Do you feel bad for the players that can no longer play ESO because of DX11?

Lyrebon

no

JD2013 wrote: »

I do feel very sorry for them.

However, technology changes and upgrades. PC gaming requires hardware upgrades every couple of years. It can be an expensive hobby.

As opposed to shelling out £300-450 for a console every few years just to play newer games? With a PC you at least have the security of knowing that future games will be compatible on your system for years to come, and when you do need to upgrade your graphics you're looking at £100-150. The majority of cards are able to handle multiple generations of DirectX so you might not even need new a card for several years. DX11 is 7 years old, giving your average gamer plenty of time to upgrade, but that also means someone who bought a DX11 compatible card when it was fairly new has experienced over half-a-decade of support with games now just switching to DX11 as mandatory, which means there'll be several more years before DX12 becomes the new standard.

Volkodav

yes

Dhukath wrote: »

Yes, a new graphics card is not something everyone can afford, no matter how long they've known this was coming.
However there are other options
Run dx11 games on dx10 graphics card

Link didnt work.

Volkodav

yes

Dhukath wrote: »

Yes, a new graphics card is not something everyone can afford, no matter how long they've known this was coming.
However there are other options
Run dx11 games on dx10 graphics card

Link didnt work.

syandell17

JD2013 wrote: »

syandell17 wrote: »

I am crashing literally every 5 minutes no fail. Tried so many times. My computer stats are...

MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012)
Processor 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Graphics Intel HD Graphics 4000 1536 MB

Is my computer crashing because of the 64 bit

I think the game recommends more than 4GB now, irrespective of 64 bit client or not. And DX11 compatible graphics cards.

So yes I think it may be.

Goddamit I've been playing the game for like 2 years and this is how they treat me... I know I need a new computer but I can't try all of the new stuff. that makes me mad!

Parasaurolophus

yes

Volkodav wrote: »

Dhukath wrote: »

Yes, a new graphics card is not something everyone can afford, no matter how long they've known this was coming.
However there are other options
Run dx11 games on dx10 graphics card

Link didnt work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-qsPyZfAJw

Lyrebon

no

syandell17 wrote: »

Goddamit I've been playing the game for like 2 years and this is how they treat me... I know I need a new computer but I can't try all of the new stuff. that makes me mad!

They can't appease everyone but they can't remain at a technological barrier forever when there's better technology out there.

JD2013

yes

Lyrebon wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

I do feel very sorry for them.

However, technology changes and upgrades. PC gaming requires hardware upgrades every couple of years. It can be an expensive hobby.

As opposed to shelling out £300-450 for a console every few years just to play newer games? With a PC you at least have the security of knowing that future games will be compatible on your system for years to come, and when you do need to upgrade your graphics you're looking at £100-150. The majority of cards are able to handle multiple generations of DirectX so you might not even need new a card for several years. DX11 is 7 years old, giving your average gamer plenty of time to upgrade, but that also means someone who bought a DX11 compatible card when it was fairly new has experienced over half-a-decade of support with games now just switching to DX11 as mandatory, which means there'll be several more years before DX12 becomes the new standard.

Hey I wasn't arguing. I would rather pay for new graphics cards than consoles. I'm getting a new one this weds in fact. And I'm also aware that DX11 has been out a long while, and they made people aware a good while ago.

But it's one of those things. If some can't afford it, they can't afford it. Never a nice thing.

syandell17

Lyrebon wrote: »

syandell17 wrote: »

Goddamit I've been playing the game for like 2 years and this is how they treat me... I know I need a new computer but I can't try all of the new stuff. that makes me mad!

They can't appease everyone but they can't remain at a technological barrier forever when there's better technology out there.

yeah i guess that makes sense.

Lyrebon

no

JD2013 wrote: »

Hey I wasn't arguing. I would rather pay for new graphics cards than consoles. I'm getting a new one this weds in fact. And I'm also aware that DX11 has been out a long while, and they made people aware a good while ago.

But it's one of those things. If some can't afford it, they can't afford it. Never a nice thing.

Yeah that's pretty bad but it's only like not being able to afford a new console. The only difference is that you'll still receive games compatible with DX10 even though some have made DX11 mandatory. It might be unfortunate that you have to give up a game you've played for so long until you can afford a new card, but you still have options unlike console development.

Lysette

no

I would have said "yes" if DX11 cards would still be expensive, but this is meanwhile no longer the case. Everyone using a PC on a regular basis should save some money to maintain or replace the hardware - this is just common sense to do that, every machine will break sooner or later. This is predictable and can be planned to the most part - so, I am not sorry for them.

syandell17

Lysette wrote: »

I would have said "yes" if DX11 cards would still be expensive, but this is meanwhile no longer the case. Everyone using a PC on a regular basis should save some money to maintain or replace the hardware - this is just common sense to do that, every machine will break sooner or later. This is predictable and can be planned to the most part - so, I am not sorry for them.

Yeah but not everyone has a PC.

