jameslogan wrote: »Last campaign Betsy literally did nothing while EP attacked a fort because of they were her/his friends. And last night, she got mad because a random group was attacking AD instead of trying to dethrone and decided to call all of DC idiots and cowards for not playing the way she wants. Yeah, its annoying to not have everyone on the same page, but its even more annoying having an EP person in our zone chat calling us names. If Betsy wants to be that way, he/she should stay on their EP alt
Lol what? We went over this in zone chat yesterday, remember? 15 DC attacked Rayles while Dubzug was the only person defending it, and while it's true that I don't attack my friends, I also don't jump in on 15v1s. Your story has changed a little, since yesterday.
And you are right, I did call people cowards yesterday. AD was pushing EP-owned BRK, and instead of DC pushing Chalman for the dethrone, a 24-man raid of DC went to pvdoor Nikel and Brindle (AD home keep) instead of dethroning. Thanks to those people, we had AD heat (rightfully so) for the remainder of the day. So yes, I did call those people cowards. I also thanked everyone who went to Chalman repeatedly, dropped siege, set up camps, etc. while the rest of their faction was off pvdooring empty keeps.
Anything else you want to talk about out in the open?
ellahellabella wrote: »Glad to see Betsy here really. Let's see them try to trash talk her now.
I bet you 3 home baked cookies that they run scurrying back to the dark!
jameslogan wrote: »Last campaign Betsy literally did nothing while EP attacked a fort because of they were her/his friends. And last night, she got mad because a random group was attacking AD instead of trying to dethrone and decided to call all of DC idiots and cowards for not playing the way she wants. Yeah, its annoying to not have everyone on the same page, but its even more annoying having an EP person in our zone chat calling us names. If Betsy wants to be that way, he/she should stay on their EP alt
Lol what? We went over this in zone chat yesterday, remember? 15 DC attacked Rayles while Dubzug was the only person defending it, and while it's true that I don't attack my friends, I also don't jump in on 15v1s. Your story has changed a little, since yesterday.
And you are right, I did call people cowards yesterday. AD was pushing EP-owned BRK, and instead of DC pushing Chalman for the dethrone, a 24-man raid of DC went to pvdoor Nikel and Brindle (AD home keep) instead of dethroning. Thanks to those people, we had AD heat (rightfully so) for the remainder of the day. So yes, I did call those people cowards. I also thanked everyone who went to Chalman repeatedly, dropped siege, set up camps, etc. while the rest of their faction was off pvdooring empty keeps.
Anything else you want to talk about out in the open?
I almost forgot that when I was online during prime-time for the last 2 Thursdays that... DC crowned an Emperor on both..
I almost forgot that any day that I am online, DC seemingly controls the most keeps during prime-time...
...and continues to own the most until EP or AD begins a night-cap routine.
I almost forgot that people got mad at Legion of Death Gaming for zerging during prime-time because we kept taking their keeps and they claimed we had an unfair advantage (having more people).
I almost forgot that a glorified pug wrangler like myself grabbed so much attention because I kept taking keeps....
Almost.. but didn't.
I look forward to returning in the next few days and bringing the Oceanic branch of the guild fully back to Azura's Star! I am aiming to become the Commander of the Daggerfall Covenant in Azura's Star and aspire to show the opposition the full might of our faction! For the Daggerfall Covenant!
@Zapfino the conversation at Nickel was classic! lol
Great fight! (You have to admit, that AD did quite well holding off the assault for as long as we did!). 3 separate assaults/defenses. Haven't seen that for a while. Made me glad that I jumped into AS for a night.
I swear... you and your "coldfire bolts of love." LOL
Yeah, yeah.... I heard AD zone salt about the EP Zerg of 50+ taking Nic, but we've done it, too, in times past. I just loved a great fight. Well done.
( @Alishka_Gunter I didn't see your ass there. wth? lol )
@Chuga_Rei you would have sooooo loved that fight!
Cheers,
usmcjdking wrote: »usmcjdking wrote: »usmcjdking wrote: »I read through the entire thread because I have no life... and its kinda ironic to see it go from DC and EP complaining about AD zerging at the beginning to AD and EP frustrated that DC was zerging and now people on DC and AD are fretting about EP. I think we should all just realize the futility of the situation and all be friends and enjoy our competition
That's the thing though, for like almost 2 months solid before this thread was even posted DC had Emp pretty constantly in the form Gruffy and Filthy (and briefly a Sorc who's name I cannot remember).
