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I can't do it... I can't level anymore. Please remove the Veteran Ranks now instead of waiting.

  • bg22
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    Honestly, I feel like it only takes a long time if you care about following the story and all the extra stuff. I'm sure it's significantly faster if you're skipping over all the dialogue and only doing the quests that provide skyshards and not collecting mats and not doing writs and not hitting your daily fencing cap, etc. It's still not a two casual nights of play sort of thing, but you really shouldn't feel like 30 seconds of PvE is too much. How on Earth did you get to VR1 to begin with? Why do you even play RPGs?

    I take it you just read the first sentence of stuff then make your statements?

    Runnin our own original faction is all well and good. Hell, I even listened to EVERY single quest be spoken by the NPC's. But as I have no interest in helping the other factions, I now don't care to listen or read. So, it turns into click click click, go kill a few npcs, return, click click click. rinse and repeat for 100 more levels of content for a SECOND time, I'll pass.

    Again, all vet levels are, is a gap creating feature in the game. If ppl want to play the other factions then make another toon. That's not a big deal. The general populous wants to play there factions story line, then be competitive in pvp and be able to raid for end game gear and the general fun of end game group dungeons.

    How do I play RPG's? I do just that, play it as a RPG. Not a "be loyal and defend my faction, then be a traitor and defend the other factions. It's simply bullcrap that ppl have to do that. It then become something other than a RPG, but rather a forced to do stuff i don't want to be a part of just to make it to end game content and competitive pvp.
    Edited by bg22 on April 3, 2015 7:03PM
  • eventide03b14a_ESO
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    bg22 wrote: »
    nathan_bri wrote: »
    bg22 wrote: »
    ZoS... Please just remove them now. It does NOTHING to help your game. In fact, it really, really just hurts it.

    You do understand that whatever replaces Veteran Ranks is going to be merely a change in name, right? You must still have gear gating, or a brand-new 50 could wear the current VR14 BiS gear immediately. Whatever replaces it is still going to require time and effort, probably equivalent to whatever it takes to get to VR14 now.

    That's what the champion system is man.. lol

    This is old news.
    That's because people are posting about this like they never heard about the removal of veteran ranks. This isn't us crying about veteran ranks this is us asking when are they going to finally remove them like they said they were. You can't just walk into the middle of a conversation and starting criticizing people if you don't even know the facts. Now before anyone else posts something stupid in this thread, read:
    Greetings! I am Maria Aliprando, Gameplay Designer on the Champion System.

    We are hard at work on it and I’m here to answer a few of your questions. Most of these questions were also asked during our Guild Round Table in the last two days.

    How will the current system change when the Champion System gets introduced?

    The Champion System will introduce new past lvl 50 progression for your account where previously there was only an increase in Veteran Ranks and Attributes. The Champion System allows you spend points in the constellations to earn powerful passives such as giving your bash a chance to snare targets, reduce the amount of damage you take from flames or leech health on critical strikes.


    What happens to the Veteran Ranks we currently have VR1-12?

    We want to remove the Veteran Ranks from the game and rely on the more active progression provided by the Champion System. However, when we release the Champion System we will continue to maintain Veteran Ranks. We have several options as to how we will remove Veteran Ranks but all of them require time and careful planning. In the meantime, we are making Veteran Ranks earned by XP and reducing the overall time it takes to get a Veteran Rank. We are also rewarding an Attribute Point and a Skill Point each time you reach a Veteran Rank.


    What happens to the Skill Points from VR1-12? Are they carried over to the CS instead?

    The Skill Points we reward will not be removed from you! You will continue to have the same amount of Skill Points you do now. The Champion System does not reward any Skill Points, only gaining Veteran Ranks does. When we take out Veteran Ranks we will make sure that anyone that didn't make it max Veteran Rank will still rewarded with those Skill Points.


    Does everyone that is a Veteran Rank get lowered back to lvl50? Or are the Ranks staying, but only being changed to lvl 51, 52, etc instead?

    Similar to an answer before, we just don’t know yet.


    Should players that are VR1+ still work towards VR12 or should they just wait until the new changes.