Lysette

no

syandell17 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

I would have said "yes" if DX11 cards would still be expensive, but this is meanwhile no longer the case. Everyone using a PC on a regular basis should save some money to maintain or replace the hardware - this is just common sense to do that, every machine will break sooner or later. This is predictable and can be planned to the most part - so, I am not sorry for them.

Yeah but not everyone has a PC.

I am sorry, I have no clue about consoles, never used one, never will - so I don't know what specifications those have. But let me say this, if they have to buy a new console due to that, then I am sorry for them.

c.p.garrett1993_ESO

no

I'm out of the loop, just coming back after a several months, but I'm guessing DX11 is a requirement now. I may as well be feeling bad for people on PS3 or 360, gotta' keep with the times. It's not like DX11 requires an expensive card either, so I hardly see the problem.

DaveMoeDee

no

KingYogi415 wrote: »

My 5 year old 300$ laptop has direct X11.

I would never even consider playing ESO it either.

How can a MMO PC player not have direct X11?

A lot of us are no "MMO" players.

Still, I have a GTX970. But I don't do MMOs. I do ESO.

Reevster

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

My 5 year old 300$ laptop has direct X11.

I would never even consider playing ESO it either.

How can a MMO PC player not have direct X11?

A lot of us are no "MMO" players.

Still, I have a GTX970. But I don't do MMOs. I do ESO.

You do now, ESO is a MMO.

Lysette

no

Reevster wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

My 5 year old 300$ laptop has direct X11.

I would never even consider playing ESO it either.

How can a MMO PC player not have direct X11?

A lot of us are no "MMO" players.

Still, I have a GTX970. But I don't do MMOs. I do ESO.

You do now, ESO is a MMO.

Not really, seen from what Mr. Firor lately said in an interview - he called it an expanding online Elder Scrolls RPG.

Edit - this is the quote

Our bigger challenge has been to educate players that we are not a traditional 2004-style MMO and much more an expansive online Elder Scrolls RPG.

nine9six

no

TequilaFire wrote: »

OLIVI3R wrote: »

Just over 2016 years passed after Jesus,

Time to stop using a Nokia to play games

My N95 was a great phone! lol

My 5110 was great! Rock-solid construction. And it had Snake! Oh, the wasted hours in class...

aander91

Sure, but god is the performance better. Literally more than doubled my FPS. Running this game in 4k is smooth as butter.

Bossdonut

yes

XP for life.

Reevster

Lysette wrote: »

Reevster wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

My 5 year old 300$ laptop has direct X11.

I would never even consider playing ESO it either.

How can a MMO PC player not have direct X11?

A lot of us are no "MMO" players.

Still, I have a GTX970. But I don't do MMOs. I do ESO.

You do now, ESO is a MMO.

Not really, seen from what Mr. Firor lately said in an interview - he called it an expanding online Elder Scrolls RPG.

Edit - this is the quote

Our bigger challenge has been to educate players that we are not a traditional 2004-style MMO and much more an expansive online Elder Scrolls RPG.

Hmmm funny, they won the 2015 MMO of the year award, granted its not the old type of MMO but I don't think they exist anymore anyways.

crislevin

no

Dx 11 has been out for ages.

On the other hand, why is this dx11 version has such bad fps?

Lyrebon

no

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

A lot of us are no "MMO" players.

Still, I have a GTX970. But I don't do MMOs. I do ESO.

If you don't do MMOs why did you buy ESO? It contradicts what you're saying. If you don't play MMOs except for ESO, that would have been more accurate to say.

Still, people purchased a game either knowing full well what it was and what MMOs (and PC games in general) are like, or they didn't research it and you are excusing those who blame a developer for their ignorance.

Lysette wrote: »

Not really, seen from what Mr. Firor lately said in an interview - he called it an expanding online Elder Scrolls RPG.

Edit - this is the quote

Our bigger challenge has been to educate players that we are not a traditional 2004-style MMO and much more an expansive online Elder Scrolls RPG.

That doesn't mean it's not an MMO, it's just different to the MMOs released in the 00s era. The main difference are the combat systems moving away from casting time to action dynamics, but at its core ESO is still an MMO.

An MMO is defined as a game that supports numerous players simultaneously in the same instance, which is what ESO does. Firor's comment was not claiming that ESO isn't an MMO, just not one in the same vain as those traditional 2004-style MMOs.

Lenikus

yes

But only because i'm one, and i'm too cheap to buy a new vidcard.... i can probably see if i can blackmail talk to my dad or something >.>'

Kublakan

Well, there is chess.

Artjuh90

no

buy a console never bs like this for having the wrong server software poor linux users.
and if you don't some people won't have a leg to stand on when they call out the PC masta race :P

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

no

When he says 2004 mmo why do you think he picked 2004 of all years? Think about it.

Eshelmen

no

If they can't afford the equipment to play the game, they should focus on being able to afford it and not cry about it.

Ampnode

no

It's best they don't play it at all anyways Save them the rage.

b92303008rwb17_ESO

I don't really understand the technological change here. Is ESO now absolutely unplayable on DX9/10 system or is there some kind of alternative that can still make it possible?

TheBrownWiener

no

I also feel sorry for people who want to use a horse as there main source of real life transportation.