Then 2 weeks into the campaign cycle I got Emp'd. A few days later the OP comes in and starts bitching really hard about AD even though by that time it was mathematically impossible for us to win the campaign and over the course of the last 2 weeks I got dethroned about 6 times (so there was competition, but DC still won the campaign by a large margin (10k point spreads were not uncommon in AS back in the day)). Yeah, I defended a gate keep for a few hours, but I'd only ever witnessed a blue-washed AS, so it took me a while to figure out the courtesies an Emp should show.
Obviously I'm hella biased, but the complaints against AD at the time of the OP were so unjustified. AS was a lot smaller community back in those days, we even use to leave gate keeps unrepaired when going for scrolls. I also recall a time when EP had 0 keeps, so I took my PuG (I use to run PuG's before the load screen bug) up to Farra, we sieged down the walls, killed all the NPCs and then left so the literally 2 EP that were online could cap a keep. In the off hours when I was online as Emp, instead of rolling the map, I use to take off my armour and DC and AD (again, virtually no EP online) would duel for hours up at Glademist, some people got their Emp slayer achievement from my nakedness, others still couldn't kill me XD.
So yeah, the OP switching guilds to EP was a good call and it did revitalize AS. However his hate against AD was completely uncalled for. He would go on long rants about campaign balance and fairness (I should look for the screenshots), but in the next sentence he would say "AD will never win a campaign for as long as I play", which is nothing to do with balance, but a childish vendetta.
Sorry for the rant, but this thread was created in response to the losing side of the campaign getting Emp, even when we could not win we were somehow the ones ruining the campaign.
Firstly, this is the second AS thread since the CP removal.
Secondly, This is historically inaccurate and missing information as well as slandering the OP due to the lack of knowledge of the campaign history.
Lastly, AD gate camped for 3 months straight. And I don't mean pushed to the gates, I mean no one could leave the gates at any point in the day. Lextor was emp for what? Like 23 days or something along those lines?
What is inaccurate? For the time period I covered in my post I have a high level on confidence in what I said. Lextor is a name I remember but was before my time in PvP.
Faction x doing something so faction y doing it back is no excuse. I feel for the players who had to deal with Lextor, but that doesn't justify doing it back (which is why when I was Emp I kept myself and AD (when they listened) off gate keeps (apart from the first few hours)). In the timeline I covered in my post AD was fighting back, but we still came no where near close to winning that campaign, or the one after it. So I stand by my statement that the OP was in fact whinging unnecessarily.
I did not mention DC's domination at the start to justify gate camping, just some context to me not knowing how to behave as Emp. I honestly have no clue why Lextor's AD gate camping and DC's gate camping have anything to do with what I covered in my post.
I'm willing to take your word on Lextor's time, but I don't see the relevance to what I said or make it historically inaccurate.
I made no mention of my views on factions alternating gate camping so I'm not sure why that is a point in contention here.
You were slandering bitaken with literally no context of what he was talking about which is the crux of my post. Everything you gave in your timeline is well after this thread's inception.
Whether it was an honest mistake or not doesn't really matter. You threw OP under the bus for a completely unjustifiable reason that isn't even true to begin with.
He made this thread like 3 days after I got Emp the first time, my post covered the time I was Emp (about 2 weeks at the end of a campaign), I don't know what context I am missing? He made this post as a direct consequence of AD getting and kind of holding Emp, EP had no population for as long as I can remember, so it cannot be because of the faction switch. I don't know what else could have been the catalyst.
Azura's Flipped to No CP in early March of 2016.
It was then a whitewash of AD domination until June of 2016. Both DC and EP had low pop bonuses and couldn't even break 5 digits on scoring until the May timeframe. This is what OP is referencing and you are missing. IIRC you entered shortly before Lextor & Crew left Azura's in what I believe was late May or early June. AD still vastly outnumbered other factions, but didn't have the 24 hour stranglehold thereafter as some EP started showing up.
@Alishka_Gunter is the only other player that comes to mind that was there during this timeframe, potentially @jameslogan .
jameslogan wrote: »Last campaign Betsy literally did nothing while EP attacked a fort because of they were her/his friends. And last night, she got mad because a random group was attacking AD instead of trying to dethrone and decided to call all of DC idiots and cowards for not playing the way she wants. Yeah, its annoying to not have everyone on the same page, but its even more annoying having an EP person in our zone chat calling us names. If Betsy wants to be that way, he/she should stay on their EP alt
Lol what? We went over this in zone chat yesterday, remember? 15 DC attacked Rayles while Dubzug was the only person defending it, and while it's true that I don't attack my friends, I also don't jump in on 15v1s. Your story has changed a little, since yesterday.