    Continue to play! We are tracking your XP as you advance your way through Veteran Ranks and even past VR14. When the Champion System comes out we will reward you points right away based on the amount of XP you have earned up to a cap. In general, most people won’t reach the cap and we do not know what that cap is yet. We're still working out that value and making sure to take a look at the XP you all are earning.


    Edited by eventide03b14a_ESO on April 3, 2015 7:06PM
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  • Acrolas
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    I'm just treating the entire game as a solo mission until VR14. Otherwise I'd be somebody who finishes the three main stories and Coldharbour before level 40.

    The game doesn't pace you, especially if you're ostensibly buffed 100% for each friend who tags along. So you have to pace yourself.

    The way I see it, if you work a 64-step math problem and you make a stupid mistake on step three, you'll have to do the entire thing over. I'm not going to make a "mistake" because I rushed to step 64.
    signing off
  • Endurance
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    these ppl arent veterans they're rookies.. go play skyrim and type "tgm" in the console
    I'm outta here
  • Raash
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    Endurance wrote: »
    Dudis wrote: »
    You can grind a VR every two hours... idk the complaint.

    Where?

    Just find a zombie camp with decent spawn, that'l lget you to vr 10 or so, then go here

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6UF5xkVPBo

    no offense but you arent even being helpful your just gonna get that whole area nerfed next patch

    I think he was helpfull. further more: there is literally no reason what so ever for anyone not to be a vampire it seems. huge advantages in pvp (since its mostly large scale battles) and in PVE aswell it seems. The more mobs the easier it gets. I play a sorcerer myself and use pretty much same stuff as this guy and i cant even survive vs half that amount of mobs. i am fully dressed in vet 12 legendary btw. so only thing that is different is vampirism. Thanks for showing me.
    So, anyone got a vampire bite for me?
  • bg22
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    I'm just treating the entire game as a solo mission until VR14. Otherwise I'd be somebody who finishes the three main stories and Coldharbour before level 40.

    The game doesn't pace you, especially if you're ostensibly buffed 100% for each friend who tags along. So you have to pace yourself.

    The way I see it, if you work a 64-step math problem and you make a stupid mistake on step three, you'll have to do the entire thing over. I'm not going to make a "mistake" because I rushed to step 64.

    It's more like a 150 step math problem...

    And that's the problem.
  • Minack
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    Endurance wrote: »
    these ppl arent veterans they're rookies.. go play skyrim and type "tgm" in the console

    How many VR14s do you have?
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    Co signed gtfo VR
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  • Endurance
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    Minack wrote: »
    Endurance wrote: »
    these ppl arent veterans they're rookies.. go play skyrim and type "tgm" in the console

    How many VR14s do you have?

    i am VR7 with 3k atk power, and uhh 50 clothing, 48 blacksmithing, 45 woodworking, cadwell gold 3 maps left and im not rushing through them :)
    I'm outta here
  • Minack
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    Endurance wrote: »
    Minack wrote: »
    Endurance wrote: »
    these ppl arent veterans they're rookies.. go play skyrim and type "tgm" in the console

    How many VR14s do you have?

    i am VR7 with 3k atk power, and uhh 50 clothing, 48 blacksmithing, 45 woodworking, cadwell gold 3 maps left and im not rushing through them :)

    Get back to me when you do that 3 more times, master every crafting prof, research 8+ traits on everything and have leveled your alliance rank. Until then, go sling your "not a veteran" BS somewhere else. This "veteran" thinks VR is trash and needs to be removed or completely rebuilt from the ground up.
  • Endurance
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    Minack wrote: »
    Endurance wrote: »
    Minack wrote: »
    Endurance wrote: »
    these ppl arent veterans they're rookies.. go play skyrim and type "tgm" in the console

    How many VR14s do you have?

    i am VR7 with 3k atk power, and uhh 50 clothing, 48 blacksmithing, 45 woodworking, cadwell gold 3 maps left and im not rushing through them :)

    Get back to me when you do that 3 more times, master every crafting prof, research 8+ traits on everything and have leveled your alliance rank. Until then, go sling your "not a veteran" BS somewhere else. This "veteran" thinks VR is trash and needs to be removed or completely rebuilt from the ground up.

