ONE SHOT NIGHTBLADE GANKING

Taylor_MB

Xinthisis wrote: »

@Lord_Hev Nah, he was banned for releasing the lead customer service reps personal number and also excessive racism.

For when normal racism just isn't enough.

LegacyDM

And who are all of you?

Anti ganking the Gankers with mark is golden. Nowhere to run and nowhere to hide is the greatest o crap moments. "And that folks, is the moment he knew he messed up."

Lava_Croft

Mark Target is like the bees from System Shock 2, instant random running around in panic.

Stoopid_Nwah

LegacyDM wrote: »

And who are all of you?

Anti ganking the Gankers with mark is golden. Nowhere to run and nowhere to hide is the greatest o crap moments. "And that folks, is the moment he knew he messed up."

And the reason I never run without purge on my bar .

Xinthisis

@Stoopid_Nwah Once zos takes away unbreakable mount cc, best believe purge is going in that flex spot on off bar. Until then, I'll continue to torture the mounts until change occurs in cyrodiil.

LegacyDM

Xinthisis wrote: »

@Stoopid_Nwah Once zos takes away unbreakable mount cc, best believe purge is going in that flex spot on off bar. Until then, I'll continue to torture the mounts until change occurs in cyrodiil.

Awww come on man that's weak sauce. Your going to exploit agony like that? That shows no skill and is a form of cancerous play. At least give people a chance rather than making them wait on a horse for 25 sec so that you can line up your burst from stealth... Bursting from stealth while people are in combat is one thing. Locking someone is place do to a broke mechanic and then torturing people is another.

That's the problem with players these days. The idea that because ZOS lets me do it and it's allowed in game, (even though we all know it's not intended).

Manoekin

I'm fairly certain you can dismount and break free while affected by cripple/agony. At least I've been able to do that while stunned in a similar fashion before. It just is not the first thing that comes to mind as most players use block or cast a spell in order to dismount without going through the dismount animation. That's right, if you've ever used such a way of getting off your mount you are a filthy animation canceller

LegacyDM

Manoekin wrote: »

I'm fairly certain you can dismount and break free while affected by cripple/agony. At least I've been able to do that while stunned in a similar fashion before. It just is not the first thing that comes to mind as most players use block or cast a spell in order to dismount without going through the dismount animation. That's right, if you've ever used such a way of getting off your mount you are a filthy animation canceller

Cripple yes. Agony no. Your perma locked on horseback for the 30 sec duration.

Stoopid_Nwah

LegacyDM wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

I'm fairly certain you can dismount and break free while affected by cripple/agony. At least I've been able to do that while stunned in a similar fashion before. It just is not the first thing that comes to mind as most players use block or cast a spell in order to dismount without going through the dismount animation. That's right, if you've ever used such a way of getting off your mount you are a filthy animation canceller

Cripple yes. Agony no. Your perma locked on horseback for the 30 sec duration.

On console (not sure why it would be any different) I don't think this is always the case. I'll admit after watching the op's ganking vids I put agony on my bar to see if it really was broken. I only tried it on about 10 people, but I would say 8 of them dismounted just fine then broke free of agony. The other 2 were frozen up however. I'm guessing it locks them if they are out of stam on their horse?

For what it's worth, it definitely felt cheap, so purge got its spot back on my bar. People already think ganking is skill less, so I try not to give them reasons to have an even poorer opinion of us.

Ernest145

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

LegacyDM wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

I'm fairly certain you can dismount and break free while affected by cripple/agony. At least I've been able to do that while stunned in a similar fashion before. It just is not the first thing that comes to mind as most players use block or cast a spell in order to dismount without going through the dismount animation. That's right, if you've ever used such a way of getting off your mount you are a filthy animation canceller

Cripple yes. Agony no. Your perma locked on horseback for the 30 sec duration.

On console (not sure why it would be any different) I don't think this is always the case. I'll admit after watching the op's ganking vids I put agony on my bar to see if it really was broken. I only tried it on about 10 people, but I would say 8 of them dismounted just fine then broke free of agony. The other 2 were frozen up however. I'm guessing it locks them if they are out of stam on their horse?

For what it's worth, it definitely felt cheap, so purge got its spot back on my bar. People already think ganking is skill less, so I try not to give them reasons to have an even poorer opinion of us.

