ZoS, we are NOT with you!
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✭✭✭✭✭2-3k crowns for DLC and 3k+ for race change......Looks like its more work for zeni to change.... race, than build a whole DLC form scratch......
"Minmaxing" while classes/races/skills are unbalanced for over 2 years and they ll keep changing after every other patch? Anyways makes no sense to pay 20$ for race change every 3 months unless...... someone is stupid or kid and has no respect for the money spent
I agree.
It is kinda sad that the dlc price is cheaper but I'm guessing ZoS wants the dlc to be easily accessible to most players but the price point on the race change is to discourage rampant FOTM changes.
and yet, people like you fail to think of all the people who make very little and play this game BECAUSE it's free. and DON'T have hundreds of dollars to spend on a game. your point of view is disappointingly narrow if you ask me.
Its not free.
The game cost money to buy. $60 if you got it at full price
Your computer/console costs money $1500-$2000/$200-$400
Your Internet costs money $30-$50 per month
Your electric costs money $100 per month on average across the country (USA).
If you can't afford $20-$25, then how do/did you pay for all of the above? You cant afford any of it if you're that strapped. Sorry your arguement doesn't float.
Race and name change are not necessary to play the game. You impose the WANT on yourself, not the game.
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✭✭✭✭2-3k crowns for DLC and 3k+ for race change......Looks like its more work for zeni to change.... race, than build a whole DLC form scratch......
"Minmaxing" while classes/races/skills are unbalanced for over 2 years and they ll keep changing after every other patch? Anyways makes no sense to pay 20$ for race change every 3 months unless...... someone is stupid or kid and has no respect for the money spent
I agree.
It is kinda sad that the dlc price is cheaper but I'm guessing ZoS wants the dlc to be easily accessible to most players but the price point on the race change is to discourage rampant FOTM changes.
and yet, people like you fail to think of all the people who make very little and play this game BECAUSE it's free. and DON'T have hundreds of dollars to spend on a game. your point of view is disappointingly narrow if you ask me.
Its not free.
The game cost money to buy. $60 if you got it at full price
Your computer/console costs money $1500-$2000/$200-$400
Your Internet costs money $30-$50 per month
Your electric costs money $110 per month in average
If you can't afford $20-$25, then how do/did you pay for all of the above? You cant afford any of it if you're that strapped. Sorry your arguement doesn't float.
I can't tell if this is bait or not.
Daggerfall Covenant
Sallington - Templar - Stormproof - Prefect II
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DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sallington wrote: »2-3k crowns for DLC and 3k+ for race change......Looks like its more work for zeni to change.... race, than build a whole DLC form scratch......
"Minmaxing" while classes/races/skills are unbalanced for over 2 years and they ll keep changing after every other patch? Anyways makes no sense to pay 20$ for race change every 3 months unless...... someone is stupid or kid and has no respect for the money spent
I agree.
It is kinda sad that the dlc price is cheaper but I'm guessing ZoS wants the dlc to be easily accessible to most players but the price point on the race change is to discourage rampant FOTM changes.
and yet, people like you fail to think of all the people who make very little and play this game BECAUSE it's free. and DON'T have hundreds of dollars to spend on a game. your point of view is disappointingly narrow if you ask me.
Its not free.
The game cost money to buy. $60 if you got it at full price
Your computer/console costs money $1500-$2000/$200-$400
Your Internet costs money $30-$50 per month
Your electric costs money $110 per month in average
If you can't afford $20-$25, then how do/did you pay for all of the above? You cant afford any of it if you're that strapped. Sorry your arguement doesn't float.
I can't tell if this is bait or not.