    nobody needs 5 or 10 VR14 characters, and if they did then maybe thats why they want VR removed.. the whole gameplay is fine to me nothing needs to be changed except for most of the nerfed skills and couple things in PVP
    I'm outta here
  • Zheg
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    Endurance wrote: »
    Minack wrote: »
    Endurance wrote: »
    these ppl arent veterans they're rookies.. go play skyrim and type "tgm" in the console

    How many VR14s do you have?

    i am VR7 with 3k atk power, and uhh 50 clothing, 48 blacksmithing, 45 woodworking, cadwell gold 3 maps left and im not rushing through them :)

    That's nice, it's your first character. However, for the rest of us that are leveling alts, being forced to do this all over again and read through the same quests for a 4th + time makes us bitter and resentful, especially since we know they're being removed 'soon', and especially since we know how much faster it used to be at launch (and how ridiculously fast it used to be when you get xp in craglorn).

    Furthermore, while you may be the exception, most new players don't want to spend this much time leveling. And lastly, just you wait until you finish up gold and have nothing left to hit v14 with. Craglorn is indeed broken; you're supposed to be able to go v10 to v14 there, and that's no longer possible (you can maybe get a full vet level completing the entire map).
    Edited by Zheg on April 3, 2015 11:31PM
  • Endurance
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    Zheg wrote: »
    Endurance wrote: »
    Minack wrote: »
    Endurance wrote: »
    these ppl arent veterans they're rookies.. go play skyrim and type "tgm" in the console

    How many VR14s do you have?

    i am VR7 with 3k atk power, and uhh 50 clothing, 48 blacksmithing, 45 woodworking, cadwell gold 3 maps left and im not rushing through them :)

    That's nice, it's your first character. However, for the rest of us that are leveling alts, being forced to do this all over again and read through the same quests for a 4th + time makes us bitter and resentful, especially since we know they're being removed 'soon', and especially since we know how much faster it used to be at launch (and how ridiculously fast it used to be when you get xp in craglorn).

    Furthermore, while you may be the exception, most new players don't want to spend this much time leveling. And lastly, just you wait until you finish up gold and have nothing left to hit v14 with. Craglorn is indeed broken; you're supposed to be able to go v10 to v14 there, and that's no longer possible (you can maybe get a full vet level completing the entire map).

    then maybe they should increase the exp gain in craglorn like it was in the past.. instead of everyone making topics about removing VR why not everyone complain about craglorn and the low exp gain?
    Edited by Endurance on April 3, 2015 11:35PM
    I'm outta here
  • Minack
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    Endurance wrote: »
    Minack wrote: »
    Endurance wrote: »
    Minack wrote: »
    Endurance wrote: »
    these ppl arent veterans they're rookies.. go play skyrim and type "tgm" in the console

    How many VR14s do you have?

    i am VR7 with 3k atk power, and uhh 50 clothing, 48 blacksmithing, 45 woodworking, cadwell gold 3 maps left and im not rushing through them :)

    Get back to me when you do that 3 more times, master every crafting prof, research 8+ traits on everything and have leveled your alliance rank. Until then, go sling your "not a veteran" BS somewhere else. This "veteran" thinks VR is trash and needs to be removed or completely rebuilt from the ground up.

    nobody needs 5 or 10 VR14 characters, and if they did then maybe thats why they want VR removed.. the whole gameplay is fine to me nothing needs to be changed except for most of the nerfed skills and couple things in PVP

    People need to be able to level alts in other factions in order to correct population disparities in PvP, not to mention experience other classes.
  • spinedoc
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    The issue isn't veteran levels IMO, it's the complete LACK OF NEW CONTENT. There is nothing to do other than the same stuff which was available on release day. Worse yet if you have alts you have to do the same freakin content all over again. I can't see the game really going anywhere without new content. Maybe a small upswing with all the F2P players, but then it will tank again.
  • Zheg
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    Endurance wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Endurance wrote: »
    Minack wrote: »
    Endurance wrote: »
    these ppl arent veterans they're rookies.. go play skyrim and type "tgm" in the console

    How many VR14s do you have?

    i am VR7 with 3k atk power, and uhh 50 clothing, 48 blacksmithing, 45 woodworking, cadwell gold 3 maps left and im not rushing through them :)

    That's nice, it's your first character. However, for the rest of us that are leveling alts, being forced to do this all over again and read through the same quests for a 4th + time makes us bitter and resentful, especially since we know they're being removed 'soon', and especially since we know how much faster it used to be at launch (and how ridiculously fast it used to be when you get xp in craglorn).

