Jewel Crafting

ereboz

I would love to see jewel crafting in eso. What's everyone's else's thoughts on this? Would you like to see it? What kind of format would you like?

Rune_Relic

I think the reason its not in now is because of a fundamental problem
you cant have 2x crafted sets without it.
Imagine stacking 2x willows path.
Imagine 2x TBS which is considered one if not the best crafted set available.

Imagine having 8x divine pieces and 4 shrines all active at the same time.
People got banned for that exploit.

Do you remove TBS from the game to allow jewellery crafting ?
Do you rewrite many of the crafted sets to allow this to balance ?
Would people that have become accustomed to certain sets not become slighted irked if they are forcd to remake all their CP160 gold gear ?

Tabbycat

You could easily get around that problem by having unique sets for jewelry that are only available for crafting while still keeping the normal jewelry sets that drop in the game. I think it would be a nice thing for crafters to have, and if the 3 piece unique set bonus' were desirable, jewelcrafters could make a bit a money off it by selling them to others.

You could even tie the jewelcrafting sets to the various guilds... jewelcrafting stations in various mages guild's would offer sets beneficial to magic users, fighter's guild sets for tanky healthy builds, thieves guild sets for stamina/sneaky type builds, etc.

Alucardo

Rune_Relic wrote: »

I think the reason its not in now is because of a fundamental problem
you cant have 2x crafted sets without it.
Imagine stacking 2x willows path.
Imagine 2x TBS which is considered one if not the best crafted set available.

Imagine having 8x divine pieces and 4 shrines all active at the same time.
People got banned for that exploit.

Do you remove TBS from the game to allow jewellery crafting ?
Do you rewrite many of the crafted sets to allow this to balance ?
Would people that have become accustomed to certain sets not become slighted irked if they are forcd to remake all their CP160 gold gear ?

Bro you can't have 2 of the same set now... it will just say you have 10/5 pieces and only give you the one bonus.

I used to never really have an opinion on jewellery crafting, but I think it's time for it to be added. With better sets you can drop, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to wear 2 crafted sets.

Vostorn

Rune_Relic wrote: »

Imagine having 8x divine pieces and 4 shrines all active at the same time.
People got banned for that exploit.

TBS 5 pieces is "Allows you to have two Mundus Stone Boons at the same time."
So, even if having 10 pieces of one set is like heaving to sets (and I guess this is not the case), you could only have 2 mundus stones boons.

And if the problem is really the sets, simply don't place jewelry tables at the sets locations.

Imho, problem is that ZoS doesn't want us to upgrade our jewelry.

This could be easily avoided too if you can't upgrade your jewels but only create a good one immediately, like the glyphs.

MaKTaiL

Jewel crafting shouldn't be possible, however I would love to be able to improve the quality of the ones I drop.

Alucardo

MaKTaiL wrote: »

Jewel crafting shouldn't be possible, however I would love to be able to improve the quality of the ones I drop.

Care to explain WHY it shouldn't be possible? I'm curious.

Rune_Relic

Alucardo wrote: »

Rune_Relic wrote: »

I think the reason its not in now is because of a fundamental problem
you cant have 2x crafted sets without it.
Imagine stacking 2x willows path.
Imagine 2x TBS which is considered one if not the best crafted set available.

Imagine having 8x divine pieces and 4 shrines all active at the same time.
People got banned for that exploit.

Do you remove TBS from the game to allow jewellery crafting ?
Do you rewrite many of the crafted sets to allow this to balance ?
Would people that have become accustomed to certain sets not become slighted irked if they are forcd to remake all their CP160 gold gear ?

Bro you can't have 2 of the same set now... it will just say you have 10/5 pieces and only give you the one bonus.

I used to never really have an opinion on jewellery crafting, but I think it's time for it to be added. With better sets you can drop, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to wear 2 crafted sets.

7 armour pieces + 2 weapon slots = 9
How do you get 10 ???

If they added jewellery to crafted sets like TBS and willows of course you could have 2x5 crafted sets.
7+3+2
Am I missing something ?

At the moment you have to use dropped+crafted or dropped+dropped to get 2x 5 pc sets.

EDIT: oh! I get what you are saying. Dropped sets 5pc dont stack ? Never knew this. Bug or intentional ?

lardvader

Well this was in planning at some point but I think most of these plans are scrapped. Most BiS gear / jewelry are tied to DLC's and trials and gives us a "reason" to grind for it.

I'm not against it but it might be too complicated to implement it at this point. If anything I think we should be able to upgrade the jewelry.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

Rune_Relic wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Rune_Relic wrote: »

I think the reason its not in now is because of a fundamental problem
you cant have 2x crafted sets without it.
Imagine stacking 2x willows path.
Imagine 2x TBS which is considered one if not the best crafted set available.