And you are right, I did call people cowards yesterday. AD was pushing EP-owned BRK, and instead of DC pushing Chalman for the dethrone, a 24-man raid of DC went to pvdoor Nikel and Brindle (AD home keep) instead of dethroning. Thanks to those people, we had AD heat (rightfully so) for the remainder of the day. So yes, I did call those people cowards. I also thanked everyone who went to Chalman repeatedly, dropped siege, set up camps, etc. while the rest of their faction was off pvdooring empty keeps.
Anything else you want to talk about out in the open?
I am delighted to see you here but why you even bother?
We all know that LoDG is known for telling fairy tales instead of actually impressing with PvP.
Even though I must admitt it did only take 3 of them to kill me a few days ago but one of them was a potato emp....soooo yeah...
It only takes one Queen Betsy to kill me.
ellahellabella wrote: »I feel like TRIGGERING!...I almost forgot that when I was online during prime-time for the last 2 Thursdays that... DC crowned an Emperor on both..
I almost forgot that any day that I am online, DC seemingly controls the most keeps during prime-time...
...and continues to own the most until EP or AD begins a night-cap routine.
I almost forgot that people got mad at Legion of Death Gaming for zerging during prime-time because we kept taking their keeps and they claimed we had an unfair advantage (having more people).
I almost forgot that a glorified pug wrangler like myself grabbed so much attention because I kept taking keeps....
Almost.. but didn't.
And I almost forgot that an AP resource fed guild leader like yourself only held his emperorship for 46 mins! No wait I lied! None of us AZ regulars will EVER let you forget that...I look forward to returning in the next few days and bringing the Oceanic branch of the guild fully back to Azura's Star! I am aiming to become the Commander of the Daggerfall Covenant in Azura's Star and aspire to show the opposition the full might of our faction! For the Daggerfall Covenant!
So essentially, you can't handle EP potatoes pvdooring DC so you're going to organise your organised guild's Oceanic branch to pvdoor a near empty server yourselves? Well if you're going to ignore proper pvp to increase your score, no wonder your guild has become such a laughing stock on this server!
It only takes a few DC to stop a pvdoor but you're going to rehome your entire OC guild populace? LOL! #Potatoesgonnapotatoe
How about you do what I did and realise that the main OC populace of AZ has relocated to Trueflame and you follow them there? Or does that make too much sense?
My head hurts with logic...
Brb Changing my toon race to Vulcan...
As far as the reputation of my guild goes in a previous post: LoDG will have bad reputation whether I speak or not. Why? People were bashing LoDG on the Forums before I became an active Forum Poster, infact my #1 fan was bashing LoDG in Zone Chat without realizing that a member was there to watch it unfold.
Alishka_Gunter wrote: »
As far as the reputation of my guild goes in a previous post: LoDG will have bad reputation whether I speak or not. Why? People were bashing LoDG on the Forums before I became an active Forum Poster, infact my #1 fan was bashing LoDG in Zone Chat without realizing that a member was there to watch it unfold.
No one had any clue who you or LODG was UNTIL you came on the forums gloating about AZ being your stomping grounds. After that, the gloves were off.
Secondly WTF is up with all the liberal digs? I'm hardcore conservative (92% conservative, 8% communist lol) but the whole liberal comments have no place here man. Defend yourself and your guild but leave political views out of it.
@Vurian97 at least you see logic when it waves into your face, so maybe it's not that hopeless after all!!!
And about that situation...I am always astonished how narrow minded your view is when it comes to see other players your faction...I recall Jabs and me being there. And only us. While you had at least 5 DC people there.
We can also talk about the fact that EP had NOTHING that day. We had KC and Farra, no scrolls. EP was at one bar, DC at 2. Not even talking about AD. So jabs and me took sej alone and when we were done you guys showed up, and 5 min later the whole DC faction.
So let me tell you one thing....gate camping sucks. PvDooring sucks. It is not to be justified for any faction. The only reason people do it to DC is YOU. Your big mouth on the forums telling how good you are and how dominating you are. You are the reason we came up with new word creations...like tactical Vurian, meaning running from 3 enemies when having 12 in group to set up siege. Or Plebrian....meaning to run non functional builds. But hey...everybody can play how they want to. I am just tired of you thinking you are better than everyone else. You are not. Not even by far.