I believe sribes said it in one of his other post, but you are suppose to hit the dismount key and not just spam cc break. I don't think its wrong for them to use it since there is a counter it's just some people don't use it. Gankers try the same thing on me and I dismount every time.

Xinthisis

@LegacyDM You can dismount and then cc break. However, you cannot cc break while still on mount.

LegacyDM

Xinthisis wrote: »

@LegacyDM You can dismount and then cc break. However, you cannot cc break while still on mount.

Good to know that the mechanics are working as intended. Casting skills or cc breaking is locked out, and it becomes a two step process, which in any case your dead by the time you dismount to cc break. Cheap still = cheap.

Bandit1215

Personally, I don't find ganking particularly fun. I'm not saying that it doesn't require skill, but it's not the kind of skilled play that I prefer. I prefer the reactionary in combat skill to adapt around you rather than setting up everything 100% perfectly and then insta kill people because of it. I really hate getting 1 shot ganked by people and occasionally rage whisper them about it and I don't really get why people like it so much. Like, doesn't it feel like the enemy has zero chance against you? They have no time to react or do anything, and sure you could say run radiant magelight or something, but it can be hard to fit skills or armor sets that counter ganking, which is unfortunately the only way to counter it.

Xinthisis

@Bandit1215 All I have to say is to try it.

Stoopid_Nwah

Bandit1215 wrote: »

Personally, I don't find ganking particularly fun. I'm not saying that it doesn't require skill, but it's not the kind of skilled play that I prefer. I prefer the reactionary in combat skill to adapt around you rather than setting up everything 100% perfectly and then insta kill people because of it. I really hate getting 1 shot ganked by people and occasionally rage whisper them about it and I don't really get why people like it so much. Like, doesn't it feel like the enemy has zero chance against you? They have no time to react or do anything, and sure you could say run radiant magelight or something, but it can be hard to fit skills or armor sets that counter ganking, which is unfortunately the only way to counter it.

For me, it's moreso the adrenaline rush of picking a player that is tbagging a low level with their group and then killing them without anyone even realizing what just happened. Then watching them search for me from a distance...and then the inevitable rage whisper.

Lore_lai

@LegacyDM - you can definitely dismount while Agony'd. It's so funny watching wannabe gankers try to do that on you and see them fail miserably because they're not fast enough to follow up.
People see these vids and think it's super smooth and anyone can do it on anyone without practice. lel. Gimme that free AP. nom nom nom.
TBH - I'm not impressed with the damage - pretty much anyone can reach high damage in today's game. What separates you is how slippery you can be and props also to team-work and supporting your partner <-- I think it's sometimes harder than solo when you know it's all on you and you don't have to worry about anything else but your own butt-butt.

Manoekin wrote: »

That's right, if you've ever used such a way of getting off your mount you are a filthy animation canceller

What happened to just being filthy?! :c

God_flakes

LegacyDM wrote: »

Xinthisis wrote: »

@LegacyDM You can dismount and then cc break. However, you cannot cc break while still on mount.

Good to know that the mechanics are working as intended. Casting skills or cc breaking is locked out, and it becomes a two step process, which in any case your dead by the time you dismount to cc break. Cheap still = cheap.

Is there a way to lock someone down with agony even when they're not mounted? I was locked down the other night by a round claw (wasn't cripple) for what felt like eternity, while megaburn and his friends beat on me. Oddly, I didn't take much damage while locked down. It wasn't until I was able to break free that I died.

Knootewoot

LegacyDM wrote: »

And who are all of you?

Anti ganking the Gankers with mark is golden. Nowhere to run and nowhere to hide is the greatest o crap moments. "And that folks, is the moment he knew he messed up."

Nothing an efficient purge can't fix. Well 2 efficient purges that is.

yell0wdart

I'd also love some good gank streamer suggestions. I wasn't a huge fan of zergbad as a person, but he was pretty good at what he did. The gank streamer I miss the most is Kerviz. I used to watch him every day. Wish he still played.

joe.smith21b14_ESO

More movies

Thelon

I like movies

Xinthisis

@yell0wdart hold that thought. Never know, a ganking stream with cancer free people might be in the works.

