This is entirely avoidable. If you only have 1 toon and find yourself on a faction that is PvDooring and nightcapping, simply switch to a more balanced campaign (even if temporarily). Or create another toon on the other faction and play for the losing side. On principal I don't play my EP when they have Emp, would be the same for my AD but AD has not has Emp since I created an alternate faction toon.
Very true! I did do that once, made an EP toon to help out on a campaign but I heard a guild leader of mine say (quite venomously in fact) that they'd kick anyone who was in Cyrodiil but playing AD or EP aka being a TRAITOR. That kind of scared me away - I have a very strong loyalty to DC and would be very upset if I was kicked or labelled a traitor/spy, but I really want to help people out in their time of need and it doesn't seem fair to keep kicking people when they're down. Is there any solution to this predicament??
ellahellabella wrote: »PenguinInACan wrote: »may he not hold the throne until probably like 0400 EST tomorrow morning.
He brought folks in from Haderus last night. Very tsunami and very much ow
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Our group is a lot smaller than EP or ADs. It gets really frustrating at times, when you are indeed rotating more remembrances than I have players in a group. This is generally what were up against.
ellahellabella wrote: »PenguinInACan wrote: »may he not hold the throne until probably like 0400 EST tomorrow morning.
He brought folks in from Haderus last night. Very tsunami and very much ow
Grouping with Krotha was 'bringing people in from Haderus'? Krotha, his friends and I went to Haderus that night to get speez emperor. We were able to. Then we went to Azura to PvP. Ended up getting emp as well.
But I brought a tsunami of blues in??? Cmon. You can even see pretty much every time I get crowned on stream. There is fighting, generally a very long one at BRK. Because I dont have other groups to help siege, and EP watches where my group goes, so theres no bursting it without them seeing.
So no, theres nobody 'night capping DC emp for free'. Maybe this happened in the past. I haven't woke up with emperor once this campaign.
Good fights and all, it really was. But I dont get some of those comments. Night capping, and bringing zergs from Haderus?
Our group is a lot smaller than EP or ADs. It gets really frustrating at times, when you are indeed rotating more remembrances than I have players in a group. This is generally what were up against.
It doesn't matter how many are in your group Fengrush and you know this. The DC blob follows your "small man" around wherever you go and ,although you may not intend, your group surfs the DC zerg. Getting Emp consistently at 4:00 am est is night capping on this server period and has been done by DC on this campaign for many months now.
lolkpittsniperb14_ESO wrote: »blah blah snip DC can't hold emperor or push the map during prime time with real competition. This is proven night after night. 4:00am EST crowning is the norm.
NightSquirrel wrote: »snip vid
We arrived last minute, and pretty much one at a time; favorite moment is at 30 seconds in . . .
lolkpittsniperb14_ESO wrote: »blah blah snip DC can't hold emperor or push the map during prime time with real competition. This is proven night after night. 4:00am EST crowning is the norm.
shots fired pew pewNightSquirrel wrote: »snip vid
We arrived last minute, and pretty much one at a time; favorite moment is at 30 seconds in . . .
every time you guys post a video, in regards to being out numbered and yet succeeding
i always think of this:
https://youtu.be/3Y75-wJa7MQ
same goes for the ep guys ^^^
lolkpittsniperb14_ESO wrote: »blah blah snip DC can't hold emperor or push the map during prime time with real competition. This is proven night after night. 4:00am EST crowning is the norm.
shots fired pew pewNightSquirrel wrote: »snip vid
We arrived last minute, and pretty much one at a time; favorite moment is at 30 seconds in . . .
every time you guys post a video, in regards to being out numbered and yet succeeding
i always think of this:
https://youtu.be/3Y75-wJa7MQ
same goes for the ep guys ^^^
I dont really take that as shots fired. I run a group of like 3-6 people the last couple weeks. A few of the guys from the group we had running have taken a break. If 3 bar EP and 3 bar AD double teaming to stop FENGRUSHs 4 man group and DCs groups made from zone chat is big plays for you then take it.
My group is always smaller then AD or EPs.
PenguinInACan wrote: »lolkpittsniperb14_ESO wrote: »blah blah snip DC can't hold emperor or push the map during prime time with real competition. This is proven night after night. 4:00am EST crowning is the norm.
shots fired pew pewNightSquirrel wrote: »snip vid
We arrived last minute, and pretty much one at a time; favorite moment is at 30 seconds in . . .
every time you guys post a video, in regards to being out numbered and yet succeeding
i always think of this:
https://youtu.be/3Y75-wJa7MQ
same goes for the ep guys ^^^
I dont really take that as shots fired. I run a group of like 3-6 people the last couple weeks. A few of the guys from the group we had running have taken a break. If 3 bar EP and 3 bar AD double teaming to stop FENGRUSHs 4 man group and DCs groups made from zone chat is big plays for you then take it.
My group is always smaller then AD or EPs.
