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Re: Please bring back lightning staff HA cleave.
CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »there is a LOT more in this game than just PvP and Leaderboards.
This is the key take away for those people that advocate for the competitiveness of HA one bar builds. Just because you can’t dps or complete vet content or PvP does not mean that you cannot enjoy eso. In life you’re not always going to be able to do everything. You just have to get in where you fit in and take it from there. People need to work with what they have instead of expecting the whole game to be watered down in order to accommodate a very tiny minority(those with disabilities), of which I am a part of.
Re: Is copying over live characters necessary for the test process?
Because this case is not about your testing. It's about their (i.e., ZOS's) testing.
Here is my vantage. If you must test with your character, then are you not actually testing your character's ability to do the content rather than testing the content itself? If your character cannot smoothly do the content, then you decide the content is bad and if they can do it easily, you decide, the content is easy . . .
By having a new character with all the options, one can test low to high end levels, various gear levels and group to solo relatability without making it a personal campaign.
Suggesting that the server needs characters from the live game doesn't make sense to me. How does it matter?
Their statement is that they needed to test something related to crossplay. SInce crossplay involves involves interaction between characters from different servers, it seems plausible that whatever they're testing might involve the character database from a particular server. I don't know the specifics of what they're testing, and it's unlikely that they'll ever disclose that, but the point is, this copy is about a test that they want to conduct that is unrelated to whatever it is that you were wanting to test on the PTS.
If you do not know what I am wanting to test, how can you know if it is unrelated?
Well, unless you were doing your own crossplay tests- I think they are saying it is highly unlikely your own testing would have worked to test the thing they did the NA character transfer for.
Wuuffyy
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Re: A friend of mine got censored on ESO Steam Forum by ZOS dev team. And it's unacceptable.
Greetings,
With this thread mainly discussing disciplinary actions which is against the Forum Rules, we're going to go ahead and close it down. We suggest working with support to appeal this decision and find information on why an action was made on the account.
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ZOS_Icy
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Re: They should make an ESO Lite version of ESO+
I don't see them adding lite versions of eso+ since it's likely making them plenty of income as it is.
Sure the craft bag is a major feature, but ESO+ is more than just the craft bag and dlc access.
In addition to the previous perks, there are also a lot of newer eso+ perks that boost the Tamriel Tomes (both free and paid levels).
If they spend time on anything, it will probably be to better advertise the actual perks of eso+, not creating a lite version.
I came here to write pretty much this.
Re: An addition to the game i actually like
Second only to the original starfield. I would love a snow version too.
Yes, please give as snow.
Re: Is U50's 200k+ DPS Ceiling Healthy for the Long-Term State of the Game?
Well, I think we agree on the concept of raising the floor, but I guess you're missing the point. Allowing new players to complete the hardest content by just giving them "free" power ends up killing most of the game, which doesn't even need this insane amount of base DPS.
Trust, I understand. I was doing Vet Challenge progression post-morrowind on a MagDen since that expansion released. Never managed to get into the game after beta myself, but I get it. The challenges can be difficult to do, and it's a great feeling to get those achievement after pushing for them for so long. But you need to keep in mind what state the environment is in for people. Some folks have less time to play in a day, some folks have physical limitations, situations that prevent them from becoming so good in a game that DPS comes casually, or a lack of game knowledge, or heck, just a lack of luck on farm.
The bigger issue is: which dummy are you testing DPS on? Trial Dummy? Don't do that. It's unrealistic, and buffs you up with numbers you aren't going to see in normal play most of the time. If you compare a Trial dummy vs. a 1m or 3m health dummy you'll notice that the trial dummy just pumps your number up by about 20% (give or take) because of the simulated buffs it gives you. This is also a "Long-Term high skill players are testing against dummies and thinking it means that everyone can achieve the numbers they are." situation.
My take? Play a Healer. Go through some Vet dungeons and watch. Watch as most of the players you come across don't keep up in damage. How they fumble and wander, ignoring mechanics no matter how many times you do them. It may help you understand why upping the floor isn't going to be the worst thing when you go through a vanilla Vet dungeon with a CP1900 that can't even hit 10k dps.
Kalthea
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Re: Is U50's 200k+ DPS Ceiling Healthy for the Long-Term State of the Game?
Its more fallout from the broken Subclass system. Its not good at all for the future of the game in any way. They need to institute a dps cap at this point. People are already having to completely stop dps in Trials. The idea was to give us more power. If the game has to be made harder because there are no rules drawbacks and limitations to dps, then we are even more behind than when this train wreck started in the first place. No one should be able to cause that much dps. No one.
Ive said it many times, Subclassing is a broken cherry picking system. It can not and will not ever be balanced. The sooner it is eliminated, the sooner they can start instituting rules to get the out of control combat under control. And have more than 1 meta. And have new actual classes instead of broken exploits by blender builds. Seeing things like this new Mythic and this kind of damage makes my Guilds want to find another game. Everything thing that's happened with combat since U46 makes me want to listening to them.
Ive said it many times, Subclassing is a broken cherry picking system. It can not and will not ever be balanced. The sooner it is eliminated, the sooner they can start instituting rules to get the out of control combat under control. And have more than 1 meta. And have new actual classes instead of broken exploits by blender builds. Seeing things like this new Mythic and this kind of damage makes my Guilds want to find another game. Everything thing that's happened with combat since U46 makes me want to listening to them.
