.. or Sunday..

Speak of the devil....

Vurian97

Should I mention that LoDG has rewards planned for it?

Sixth

Im prepping my nightblade for it now!

Kartalin

I understand some of you LODG guys got some "practice" against Sierena yesterday...

Vurian97

Kartalin wrote: »

I understand some of you LODG guys got some "practice" against Sierena yesterday...

I wouldn't really call it practice. Was more like beating our head's against a wall. First Dragonknight I've fought in a 1v1 on my Stamplar build and I died within 4 seconds of engaging... all 4 times we dueled..

Kartalin

Dueling is a decent way for your players to get experience fighting different classes and to have an idea what to expect. It doesn't necessarily prep you for fighting groups like ours in open world PVP but it can be useful.

Against groups it's a matter of preparation and teamwork. Helping each other get good builds together and learning how to use them ahead of time, having good team composition, and being able to coordinate movement and attacks and responding quickly to sudden combat situations through voice comms or simply experience fighting together is crucial.

Team composition means not everyone in your group is dps. You have to have people willing to play support roles and play them well. DKs and sorcs to lock people down, DKs and magplars to keep dots on opponents to sustain pressure, burst damage from sorcs and nightblades and stam builds, and a complement of healers of course. Typically you'll have everyone in your group filling multiple roles. People may call it cheesy or whatever, and we aren't all great 1v1 players, but as a group we can wreck some face.

Sixth

Kartalin wrote: »

Dueling is a decent way for your players to get experience fighting different classes and to have an idea what to expect. It doesn't necessarily prep you for fighting groups like ours in open world PVP but it can be useful.

Against groups it's a matter of preparation and teamwork. Helping each other get good builds together and learning how to use them ahead of time, having good team composition, and being able to coordinate movement and attacks and responding quickly to sudden combat situations through voice comms or simply experience fighting together is crucial.

Team composition means not everyone in your group is dps. You have to have people willing to play support roles and play them well. DKs and sorcs to lock people down, DKs and magplars to keep dots on opponents to sustain pressure, burst damage from sorcs and nightblades and stam builds, and a complement of healers of course. Typically you'll have everyone in your group filling multiple roles. People may call it cheesy or whatever, and we aren't all great 1v1 players, but as a group we can wreck some face.

May the best processor win when it comes to zerging. My little i3 can barely handle it

Zander98

Joshlenoir wrote: »

Alishka_Gunter wrote: »

Zander98 wrote: »

No proc set is more broken than Troll King.
I've got good friends that use it. But it's a much more balanced fight fighting a NBA with viper or 'dreth, than one with troll king.

I'll duel anyone without troll kings, but don't bash on a solo player using troll kings getting Xv1'ed by Azuras' notorious zergs

Hehe. You know well that 2 of my better friends wear troll king constantly. I'm not judging you. You're a great player. And if I had the pirate skelly, you better believe that I'd rock it.
Just arguing that it's superior to most of the proc sets people complain about. It's just harder to notice when someone ends up killing you because of surviving damage via health regen than it is to notice three green balls.

Kartalin

Sixth wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Dueling is a decent way for your players to get experience fighting different classes and to have an idea what to expect. It doesn't necessarily prep you for fighting groups like ours in open world PVP but it can be useful.

Against groups it's a matter of preparation and teamwork. Helping each other get good builds together and learning how to use them ahead of time, having good team composition, and being able to coordinate movement and attacks and responding quickly to sudden combat situations through voice comms or simply experience fighting together is crucial.

Team composition means not everyone in your group is dps. You have to have people willing to play support roles and play them well. DKs and sorcs to lock people down, DKs and magplars to keep dots on opponents to sustain pressure, burst damage from sorcs and nightblades and stam builds, and a complement of healers of course. Typically you'll have everyone in your group filling multiple roles. People may call it cheesy or whatever, and we aren't all great 1v1 players, but as a group we can wreck some face.

May the best processor win when it comes to zerging. My little i3 can barely handle it

In a 10 person group we might have 2 DKs, 3 sorcs, 3 templars, and 2 nightblades. You don't need a huge group to be successful, but it does take time and effort to reach that point.