Your group is smaller than AD or EP's. Everyone can see it from stream's or from fighting you. It's not you or your group in isolation that is the problem. It is the fact that DC captures emp and all other point allocating keeps/scrolls/resources on the map in off hours NA.
DC also has 3 bars during prime time and emp. Anyone who has played as long as you or I have knows that having emp during prime time means you will get focused by both factions until emp is no longer a factor. There shouldn't be an expectation of holding emperor on AZ unless you have the organization to keep it through prime time NA. You have played the game long enough and in enough competitive groups/campaigns to know that emp pulls both enemy factions against you.
Unfortunately (or fortunately) you are starting to become one of the cornerstones of the ESO PvP community, which means everything you say on these forums or on your streams or even in PM's will be scrutinized and used to make you look bad. So you might want to take that in consideration when anyone with an internet connection can call out anything they think is BS.
Yes you run in small scale groups. Yes you fight larger numbers. You also fight in the midst of DC's 3 bar pop in an NA off hour when AD/EP have no organization. You also lose emp consistently when AD/EP/DC have traditionally had the most organization and combined population. You have also not secured emperor when the average population of the server was at 2 bars.
All of these things have been said over and over and you have yet to knowledge that AZ did not need DC, AZ did not need a very popular DC streamer to join it bringing in more DC in the late hours he streams. And AZ did not need the toxic trash talk (on the level that has gotten several people we both know banned) that some of your group members spout on your stream about people who have been subscribing to you since you started.
I (and many other people I play with) have a lot of respect for you and the people you play with. We like fighting your group because we know regardless of numbers (us outnumbering you or you outnumbering us) it will always be a good dynamic fight.
We all need to stop saying "my group" and start considering that said group is never isolated from the rest of it's faction.
My group is always smaller then AD or EPs.
ellahellabella wrote: »PenguinInACan wrote: »may he not hold the throne until probably like 0400 EST tomorrow morning.
He brought folks in from Haderus last night. Very tsunami and very much ow
Grouping with Krotha was 'bringing people in from Haderus'? Krotha, his friends and I went to Haderus that night to get speez emperor. We were able to. Then we went to Azura to PvP. Ended up getting emp as well.
But I brought a tsunami of blues in??? Cmon. You can even see pretty much every time I get crowned on stream. There is fighting, generally a very long one at BRK. Because I dont have other groups to help siege, and EP watches where my group goes, so theres no bursting it without them seeing.
So no, theres nobody 'night capping DC emp for free'. Maybe this happened in the past. I haven't woke up with emperor once this campaign.
Good fights and all, it really was. But I dont get some of those comments. Night capping, and bringing zergs from Haderus?
Our group is a lot smaller than EP or ADs. It gets really frustrating at times, when you are indeed rotating more remembrances than I have players in a group. This is generally what were up against.
kpittsniperb14_ESO wrote: »ellahellabella wrote: »PenguinInACan wrote: »may he not hold the throne until probably like 0400 EST tomorrow morning.
He brought folks in from Haderus last night. Very tsunami and very much ow
Grouping with Krotha was 'bringing people in from Haderus'? Krotha, his friends and I went to Haderus that night to get speez emperor. We were able to. Then we went to Azura to PvP. Ended up getting emp as well.
But I brought a tsunami of blues in??? Cmon. You can even see pretty much every time I get crowned on stream. There is fighting, generally a very long one at BRK. Because I dont have other groups to help siege, and EP watches where my group goes, so theres no bursting it without them seeing.
So no, theres nobody 'night capping DC emp for free'. Maybe this happened in the past. I haven't woke up with emperor once this campaign.
Good fights and all, it really was. But I dont get some of those comments. Night capping, and bringing zergs from Haderus?
Our group is a lot smaller than EP or ADs. It gets really frustrating at times, when you are indeed rotating more remembrances than I have players in a group. This is generally what were up against.
It doesn't matter how many are in your group Fengrush and you know this. The DC blob follows your "small man" around wherever you go and ,although you may not intend, your group surfs the DC zerg. Getting Emp consistently at 4:00 am est is night capping on this server period and has been done by DC on this campaign for many months now. DC knows what time TM logs off and the map gets pushed after. I don't even need to log into the game to know what the map looks like right now. I don't think at this point anyone even cares anymore that it is being done. The push back here is that folks act as though they are doing it against the odds with genuine resistance which is a farce. If you recall there was at least one time that you didn't realize you had emp because DC night capped and you were dethroned before you logged in.
I don't intend to disparage my faction here but AD simply doesn't have any organized guilds on the server aside from TM which runs small numbers generally from 8-12 despite claims of 20 healers and being a ball zerg. We fight zergs, always have, and are built to take a hit and punch back hard. ROB and IOTE are pug wranglers, put in work, try hard and have alot of heart but simply don't have the organization to make much happen. The vast majority of the time TM is out there making our own thing happen and not humping our faction zerg. No AD guilds from TF will play this campaign which is cool I suppose so I don't see this dynamic changing any time soon.
