Do you feel bad for the players that can no longer play ESO because of DX11?

Volkodav

yes

Over9KThespian wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

I was really excited for running dungeons with my friend of another alliance, but he just told me he can't run the 64bit exe

And before people go "upgrade, it is so cheap, yadda yadda". It may be cheap for you, but it certainly isn't cheap for everybody. Third world country with broken economy here. Electronics cost up to four times what you guys in Europe and North America pay for them.

If he can't run the 64bit he can still run the 32bit.....Yadda yadda....

If its so easy,do tell us how to run the 32 bit?

Wojownik303

yes

Im the victim of forcing DX11. With my GT220 i still can play with 40FPS, now i can't.
And i just buyed this game 2 months ago...

Preyfar

yes

I feel bad because unless those players were active on the forums how would they know? I didn't see any emails or notices of this change coming, and how to tell if you're prepared for it.

phairdon

yes

Volkodav wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

I was really excited for running dungeons with my friend of another alliance, but he just told me he can't run the 64bit exe

And before people go "upgrade, it is so cheap, yadda yadda". It may be cheap for you, but it certainly isn't cheap for everybody. Third world country with broken economy here. Electronics cost up to four times what you guys in Europe and North America pay for them.

Why not just run the 32 bit client then?

Can you tell me how to run the 32 bit? I'll be happy with that till I can get a new card.

Just launch from the desktop icon, it leads to the 32bit, same as before.

sadownik

yes

Volkodav wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

I was really excited for running dungeons with my friend of another alliance, but he just told me he can't run the 64bit exe

And before people go "upgrade, it is so cheap, yadda yadda". It may be cheap for you, but it certainly isn't cheap for everybody. Third world country with broken economy here. Electronics cost up to four times what you guys in Europe and North America pay for them.

Why not just run the 32 bit client then?

Can you tell me how to run the 32 bit? I'll be happy with that till I can get a new card.

No use mate - it will still be dx 11. It doesnt matter 32 or 64 bits

Atreyix

no

With the increasing demands of PC gaming, even the smallest upgrades are required.

Meanma

Volkodav wrote: »

If its so easy,do tell us how to run the 32 bit?

The launcher opens the 32bit client by default. If your issue is with your card not supporting DX11 then 32bit won't solve that, sadly.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

no

Right ya the DX issue and the 64 bit exe not running are separate issues. Neither the 32 bit nor the 64 bit versions of the client will run without dx11 now.

Duiwel

no

I assume given this thread that I will not be able to play ESO because I run a Geforce 660TI PE, I bought my pc ( picked every single part in it ) back in Feb 2013 and back then my GPU was the bottleneck.

I knew it when I bought it, so do I care? Not really, could it have come at a better time? Definitely...

I am waiting for the 1000 series...

So I might have to play on very bad graphics for a few months...

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

no

Duiwel wrote: »

I assume given this thread that I will not be able to play ESO because I run a Geforce 660TI PE, I bought my pc ( picked every single part in it ) back in Feb 2013 and back then my GPU was the bottleneck.

I knew it when I bought it, so do I care? Not really, could it have come at a better time? Definitely...

I am waiting for the 1000 series...

So I might have to play on very bad graphics for a few months...

660ti pe is a dx11 compatible card. You should have no issues running the game.

TequilaFire

Many games have built-in fallback support for DirectX 9 and 10. When the API detects that you don't have a DirectX 11 card, it will fall back to another set of actions that DirectX 9 or 10 can support. This is something the developer has to put in by themselves - it doesn't happen automatically. Games built with a focus on DirectX 11 will not be able to play on video cards without DirectX 11 support unless the developer manually adds support for DirectX 9 which ZOS could have done.
I guess they didn't feel they wanted the extra code overhead.

Reznique

no

Just over 2016 years passed after Jesus,

Time to stop using a Nokia to play games

TequilaFire

OLIVI3R wrote: »

Just over 2016 years passed after Jesus,

Time to stop using a Nokia to play games

My N95 was a great phone! lol

Robbmrp

no

There are cheap video cards out there that are DX 11 compatible so there are options for people. With PC gaming there are updates constantly to games that come out as well as new games being released. You need to keep updating your system as you can so you don't have issues and can play anything you want. If it's a money thing, people can always find a way to get the money. Maybe sell something they aren't using anymore. Get a part time job or something. These video cards are less than $200 and that's what, maybe 2 weeks worth of part time work.

If you don't want to have to deal with PC updating, switch to consoles.

KhajitFurTrader

no

TequilaFire wrote: »

I guess they didn't feel they wanted the extra code overhead.

DX12 support is on their roadmap, so they need to make the necessary preparations. The prospect of maintaining three dedicated rendering paths is a nightmare to every programmer. The code revisions that were necessary anyway to go 64-bit warranted a removal of the oldest one of them at low additional man-hour costs, so this was an opportune moment to do it.

cazlonb16_ESO

JD2013 wrote: »

I do feel very sorry for them.