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Natetendo83✭✭Anybody who knows anything about business and economics knows that the only way for a game like this to stay profitable is to either mandate a monthly fee or monetize things like cosmetics. It's either you pay if you want to change your character or you pay a monthly fee. Pick one.1
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CromulentForumID✭✭✭✭Bad_Company wrote: »@Rohamad_Ali That's right, I don't know how much they make and you're wrong, I don't think this is the only way for ZOS to afford them. I think that when you put a lot of work into something you deserve credit. And believe me when I say that if they released this stuff for free people would be thankful for a couple hours, then come back here to the forums and bash ZOS for not fixing bugs or not implementing the patch to be perfect and issue-free. So no, what's 2/10 is your reasoning I'm afraid.
I bolded the part I am replying to.
I think the main beef is that, at least for appearance changes, players feel like the devs didn't put a lot of work into it and are still getting charging a significant price.
There was no new in-game location, no NPCs, nothing related to the actual game at all. We got the ability to jump to a menu from a character screen. If the argument is that we need to fund development, OK, I get that, but what development are we paying for?
This thread unfortunately gets muddled because all three of the options are talked about: Name change, appearance change and race change. A lot of players also seem to have a different definition of what they consider an appearance change. For example, do you consider just changing your facial hair an appearance change?
People arguing against having to pay for these options are aware that it takes money to run a game. Really, they do. You don't have to pat them on the head and explain the real world to them. They're just wondering what they're getting for that money.
To be fair, I feel like I need to add that, as gamers, we really do have ourselves to blame on this one. Sure, the company is exploiting our desires, but we're the ones who lap up $40 mounts and $15 dresses and real-money XP scrolls. These cash-store options would not have become the norm if we did not let them.
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Averya_Teira✭✭✭✭✭2-3k crowns for DLC and 3k+ for race change......Looks like its more work for zeni to change.... race, than build a whole DLC form scratch......
"Minmaxing" while classes/races/skills are unbalanced for over 2 years and they ll keep changing after every other patch? Anyways makes no sense to pay 20$ for race change every 3 months unless...... someone is stupid or kid and has no respect for the money spent
I agree.
It is kinda sad that the dlc price is cheaper but I'm guessing ZoS wants the dlc to be easily accessible to most players but the price point on the race change is to discourage rampant FOTM changes.
and yet, people like you fail to think of all the people who make very little and play this game BECAUSE it's free. and DON'T have hundreds of dollars to spend on a game. your point of view is disappointingly narrow if you ask me.
But... The game's not free...1 -
dalodir✭✭Natetendo83 wrote: »Anybody who knows anything about business and economics knows that the only way for a game like this to stay profitable is to either mandate a monthly fee or monetize things like cosmetics. It's either you pay if you want to change your character or you pay a monthly fee. Pick one.
This game has both. Only if you pay a monthly fee you still need to pay more money for the the other content.Edited by dalodir on 3 August 2016 19:250 -
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✭✭✭Natetendo83 wrote: »Anybody who knows anything about business and economics knows that the only way for a game like this to stay profitable is to either mandate a monthly fee or monetize things like cosmetics. It's either you pay if you want to change your character or you pay a monthly fee. Pick one.
I'm guessing you don't know anything about business?
Maybe you should step out of the "MMO" sector and look at how some companies make money. You don't have to rip people off or rob them to stay profitable.
If you want a friend, get a dog.
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Averya_Teira✭✭✭✭✭Natetendo83 wrote: »Anybody who knows anything about business and economics knows that the only way for a game like this to stay profitable is to either mandate a monthly fee or monetize things like cosmetics. It's either you pay if you want to change your character or you pay a monthly fee. Pick one.
The thing is... People buy it, so why wouldn't ZOS sell it lol ?
Have you seen how many *** are riding that 40$ thunder cat ?