    Furthermore, while you may be the exception, most new players don't want to spend this much time leveling. And lastly, just you wait until you finish up gold and have nothing left to hit v14 with. Craglorn is indeed broken; you're supposed to be able to go v10 to v14 there, and that's no longer possible (you can maybe get a full vet level completing the entire map).

    then maybe they should increase the exp gain in craglorn like it was in the past.. instead of everyone making topics about removing VR why not everyone complain about craglorn and the low exp gain?

    I fully agree. This would be more than sufficient for me and would allow them time to remove VR at whatever timescale they need. The problem is - the threads you're talking about were tried and failed over a month ago and just fell on deaf developer ears.
  • Varicite
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    Arato wrote: »
    then maybe they should increase the exp gain in craglorn like it was in the past.. instead of everyone making topics about removing VR why not everyone complain about craglorn and the low exp gain?

    That's not the only issue at hand here.

    I posted this in another thread, but I think it applies very well to the topic at hand:

    Removing VRs finally allows players the CHOICE of endgame activities, instead of either A) questing for eternity or B ) AoE grinding for eternity just to get to the point where they can finally DO something meaningful.

    Now instead of the VR grind, you hit 50 and IF you want to do Cadwell's, you can do that. IF you want to go to Craglorn, you can do that too. IF you want to PvP, hop right in. IF you want to focus on dungeons / Trials, you aren't prohibited anymore by the grind.

    That's what the whole point of this Champion system change was, to allow players more freedom in their endgame activities. They had a somewhat solid idea to replace the progression that the VR system allowed through the Season Gear system and Champion Points.

    They just need to follow through and the game will very likely be better for it.
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    Endurance wrote: »
    Minack wrote: »
    Endurance wrote: »
    Minack wrote: »
    Endurance wrote: »
    these ppl arent veterans they're rookies.. go play skyrim and type "tgm" in the console

    How many VR14s do you have?

    i am VR7 with 3k atk power, and uhh 50 clothing, 48 blacksmithing, 45 woodworking, cadwell gold 3 maps left and im not rushing through them :)

    Get back to me when you do that 3 more times, master every crafting prof, research 8+ traits on everything and have leveled your alliance rank. Until then, go sling your "not a veteran" BS somewhere else. This "veteran" thinks VR is trash and needs to be removed or completely rebuilt from the ground up.

    nobody needs 5 or 10 VR14 characters, and if they did then maybe thats why they want VR removed.. the whole gameplay is fine to me nothing needs to be changed except for most of the nerfed skills and couple things in PVP
    Completely disagree with all the above.
    VR needs to go asap
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    Varicite wrote: »
    Arato wrote: »
    then maybe they should increase the exp gain in craglorn like it was in the past.. instead of everyone making topics about removing VR why not everyone complain about craglorn and the low exp gain?

    That's not the only issue at hand here.

    I posted this in another thread, but I think it applies very well to the topic at hand:

    Removing VRs finally allows players the CHOICE of endgame activities, instead of either A) questing for eternity or B ) AoE grinding for eternity just to get to the point where they can finally DO something meaningful.

    Now instead of the VR grind, you hit 50 and IF you want to do Cadwell's, you can do that. IF you want to go to Craglorn, you can do that too. IF you want to PvP, hop right in. IF you want to focus on dungeons / Trials, you aren't prohibited anymore by the grind.

    That's what the whole point of this Champion system change was, to allow players more freedom in their endgame activities. They had a somewhat solid idea to replace the progression that the VR system allowed through the Season Gear system and Champion Points.

    They just need to follow through and the game will very likely be better for it.
    Awesome!

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  • Videonauth
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    ElliottXO wrote: »
    What would happen? VR14 would become lvl 64? Getting rid of VR14 would really poss a lot of people off. All the gear and power reduced to what? Idk man, I really don't think ZoS could do it without screwing it up.

