Congratulations to all the new Grand Overlords

FMonk

frozywozy wrote: »

Talcyndl wrote: »

One week of double AP = 2 weeks of base AP. Maybe three weeks when figuring in the anticipated higher population and overall focus on AP.

I don't think this will really make much difference in the long run.

I think you forgot the part where there is no CP, and most people didn't adjust their gear and have no idea how to deal with it. Also, read my first post again. My group is getting 300k ap / hour. Some of us got over a million AP already since maintenance. Do the maths.

Also, I never said that people would get 64millions APs in the double AP week. I said that alot of people will be getting their GO rank without any hardwork (they were already high ranks).

Well yeah, running around in a 20 man group steamrolling unorganized pugs during the middle of the day when there's no organized opposition is going to get you a lot of AP.

DHale

I don't mind the ap. Grand overlord and EMP for that matter is about who plays a lot... not who is good. When one of your mates became EMP who is also a Grand overlord I took all 12 of my toons out to cyrodil including a level 14 knowing I would get a double achievement on every one of them.... and I did. Many of the Grand overlord s largest gains were from early wabbajack and other closed campaigns that would fight then everyone would run off and let one person get the tick. Nothing wrong with it then and now.... meh.

poietin

I thought we played in Cyrodiil because we enjoy killing other players not because we enjoy getting certain titles. Alliance rank doesn't reflect skill and even before the increase of AP gains, you can just repair walls, spam heal and farm inexperienced players to get AP. A high alliance rank could just mean you have way more time to play and are really dedicated to wall repair. Who cares that all these people are gonna get GO in a short period of time? It would just make killing bad GO more sweet. Unless there is a dueling arena, your PVP title really doesn't mean anything.
Personally, I love the increase AP gain because I get to sell more Akaviri motifs to help fund my dream of owning the Ebonhear Chateau.

frozywozy

poietin wrote: »

I thought we played in Cyrodiil because we enjoy killing other players not because we enjoy getting certain titles. Alliance rank doesn't reflect skill and even before the increase of AP gains, you can just repair walls, spam heal and farm inexperienced players to get AP. A high alliance rank could just mean you have way more time to play and are really dedicated to wall repair. Who cares that all these people are gonna get GO in a short period of time? It would just make killing bad GO more sweet. Unless there is a dueling arena, your PVP title really doesn't mean anything.
Personally, I love the increase AP gain because I get to sell more Akaviri motifs to help fund my dream of owning the Ebonhear Chateau.

It doesn't mean that I enjoy killing players that I don't also come in Cyrodiil to achieve the highest possible rank in the game. Your argument is biased. I also never said that getting the highest rank reflect skills. It only means that you have either played the game alot, been around for a long time, been killing alot of people or in most scenarios, a mix of all these factors. It is an honorific title for people who have been playing this game for a long time.

Now the title is getting ruined because of all the ridiculous AP buffs we're getting again and again. I know that you and alot of people who are centurion rank don't care if people get GO earlier than expected, but for us players who dedicated alot of time to get it the hard way, it is game breaking.

incite

Plz let them get Grand Overlord this way, ill relog to my Tyro alt and *** on their faces, gg

Imo, people tend to forget with certain ranks come certain expectations, if you get rekted by someone whos 13 ranks below you, the joke is on you zergbois...

Shame

poietin

You should probably petition ZOS to come up with another title for players that got GO earlier. It should be called the Original Gangster.

Glory

FMonk wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Talcyndl wrote: »

One week of double AP = 2 weeks of base AP. Maybe three weeks when figuring in the anticipated higher population and overall focus on AP.

I don't think this will really make much difference in the long run.

I think you forgot the part where there is no CP, and most people didn't adjust their gear and have no idea how to deal with it. Also, read my first post again. My group is getting 300k ap / hour. Some of us got over a million AP already since maintenance. Do the maths.

Also, I never said that people would get 64millions APs in the double AP week. I said that alot of people will be getting their GO rank without any hardwork (they were already high ranks).

Well yeah, running around in a 20 man group steamrolling unorganized pugs during the middle of the day when there's no organized opposition is going to get you a lot of AP.