That should say something about this game's customers.3 -
in all honesty i see a hell of alot more ppl wearing armor than costumes so technically teh dyes are kind of a waste , the name change fix is easy create a new char its not hard to reach 50 from level 1 , you can do it in6-10 hours depending on where you grind , andskill points are easy to get just grab them from each map and bam solved ,the name change the same way , race change can be done that way too but i can see how some would be distressed over it considering they dont wanna have to do all teh work allo ver again to regain pvp skills and lorebooks since lore books sure can be grabbed easily but its a chore to some. to the cost of it all yes i agree with soem that it is too odam expensive just to change a name when the coding is easy as hell, race change and appearance change shouldnt be that expensive either as you can buy outfits ,costumes and other stuff for far less. thats my opinion on it all . also ppl with eso+ can dye basically for free so what happened to goin free to play and those who have subs can keep them but teh game will be advantages to both non subs and subs.that is the question that i ask you zenimax to answer. eso+ may include nice things btu yoru only renting teh dlcs ,you lose your subscription and you can no longer play teh dlc areas as with nonsubs they buy teh dlcs and can play them at anytime without worrying that if they lose their sub they cant play them coz they own them so basically the non subscribers also help the game by buying dlcs and other crownstore items so i dont wanna hear that teh non subs dont help fund the game coz we do i own all dlcs and abunch of other crown store items just myself . so zenimax ,zos or whatever your calling yourselves , what happened to teh game being equal for both non subs and subs alike ,granted gettin free crowns isnice but im not about to rent a dlc by gettin eso+ id rather own it and not worry about subscriptions , if i wanted to sub id go play WOW.Edited by xeroflare357 on 3 August 2016 20:09Buliwyf Steelheart - Nord Templar Crafter
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natewook✭✭✭you know, eso just gave all the subs and people who HAVE the $$$ to spend on the new DLC two new dungeons that drop new armor motifs that could sell for TENS of thousands, 100% unique new armor with great stats, AND also locked all the mats for the new motifs to only drop in the new dungeons.
you'd think that at least the name change & barber shop would be cheap, but nope
wow indeedsometimes I'll take subjects to far and ask for an arm, leg and maybe an eye, please be patent with me.
remember this thread people: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/193736/should-eso-turn-up-the-heat-aka-gore-revisited/p1
necromancer? why I've neve- I would never do such a thing! XD0 -
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✭✭vamp_emily wrote: »Natetendo83 wrote: »Anybody who knows anything about business and economics knows that the only way for a game like this to stay profitable is to either mandate a monthly fee or monetize things like cosmetics. It's either you pay if you want to change your character or you pay a monthly fee. Pick one.
I'm guessing you don't know anything about business?
Maybe you should step out of the "MMO" sector and look at how some companies make money. You don't have to rip people off or rob them to stay profitable.
but no-one is being ripped off or robbed. the prices aren't hidden and you aren't being forced to buy anything.
and zos.... we are with you
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well, I'm glad these high prices feed your fragile ego.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Natetendo83 wrote: »Anybody who knows anything about business and economics knows that the only way for a game like this to stay profitable is to either mandate a monthly fee or monetize things like cosmetics. It's either you pay if you want to change your character or you pay a monthly fee. Pick one.
I'm guessing you don't know anything about business?
Maybe you should step out of the "MMO" sector and look at how some companies make money. You don't have to rip people off or rob them to stay profitable.
but no-one is being ripped off or robbed. the prices aren't hidden and you aren't being forced to buy anything.
and zos.... we are with youEdited by natewook on 3 August 2016 20:44sometimes I'll take subjects to far and ask for an arm, leg and maybe an eye, please be patent with me.
remember this thread people: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/193736/should-eso-turn-up-the-heat-aka-gore-revisited/p1
necromancer? why I've neve- I would never do such a thing! XD3 -
vamp_emily✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Natetendo83 wrote: »Anybody who knows anything about business and economics knows that the only way for a game like this to stay profitable is to either mandate a monthly fee or monetize things like cosmetics. It's either you pay if you want to change your character or you pay a monthly fee. Pick one.
I'm guessing you don't know anything about business?