    If they reduce the VR 14 content to level 50 content then nothing is lost. You lose 20% of your stats and so do the mobs. So what?

    and you loose around 100-130 skillpoints ... so what ?

    Well to me that matter still alot :)
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    Videonauth wrote: »
    ElliottXO wrote: »
    What would happen? VR14 would become lvl 64? Getting rid of VR14 would really poss a lot of people off. All the gear and power reduced to what? Idk man, I really don't think ZoS could do it without screwing it up.

    If they reduce the VR 14 content to level 50 content then nothing is lost. You lose 20% of your stats and so do the mobs. So what?

    and you loose around 100-130 skillpoints ... so what ?

    Well to me that matter still alot :)

    You'd lose 14 skill points, 1 for each VR. And that's IF they even go that route.

    How on earth did you come up w/ 100-130? Are you thinking that you can't do VR content if they remove VR levels, because that is NOT the case.

    All of that content is still there, you just don't have to grind endlessly BEFORE you can do it.
    Edited by Varicite on April 4, 2015 12:31AM
  • Videonauth
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    Varicite wrote: »
    Videonauth wrote: »
    ElliottXO wrote: »
    What would happen? VR14 would become lvl 64? Getting rid of VR14 would really poss a lot of people off. All the gear and power reduced to what? Idk man, I really don't think ZoS could do it without screwing it up.

    If they reduce the VR 14 content to level 50 content then nothing is lost. You lose 20% of your stats and so do the mobs. So what?

    and you loose around 100-130 skillpoints ... so what ?

    Well to me that matter still alot :)

    You'd lose 14 skill points, 1 for each VR. And that's IF they even go that route.

    How on earth did you come up w/ 100-130? Are you thinking that you can't do VR content if they remove VR levels, because that is NOT the case.

    All of that content is still there, you just don't have to grind endlessly BEFORE you can do it.

    48 for all quests in all zone = 32 lost if they take out the posibility of silver and gold
    113 from skyshards = est half of em lost when above happens
    13 from the vet ranks

    those 100-130 was only a guess before now i looked it up.

    i was at 155 at level 50 now at vr 14 im at 277.
    Edited by Videonauth on April 4, 2015 12:41AM
  • Varicite
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    Videonauth wrote: »
    Varicite wrote: »
    Videonauth wrote: »
    ElliottXO wrote: »
    What would happen? VR14 would become lvl 64? Getting rid of VR14 would really poss a lot of people off. All the gear and power reduced to what? Idk man, I really don't think ZoS could do it without screwing it up.

    If they reduce the VR 14 content to level 50 content then nothing is lost. You lose 20% of your stats and so do the mobs. So what?

    and you loose around 100-130 skillpoints ... so what ?

    Well to me that matter still alot :)

    You'd lose 14 skill points, 1 for each VR. And that's IF they even go that route.

    How on earth did you come up w/ 100-130? Are you thinking that you can't do VR content if they remove VR levels, because that is NOT the case.

    All of that content is still there, you just don't have to grind endlessly BEFORE you can do it.

    48 for all quests in all zone = 32 lost if they take out the posibility of silver and gold
    113 from skyshards = est half of em lost when above happens
    13 from the vet ranks

    those 100-130 was only a guess before now i looked it up.

    i was at 155 at level 50 now at vr 14 im at 277.

    Yeah, that's not how it works. I'm not even sure why people think this.

    It's really hard to talk about the merits of a system w/ people who don't actually seem to know anything about it... : /

    But anyway, none of that stuff you mentioned is being removed. Just the VR levels, not the content.

    You would just do that content at lv50 instead and gain CP as you did them instead of VRs. You'll still have access to all of the quests, skyshards, etc.

    You just MIGHT lose the 13 from VR levels.
    Edited by Varicite on April 4, 2015 12:46AM
  • Xjcon
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    Varicite wrote: »
    Videonauth wrote: »
    Varicite wrote: »
    Videonauth wrote: »
    ElliottXO wrote: »
    What would happen? VR14 would become lvl 64? Getting rid of VR14 would really poss a lot of people off. All the gear and power reduced to what? Idk man, I really don't think ZoS could do it without screwing it up.