Is U50's 200k+ DPS Ceiling Healthy for the Long-Term State of the Game?
Hi everyone,
With Update 50 just around the corner, we are already seeing some absolutely mind-blowing parse numbers, with top-tier players pushing past the 200k+ DPS mark. While the mechanical skill required to hit these numbers is massive and near perfection, I would like to propose a discussion about the current state of power creep and how it aligns with the game's core design.
For a long time, we've heard the mentions to the philosophy of "raising the floor and lowering the ceiling". I completely understand the intent behind this: it’s not necessarily about flat-out nerf hammers, but about improving accessibility so that average players can reach decent, viable DPS numbers more easily.
But looking at the current state of the game, I have to ask: At what point does this philosophy become predatory toward the game's own content? Does the game actually need players pulling 200k+ DPS?
Before the common counterargument comes up: Yes, I know that 200k is achieved by a very small percentage of the player base, and the average casual player isn't hitting anything near that.
However, power creep always trickles down.
When the absolute ceiling shifts to 200k, the "middle tier" easily shifts to 100k+, and 100k DPS is already more than enough to completely melt almost any Veteran DLC dungeon boss, bypassing mechanics entirely. Content that was once designed to be highly engaging, challenging, and tactical is being turned into a completely casual breeze.
We can already see the dramatic consequences of this when comparing base game content to newer DLCs. There is a massive, jarring disconnect in difficulty. Base game Veteran dungeons have become an absolute joke where bosses die in seconds, while newer DLC dungeons feel like they have to be specifically tuned around this absurd damage inflation just to survive for more than a minute. This artificial split shows that the game is struggling to balance its past with its present.
The sense of progression and achievement is actively fading. Trials and dungeons lose their identity when groups can just brute-force through phases that were originally meant to test coordination, positioning, and survival. Instead of learning the fights, we are just exploding them.
If the "floor" keeps rising to meet a "ceiling" that is actually skyrocketing rather than lowering, where do we go from here? Will future content have to be balanced around these astronomical numbers, creating an even wider barrier to entry for newer players? Or will older content just be left to become completely trivialized by raw stat inflation?
I’d love to hear your thoughts, especially from those who have watched the combat meta evolve over the years. Is this level of power creep sustainable, or has the pursuit of accessibility inadvertently broken the game's challenge?
With Update 50 just around the corner, we are already seeing some absolutely mind-blowing parse numbers, with top-tier players pushing past the 200k+ DPS mark. While the mechanical skill required to hit these numbers is massive and near perfection, I would like to propose a discussion about the current state of power creep and how it aligns with the game's core design.
For a long time, we've heard the mentions to the philosophy of "raising the floor and lowering the ceiling". I completely understand the intent behind this: it’s not necessarily about flat-out nerf hammers, but about improving accessibility so that average players can reach decent, viable DPS numbers more easily.
But looking at the current state of the game, I have to ask: At what point does this philosophy become predatory toward the game's own content? Does the game actually need players pulling 200k+ DPS?
Before the common counterargument comes up: Yes, I know that 200k is achieved by a very small percentage of the player base, and the average casual player isn't hitting anything near that.
However, power creep always trickles down.
When the absolute ceiling shifts to 200k, the "middle tier" easily shifts to 100k+, and 100k DPS is already more than enough to completely melt almost any Veteran DLC dungeon boss, bypassing mechanics entirely. Content that was once designed to be highly engaging, challenging, and tactical is being turned into a completely casual breeze.
We can already see the dramatic consequences of this when comparing base game content to newer DLCs. There is a massive, jarring disconnect in difficulty. Base game Veteran dungeons have become an absolute joke where bosses die in seconds, while newer DLC dungeons feel like they have to be specifically tuned around this absurd damage inflation just to survive for more than a minute. This artificial split shows that the game is struggling to balance its past with its present.
The sense of progression and achievement is actively fading. Trials and dungeons lose their identity when groups can just brute-force through phases that were originally meant to test coordination, positioning, and survival. Instead of learning the fights, we are just exploding them.
If the "floor" keeps rising to meet a "ceiling" that is actually skyrocketing rather than lowering, where do we go from here? Will future content have to be balanced around these astronomical numbers, creating an even wider barrier to entry for newer players? Or will older content just be left to become completely trivialized by raw stat inflation?
I’d love to hear your thoughts, especially from those who have watched the combat meta evolve over the years. Is this level of power creep sustainable, or has the pursuit of accessibility inadvertently broken the game's challenge?
erickhwk
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Re: Is U50's 200k+ DPS Ceiling Healthy for the Long-Term State of the Game?
No.
And everytime I see some YouTubers talk about how nice it is to see XY enable another 20k and how that will help with diversity I just want to bang my head into my desk.
People with "nerf=bad, buff=fun-mentality" are a burden on society.
And everytime I see some YouTubers talk about how nice it is to see XY enable another 20k and how that will help with diversity I just want to bang my head into my desk.
People with "nerf=bad, buff=fun-mentality" are a burden on society.
Vaqual
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