Maybe you should step out of the "MMO" sector and look at how some companies make money. You don't have to rip people off or rob them to stay profitable.
but no-one is being ripped off or robbed. the prices aren't hidden and you aren't being forced to buy anything.
and zos.... we are with you
You still don't get it. I'm assuming you never will.
If you want a friend, get a dog.
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DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
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well, I'm glad these high prices feed your fragile ego.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Natetendo83 wrote: »Anybody who knows anything about business and economics knows that the only way for a game like this to stay profitable is to either mandate a monthly fee or monetize things like cosmetics. It's either you pay if you want to change your character or you pay a monthly fee. Pick one.
I'm guessing you don't know anything about business?
Maybe you should step out of the "MMO" sector and look at how some companies make money. You don't have to rip people off or rob them to stay profitable.
but no-one is being ripped off or robbed. the prices aren't hidden and you aren't being forced to buy anything.
and zos.... we are with you
Nope. The fact that I can afford them feeds my fragile ego and allows me to feel superior to the commoners.2 -
natewook✭✭✭
well, I'm glad these high prices feed your fragile ego.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Natetendo83 wrote: »Anybody who knows anything about business and economics knows that the only way for a game like this to stay profitable is to either mandate a monthly fee or monetize things like cosmetics. It's either you pay if you want to change your character or you pay a monthly fee. Pick one.
I'm guessing you don't know anything about business?
Maybe you should step out of the "MMO" sector and look at how some companies make money. You don't have to rip people off or rob them to stay profitable.
but no-one is being ripped off or robbed. the prices aren't hidden and you aren't being forced to buy anything.
and zos.... we are with you
Nope. The fact that I can afford them feeds my fragile ego and allows me to feel superior to the commoners.
LMAOEdited by natewook on 3 August 2016 20:53sometimes I'll take subjects to far and ask for an arm, leg and maybe an eye, please be patent with me.
remember this thread people: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/193736/should-eso-turn-up-the-heat-aka-gore-revisited/p1
necromancer? why I've neve- I would never do such a thing! XD2 -
natewook✭✭✭
well, I'm glad these high prices feed your fragile ego.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Natetendo83 wrote: »Anybody who knows anything about business and economics knows that the only way for a game like this to stay profitable is to either mandate a monthly fee or monetize things like cosmetics. It's either you pay if you want to change your character or you pay a monthly fee. Pick one.
I'm guessing you don't know anything about business?
Maybe you should step out of the "MMO" sector and look at how some companies make money. You don't have to rip people off or rob them to stay profitable.
but no-one is being ripped off or robbed. the prices aren't hidden and you aren't being forced to buy anything.
and zos.... we are with you
Nope. The fact that I can afford them feeds my fragile ego and allows me to feel superior to the commoners.
unfortunately, there a good chance that might just be true.Edited by natewook on 3 August 2016 20:54sometimes I'll take subjects to far and ask for an arm, leg and maybe an eye, please be patent with me.
remember this thread people: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/193736/should-eso-turn-up-the-heat-aka-gore-revisited/p1
necromancer? why I've neve- I would never do such a thing! XD3 -
jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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well, I'm glad these high prices feed your fragile ego.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Natetendo83 wrote: »Anybody who knows anything about business and economics knows that the only way for a game like this to stay profitable is to either mandate a monthly fee or monetize things like cosmetics. It's either you pay if you want to change your character or you pay a monthly fee. Pick one.
I'm guessing you don't know anything about business?
Maybe you should step out of the "MMO" sector and look at how some companies make money. You don't have to rip people off or rob them to stay profitable.
but no-one is being ripped off or robbed. the prices aren't hidden and you aren't being forced to buy anything.
and zos.... we are with you
wut?
i point out that the prices aren't hidden and no one is forced to buy and you see that as equating to a fragile ego?
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✭✭vamp_emily wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Natetendo83 wrote: »Anybody who knows anything about business and economics knows that the only way for a game like this to stay profitable is to either mandate a monthly fee or monetize things like cosmetics. It's either you pay if you want to change your character or you pay a monthly fee. Pick one.