    If they reduce the VR 14 content to level 50 content then nothing is lost. You lose 20% of your stats and so do the mobs. So what?

    and you loose around 100-130 skillpoints ... so what ?

    Well to me that matter still alot :)

    You'd lose 14 skill points, 1 for each VR. And that's IF they even go that route.

    How on earth did you come up w/ 100-130? Are you thinking that you can't do VR content if they remove VR levels, because that is NOT the case.

    All of that content is still there, you just don't have to grind endlessly BEFORE you can do it.

    48 for all quests in all zone = 32 lost if they take out the posibility of silver and gold
    113 from skyshards = est half of em lost when above happens
    13 from the vet ranks

    those 100-130 was only a guess before now i looked it up.

    i was at 155 at level 50 now at vr 14 im at 277.

    Yeah, that's not how it works. I'm not even sure why people think this.

    It's really hard to talk about the merits of a system w/ people who don't actually seem to know anything about it... : /

    But anyway, none of that stuff you mentioned is being removed. Just the VR levels, not the content.

    You would just do that content at lv50 instead and gain CP as you did them instead of VRs. You'll still have access to all of the quests, skyshards, etc.

    You just MIGHT lose the 13 from VR levels.

    Did zos tell you this is how it's going to be?
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  • Arato
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    I'm just treating the entire game as a solo mission until VR14. Otherwise I'd be somebody who finishes the three main stories and Coldharbour before level 40.

    The game doesn't pace you, especially if you're ostensibly buffed 100% for each friend who tags along. So you have to pace yourself.

    The way I see it, if you work a 64-step math problem and you make a stupid mistake on step three, you'll have to do the entire thing over. I'm not going to make a "mistake" because I rushed to step 64.

    You won't hit VR14 through solo questing, unless you're doing repeatable quests in cyrodiil every day.
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    bg22 wrote: »
    Yeah, it's a breeze if you're unemployed and single.

    Heh, these comments.

    I started at launch, I'm only VR9. The story is nice, but I have to agree that I'd not play through the story again at the same enjoyment level. But I have no interest in playing another character after this one. I play a few hours a week and that's good enough for me.



  • Varicite
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    Xjcon wrote: »
    Varicite wrote: »
    Videonauth wrote: »
    Varicite wrote: »
    Videonauth wrote: »
    ElliottXO wrote: »
    What would happen? VR14 would become lvl 64? Getting rid of VR14 would really poss a lot of people off. All the gear and power reduced to what? Idk man, I really don't think ZoS could do it without screwing it up.

    If they reduce the VR 14 content to level 50 content then nothing is lost. You lose 20% of your stats and so do the mobs. So what?

    and you loose around 100-130 skillpoints ... so what ?

    Well to me that matter still alot :)

    You'd lose 14 skill points, 1 for each VR. And that's IF they even go that route.

    How on earth did you come up w/ 100-130? Are you thinking that you can't do VR content if they remove VR levels, because that is NOT the case.

    All of that content is still there, you just don't have to grind endlessly BEFORE you can do it.

    48 for all quests in all zone = 32 lost if they take out the posibility of silver and gold
    113 from skyshards = est half of em lost when above happens
    13 from the vet ranks

    those 100-130 was only a guess before now i looked it up.

    i was at 155 at level 50 now at vr 14 im at 277.

    Yeah, that's not how it works. I'm not even sure why people think this.

    It's really hard to talk about the merits of a system w/ people who don't actually seem to know anything about it... : /

    But anyway, none of that stuff you mentioned is being removed. Just the VR levels, not the content.

    You would just do that content at lv50 instead and gain CP as you did them instead of VRs. You'll still have access to all of the quests, skyshards, etc.

    You just MIGHT lose the 13 from VR levels.

    Did zos tell you this is how it's going to be?

    Yes, actually.
    Greetings! I am Maria Aliprando, Gameplay Designer on the Champion System.

    We are hard at work on it and I’m here to answer a few of your questions. Most of these questions were also asked during our Guild Round Table in the last two days.

    How will the current system change when the Champion System gets introduced?

