PTS Patch Notes v2.5.0

Docmandu

Happy CP cap increase is only 30... 0 would have been better.. but can live with 30 and no gear cap increase. Yet more damage in Cyrodiil due to this cap increase, but it's already instagib in some cases, so that won't change much.

Erock25

So they said two new monster helm sets but didn't give the stats? Is this how update notes usually go or do they usually tell you what new items they introduced?

Khydan

Contraptions wrote: »

Is that all? Quite underwhelming honestly.

This

Van_0S

Clerics1985 wrote: »

Please just get rid of the Dunmer, you've killed any reason to EVER use him. Frost and shock damage from a Dunmer? wtf is that logic?

You mis-understood fire damage will be the same but in addition frost and shock damage will be added.
But the resistance to fire damage is gone.So, its bad for vampire dunmer.

Semner

Erock25 wrote: »

So they said two new monster helm sets but didn't give the stats? Is this how update notes usually go or do they usually tell you what new items they introduced?

Typically the new monster set stats aren't included in patch notes. But you can view them easily enough once you get on the PTS.

Lokov

Clerics1985 wrote: »

Please just get rid of the Dunmer, you've killed any reason to EVER use him. Frost and shock damage from a Dunmer? wtf is that logic?

lolwhat? flame damage is still active, but they add frost and shock damage. Read attentively.

Docmandu

Fortress: Fixed an issue where this passive ability was erroneously reducing the cost of all weapon abilities, instead of only One Hand and Shield abilities.

ZOS should run a query for people that activate this passive on their character today when not even using 1H/shield. Will be an interesting metric for sure :-) Maybe put a marker on those accounts, will be useful in the future to speed up certain queries when other issues are found and fixed.

manavortex

Thanks for patching.
So looking forward to the barber-... style parlour!

Derra

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

rhapsodious wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

I think the class changes are missing? There is no way zero class changes were made, especially with all of the minor buffs and tweaks that are needed.

There were only a few.

Nightblade

• Shadow
  • Shadow Cloak: Fixed an issue where the invisibility granted by this ability and its morphs was being broken by certain cast time and charge abilities, such as Uppercut and Critical Charge.
• Siphoning
  • Siphoning Attacks (Siphoning Strikes Morph): Fixed an issue where the cost of Rank IV of this ability was slightly cheaper than intended and was not greying out on your action bar when you lacked the resources to cast it.

Sorcerer

• Daedric Summoning
  • Bound Armor: This ability and its morphs now display new, permanent visual effects when they are toggled on. The new visuals are significantly less obtrusive than before and no longer hide all the other gear your character is wearing.
  • Summon Unstable Familiar: The pet summoned from this ability and its morphs will no longer follow you quite as close when you are out of combat. This will help prevent it from interfering with non-combat activities such as looting and pickpocketing. These pets now position themselves at your left side.
  • Summon Winged Twilight: The pet summoned from this ability and its morphs will no longer follow you quite as close when you are out of combat. This will help prevent it from interfering with non-combat activities such as looting and pickpocketing. These pets now position themselves at your right side.

Templar

• Aedric Spear
  • Burning Light: Updated this passive ability’s tooltip to be clearer, and to indicate the proc’s internal cooldown.
• Dawn’s Wrath
  • Power of the Light (Backlash Morph): Updated this morph’s visual effects and icon.

Those are just tooltip adjustments/clearifications, that is not buffs or tweaks to skills. It has to be an oversight and they were just not added by accident. Otherwise why do we have dev meetings? Not a single thing from the past 3 meetings was even adjusted in here class wise.

Not a single thing.

#wrobelknowsbest

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Papa_Hunt wrote: »

I know this is going into testing, but when is this patch supposed to hit the live servers?

We'll have the full launch details article going up tomorrow with dates and pricing.

sentientomega

Shuichi wrote: »

sentientomega wrote: »

At what point would the appearance change token be consumed?

When you entered the appearance changer screen to take a note of your character appearance bar details and the like and then exit, or only when you make changes, confirm them and then exit?

The token is consumed when the changes are finalized. Mess around all you want at no cost

So it is definitely possible to enter character customisation, take a note of the appearance stats, and then leave that screen, token intact?