I'm guessing you don't know anything about business?
Maybe you should step out of the "MMO" sector and look at how some companies make money. You don't have to rip people off or rob them to stay profitable.
but no-one is being ripped off or robbed. the prices aren't hidden and you aren't being forced to buy anything.
and zos.... we are with you
You still don't get it. I'm assuming you never will.
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You people have no damn idea what you're saying. The biggest MMORPG on the market also charges real money for all these things, but it also has a monthly mandatory subscription fee. You should be a lot more grateful, yet you complain instead. Do a little bit of research before you talk.
If you're referring to WoW, then I don't believe WoW is doing this:- Constantly crashing for mysterious reasons.
- Lagging on PC worse than GTA 4 back in those days.
- Promising players to follow lore and do everything with care and instead roll out bootleg CROWN ONLY "Barber Shop"
- Speaking of Barber Shop, in that game you can change haircut for in-game gold.
- Rolling out two new dungeons for 20$
- Having GMs as non-existent absent spices that few people seen somewhere in Dawn Era and never again since then.
- Having PvP consisting of literally two tactics: either zergballing or screwing up those who zergball.
- Asking 10$ for old haircuts.
- Failing to deliver most of their promises.
- Ignoring game breaking bugs for months.
- Ignoring fact that people adopt engine flaws as part of combat tactics.
- Ignoring any complaints about anything that casuals don't care about.
- Having literally ZERO events ever.
- Lacking anything to do except suffering through Loading Screens in Cyrodiil and grinding bosses in PvE in hopes to get RNG monster set.
- Speaking of doing PvE, in that game you have steady progress towards getting something as you simply collect special tokens for that dungeon instead of doing same dungeon for billion times cause every time game drops you a monster gear piece that you already have and can't sell or trade.
- Not being able to earn most of the mounts for doing special quests or achievements and not sending people to shop for everything.
- Not having various in-game events related to summer time, Easter, winter time and so on. (Quick Note: I don't ask for events that are strictly ripping off IRL. TES universe got plenty of them: Fire Festival, New Life Festival, Heart's Day, First and Second Planting and so on. With all that said ESO has none of TES universe holidays).
- Having to load every single zone instead of having one big, almost seamless world.
- Feeding people with stories how everything is going to be awesome and yet failing to deliver it in time, and later rolling out a bootleg resemblance of what used to be their awesome idea they've been talking on live.
- Lying to people like "We increase level cap to 100 but we're also gonna nerf everyone down so they'll feel like level 75"
- Moderating forums with more attention than actually fixing game, lest people get nervous. Problem will go away if you suppress it long enough, riiight?
Oh and in that game you can buy yourself a subscription for in-game gold instead of real money.
I hope you have something to respond with. You did good research after all since you're all that loud, right?
You left out the ESO plus issues and getting stuck in Orsinium for an entire DLC cycle on Xbox one.
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jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »You people have no damn idea what you're saying. The biggest MMORPG on the market also charges real money for all these things, but it also has a monthly mandatory subscription fee. You should be a lot more grateful, yet you complain instead. Do a little bit of research before you talk.
If you're referring to WoW, then I don't believe WoW is doing this:- Constantly crashing for mysterious reasons.
- Lagging on PC worse than GTA 4 back in those days.
- Promising players to follow lore and do everything with care and instead roll out bootleg CROWN ONLY "Barber Shop"
- Speaking of Barber Shop, in that game you can change haircut for in-game gold.
- Rolling out two new dungeons for 20$
- Having GMs as non-existent absent spices that few people seen somewhere in Dawn Era and never again since then.
- Having PvP consisting of literally two tactics: either zergballing or screwing up those who zergball.
- Asking 10$ for old haircuts.
- Failing to deliver most of their promises.
- Ignoring game breaking bugs for months.