I will not have you talk crap about my friends. And you really shouldn't tell snowman he needs to learn to play. That is almost blasphemy.
We going to have our 3vs3 soon and then we will see. I hope you are a man of your words and don't back out.
PS: Keep spelling mistakes if you find any.
Alishka_Gunter wrote: »@Vurian97 at least you see logic when it waves into your face, so maybe it's not that hopeless after all!!!
And about that situation...I am always astonished how narrow minded your view is when it comes to see other players your faction...I recall Jabs and me being there. And only us. While you had at least 5 DC people there.
We can also talk about the fact that EP had NOTHING that day. We had KC and Farra, no scrolls. EP was at one bar, DC at 2. Not even talking about AD. So jabs and me took sej alone and when we were done you guys showed up, and 5 min later the whole DC faction.
So let me tell you one thing....gate camping sucks. PvDooring sucks. It is not to be justified for any faction. The only reason people do it to DC is YOU. Your big mouth on the forums telling how good you are and how dominating you are. You are the reason we came up with new word creations...like tactical Vurian, meaning running from 3 enemies when having 12 in group to set up siege. Or Plebrian....meaning to run non functional builds. But hey...everybody can play how they want to. I am just tired of you thinking you are better than everyone else. You are not. Not even by far.
I will not have you talk crap about my friends. And you really shouldn't tell snowman he needs to learn to play. That is almost blasphemy.
We going to have our 3vs3 soon and then we will see. I hope you are a man of your words and don't back out.
PS: Keep spelling mistakes if you find any.
Humphie, I have to disagree with you on one point ....
PvDooring didn't suck during the double AP gain week Otherwise, spot on!
@Vurian97 at least you see logic when it waves into your face, so maybe it's not that hopeless after all!!!
And about that situation...I am always astonished how narrow minded your view is when it comes to see other players your faction...I recall Jabs and me being there. And only us. While you had at least 5 DC people there.
We can also talk about the fact that EP had NOTHING that day. We had KC and Farra, no scrolls. EP was at one bar, DC at 2. Not even talking about AD. So jabs and me took sej alone and when we were done you guys showed up, and 5 min later the whole DC faction.
So let me tell you one thing....gate camping sucks. PvDooring sucks. It is not to be justified for any faction. The only reason people do it to DC is YOU. Your big mouth on the forums telling how good you are and how dominating you are. You are the reason we came up with new word creations...like tactical Vurian, meaning running from 3 enemies when having 12 in group to set up siege. Or Plebrian....meaning to run non functional builds. But hey...everybody can play how they want to. I am just tired of you thinking you are better than everyone else. You are not. Not even by far.
I will not have you talk crap about my friends. And you really shouldn't tell snowman he needs to learn to play. That is almost blasphemy.
We going to have our 3vs3 soon and then we will see. I hope you are a man of your words and don't back out.
PS: Keep spelling mistakes if you find any.
It is actually pretty embarrassing knowing who you guys are.
That will stop from now on.
jameslogan wrote: »I did call people cowards yesterday. open?
Alishka_Gunter wrote: »As much as it pains me to say, Joshlenoir comes to mind as a very difficult NB to face. His sustain is through the roof (gogo troll king and Ogden or whatever it is called) or Betsy. Both of whom I generally cannot beat 1v1. Sure, I've done it but they both will crush me 90% of the time I engage them. Knowing this, why would I intentionally sacrifice myself and give them AP? Am I a coward? Hardly. But I see no point in donating AP to the enemy or stroking Joshlenoir's ego. It's a game,
Betsy/James/Gender confused, I already told you how I felt, you spy for your EP buddies and bad mouth D.C. in zone chat, that's the end of that.
As for how to play the game, playing ring around the rosie while you charge your ult up must be the right way to play? Lemme read that guide before I log back in. This is a large scale pvp game with siege weapons, everyone will play different
Betsy/James/Gender confused, I already told you how I felt, you spy for your EP buddies and bad mouth D.C. in zone chat, that's the end of that.
As for how to play the game, playing ring around the rosie while you charge your ult up must be the right way to play? Lemme read that guide before I log back in. This is a large scale pvp game with siege weapons, everyone will play different
Can confirm Betsy is EP spy, here's a picture of us directing the EP zerg in a backcap against DC. We also purposely got incased and destro ultied to keep up our pretense of being loyal to the Daggerfall Covenant.