PTS Patch Notes v2.5.0

Minalan

ZOS fix the mess you made with the sorcerer class!

Start with the inadequate passives, non-existent instant heals and missing defensive abilities, then address shield duration.

MissBizz

Healer’s Habit: This item set’s bonus has been changed to grant Minor Mending.

I'm actually kind of glad about this. Instead of trying to get the CP160 one... I'll just hang out in my mansion (house).

Asmael

Footman’s Fortune: Reduced the amount of block mitigation provided by this item set to 8%, down from 12%.

I smell incoming despair on the forums.

Robust Constitution: This passive ability has been renamed to “Nimble.” Also, it no longer increases your Health Recovery by 6/13/20%. It now increases your Max Stamina by 2/4/6% and continues to increase your Stamina Recovery by 3/6/10%.

Alright, so 6% max stam + 8% weapon crit vs 12% max stam.

So you want literally 100% of competitive stam builds in PvE to be khajiits?

Steffi_K

CP5 wrote: »

Not a fan of khajiit no longer having health regen as one of their passives, they are AD's more durable race but now they have 2 stamina dps races. Will see how this plays out, but overall, meh.

totaly agree I like my khajiit as it is I dont need that 6% more stam -_-

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS, BASE GAME PATCH
Khajiit Skills

Medium Armor Expertise: This passive ability has been renamed to “Cutpurse.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases your chance to successfully pickpocket by 5%.
Robust Constitution: This passive ability has been renamed to “Nimble.” Also, it no longer increases your Health Recovery by 6/13/20%. It now increases your Max Stamina by 2/4/6% and continues to increase your Stamina Recovery by 3/6/10%.

Plz no leave the HP Recovery as it is! Why more stamina?

cpuScientist

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom is this the full notes. Really no SORC changes. No DK changes. Just a visual change and call it George. LOL get ready for a second round of forums. I just know now not to waste my time contributing to them...

Reorx_Holybeard

Undaunted Chests Improvements
We've improved the rewards from the Undaunted chests! Now, the items you obtain from these chests will always scale all the way up to your current level and Champion Rank. We've also increased the availability of Monster Set Shoulder items in these chests: You will always find a Monster Set Shoulder piece in the Gold chest, often in the Silver chest, and occasionally in the Bronze chest.

How is this different than how it is on live currently? Isn't it 100% for gold keys on live, 50% for silver, and 25%? for Bronze?

Shadesofkin

Go Dark Elf, Go Dark Elf, go go go Go Dark Elf!

runagate

Yet more proof that people who do not play this game do not understand the implications of the changes they make. Enjoy the racial balancing firestorm incoming. So many "smack head" moments reading these patch notes - which don't even add much to the game - and the damage these thoughtless changes do to all our hard work is hard to overstate.

Shuichi

cpuScientist wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom is this the full notes. Really no SORC changes. No DK changes. Just a visual change and call it George. LOL get ready for a second round of forums. I just know now not to waste my time contributing to them...

You've wasted your time posting in this thread 3-4 times already, the reason no sorc changes were made is because the vast majority of players aren't seeing the issues you are, since they've taken time to learn and adapt. L2P issue

Trenia

You buffed the strongest stamina class in the game, in Khajits. Why did you think this was a good idea? The only reason behind this buff is to force people to change to khajit and make money. Give us another option for stamina. What the hell?

Miszou

Well, there goes my Argonian Tank.... FFS.

Honestly, WTF is that?

I hope everyone that cried about Argonian Racial passives is happy with this change, because it just gimped every Argonian Tank in the game.

Argonian Templar Healer or GTFO.

Kattemynte

Honestly, I was hoping for a nerf to racial passives where choosing one race over the other was more of flavor than choosing for min/max. For example, 10% more magicka for breton and high-elf is huge for magicka builds. No point in choosing any other race. However, if it was only 5% it would not be as ground breaking making even a Khajjit caster not feel under-powered because Khajjit was chosen for RP purposes and not having the most dps.

adamt88yep

RIP my Argonian Templar Tank and Bonjour my Argonian Templar Healer

Semner

Dracane wrote: »

Semner wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

My god, Pets need buffs not nerfs ! Necropotence is the only set that helps them

I have calculated everything and Necropotence must AT LEAST grant 2775 Magicka to make it at least equal to what it is right now.
Nice that I probably have to wait 2 weeks until I can see the change, because guild stores don't work on pts and I will not be able to see the set.

2775? It granted me like 5k when active. >.<

You don't see what I am up to Necropotence grants exactly 3711 Magicka.
Updating the set from V12 to V16 will increase the magicka from 2,3,4 trait and enchant by a total of 936
So actually, we would win 936 Magicka if they would not nerf it.

Now where this set has a flat value, that value must be at least 2775 Magicka to make it equal to what it used to be, considering the gain from V16 enchants etc

EDIT: Just for clarification, I am refering to the 5 piece set bonus when I speak about 3711 Magicka

Oh, I see what you mean now. That does make sense. Good catch.

Tonnopesce

Yeah well ty but how about the people who decide to do a "shadowscale" argonian/Nightblade toon?

I don't want a healer i want a killer...

Shadesofkin

BTW, I think the sets in AA and Hel Ra were reversed. Just a heads up/

rhapsodious

Miszou wrote: »

Well, there goes my Argonian Tank.... FFS.

Honestly, WTF is that?

I hope everyone that cried about Argonian Racial passives is happy with this change, because it just gimped every Argonian Tank in the game.