That'd be great, since 16/24 chars of mine don't have screenshots taken of their customisation traits, the 8 new ones do.

Also, how much are the tokens?

RDMyers65b14_ESO

*facepalms*

Never did they say that this would be the magicka update. Some have made that false assumption. That was TWO updates ago with Thieves' Guild. Stamina was the Dark Brotherhood.

The next thing will be One Tamriel and that should be a bigger thing. That is what they are gearing up for and I would imagine taking a lot of their resources right now.

victorhrpereira

Still no fix for Dragon Blood? It's been broken since Imperial City release. Also, Nords are still lacking, they are basically an inferior Imperial. Give them 9% Max Stamina instead of 6% and they may become interesting.

Van_0S

Derra wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

rhapsodious wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

I think the class changes are missing? There is no way zero class changes were made, especially with all of the minor buffs and tweaks that are needed.

There were only a few.

Nightblade

• Shadow
  • Shadow Cloak: Fixed an issue where the invisibility granted by this ability and its morphs was being broken by certain cast time and charge abilities, such as Uppercut and Critical Charge.
• Siphoning
  • Siphoning Attacks (Siphoning Strikes Morph): Fixed an issue where the cost of Rank IV of this ability was slightly cheaper than intended and was not greying out on your action bar when you lacked the resources to cast it.

Sorcerer

• Daedric Summoning
  • Bound Armor: This ability and its morphs now display new, permanent visual effects when they are toggled on. The new visuals are significantly less obtrusive than before and no longer hide all the other gear your character is wearing.
  • Summon Unstable Familiar: The pet summoned from this ability and its morphs will no longer follow you quite as close when you are out of combat. This will help prevent it from interfering with non-combat activities such as looting and pickpocketing. These pets now position themselves at your left side.
  • Summon Winged Twilight: The pet summoned from this ability and its morphs will no longer follow you quite as close when you are out of combat. This will help prevent it from interfering with non-combat activities such as looting and pickpocketing. These pets now position themselves at your right side.

Templar

• Aedric Spear
  • Burning Light: Updated this passive ability’s tooltip to be clearer, and to indicate the proc’s internal cooldown.
• Dawn’s Wrath
  • Power of the Light (Backlash Morph): Updated this morph’s visual effects and icon.

Those are just tooltip adjustments/clearifications, that is not buffs or tweaks to skills. It has to be an oversight and they were just not added by accident. Otherwise why do we have dev meetings? Not a single thing from the past 3 meetings was even adjusted in here class wise.

Not a single thing.

#wrobelknowsbest

I hope you guys know the changes to racial passives is done by Wrobel!

Shadesofkin

Clerics1985 wrote: »

Please just get rid of the Dunmer, you've killed any reason to EVER use him. Frost and shock damage from a Dunmer? wtf is that logic?

What? They got a buff, why would we get rid of them?

zuto40

wow way to nerf health regen builds with the orc, this is a disgusting update, and ashlander?!?!?! WHAT USE IS THAT

Shadesofkin

Lokov wrote: »

Hi ZOS, time to recognize a mistake has come. Just remove champion system from game. All will tell you thanks and it will be simpler to you to balance game. Less balance problems, less lags at Cyrodiil etc.

That is crazy talk.

I love the CP system

Toc de Malsvi

Vinther wrote: »

Orc is bad

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Dark Elf Vampires are dommed, Imperials 1% gold gain? bretons and High Elf are further improved along with Khajit and Nords, Argonians are now called healers..

Why even bothered Orc and Wood Elf?

Redguard buff is funny indeed, who wants Consumed Food duration buff?

Orc is badass strong as certain builds anyway and now the 5% healing received will make it even stronger in pvp
Wood elf is already the best pvp ganker.

? 3% stamina is not some massive buff over 8% crit. Now Khajits get 8% crit and 3% more stamina than Woodelfs, which is exactly the reason why some ask why bother with a woodelf.

HoolDog

I may have missed this but no mention of master weapon changes from Dragonstar?