    The Champion System will introduce new past lvl 50 progression for your account where previously there was only an increase in Veteran Ranks and Attributes. The Champion System allows you spend points in the constellations to earn powerful passives such as giving your bash a chance to snare targets, reduce the amount of damage you take from flames or leech health on critical strikes.


    What happens to the Veteran Ranks we currently have VR1-12?

    We want to remove the Veteran Ranks from the game and rely on the more active progression provided by the Champion System. However, when we release the Champion System we will continue to maintain Veteran Ranks. We have several options as to how we will remove Veteran Ranks but all of them require time and careful planning. In the meantime, we are making Veteran Ranks earned by XP and reducing the overall time it takes to get a Veteran Rank. We are also rewarding an Attribute Point and a Skill Point each time you reach a Veteran Rank.


    What happens to the Skill Points from VR1-12? Are they carried over to the CS instead?

    The Skill Points we reward will not be removed from you! You will continue to have the same amount of Skill Points you do now. The Champion System does not reward any Skill Points, only gaining Veteran Ranks does. When we take out Veteran Ranks we will make sure that anyone that didn't make it max Veteran Rank will still rewarded with those Skill Points.


    Does everyone that is a Veteran Rank get lowered back to lvl50? Or are the Ranks staying, but only being changed to lvl 51, 52, etc instead?

    Similar to an answer before, we just don’t know yet.


    Should players that are VR1+ still work towards VR12 or should they just wait until the new changes.

    Continue to play! We are tracking your XP as you advance your way through Veteran Ranks and even past VR14. When the Champion System comes out we will reward you points right away based on the amount of XP you have earned up to a cap. In general, most people won’t reach the cap and we do not know what that cap is yet. We're still working out that value and making sure to take a look at the XP you all are earning.

    Point out the part where they say that they are planning to remove VR CONTENT.

    They are planning to remove only the ranks themselves, but still haven't said exactly how they plan to do this.

    People just really need to stop talking about the removal of content, because that is not happening.
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    Videonauth wrote: »
    Varicite wrote: »
    Videonauth wrote: »
    ElliottXO wrote: »
    What would happen? VR14 would become lvl 64? Getting rid of VR14 would really poss a lot of people off. All the gear and power reduced to what? Idk man, I really don't think ZoS could do it without screwing it up.

    If they reduce the VR 14 content to level 50 content then nothing is lost. You lose 20% of your stats and so do the mobs. So what?

    and you loose around 100-130 skillpoints ... so what ?

    Well to me that matter still alot :)

    You'd lose 14 skill points, 1 for each VR. And that's IF they even go that route.

    How on earth did you come up w/ 100-130? Are you thinking that you can't do VR content if they remove VR levels, because that is NOT the case.

    All of that content is still there, you just don't have to grind endlessly BEFORE you can do it.

    48 for all quests in all zone = 32 lost if they take out the posibility of silver and gold
    113 from skyshards = est half of em lost when above happens
    13 from the vet ranks

    those 100-130 was only a guess before now i looked it up.

    i was at 155 at level 50 now at vr 14 im at 277.

    Why don't you tell us more about things you are cluless about?

    They're NOT removing CONTENT. Only the ranks. EVERYONE will be rewarded the 14 skill points, and attribute points earned in the Veteran ranks.

    The only thing that is changing is the veteran ranks are going. NOTHING else.

    Please... tell me more crap that you just decided to make up.
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    Videonauth wrote: »
    ElliottXO wrote: »
    What would happen? VR14 would become lvl 64? Getting rid of VR14 would really poss a lot of people off. All the gear and power reduced to what? Idk man, I really don't think ZoS could do it without screwing it up.

    If they reduce the VR 14 content to level 50 content then nothing is lost. You lose 20% of your stats and so do the mobs. So what?

    and you loose around 100-130 skillpoints ... so what ?

    Well to me that matter still alot :)
    That isn't the suggestion. It's not deleting VR levels but instead converting so no one looses anything.
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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    Hey.........

    This is where short term memory issues come into their own.....

    Two VR14's and a VR9, all DC.....

    About to start my 4th........

    Do I get to some quests and think 'oh no not again' yes but I also get to other quests and think ooooh good story and read everything all over again!

    Some quests I don't remember at all!!
    When people say to me........
    "You're going to regret that in the morning"
    I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!
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