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Re: After the recent restructuring at ZOS, I'm worried for ESO's future.
2025 has just been one of the worst years ever, for everyone.
This is what I want, I really, really want !!!
Console players have had their biggest wish granted. They can now use mods.
My biggest wish for the PC version is in-game voice chat.
I WANT IN-GAME VOICE CHAT ON THE PC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My biggest wish for the PC version is in-game voice chat.
I WANT IN-GAME VOICE CHAT ON THE PC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uazole2
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Re: Pure Classes feel neglected
tomofhyrule wrote: »I have some StreamTeam friends who tested an early build of Subclassing and were able to talk to the devs about it. They said that one of the common things people told the devs after trying it was "it's fun, but we don't like that is really makes pure class builds underpowered compared to Subclassed builds," and the devs' responce was "wait, you think people would willingly not do Subclassing?"
From the same people that said: ''If you don't like pets, just swap out the skill line''.
The same people that changed Puncturing Strikes to use a Vampire themed ''spear'' design that isn't even used by the other Aedric Spear skills.
The same people that took almost 2 years to address the Grim Focus ''permaglow'' issue.
Imagine thinking that some players would like to keep playing the Class they selected at character creation and not suck. I'm sure that everyone who created their characters back in 2014 was just patiently waiting the last decade for Subclassing, not a single one of them wants to remain ''Pure Class'' after 10 years right?
What does RPG even stands for anyways?
Alaztor91
21
Endeavor language is inconsistent and weird
"Heal 60000 Amount" does not sound like good English to me. "Amount" is not a unit of health. It's not really a unit of anything. I'd like 3 amount, please.
The capitalization is also rather odd. They want us to update an "Outfit," which is a thing in the game so I suppose it could be a proper noun. But they want us to do it 1 "Time," which is a bit of a stretch. Meanwhile, they refer to something as an "Enchanting table," so Enchanting is a proper noun but an Enchanting Table is not? Feels weird, I tell you.
Re: Why are they always against fun and powercreep in an mmorpg?
I mean, nerfs and adjustments are one thing... but the part I think a lot of us can't stand is they were all excited about it one patch ago. Just weeks ago. They stated they were happy with the level of power being added. Despite tons of reasonable PTS feedback. And now it's just shocking and totally unintended that people are creating some powerful builds apparently.
It's like they hold a lottery and a different person takes over the combat changes every cycle.
It's like they hold a lottery and a different person takes over the combat changes every cycle.
Re: Golden Pursuit: Scribing For All
Thanks for writing all that out 
I agree with the issues. Because I obtained scribing with the chapter and completed the quests already, I am locked out of seven of the pursuits. It would have been nice if it was acknowledged and these pursuits had auto completed although I don't know if that would have been possible.
As it is now I am on PC EU and I can't stay logged in for more than a couple of minutes because I keep getting kicked out when the game has crashed
I appreciate your efforts because I can't get to read all the pursuits in game.
I agree with the issues. Because I obtained scribing with the chapter and completed the quests already, I am locked out of seven of the pursuits. It would have been nice if it was acknowledged and these pursuits had auto completed although I don't know if that would have been possible.
As it is now I am on PC EU and I can't stay logged in for more than a couple of minutes because I keep getting kicked out when the game has crashed
I appreciate your efforts because I can't get to read all the pursuits in game.
Buffy121
5
Re: Pure Classes feel neglected
Pureclasses are neglected. An a lot of this is the fact that the devs can't imagine that people would want to stay pure.
I have some StreamTeam friends who tested an early build of Subclassing and were able to talk to the devs about it. They said that one of the common things people told the devs after trying it was "it's fun, but we don't like that is really makes pure class builds underpowered compared to Subclassed builds," and the devs' responce was "wait, you think people would willingly not do Subclassing?"
And as we see, nerfing individual skills or skill lines because they're OP when Subclassed directly means that players who use those lines without subclassing are just getting handed nerf after nerf.
What they need to do is give power back to pureclass builds. There are a few ways to do that, but any way will not be popular, especially for people who do like Subclassing
Adjusting the passives is probably the best option, but the hardest. The solution I favor would be changing every Class passive to a three-step version instead of two steps like they have now... but make it so you can only buy the steps that match the number of other lines that match the Class - so a pure DK can buy the 3rd level for all passives, but a fully subclassed character can only buy the first level of each passive. That would cut the power of the lines people are taking purely for passives, but also give the power back to pure builds.
Also we've seen enough nerfs in the past few patches to just say that the third level of the passive could just be the unnerfed versions.
I have some StreamTeam friends who tested an early build of Subclassing and were able to talk to the devs about it. They said that one of the common things people told the devs after trying it was "it's fun, but we don't like that is really makes pure class builds underpowered compared to Subclassed builds," and the devs' responce was "wait, you think people would willingly not do Subclassing?"
And as we see, nerfing individual skills or skill lines because they're OP when Subclassed directly means that players who use those lines without subclassing are just getting handed nerf after nerf.