SirCritical

Sorry, but no fixes for the grouping tool? Sad here

But overall, these are good changes, I think. Even if ZOS haven't improved bosmer

timidobserver

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Updates to the loot for Maw of Lorkhaj will arrive in a later patch .

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Another pts patch or another update entirely?

Semner

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Dragonstar Arena Improvements
Test your strength against the denizens of the Dragonstar Arena!

• Monsters have had their difficulty increased as well as their rewards.
• Items and Weapon Sets obtained in the Arena have been updated to scale up to max level, which is Champion 160.
• Four older item sets have been updated and drop in Dragonstar Arena at Champion 160. They are:
  • Archer's Mind
  • Destruction Master
  • Footman
  • Healer

I would assume that "Items and Weapon Sets obtained in the Arena have been updated to scale up to max level, which is Champion 160" means that Master weapons will scale, yes.

Dromede

Wow guys, so much negativity Please keep in mind that that's PTS changes, and allow more time for more.

Loving the racial changes so far! Seems goofy and traditional to Elder Scrolls. That money perk for Imperials tho

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

timidobserver wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Updates to the loot for Maw of Lorkhaj will arrive in a later patch .

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Another pts patch or another update entirely?

A later PTS incremental patch. Updated this Known Issue to be more clear.

Detector

cap increase only 30?

Alpheu5

Racial
Argonian Skills
Amphibious: This passive ability has been renamed to “Resourceful.” Also, it no longer increases your swimming speed by 50%.

NO!!!

It now increases your Max Magicka by 1/2/3%, and continues to restore 4/8/12% of your Max Health, Magicka, and Stamina whenever you drink a potion.

YES!!!

Restoration Expertise: This passive ability has been renamed to “Amphibian.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases your swimming speed by 50%.

Whew, too close.

MichYodias

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS, BASE GAME PATCH



[*]Breton Skills

• Light Armor Affinity: This passive ability has been renamed to “Opportunist.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases your Alliance Points gained by 1%.

This makes Bretons the inferior magicka race for heals and DPS. Bretons need something to give players a choice when choosing between dark elf and high elf. In my opinion they should get 2% increase to magic damage (magic version of orc weapon damage), or an increase to spell crit (like magic version of khajit), or an increase of the cost reduction passive to 5-6%. One of these changes will at least make bretons and option, especially the spell crit because it was provide a choice to argonian for healing in addition to DPS vs dark elf and high elf.

rhapsodious

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Racial
Argonian Skills
Amphibious: This passive ability has been renamed to “Resourceful.” Also, it no longer increases your swimming speed by 50%.

NO!!!

It now increases your Max Magicka by 1/2/3%, and continues to restore 4/8/12% of your Max Health, Magicka, and Stamina whenever you drink a potion.

YES!!!

Restoration Expertise: This passive ability has been renamed to “Amphibian.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases your swimming speed by 50%.

Whew, too close.

Glad I'm not the only one who had this roller coaster of emotions.

Essiaga

I also thinks racial passives would be better if the were simply toned down. 10% increases are a bit extreme. We shouldn't HAVE to pick a race based on it's passives. We should pick them because they appeal to our personality or our characters personality. 1/2/3% or 2/3/4% or even 2/4/6% wouldn't be so bad.

No one should say "I got out DPSed because I'm an Argonian" or "You stink at tanking because he's an Argonian." or "Your heals stink cause your not an Argonian."

But ZOS has been moving more towards segregated stam / magicka rather then 'play your way' for a long time. I miss hybrid builds. I kinda wish for ever point you put in stamina or magicka you got 50% (or so) of the other trait as well.

Talyena

I see a problem with a few of the new passives intended to replace the skill passives. You replaced some that gave you experience in a skill line to ones that give you experience overall (High Elf) or in crafting skill lines (Orc). Eventually you will hit the cap and those will be as useless as the old ones.

Some ideas to use instead of those would be 5% improved lockpick or x% increase in weapon enchants or x% resist to crits or 1 meter reduced stealth detection radius or something along those lines where x is a really small number. Just trying to stay away from passives that are useful for a while and then become useless which is the problem with the passives being replaced.