Xinthisis

@joe.smith21b14_ESO my shadowplay has been acting up. Havent been able to get clips. Ill try and scrounge together something.

joe.smith21b14_ESO

Xinthisis wrote: »

@joe.smith21b14_ESO my shadowplay has been acting up. Havent been able to get clips. Ill try and scrounge together something.

Food for thought you could possibly use other peoples gank clips it's really about the commentary and it could open up a little more commentary on other ninja playstyles. Know what I'm sayin

ManDraKE

Xinthisis wrote: »

@joe.smith21b14_ESO my shadowplay has been acting up. Havent been able to get clips. Ill try and scrounge together something.

Is not only yours. I haven't been able to get a single clip since i updated to GF3, at least while playing ESO. When i hit the record hotkey, the overlay shows up and says "5 minutes 0 seconds recorded" but when i go to the folder where the video file is supposed to be, is empty.

Kryptonite_Kent

I tried a few builds with the NB I just made... got tired of magplar, but that's another topic... I don't like Veli as I mainly use bow at range, just have 2H on offbar for buffs and then vigor and mass hysteria for o shite moments when people get too close.

That being said, I like a couple of different setups... #1. Viper x5, Spriggans x5, Kra'ghs x1 #2. Viper x5, Red Mountain x5, Kra'ghs x1 #3. Viper x5, Marksman x5, Kra'ghs x1.

I spec for solely bow damage, high penetration, shadow mundus, all divines, all medium, about 50%+ crit... the #1 setup is probably the best overall for guaranteed damage, #3 is pretty close to that, and #2 is somewhere in the middle with insane burst if both sets proc, but RM doesn't proc often enough with bow attacks. I have legit 1 lethal arrow shot dozens of people from stealth with all buffs up and them not expecting to be hit, and if they don't die from that, the follow up shot usually finishes them off with the exception of high resistance/high health builds.

Drummerx04

I kill A LOT of failed NB gankers either when they fail to gank me or when they gank a member of my crew, and it instantly becomes a game of cat and mouse, but @SRIBES and his crew are on a different level.

Probably the main thing that sets these guys apart is their teamwork, coordination, they hide their numbers quite well, and it looks like they can revive each other without ever displaying the reviving animation.

My group of around 9 at the time encountered them on the way to Roebeck Farm a few days ago and it turned into one of the most enjoyable NB hunts I've had for a while. I think the final count of gankers made it to 4, but I'm not sure we ever killed them all. That ghost rez thing is OP.

Takes-No-Prisoner

Drummerx04 wrote: »

teamwork

I prefer to use the term 'bush buddies' in this particular instance

Ghost-Shot

Drummerx04 wrote: »

I kill A LOT of failed NB gankers either when they fail to gank me or when they gank a member of my crew, and it instantly becomes a game of cat and mouse, but @SRIBES and his crew are on a different level.

Probably the main thing that sets these guys apart is their teamwork, coordination, they hide their numbers quite well, and it looks like they can revive each other without ever displaying the reviving animation.

My group of around 9 at the time encountered them on the way to Roebeck Farm a few days ago and it turned into one of the most enjoyable NB hunts I've had for a while. I think the final count of gankers made it to 4, but I'm not sure we ever killed them all. That ghost rez thing is OP.

Ressing brings you out of stealth but there is a way to do it without displaying the beam and no audio.

Xinthisis

Drummerx04 wrote: »

I kill A LOT of failed NB gankers either when they fail to gank me or when they gank a member of my crew, and it instantly becomes a game of cat and mouse, but @SRIBES and his crew are on a different level.

Probably the main thing that sets these guys apart is their teamwork, coordination, they hide their numbers quite well, and it looks like they can revive each other without ever displaying the reviving animation.

My group of around 9 at the time encountered them on the way to Roebeck Farm a few days ago and it turned into one of the most enjoyable NB hunts I've had for a while. I think the final count of gankers made it to 4, but I'm not sure we ever killed them all. That ghost rez thing is OP.

I'm glad you can appreciate the skill involved. It's definitely fun hunting groups, way off on the other side of the map making each wipe a painful run back. Well, not as painful with the speed we have. ;p

Anyway, take care. Look forward to the cat and mouse game with you guys in the future.

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