I don't want to speak too soon, but at the moment Sorc is extremely strong on PTS. Those of you struggling and frustrated with the class please hear me out and take some advice:
If you're NOT all magicka with a hardened ward based defense, you're going to suck. Unfortunately game mechanics push you in this direction.
If you ARE all magicka with a hardened ward based defense, you're going to LOVE your new Sorc. We are EXTREMELY powerful in PTS PvP right now. I suspect this may taper off as other classes develop their new builds, but were in a good spot right now.
I don't want to speak too soon, but at the moment Sorc is extremely strong on PTS. Those of you struggling and frustrated with the class please hear me out and take some advice:
If you're NOT all magicka with a hardened ward based defense, you're going to suck. Unfortunately game mechanics push you in this direction.
If you ARE all magicka with a hardened ward based defense, you're going to LOVE your new Sorc. We are EXTREMELY powerful in PTS PvP right now. I suspect this may taper off as other classes develop their new builds, but were in a good spot right now.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.
Granted I play EU so I can't actually play my character just a vet 14 template. But so far.
1) I have not noticed any damage increase from my rotation it even seems less than it use to be (probably based on having generic gear)
2) The pets still seem to be completely worthless in PvP not even sure what kills them most of the time.
3) Deadric curse still seems insanely underpowered, I was expecting a damage bonus but I didn't see that.
4) Light armour appears to be worthless so I will have to move over to heavy armour. Very easy with a template char less so on my real ones but given the power jump I got in heavy armour defiantly worth it.
Sabre does make one point with which I agree, having given it some thought: Perhaps we should stop thinking of Critical Surge as our class heal, and give that label to Hardened Ward. Hardened Ward is still pretty solid.
Hardened ward and the resulting shield stacking is frownend upon by most of the community. However its the way to play for a sorc atleast in pvp. Not much other choices left.
15000 points dmg shield is nice though. Have not seen a heal that high
15k damage shield? Enlighten me, mine is only 8k @Derra
@Gorthax @XEVENEX sry i went to bed. Here you go:
I get about 9.3k base shield (who the hell thought it was smart to level skills? i won´t test anything this way) with the crap gear without any max magica (1 bonus actually) on the pts right now @ 28500 magica (bufffood providing about 2.9k magica equal about 1100 shieldstrengh). Other stats in Cyro are 21k health 13k stam.
If it scales linear i will reach about 35k to 37k magica with my "live" equipment. This will equal about 11 to 12k base shield strengh + 33%.
@Derra
My shield is roughly 8.1k and I have 28.3 magicka right now. so an extra 200 magicka will make that huge of a jump?
I don't want to speak too soon, but at the moment Sorc is extremely strong on PTS. Those of you struggling and frustrated with the class please hear me out and take some advice:
If you're NOT all magicka with a hardened ward based defense, you're going to suck. Unfortunately game mechanics push you in this direction.
If you ARE all magicka with a hardened ward based defense, you're going to LOVE your new Sorc. We are EXTREMELY powerful in PTS PvP right now. I suspect this may taper off as other classes develop their new builds, but were in a good spot right now.
Sabre does make one point with which I agree, having given it some thought: Perhaps we should stop thinking of Critical Surge as our class heal, and give that label to Hardened Ward. Hardened Ward is still pretty solid.
Hardened ward and the resulting shield stacking is frownend upon by most of the community. However its the way to play for a sorc atleast in pvp. Not much other choices left.
15000 points dmg shield is nice though. Have not seen a heal that high
15k damage shield? Enlighten me, mine is only 8k @Derra
@Gorthax @XEVENEX sry i went to bed. Here you go:
I get about 9.3k base shield (who the hell thought it was smart to level skills? i won´t test anything this way) with the crap gear without any max magica (1 bonus actually) on the pts right now @ 28500 magica (bufffood providing about 2.9k magica equal about 1100 shieldstrengh). Other stats in Cyro are 21k health 13k stam.
If it scales linear i will reach about 35k to 37k magica with my "live" equipment. This will equal about 11 to 12k base shield strengh + 33%.
@Derra
My shield is roughly 8.1k and I have 28.3 magicka right now. so an extra 200 magicka will make that huge of a jump?
missed the champ system passive! sry
5p seducer 3-piece Magnus 3-piece healer. Purple. Cheap. how exactly do you feel under powered? Every sorc I talk to on pts is elated.
Sabre does make one point with which I agree, having given it some thought: Perhaps we should stop thinking of Critical Surge as our class heal, and give that label to Hardened Ward. Hardened Ward is still pretty solid.
Hardened ward and the resulting shield stacking is frownend upon by most of the community. However its the way to play for a sorc atleast in pvp. Not much other choices left.
15000 points dmg shield is nice though. Have not seen a heal that high
15k damage shield? Enlighten me, mine is only 8k @Derra
@Gorthax @XEVENEX sry i went to bed. Here you go:
I get about 9.3k base shield (who the hell thought it was smart to level skills? i won´t test anything this way) with the crap gear without any max magica (1 bonus actually) on the pts right now @ 28500 magica (bufffood providing about 2.9k magica equal about 1100 shieldstrengh). Other stats in Cyro are 21k health 13k stam.
If it scales linear i will reach about 35k to 37k magica with my "live" equipment. This will equal about 11 to 12k base shield strengh + 33%.
