If you have an assistant, when your companion dies summon an assistant then dismiss them and usually the companion is resummoned alive.

SneaK wrote: »

Categorize class lines and limit one per category.

Just like the wikis, or in game, each class has 3 skill lines. Typically the first in line is more dmg based, second is hybrid’ish, third is more healish, afaik.

Basically, pick one from each category but not two of the same.

define the sorc skill lines for me then.

i'll wait.

MincMincMinc wrote: »

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Stamicka wrote: »

Beyond that, this is PvP we are talking about. With ESO’s customization, 2 players can be fully geared out at max level and 1 of those players can literally have double the raw power of the other person. There’s so many situations where one build is simply better than another without any tradeoffs at all.

If someone is serious about fair PvP, why would they put up with that? Truly competitive players or pvpers want to win or lose based on skill, otherwise they’ll quit for more skill based games. The lack of balance and the level at which you can outbuild someone keeps ESO unappealing to many of the people who enjoy PvP games.

Some level of build customization in ESO is fine. With sets and skill lines so wildly out of balance with each other though, it’s become a huge issue, both for accessibility and skill expression.

There’s definitely a vocal group of ESO “pvpers” that must love farming players with builds that can’t compete. If you really deserve to be getting kills, you’ll do just fine on more equal footing.

We clearly have very different ideas of what makes someone good at the game, and that's OK. Fortunately for you, it seems the devs agree with yours and don't agree with mine.

IMO, if someone is serious about PvP, they shouldn't shy away from investing the time and resources to take full advantage of ESO's complex builds. Knowing how to theorycraft and leverage an effective setup is part of what makes someone skilled at the game. If one person is CP 3000 with all stickers learned, tens of millions of gold/AP earned, tens of thousands of raw mats hoarded, and thousands of hours of practice, I don't think it's unreasonable for that to represent a material advantage when they fight a CP 140 who just started the game a month prior. What's wrong with asking a new player to put in some time and effort and earn their power?

If a player is so clever and so "skilled" as you say, then they why do need to crutch on having more resources? The answer is simple. They don't. They just enjoy deleting noobs without fear of ever losing. There is nothing "truly competitive" about that at all. It's more about being indignant that a new player can have the same amount of resources without having to run those dungeons or dig up those leads.

Hard to delete noobs, when they don't even participate anymore lol. Cyro has skewed so far in favor of organized groups that we only see noobs and people learning in bgs. Which we shouldn't even see.....but the MMR system resets and keeps pairing up 10year veteran pvpers against cp160 fresh off the boat players. Even the past MyM events have hardly brought in people to try pvp. I only saw a handful of questers this MyM too when normally there used to be hundreds. Its so bad I can count the number of hatetells with one hand.

To be fair the hard part isnt putting in the work. It takes less than an hour to go pickup RallyingCry and then craft stuhns or orders wrath and be 90% the way there. Most people have some monster set they can fill in and even the basic mythics like markyn or DDF will do fine.

The real hard part is learning all of the tips and tricks that are necessary in pvp, like simple get up and go tricks like needing all impen. Jewels of misrule. Which skillines are efficient like Assassin, animal, stormcalling. Which traits and enchants frontbar and backbar. How to rebind your cc break.

Take a new player without any prior knowledge and toss em into greyhost......how do we seriously expect their pvp experience to be? Its 2025 and we still see people asking how to leave cyrodil from time to time.

I do agree this is more of an issue than the material advantage players accumulate through CP or grinding. In particular the tiny replacement pool of future PvP players to replace those who will eventually leave.

I don;t think that enough players get this. It might be fun to play in an environment that has such a high skill level requirement or having access to powerful things that newer players lack, but it's going to necessarily mean a niche setting where only a dedicated few are going to have fun and play. Perhaps that's ultimately what some folks want, but ESO is a product that requires labor, development, and resources to maintain and improve, and those are not going to be made available if Cyrodiil is a ghost town.

You're absolutely right that most new players joining GH are not going to have the sort of experience to come back, let alone be motivated to do any sort of loop grind. Cyrodiil was not always like this.

I've been playing since closed beta. So I've seen all yearly updates, the chapters, the trials, the dungeon packs and events.

My overall take on this year is one of trimming down the game, cost savings and getting away with as little as possible without shedding too many players.

You no longer do the incredible trailers that we were all mesmerised by, probably because of the cost, but also because there is really little to advertise in them. You have lost a lot of staff and are now run by one of the largest corps in the world who literally only care about shareholder dividends and boy does it show.

This perpetual, "there is more coming, but we can't talk about it," is so old now that it's not even worth your time writing.

If you want to maintain interest in your game, you have to give the players something to look forward to, something to get excited about. Where is the 2026 roadmap?

Why can't you talk about what you are working on? Is it because you are so uncertain of whether it will actually happen that you don't want to promise something you can't deliver? If so, why are you so uncertain if it will happen? Doesn't this point to a lack of direction, a lack of funding, a lack of imagination?