Gotta get emp for prime time somehow, or the steamroll will slow down!

xeNNNNN

makeumrage wrote: »

Stop complaining guys. Its no worse then the healing grand overlords of the past when you use to get mega ticks just for hitting healing springs in a zerg. Its not like GO means anything just the same as Former Emp does. A title just determines timed played not skill.

too much common sense in a single post, i cant take it.

thankyourat

Lol grand overlord is basically Templar zergers, bomb blades or dedicated AP farmers. It really has never determined skill.

NightbladeMechanics

The only end game PvP content in this game are the fights themselves, and improving your mechanics and skill with which you fight them. Alliance ranks merely require time to obtain. If you're caught up on rank, you're avoiding the true challenge of PvP, just saying.

That said, it is frustrating when the time and commitment required to acquire achievements is reduced for newer players after you've worked to get them. How would you like it if the Maw skin and hard mode title were made available for completing nMoL, or Master Angler just required fishing one zone?

I understand why the OP is frustrated. I am close to getting my first star, and I've played solo or in very small groups which I've led personally since IC patch. I don't farm AP or engage in fights where aoe damage is the answer, nor do I pay much attention to my rank, but it still feels satisfying to see it rising up there.

That said, rank means very little when there are people out there like...well...we all know them...who did nothing but run between Bleaker's and Chalman at prime time to reach GO.

Takllin

I'm getting GO today and rank 50 later in the week. I don't think I'm diminishing anyone's GO achievement by getting it this week rather than next week. All it is is a time investment. The only thing diminishing it are people trading objectives for 500k an hour. Those people should be fairly obvious to the majority of the pvp community to spot as you know most of the high rank players already. Honestly ZOS needs to do something about it.

In any case I agree that doubling AP while objectives give such a large amount already was really stupid.

Kartalin

Should we reclassify this as exp farming so it gets nerfed sooner? Is this a viable way to level up as well?

efster

I am looking forward to an easy Kill a Grand Overlord achievement.

I am still going out to defend keeps and resources without waiting for them to flip, double ap or triple AP, and if there is a group bombing AFK flagflippers and repping walls, I will join it. I don't think any amount of outrage or anger, justified or not, is going to change the current situation, so the only thing anyone can do is play how we think the game ought to be played, and don't worry about other people's choices. They are the ones who have to live with them.

If someone is so lacking in self-awareness that they still feel proud of themselves after earning a cool rank the easy way (by exploiting, boosting, or afk outpost flipping), they aren't going to be moved by an appeal to their sense of honour or fair play.

Xsorus

Rofl, this is a joke right?

Grand Overload was basically like Realm Rank 10 or 11 in DAOC...Its not really about Skill more about Time.

There were zergs of Realm Rank 11 players in DAOC...ZERGS....we're talking 60+ people...and they were mostly *** half the time.

This game is no different..Grand Overload players aren't any better then any other player i've seen...Most are pretty downright awful in all honesty and got their Rank via being carried by 23 other people at this point.

So if you're wanting a metric of skill...GO is not the way to determine it...

IxSTALKERxI

Everyone lag out the servers in protest!!!

Esgameplaya1

I find it funny that you are concerned about this issue. What a joke that achievement is!! Oh and congratulations to all the new grand overlords!!

loki547

frozywozy wrote: »

poietin wrote: »

I thought we played in Cyrodiil because we enjoy killing other players not because we enjoy getting certain titles. Alliance rank doesn't reflect skill and even before the increase of AP gains, you can just repair walls, spam heal and farm inexperienced players to get AP. A high alliance rank could just mean you have way more time to play and are really dedicated to wall repair. Who cares that all these people are gonna get GO in a short period of time? It would just make killing bad GO more sweet. Unless there is a dueling arena, your PVP title really doesn't mean anything.
Personally, I love the increase AP gain because I get to sell more Akaviri motifs to help fund my dream of owning the Ebonhear Chateau.