- Ignoring fact that people adopt engine flaws as part of combat tactics.
- Ignoring any complaints about anything that casuals don't care about.
- Having literally ZERO events ever.
- Lacking anything to do except suffering through Loading Screens in Cyrodiil and grinding bosses in PvE in hopes to get RNG monster set.
- Speaking of doing PvE, in that game you have steady progress towards getting something as you simply collect special tokens for that dungeon instead of doing same dungeon for billion times cause every time game drops you a monster gear piece that you already have and can't sell or trade.
- Not being able to earn most of the mounts for doing special quests or achievements and not sending people to shop for everything.
- Not having various in-game events related to summer time, Easter, winter time and so on. (Quick Note: I don't ask for events that are strictly ripping off IRL. TES universe got plenty of them: Fire Festival, New Life Festival, Heart's Day, First and Second Planting and so on. With all that said ESO has none of TES universe holidays).
- Having to load every single zone instead of having one big, almost seamless world.
- Feeding people with stories how everything is going to be awesome and yet failing to deliver it in time, and later rolling out a bootleg resemblance of what used to be their awesome idea they've been talking on live.
- Lying to people like "We increase level cap to 100 but we're also gonna nerf everyone down so they'll feel like level 75"
- Moderating forums with more attention than actually fixing game, lest people get nervous. Problem will go away if you suppress it long enough, riiight?
Oh and in that game you can buy yourself a subscription for in-game gold instead of real money.
I hope you have something to respond with. You did good research after all since you're all that loud, right?
You left out the ESO plus issues and getting stuck in Orsinium for an entire DLC cycle on Xbox one.
there's one other thing he left out...
if wow is so good why are you wasting your time here?3 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Just avoid the trolls . The argument of leave if you don't like something is non constructive and adds nothing to the conversation . Some are the same posters that say everything in the game is always fine despite even developers posting later something was not fine and they changed it . *buy to play model change* . You're just butting heads with negative people with no positive input or any real ideas to make things better for everyone . They want you to believe they are rich people and you are poor . None of these things have any merit or relevance in this discussion .4 -
Reevster✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Just avoid the trolls . The argument of leave if you don't like something is non constructive and adds nothing to the conversation . Some are the same posters that say everything in the game is always fine despite even developers posting later something was not fine and they changed it . *buy to play model change* . You're just butting heads with negative people with no positive input or any real ideas to make things better for everyone . They want you to believe they are rich people and you are poor . None of these things have any merit or relevance in this discussion .
Ya watch out for the trolls, usually the biggest troll has the most posts in a thread.1 -
natewook✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Just avoid the trolls . The argument of leave if you don't like something is non constructive and adds nothing to the conversation . Some are the same posters that say everything in the game is always fine despite even developers posting later something was not fine and they changed it . *buy to play model change* . You're just butting heads with negative people with no positive input or any real ideas to make things better for everyone . They want you to believe they are rich people and you are poor . None of these things have any merit or relevance in this discussion .
sometimes I'll take subjects to far and ask for an arm, leg and maybe an eye, please be patent with me.
remember this thread people: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/193736/should-eso-turn-up-the-heat-aka-gore-revisited/p1
necromancer? why I've neve- I would never do such a thing! XD2 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »You people have no damn idea what you're saying. The biggest MMORPG on the market also charges real money for all these things, but it also has a monthly mandatory subscription fee. You should be a lot more grateful, yet you complain instead. Do a little bit of research before you talk.
If you're referring to WoW, then I don't believe WoW is doing this:- Constantly crashing for mysterious reasons.
- Lagging on PC worse than GTA 4 back in those days.
- Promising players to follow lore and do everything with care and instead roll out bootleg CROWN ONLY "Barber Shop"
- Speaking of Barber Shop, in that game you can change haircut for in-game gold.
- Rolling out two new dungeons for 20$
- Having GMs as non-existent absent spices that few people seen somewhere in Dawn Era and never again since then.