Imagine having 8x divine pieces and 4 shrines all active at the same time.
People got banned for that exploit.

Do you remove TBS from the game to allow jewellery crafting ?
Do you rewrite many of the crafted sets to allow this to balance ?
Would people that have become accustomed to certain sets not become slighted irked if they are forcd to remake all their CP160 gold gear ?

Bro you can't have 2 of the same set now... it will just say you have 10/5 pieces and only give you the one bonus.

I used to never really have an opinion on jewellery crafting, but I think it's time for it to be added. With better sets you can drop, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to wear 2 crafted sets.

7 armour pieces + 2 weapon slots = 9
How do you get 10 ???

If they added jewellery to crafted sets like TBS and willows of course you could have 2x5 crafted sets.
7+3+2
Am I missing something ?

7 armour pieces + 2 weapon slots + 2 rings + 1 necklace = 12

MaKTaiL

Rune_Relic wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Rune_Relic wrote: »

I think the reason its not in now is because of a fundamental problem
you cant have 2x crafted sets without it.
Imagine stacking 2x willows path.
Imagine 2x TBS which is considered one if not the best crafted set available.

Imagine having 8x divine pieces and 4 shrines all active at the same time.
People got banned for that exploit.

Do you remove TBS from the game to allow jewellery crafting ?
Do you rewrite many of the crafted sets to allow this to balance ?
Would people that have become accustomed to certain sets not become slighted irked if they are forcd to remake all their CP160 gold gear ?

Bro you can't have 2 of the same set now... it will just say you have 10/5 pieces and only give you the one bonus.

I used to never really have an opinion on jewellery crafting, but I think it's time for it to be added. With better sets you can drop, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to wear 2 crafted sets.

7 armour pieces + 2 weapon slots = 9
How do you get 10 ???

If they added jewellery to crafted sets like TBS and willows of course you could have 2x5 crafted sets.
7+3+2
Am I missing something ?

At the moment you have to use dropped+crafted or dropped+dropped to get 2x 5 pc sets.

You can actually get 13 gear pieces at the same time. (2 daggers).

Alucardo

Rune_Relic wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Rune_Relic wrote: »

I think the reason its not in now is because of a fundamental problem
you cant have 2x crafted sets without it.
Imagine stacking 2x willows path.
Imagine 2x TBS which is considered one if not the best crafted set available.

Imagine having 8x divine pieces and 4 shrines all active at the same time.
People got banned for that exploit.

Do you remove TBS from the game to allow jewellery crafting ?
Do you rewrite many of the crafted sets to allow this to balance ?
Would people that have become accustomed to certain sets not become slighted irked if they are forcd to remake all their CP160 gold gear ?

If they added jewellery to crafted sets like TBS and willows of course you could have 2x5 crafted sets.
7+3+2
Am I missing something ?

You can, but I thought you meant like x2 TBS (that stack with each other giving you 4 mundus stones, for example).

Rune_Relic

Tabbycat wrote: »

You could easily get around that problem by having unique sets for jewelry that are only available for crafting while still keeping the normal jewelry sets that drop in the game. I think it would be a nice thing for crafters to have, and if the 3 piece unique set bonus' were desirable, jewelcrafters could make a bit a money off it by selling them to others.

You could even tie the jewelcrafting sets to the various guilds... jewelcrafting stations in various mages guild's would offer sets beneficial to magic users, fighter's guild sets for tanky healthy builds, thieves guild sets for stamina/sneaky type builds, etc.

This is true of course.
You could make the jewellery crafting unique 3pc sets only.
I was looking at the broader picture of dropped gear outclassing crafted gear too I guess.

Mettaricana

Rune_Relic wrote: »

I think the reason its not in now is because of a fundamental problem
you cant have 2x crafted sets without it.
Imagine stacking 2x willows path.
Imagine 2x TBS which is considered one if not the best crafted set available.

Imagine having 8x divine pieces and 4 shrines all active at the same time.
People got banned for that exploit.

Do you remove TBS from the game to allow jewellery crafting ?
Do you rewrite many of the crafted sets to allow this to balance ?
Would people that have become accustomed to certain sets not become slighted irked if they are forcd to remake all their CP160 gold gear ?

Umm you can't stack double of same set wearing say all slots warlock won't double its effect

Sallington

Rune_Relic wrote: »

I think the reason its not in now is because of a fundamental problem
you cant have 2x crafted sets without it.
Imagine stacking 2x willows path.
Imagine 2x TBS which is considered one if not the best crafted set available.

Imagine having 8x divine pieces and 4 shrines all active at the same time.
People got banned for that exploit.