It doesn't mean that I enjoy killing players that I don't also come in Cyrodiil to achieve the highest possible rank in the game. Your argument is biased. I also never said that getting the highest rank reflect skills. It only means that you have either played the game alot, been around for a long time, been killing alot of people or in most scenarios, a mix of all these factors. It is an honorific title for people who have been playing this game for a long time.

Now the title is getting ruined because of all the ridiculous AP buffs we're getting again and again. I know that you and alot of people who are centurion rank don't care if people get GO earlier than expected, but for us players who dedicated alot of time to get it the hard way, it is game breaking.

Hi.

Darth_Apache

I've gotta get in on this double ap. 155cp Stamblade and still no vigor! I'm a mess in PvE with no self heals besides mark target...

Lord_Hev

Grand Overlord is "endgame pvp" ? Wat



Wait.... there's an endgame PvP?? lol

MLRPZ

Yo, it fixed the lag, no more bridgefight, everything is happening at Seja/nikel/bleakers now

At least I got GO way before that BS

Sigma957

Be nice to actually get into pvp and get AP,, in queue at 169 for EP lol
edit- Every campaign is pop locked

Kalante

Not unless they are overlord already they wonr't. Nice exaggeration.

ssewallb14_ESO

Getting GO before this involved some combination of the following things:

-Kill a delve boss every hour
-Bridge
-Attack the tower door
-Wait for the tick
-Repair Walls
-Rapid Regen
-Play 24/7

Sorry but the achievement had very little integrity to begin with.

frozywozy

Made 1.7m AP today, should be Overlord tomorrow.

For all the toxic salty kids who keep coming in the thread saying that getting Grand Overlord doesn't mean skills, I also agree. I suggest that you read the replies before posting because your argument got countered a dozen times already.

Grand Overlord is a honorific title for players who have been playing this game for a long time. Nothing more, nothing less.

With Homestead AP buff, no CP nubs getting killed left and right, double AP and AP bonus, people are now getting ridiculous amount of APs with almost no efforts catching up on ranks that would have taken months to achieve prior of Homestead.

Anyway, nite!

Recremen

If every single Grand Overlord wasn't around for no diminishing returns, or never took part in AP trading, or didn't take advantage of a class-exclusive path to mondo gains, then I might care. As it is, though, on Trueflame NA PC we're getting all our AP the old-fashioned way, with murder and playing the map. So unless you suddenly skipped off to EU servers or a campaign that doesn't matter, then I don't even know what you're talking about.

fastolfv_ESO

when it comes to pvp and ranks you should never change how the currency works to earn said ranks, i hit rank 9-44 in the same system i dont want GO given to me

luen79rwb17_ESO

Well judging from just tonight, I liked tonight's gameplay alot: people laying down sieges and taking keeps and resources. Much better than the usual choke points.

thankyourat

I'm actually sad I can't play this weak I'm pretty much only one PvP rank away from my first star on my magblade. Made almost 80℅ of my AP playing solo PvP as well. I didn't even abuse proxy det, vicious death, or the destro ultimate. Just good old fashion, destro/resto

Hafgar_W

frozywozy wrote: »

Made 1.7m AP today, should be Overlord tomorrow.

For all the toxic salty kids who keep coming in the thread saying that getting Grand Overlord doesn't mean skills, I also agree. I suggest that you read the replies before posting because your argument got countered a dozen times already.

Grand Overlord is a honorific title for players who have been playing this game for a long time. Nothing more, nothing less.

With Homestead AP buff, no CP nubs getting killed left and right, double AP and AP bonus, people are now getting ridiculous amount of APs with almost no efforts catching up on ranks that would have taken months to achieve prior of Homestead.

Anyway, nite!

Frozy, I doubt even 5% of the total PvP population will actually get close to Grand Overlord this week, let alone achieve it. But the point is, most people don't PvP enough for that, even with double AP and healing springs or regeneration.

If we see an abundance of people wearing the title in a week, you can tell me I was wrong. Otherwise, be ready for some serious jokes over Discord

Enslaved

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

. I would rather have a working lag free game than any type of progression and I've been playing since launch.

Lag free? Have you tried minesweeper?