- Having PvP consisting of literally two tactics: either zergballing or screwing up those who zergball.
- Asking 10$ for old haircuts.
- Failing to deliver most of their promises.
- Ignoring game breaking bugs for months.
- Ignoring fact that people adopt engine flaws as part of combat tactics.
- Ignoring any complaints about anything that casuals don't care about.
- Having literally ZERO events ever.
- Lacking anything to do except suffering through Loading Screens in Cyrodiil and grinding bosses in PvE in hopes to get RNG monster set.
- Speaking of doing PvE, in that game you have steady progress towards getting something as you simply collect special tokens for that dungeon instead of doing same dungeon for billion times cause every time game drops you a monster gear piece that you already have and can't sell or trade.
- Not being able to earn most of the mounts for doing special quests or achievements and not sending people to shop for everything.
- Not having various in-game events related to summer time, Easter, winter time and so on. (Quick Note: I don't ask for events that are strictly ripping off IRL. TES universe got plenty of them: Fire Festival, New Life Festival, Heart's Day, First and Second Planting and so on. With all that said ESO has none of TES universe holidays).
- Having to load every single zone instead of having one big, almost seamless world.
- Feeding people with stories how everything is going to be awesome and yet failing to deliver it in time, and later rolling out a bootleg resemblance of what used to be their awesome idea they've been talking on live.
- Lying to people like "We increase level cap to 100 but we're also gonna nerf everyone down so they'll feel like level 75"
- Moderating forums with more attention than actually fixing game, lest people get nervous. Problem will go away if you suppress it long enough, riiight?
Oh and in that game you can buy yourself a subscription for in-game gold instead of real money.
I hope you have something to respond with. You did good research after all since you're all that loud, right?
You left out the ESO plus issues and getting stuck in Orsinium for an entire DLC cycle on Xbox one.
there's one other thing he left out...
if wow is so good why are you wasting your time here?
I think you took the entire comment out of context....the reference is a point of comparison to "the biggest MMO on the market" which was not specified but assumed as WoW. Not sure if anyone is actually playing WoW tho, it's only being used for cost comparisons.
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AlexWars✭Just saw this, and wanted to give my thoughts. I am one of the many that waited patiently for this feature. And I had hoped that it would not require money outside of the gold currency. HOWEVER- like others said, you do not need these changes to play the game. And for me, I can say I do not need it to play.
At the same time, I hope this does not become a new thing- locking systems behind paywalls. Barber system- okay, I can handle that and I see both sides. Anyway, I wished it was not a crown required thing, but I am not going to smash the Devs for doing that. And with that said, this one system should not stop you from supporting the game. The team has done an amazing job with the game, and they will continue to do so.Edited by AlexWars on 3 August 2016 22:343 -
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✭vamp_emily wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Natetendo83 wrote: »Anybody who knows anything about business and economics knows that the only way for a game like this to stay profitable is to either mandate a monthly fee or monetize things like cosmetics. It's either you pay if you want to change your character or you pay a monthly fee. Pick one.
I'm guessing you don't know anything about business?
Maybe you should step out of the "MMO" sector and look at how some companies make money. You don't have to rip people off or rob them to stay profitable.
but no-one is being ripped off or robbed. the prices aren't hidden and you aren't being forced to buy anything.
and zos.... we are with you
You still don't get it. I'm assuming you never will.
getting it and agreeing with it are two very different things...
Well i don't know how everyone else feels but the people that bought crowns last week or even just a few days ago but i feel they got ripped because the crowns are on sale now. I know u can boost your ego and say "well they seen the price" .. bla bla bla.
Have a good life.
So if you go to the grocery store and purchase a bag of chips for $1.99 and a week later they go on sale for $99, you feel ripped off too?
That doesn't make a lot of sense you know. It's not like the put them on sale this week just so that you would be upset.0