TM has been in a position numerous times to emp this cycle and has refused to do it despite our folks being the top 8 for AD. Emp is a terrible imbalance on this campaign for many reasons and it is much more balanced and fun when there is no emperor and we have stated as much many times.
Fengrush, you are a great player and your group is very skilled so much respect there. All I ask is that you get some perspective on what is happening. DC can't hold emperor or push the map during prime time with real competition. This is proven night after night. 4:00am EST crowning is the norm.
ellahellabella wrote: »I would like to place a motion on the floor:
'From now on in the server known as Azura's Star, the Templar ultimate 'Rememberance' Shall be renamed to 'Salt Ult'
usmcjdking wrote: »ellahellabella wrote: »I would like to place a motion on the floor:
'From now on in the server known as Azura's Star, the Templar ultimate 'Rememberance' Shall be renamed to 'Salt Ult'
The templar even shoots salt from his hands during the animation, salting every player that should by all accounts be just dead on my screen.
Logged on to see EMP with 15+ EPs zerging tri-keep against roughly 5 DC defenders. Is this supposed to be some sort of retaliation against Fengrush? If so, the only thing you're hurting are the solo players and pugs that play during late oceanic.
usmcjdking wrote: »kpittsniperb14_ESO wrote: »ellahellabella wrote: »PenguinInACan wrote: »may he not hold the throne until probably like 0400 EST tomorrow morning.
He brought folks in from Haderus last night. Very tsunami and very much ow
Grouping with Krotha was 'bringing people in from Haderus'? Krotha, his friends and I went to Haderus that night to get speez emperor. We were able to. Then we went to Azura to PvP. Ended up getting emp as well.
But I brought a tsunami of blues in??? Cmon. You can even see pretty much every time I get crowned on stream. There is fighting, generally a very long one at BRK. Because I dont have other groups to help siege, and EP watches where my group goes, so theres no bursting it without them seeing.
So no, theres nobody 'night capping DC emp for free'. Maybe this happened in the past. I haven't woke up with emperor once this campaign.
Good fights and all, it really was. But I dont get some of those comments. Night capping, and bringing zergs from Haderus?
Our group is a lot smaller than EP or ADs. It gets really frustrating at times, when you are indeed rotating more remembrances than I have players in a group. This is generally what were up against.
It doesn't matter how many are in your group Fengrush and you know this. The DC blob follows your "small man" around wherever you go and ,although you may not intend, your group surfs the DC zerg. Getting Emp consistently at 4:00 am est is night capping on this server period and has been done by DC on this campaign for many months now. DC knows what time TM logs off and the map gets pushed after. I don't even need to log into the game to know what the map looks like right now. I don't think at this point anyone even cares anymore that it is being done. The push back here is that folks act as though they are doing it against the odds with genuine resistance which is a farce. If you recall there was at least one time that you didn't realize you had emp because DC night capped and you were dethroned before you logged in.
I don't intend to disparage my faction here but AD simply doesn't have any organized guilds on the server aside from TM which runs small numbers generally from 8-12 despite claims of 20 healers and being a ball zerg. We fight zergs, always have, and are built to take a hit and punch back hard. ROB and IOTE are pug wranglers, put in work, try hard and have alot of heart but simply don't have the organization to make much happen. The vast majority of the time TM is out there making our own thing happen and not humping our faction zerg. No AD guilds from TF will play this campaign which is cool I suppose so I don't see this dynamic changing any time soon.
TM has been in a position numerous times to emp this cycle and has refused to do it despite our folks being the top 8 for AD. Emp is a terrible imbalance on this campaign for many reasons and it is much more balanced and fun when there is no emperor and we have stated as much many times.
Fengrush, you are a great player and your group is very skilled so much respect there. All I ask is that you get some perspective on what is happening. DC can't hold emperor or push the map during prime time with real competition. This is proven night after night. 4:00am EST crowning is the norm.
The sheer lack of remembrances in this post disappoints me.
Logged on to see EMP with 15+ EPs zerging tri-keep against roughly 5 DC defenders. Is this supposed to be some sort of retaliation against Fengrush? If so, the only thing you're hurting are the solo players and pugs that play during late oceanic.
Alishka_Gunter wrote: »As pointed out, that isn't a tri-keep. Second of all, there's 9 EP there, DC had 14 when they pushed us to the gates for our Scrolls.
EP isn't retaliating against fengrush. No matter how popular he is or how good of a player he is, he cannot solo the map, nor can he solo gate camp EP. DC are the ones capping the keeps at night, not fengrush. I've even sat in the DC zone chat listening to them brag about how they can do this just because. Don't look at EP as the perpetrators in this situation. We were contain with just open pvp, Scrolls staying with each faction and no emp but every second night DC has to cap.
That said, I do feel bad for you as I didn't see your name when those 14 DC decided to attack an undefeated EP.