What they need to do is give power back to pureclass builds. There are a few ways to do that, but any way will not be popular, especially for people who do like Subclassing
- Give a unique bonus of X% to damage/healing/resists/etc. for every class line a character has that matches their base Class
- Reduce damage/healing/resists/etc. by X% for every Subclass line taken
- Adjust passives on each of the lines to require slotting or even using skills of that line
Adjusting the passives is probably the best option, but the hardest. The solution I favor would be changing every Class passive to a three-step version instead of two steps like they have now... but make it so you can only buy the steps that match the number of other lines that match the Class - so a pure DK can buy the 3rd level for all passives, but a fully subclassed character can only buy the first level of each passive. That would cut the power of the lines people are taking purely for passives, but also give the power back to pure builds.
Also we've seen enough nerfs in the past few patches to just say that the third level of the passive could just be the unnerfed versions.
tomofhyrule
25
Re: Golden pursuit - quests
Well, I know that; but it's still 6/26 pursuits that are locked behind long content that no one has any incentive to play again.
You also say that every player should have to complete the same number of tasks to earn the GP rewards during the course and duration of the GP. <-- I don't agree. Nobody said that, and I fail to see why it should always be the case.
That's just an opinion, as right as my post is nothing but an opinion as well.
You are entitled to have your own opinion, of course, so I won't argue it's validity or lack thereof.
So, while a lot of stuff you said are indeed correct, I still think those should have been auto-completed.
You also say that every player should have to complete the same number of tasks to earn the GP rewards during the course and duration of the GP. <-- I don't agree. Nobody said that, and I fail to see why it should always be the case.
That's just an opinion, as right as my post is nothing but an opinion as well.
You are entitled to have your own opinion, of course, so I won't argue it's validity or lack thereof.
So, while a lot of stuff you said are indeed correct, I still think those should have been auto-completed.
Re: This is what I want, I really, really want !!!
The devs have straight up said that they don't intend to do that because 1) those tools already exist on PC (aka Discord) and 2) those external tools are better than anything that ZOS would put in.
Also, logically, who would use it? Most people who need VC have used Discord/Teamspeak for 11 years, so they're not going to switch to an inferior version because ZOS made it. That means the only people who use it would be the people who refuse to use Discord... which wouldn't be many people in the playerbase.
And do we really want ZOS to waste development time on something that barely anyone's gonna use?
Also, logically, who would use it? Most people who need VC have used Discord/Teamspeak for 11 years, so they're not going to switch to an inferior version because ZOS made it. That means the only people who use it would be the people who refuse to use Discord... which wouldn't be many people in the playerbase.
And do we really want ZOS to waste development time on something that barely anyone's gonna use?
tomofhyrule
10
Why are they always against fun and powercreep in an mmorpg?
Like one of the main points of progressing and leveling up in an mmorpg is to be more powerful overtime, and enjoy that powercreep with older content. All this constant nerfing is just not fun, and really kills the enjoyment of the game, and is definitely not play how you want.
Alot of these changes dont even make sense, you have nerfs one update and buffs another that go back and forth that just confuses and pisses off players with the constant changes for no reason, not to mention the ever growing graveyard of sets. There is a serious disconnect with what players are actually doing, and trying to optimize against a spreadsheet, and making everything bland. it really feels like eventually we'll just be left with something hollow like vengence pve, where we have 8 classes and 3 roles to choose from, all so that spreadsheet can be optimized, but insanely boring.
Players dont want damage sponge bosses for the sake of prolonging a fight, or invuln phases where nothing is happening. Players want to play and experience interesting and challenging mechanics. like how many players never get to experience interesting mechanics like bahsei hm which is a 4 year old trial, and lose out on experiencing that interesting fight?
The developers are always trying to target that top 0.1% of players that are coordinated and optimized enough to just skip through certain mechanics, but it is such an incredibly small # of players that these nerfs probably wont affect them much anyways, but has huge dampening effect on the remaining playerbase which makes the game less fun.
Like players getting a trifecta, who cares if they do it fast? thats the whole point of the leaderboard where they compete with other teams. Why stop players from optimizing? it's like people who speedrun games, are you going to totally update and change your game to make speedrunners take longer that has a negative effect on 99% of your players? or let them speedrun and compete amonst themselves? It's like they have some irrational hate against player skill, and want to keep it artificially dumbed down for some reason.
Alot of these changes dont even make sense, you have nerfs one update and buffs another that go back and forth that just confuses and pisses off players with the constant changes for no reason, not to mention the ever growing graveyard of sets. There is a serious disconnect with what players are actually doing, and trying to optimize against a spreadsheet, and making everything bland. it really feels like eventually we'll just be left with something hollow like vengence pve, where we have 8 classes and 3 roles to choose from, all so that spreadsheet can be optimized, but insanely boring.
Players dont want damage sponge bosses for the sake of prolonging a fight, or invuln phases where nothing is happening. Players want to play and experience interesting and challenging mechanics. like how many players never get to experience interesting mechanics like bahsei hm which is a 4 year old trial, and lose out on experiencing that interesting fight?
The developers are always trying to target that top 0.1% of players that are coordinated and optimized enough to just skip through certain mechanics, but it is such an incredibly small # of players that these nerfs probably wont affect them much anyways, but has huge dampening effect on the remaining playerbase which makes the game less fun.
Like players getting a trifecta, who cares if they do it fast? thats the whole point of the leaderboard where they compete with other teams. Why stop players from optimizing? it's like people who speedrun games, are you going to totally update and change your game to make speedrunners take longer that has a negative effect on 99% of your players? or let them speedrun and compete amonst themselves? It's like they have some irrational hate against player skill, and want to keep it artificially dumbed down for some reason.