@Derra
My shield is roughly 8.1k and I have 28.3 magicka right now. so an extra 200 magicka will make that huge of a jump?
missed the champ system passive! sry
It is all good. I am just seriously frustrated with where sorcs are at. People are claiming 15-16k dps with pets.....I cant seem to achieve it. Others are claiming sorcs are OP......cant achieve that either. Light armor is just utter garbage and I see no point in using it anymore. I see snipe hitting for 22-25k and crit charge hitting for 19-20k. how the heck are you supposed to compete with that.....seriously.
I wear impen, I have shields on, and I still get wrecked. I honestly prefer 1.5 over 1.6. Maybe that will change once they start doing passes on the pts and start adjusting things. I have a feeling that wont be for a while though
5p seducer 3-piece Magnus 3-piece healer. Purple. Cheap. how exactly do you feel under powered? Every sorc I talk to on pts is elated.
Well for starters, pets suck. They are not anything like they said they were gonna be. Secondly my normal rotation of the cliche CS build does not feel anywhere like it does on 1.5 I have no clue how to explain it other than that. Play style didnt change, gear didnt change, technique didnt change. WRECKED
5p seducer 3-piece Magnus 3-piece healer. Purple. Cheap. how exactly do you feel under powered? Every sorc I talk to on pts is elated.
Well for starters, pets suck. They are not anything like they said they were gonna be. Secondly my normal rotation of the cliche CS build does not feel anywhere like it does on 1.5 I have no clue how to explain it other than that. Play style didnt change, gear didnt change, technique didnt change. WRECKED
Try switching some skills around. Not all of the current live builds are working. One thing to keep in mind is it looks like there is a new meta. You most likely have to make a few changes.
SORCERER V10 CRIT SURGE BUILD LIVE VS SORC V14 BUILD PTS- THE MISSION? TRY TO KILL A SWARM OF WASPS.5p seducer 3-piece Magnus 3-piece healer. Purple. Cheap. how exactly do you feel under powered? Every sorc I talk to on pts is elated.
Well for starters, pets suck. They are not anything like they said they were gonna be. Secondly my normal rotation of the cliche CS build does not feel anywhere like it does on 1.5 I have no clue how to explain it other than that. Play style didnt change, gear didnt change, technique didnt change. WRECKED
Try switching some skills around. Not all of the current live builds are working. One thing to keep in mind is it looks like there is a new meta. You most likely have to make a few changes.
Is it just me or am I the only one that feels that an update isn't an effective one if we have to completely change the way we've played for the past year???
1.6 sounds more like a complete over haul to force us to play our characters as ZOS wants them to be played. Which is NOT "PLAY AS YOU WANT". Now, we have to change our builds to the way ZOS wants just to be able to survive? This just doesn't sound right....
sabresandiego_ESO wrote: »Here is a good pvp pet build.
resto bar:
pet
pet
empowered ward
harness magicka
rapid regen
Destro bar:
pet
pet
daedric curse pet morph
force shock or endless fury or crystal frag or destructive touch for final skills
this type of build does insane dps in light armor with maxed out magicka and has great survivability due to shield stacking and hots.
Maybe this is good for PvP, but tell me, who will take you with this *** into a trials or DSA? Nobody. Why? Bcs this build is not DPS, just a grandmothers pet build, do not mention, that pets die faster than the caster can recast them - especially in DSA where *** of mobs coming in each round... And do not mention, that the pets are still bugged and there is no option to command them to attack the specified target, they are running like a chickens..
The biggest problem is, that ZOS forces us to use this *** in everywhere, PvE - PvP as well...
you are aware that Holding the default key --> Y <-- then left clicking while highlighting said target makes them attack, then doing the same thing but right clicking makes them come back to you.....
5p seducer 3-piece Magnus 3-piece healer. Purple. Cheap. how exactly do you feel under powered? Every sorc I talk to on pts is elated.
Well for starters, pets suck. They are not anything like they said they were gonna be. Secondly my normal rotation of the cliche CS build does not feel anywhere like it does on 1.5 I have no clue how to explain it other than that. Play style didnt change, gear didnt change, technique didnt change. WRECKED
Try switching some skills around. Not all of the current live builds are working. One thing to keep in mind is it looks like there is a new meta. You most likely have to make a few changes.
I think pets are viable in pvp but you must use empowered ward not hardened ward in conjunction with daderic prey they stack and make pets hit like a truck and they get a nice damage shield as well.
I'm not sure I will use pets in pvp though, the protection you get from hardended ward is a lot to give up. Although pets could be an advantage 1v1 but most fights in pvp aren't 1v1 so it probably wont be as good, but in duels....oh boy.
I think pets are viable in pvp but you must use empowered ward not hardened ward in conjunction with daderic prey they stack and make pets hit like a truck and they get a nice damage shield as well.
I'm not sure I will use pets in pvp though, the protection you get from hardended ward is a lot to give up. Although pets could be an advantage 1v1 but most fights in pvp aren't 1v1 so it probably wont be as good, but in duels....oh boy.
indigoblades wrote: »the only good sorc build i have made is a sorc pve stam build which mainly uses lightning form, brawler, rally, degeneration and hardened ward. Stam reduction jewerly too. i tried in pvp and it seemed the same.
tommorow i ll respect attributes for a resto/destro with entropy/high magika build.
I like my sorc but not sure its gonna work in pvp.