However, technology changes and upgrades. PC gaming requires hardware upgrades every couple of years. It can be an expensive hobby.

If you have realistic expectations and don't need a screen the size of a wall that is not really the case anymore. CPUs have been close to a standstill for years now, so no use in upgrading and all you need is a new gfx card at 200-300 bucks every three years or so.

pmn100b16_ESO

It must be a fairly small amount of players affected for ZoS to actually go ahead with it.

TequilaFire

KhajitFurTrader wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

I guess they didn't feel they wanted the extra code overhead.

DX12 support is on their roadmap, so they need to make the necessary preparations. The prospect of maintaining three dedicated rendering paths is a nightmare to every programmer. The code revisions that were necessary anyway to go 64-bit warranted a removal of the oldest one of them at low additional man-hour costs, so this was an opportune moment to do it.

Of course that makes sense, just rough in an existing game where some find $200 hard to come by.
Luckily my old 7970 runs it just fine, but I spend much of my time on PS4 for social reasons.

Dhukath

yes

Yes, a new graphics card is not something everyone can afford, no matter how long they've known this was coming.
However there are other options
Run dx11 games on dx10 graphics card

Rylana

Vicodine wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Well I have the feeling they will be forced to return the dx9 and dx10 capability. Because I bet 90% of players have those types of dx and don't have the software to support dx11.

False.
ZoS must have a hardware survey from every player playing the game. It's most likely part of the analytics. At the very least, they know who plays OpenGL, who DirectX 9 and who DirectX 11.
It's most likely the other way around, 90%+ have DX11 capable card.

Highly unlikely. You need a little know-how to know the difference between a truly compliant card and a compatible one.

You keep espousing Fermi.but the shader rendering on Fermi still used backwards compatible 10.1 codecs. Kepler had a problem with CUDA instruction cycles outside of 10.1 environments. it wasnt until Maxwell (the current generation) that Nvidia finally reached FULL DX 11 compliance for all functions (with the 11.2 update in Oct 2013, with the release of win 8.1)

So those older cards? Yeah maybe they can get by, but unless youre rocking a maxwell you have no guarantees, and none of those are under 300 bucks right now. (second gens, you might find a first gen for 180ish if you use ebay, thats still a hell of an expense)

Uber_Lord

yes

Anyone tried forcing OpenGl through usersettings.txt ?
Wonder if it requires OpenGl 4.1?

MercyKilling

no

Khaos_Bane wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Sort of. I understand their concern, especially if they haven't seen the announcements that were made in advance. However, I fully support the decision to enhance the game as it evolves and the box does make it clear that "system requirements are subject to change over time". I cannot believe that there are PC gamers who don't understand that and accept it.

Console gamers are claiming that it's an advantage to play on console because the hardware and inbuilt software are fixed and they're not therefore susceptible to these issues, but the advantage that PC gamers have is that they can upgrade the individual components piecemeal without having to ditch the whole machine in order to get the next one, and moreover they can benefit from enhancements to the game through doing so.

Not to mention PCs provide much superior quality and functionality.

Not to mention PC's actually...you know....MAKE console games.

Thevampirenight

yes

At least the game works for me just fine.

Own

no

Gothlander wrote: »

This just isn't right. How can ZOS do this to those who have been playing ESO with DX10/DX9 video cards?

no..peasants

Parasaurolophus

yes

Dhukath wrote: »

Yes, a new graphics card is not something everyone can afford, no matter how long they've known this was coming.
However there are other options
Run dx11 games on dx10 graphics card

Ow. Its realy working? Who tested it?

KingYogi415

no

My 5 year old 300$ laptop has direct X11.

I would never even consider playing ESO it either.

How can a MMO PC player not have direct X11?

Parasaurolophus

yes

Maybe worth to arrange a vote - who can no longer play in the eso on the old video card ?

syandell17

I am crashing literally every 5 minutes no fail. Tried so many times. My computer stats are...

MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012)
Processor 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Graphics Intel HD Graphics 4000 1536 MB

Is my computer crashing because of the 64 bit

JD2013

yes

syandell17 wrote: »

I am crashing literally every 5 minutes no fail. Tried so many times. My computer stats are...

MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012)
Processor 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Graphics Intel HD Graphics 4000 1536 MB

Is my computer crashing because of the 64 bit

I think the game recommends more than 4GB now, irrespective of 64 bit client or not. And DX11 compatible graphics cards.

So yes I think it may be.

Hand_Bacon

no

No, I'm feeling fine actually. Thanks for asking.

Why should I feel bad? I'm not doing anything to them.

Do you feel bad eating 4 pizzas while some family in Somalia starves? You should, eating four pizzas would be painful on anyone's stomach.