Do you remove TBS from the game to allow jewellery crafting ?
Do you rewrite many of the crafted sets to allow this to balance ?
Would people that have become accustomed to certain sets not become slighted irked if they are forcd to remake all their CP160 gold gear ?

This is not how the game works.

Enslaved

I would love to see jewelry crafting in ESO. Best way to do that is to unlock that feature once you master few if not all crafting skills. Raw materials could be extracted from jewelry we find around the world, and gold upgrade materials could drop from group dungeon bosses or be made mixing for example kutas with tempering alloy or something similar. Lower tempers would be possible to extract from jewelry we find. Or materials could drop from current nods just like casserite have drop chance in Wrothgar or nirncrux has drop chance in Clagorn. Or ZOS could simply add new type of nods. This would not be too much OP, just will give master crafters another tool to earn some gold, since 1T introduced many sets that are better than most of the craftable ones.

Mettaricana

Only problem I see for jewelry crafting is there's only three traits vs tbs having 9 so either they have to make say one trait allows like 1-4 trait s
Sets crafted and two traits allows 5-8 and the third trait allows 9 trait sets to be made

Enslaved

MaKTaiL wrote: »

You can actually get 13 gear pieces at the same time. (2 daggers).

7pc armor
3pc jewelry
2 weapons
____________

12 pc total

Alucardo

Enslaved wrote: »

MaKTaiL wrote: »

You can actually get 13 gear pieces at the same time. (2 daggers).

7pc armor
3pc jewelry
2 weapons
____________

12 pc total

Bro you forgot ear rings, which brings it up to 13

InvitationNotFound

well, while I think crafting jewelry would be a great addition, I doubt it would be of great use in the current state (elder procs online).

Most people I've seen are going for 2 drop sets instead of anything crafted, unfortunately. There aren't that many really good crafted sets left or they are only viable for certain builds.

Alucardo

InvitationNotFound wrote: »

well, while I think crafting jewelry would be a great addition, I doubt it would be of great use in the current state (elder procs online).

Most people I've seen are going for 2 drop sets instead of anything crafted, unfortunately. There aren't that many really good crafted sets left or they are only viable for certain builds.

It's sad. I remember the days where I'd run Seducer and 4pc Magnus, or when Julianos and Magnus was good. Now I'm all about the Burning Spellweave and Rattlecage, and combos like that. You really don't need crafted sets any more.
Having said that, Eternal Hunt is still good for annoying people, and Alchemist is great for ganking. Basically, if you want a niche build, crafting is still OK.

NetflixNChiill

I would like the ability to upgrade jewellery since you can only get gold jewellery in hard mode trials now

Fabulosity

I've imagined jewellery crafting before, and this is how I'd like it to work.

Jewellery crafting would fall under woodworking, so you can make some kind of necklace, and two wooden rings (or bracelets?). Crafting works similarly to other set items. You need to research traits, with 3 variations of each of arcane, robust and healthy traits adding up to 9 total traits. Having 1 trait researched in arcane will allow you to make weak arcane rings, 2 for moderate, and 3 for maximum strength arcane rings. You would need all 9 traits researched to make an arcane ring of the Twice Born Star set.

Cherryblossom

sorry everyone else had pointed out relic's mistake

But would love to see this, plus some new 3 piece Jewelry sets!

Or the addition of 2 earings @Alucardo would be great, imagine the fun and different builds you could create. It'd probably screw balance but hey *** everything else does anyway.

STEVIL

used to be opposed.
Now since all the overland sets allow jewelry and weapons - i am for it.
There are now so many drop sets comparable with crafted to make it to me obvious that it is no longer a concern balance wise.
Whether or not it also allows quality increases and how you get the tokens for it, thats another issue.

Swomp23

InvitationNotFound wrote: »

well, while I think crafting jewelry would be a great addition, I doubt it would be of great use in the current state (elder procs online).

Most people I've seen are going for 2 drop sets instead of anything crafted, unfortunately. There aren't that many really good crafted sets left or they are only viable for certain builds.

Crafted sets like TBS are BiS for PVE. It's only in PVP, where you need huge burst dmg that ppl are running only proc sets. And from what I hear from PVP guys, it really destroyed gameplay

BigBragg

I would love to see jewel crafting, and it clearly isn't too late as they are adding in furniture crafting with housing.

Swomp23

For the record, I'd love to be able to jewelry craft/improve.

Waseem

NO for jewelry crafting.
its good that you have to play the game to get jewelry in its own unique way.. anything else is craftable, does not mean that everything must be craftable

Metal10957

I can agree crafting jewelry would be nice, but we can already enchant rings or necklaces. My problem is if you can craft set bonuses or traits to the jewelry, that would be very unbalanced.

Neoauspex

Player housing is coming. Crafting stations are rumored to be available in your home. Maybe... jewelry crafting stations?