Argonian Templar Healer or GTFO.

Wait, what? A 9% decrease in healing received means that your build is ruined?

Care to elaborate, because I'm not seeing how this is horrible... it's not great, but magicka!

- an Argonian nightblade who's pretty pleased with the changes

reclaimervii.sierra117ub17_ESO

Seriously ZO$ why change racial changes that NO ONE WANTED TO BE CHANGED, we just wanted you to change the lame races

Nifty2g

@ZOS you forgot to give High Elves magic damage

arkansas_ESO

On racials:

• Argonians' 12% increase to healing done is pretty insane. I get a feeling that you guys were trying to make racials more of a flavor thing and less relevant to your character's performance in endgame stuff like dungeons and PVP, and this change goes against that idea completely. Why would I play a healer of any other race when an Argonian's heals would be 12% stronger?
• Bretons' increase to AP also doesn't feel cool. Granted, 1% is nothing, but I still strongly dislike the concept of somebody beating somebody else on the leaderboards just because of the race they chose.
• I get a feeling you guys are trying to cull health regen builds from the game.

code65536

I know this is rather nitpicky, but...

When you think "Opportunist", you think of things like wealth and gold. Not prestige and standing (AP).

When you think "Diplomat", you think prestige and standing (AP). Not wealth and gold.

Breton's Opportunist should provide a 1% gold gain, and Imperial's Diplomat should provide a 1% AP gain. It fits better with the words, with TES lore, and it makes sense that Imperials should have a (tiny) advantage in their own home province whereas the merchant-class Bretons should be the ones getting the (tiny) gold bonus.

Miszou

rhapsodious wrote: »

Miszou wrote: »

Well, there goes my Argonian Tank.... FFS.

Honestly, WTF is that?

I hope everyone that cried about Argonian Racial passives is happy with this change, because it just gimped every Argonian Tank in the game.

Argonian Templar Healer or GTFO.

Wait, what? A 9% decrease in healing received means that your build is ruined?

Care to elaborate, because I'm not seeing how this is horrible... it's not great, but magicka!

- an Argonian nightblade who's pretty pleased with the changes

It's actually kinda crappy for all Argonians that aren't healers... IMHO, this change just pigeonholes Argonians into healers and makes the racial passives WORSE for every other role.

Nifty2g

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

On racials:

• I get a feeling you guys are trying to cull health regen builds from the game.

Because they are realizing its uselessness

CyrusArya

Gear levels stay the same and Altmer and Redguard were not nerfed. That's all I really wanted from this patch, well done.

Lord_Eomer

Dark Elf Vampires are dommed, Imperials 1% gold gain? bretons and High Elf are further improved along with Khajit and Nords, Argonians are now called healers..

Why even bothered Orc and Wood Elf?

Redguard buff is funny indeed, who wants Consumed Food duration buff?

Vinther

TL;DR
Khajit remains #1 choice for stamina DPS in PvE and is now stronger than ever
Redguard remains #1 choice for stamina PvP

Dunmer/Altmer remains #1 choice for Magicka DPS PvE
Argonian takes the #1 from Breton for healer PvE

Imperial still > Nord when it comes to tanking

ckbud

No new motifs being added to learn from this DLC?

Van_0S

code65536 wrote: »

I know this is rather nitpicky, but...

When you think "Opportunist", you think of things like wealth and gold. Not prestige and standing (AP).

When you think "Diplomat", you think prestige and standing (AP). Not wealth and gold.

Breton's Opportunist should provide a 1% gold gain, and Imperial's Diplomat should provide a 1% AP gain. It fits better with the words, with TES lore, and it makes sense that Imperials should have a (tiny) advantage in their own home province whereas the merchant-class Bretons should be the ones getting the (tiny) gold bonus.

Wrobel, you better look in to this!
There are errors in your changes to racial passives.

Imperials are romans and they value honour and courage more than wealth, hence the ceasers have to continously prove that to his people or he will be ditched by the people and the senate.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @Wrobel

Vinther

So Khajit remains #1 choice for stamina DPS in PvE
Redguard remains #1 choice for stamina PvP

Dunmer/Altmer remains #1 choice for Magicka DPS PvE
Argonian takes the #1 from Breton for healer PvE

And Imperial still > Nord when it comes to tanking.


So much about the promised diversity, eh!?

I'm forced to roll Khajit for competitive pve dps and reroll my breton healer to argonian....

I don't like the freaking tails, but i refuse to play gimp races.

So I guess I'll stick to my dunmer magplar and magblade and just DPS through the whole content, because *** this.

Abeille

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

Yeah well ty but how about the people who decide to do a "shadowscale" argonian/Nightblade toon?

I don't want a healer i want a killer...

Yep, still no lore-friendly sneaky Argonians ~.~

Also that +5% chance of pickpocketing for Khajiit and 10% less fall damage for Bosmer... I think it could be the other way round. Thieving is a negative Khajiiti stereotype, but it is a cultural aspect of the Bosmer (Right of Theft). Also I thought cats were the ones who always landed on their feet? Heheh. It will still be fun to jump around with my Bosmer and hopefully not die as much.

And I would really like if the "Ashlander" passive was named something else. We House Dunmer wouldn't want to be associated with... them.

All in all, my main character was consolidated as my XP grinder, my Breton Magicka NB as my PvP character (one day), my Imperial Priest (Magicka Templar healer) is making more money (LOL), my Bosmer is going to be jumping around a lot and the rest of my characters are not too affected by the changes.