If you have big plans for 2026, then TELL US NOW what they are. We are not asking for specific dates, just tell us what you're doing so we know there is a point to maintaining our investment in this game and not moving over to another that tells their community what they are doing.

To me the game still has enormous scope for content, there are so many areas of Tamriel that are untouched, so many former themes from the other Bethesda games that are ignored, so many suggestions and QoL ideas from your awesome community and yet we see very little actually being announced. Goodwill will only take you so far.

I concur with a lot of the issues above. We have been hearing some variation of “we have cool things coming in the future, we’ll tell you later!” for quite a while now, and it’s getting a lot harder to ride the hype train on promises of surprise alone… especially when so many surprise reveals lately have fallen very short of expectations.

I hope the team considers that a January reveal event will be a good idea this year, and that they actually reveal something we can be excited about, even if it’s something that will release later. I keep thinking back to the Necrom reveal where we were introduced to the Arcanist Class - it wasn’t dropping until June, but the prospect of a new Class alone was so exciting, and the devs were talking about some of the skills and you could feel the excitement coming through the screen. It was all I could think of for months. That reveal alone sold me the Chapter and I preordered it instantly.
Compare to the January reveal event this year, and we got “but the new Season Pass! But we’re not telling you what’s in it until April!” And then we find out the new ‘feature’ is basegame so our purchase didn’t even get us anything beyond one more zone…

After the disappointments of “a housing feature!” (which was just half of an addon PC has instead of the increased limits people are desperately begging for), and “a PvP feature!” (which was replacing the unpopular BGs with a differently unpopular version while not touching Cyrodiil), and then the infamous letter, and then the new transition year which is leaving players wanting… I really hope that we get information of something more concrete to look forward to, and soon.

We all have our personal thing we’re desperately hoping for (mine is that I will buy the next pass sight unseen if we’re getting a new Class), but the anticipation is making us all antsy. And the more we’re given leave to speculate and hype ourselves up, the harder we end up falling when what we get doesn’t live up to the hype.

Punches_Below_Belt wrote: »

How can they not understand that unless we get a paycheck from ZOS, we don’t care what the corporate structure is, what their job title is, what their job responsibilities are? We didn’t tune in for a LinkedIn round table.

If your position is relevant to why you are avoiding answering my questions and not fixing the QoL issues by all means slip it in. Otherwise, give me information I need or want to play the game.

I’m also kind of sick of the reveal/not a reveal game. If we cared about spoilers we wouldn’t be tuning in. Why would I want to watch you run around for half an hour trying to avoid spoilers?

They always seem more interested in entertaining each other than answering questions . I’m also always secondhand embarrassed by how badly they play their own game.

Some things I did learn today that I had always suspected. The second half of Solstice is no more interesting than the first.half. The “season pass” was a shrinkflation cash grab and they weren’t going to reveal it until as late as possible i.e. this stream. “This is a transition year” How about you transition twenty dollars back into my account? They think recycling assets, call backs and milking played out aspects of the game are fooling the players and a positive experience that they can continue to ride for another twenty years.

Perfectly stated. My growing list of friends that never log in also agree.

I stopped watching their live streams after the PvP Q&A when they answered only easy, silly questions. Difficult questions are never addressed and the reveals give no meaningful tidbits or sneak peaks. It gives the impression that ZOS cares only about new players and does not have a desire to retain older players.

This game is hemorrhaging "old" players and with them goes vast amounts of information. PvP is in the worst state since I've played ESO and don't even get a bone. Vengeance tests do not count - that was the reason for the seasons, so experiments can happen. That shouldn't mean nothing else happens, particularly with these long-standing and game-breaking bugs.

I would like to remind @ZOS_Kevin that players are desperate for change. They want to be engaged, feel listened to (not heard), and to feel like game development is making progress. Several patches now have gone in the complete opposite direction - how long are we supposed to wait for positives? People complain because they love the game. Those that don't just disappear without a trace.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Update 48 will be a bit lighter on changes but that's because of all the stuff coming next year. Next year will have cool stuff.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twelve years running, …Seriously, there is cool stuff every year, just really disappointed at a price hike and a big reduction in cool stuff this year.

AD. I like bows, so I usually play bosmers and prefer to stay with the lore. Also, Queen Ayrenn.

I am AD. Because that was a new exciting area to explore when ESO first came out. And I found that I like the southern lands. And I like the colour yellow as well.

In Cyro I only have AD chars. It has become kind of a loyalty thing. Though some take this game a bit too serious (Cyro anyone...)

I don’t know ZOS capacity but I hope they aren’t piling too many resources into the vengeance testing stuff. Not many PvPers want to play in a dumbed down environment. It’d be much better to focus on creating a healthy balance to Cyrodiil without subtracting from the game or people’s investment to it.