Greetings,

After review, we have decided to close this thread, as it has run its course.

Regards,
-Greg-

Leyawiin is awesome, but i prefer Skingrad.
Skingrad's writ boxes are inside the crafting area.

it would be awesome if New Life boxes dropped themed furnishings like Jubilee!

About the dialogue not fitting the setting of the story and characters, it really shouldn't matter who the writer is or what their age bracket is if they just consider role-play to be the core part of the experience. The problem I see today in ESO is a lot of resorting to out-of-place comedy relief to fill out dialogue which breaks the sense of role-play.

The encounters with NPCs getting themselves killed by poking the local monsters/wildlife is waaaaaaay overdone and started back in Blackwood I believe. The writer probably thought it would be funny, and it would be fine as a one-zone thing but every single update since has had some variation of that joke and it just makes it look like the world of Tamriel is not being taken seriously. The NPCs all lack a sense of self-preservation for one thing, but the ones that can survive then have the mildest of reactions to just having been swallowed whole or nearly being incinerated.

The most well-crafted overland encounters are older ones like Choixth, which actually plays out like a story over two zones, but it fits the world and everything going on within it. T encounter with Briggan the Lost in Deadlands was a nice touch though since it was actually connected to events that played out in City of Ash if you had played through that story. These are the kind of things that fit Elder Scrolls' style of role-play.

ESO team pls make a new poster like this that includes the famous/prominent enemies from ESO

Tariq9898 wrote: »

It doesn’t seem common based on recent writing not just in games, but in other media as well. If anything, it’s starting to feel the opposite. But that could just be me. As for your first paragraph, much of that depends heavily on the country, current climate, both political and societal as well as personal (not just agenda, but what kind of writer they are/aspire to be as well as their personal life experiences). There’s also huge influence from other works too.

What I meant was that people were generally aware of the value that classical literature has for education and personal development - as a way to broaden the horizon, to learn about human nature, etc. It might depend on the country, of course, but where I live, it's a normal part of the school curriculum from elementary school on. Perhaps the focus was even bigger a few generations ago; at least I knew several elderly people who grew up very rurally and only received minimum education since they were supposed to inherit their family's farm anyway, but even they had read classical works at school and knew the Odyssey, the Iliad, the Song of the Nibelungs, and so on. It's also still very common to learn Latin or Ancient Greek here. It's basically impossible here to finish school without having read literature from all eras.

Which is also the reason the banality of the current ESO writing leaves me a little perplexed - surely these people must have read narrations beyond mass entertainment novels from the past decade, fanfiction and memes before, especially if they chose to become writers for a living (which, I'd assume, people do out of love for literature - it's not a job typically chosen out of financial interest alone, after all)? So why do the stories feel so uninspired then?

Tariq9898 wrote: »

But why? I think much of it is an attempt to make characters, especially villains relatable.

But to be relatable, they don't need to exact copies of the current modern world. People can read the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Metamorphoses of Ovid, or Tristan and Iseult today and still relate with many of the characters, despite these stories having a completely different setting compared to whichever 21st century western society.

Tariq9898 wrote: »

But anyways, with this nuanced writing often comes with adding in personal life experiences and views. Mainly because it’s a gateway to making a character relatable. Statistically speaking, one person’s struggle-whether it’s environmental, political, gender, health-is something many (maybe millions?) can relate to, given there are billions of us. This in turn, can lead to modern day sentiments in storytelling. Which I agree isn’t best for Elder Scrolls.

But why aren't they aware that their personal struggles as a 20/30-something 21st century western human citydweller might just not fit into a story about feudal-Asia-inspired elves living under the rule of three powerful godkings (or tree-venerating tribal lizard people living in swamps, or cannibalistic forest-dwelling miniature elves,...) in a pseudo-medieval, magic world threatened by dragons, demonic forces, pestilence and war?

Sometimes it almost feels like some people today revolve around their own personal issues so much they can't barely comprehend that other people might live (or have lived) a completely different life (especially in other cultures and eras) where none of that matters.

AScarlato wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

This also really makes it so "bad guys" are irredeemable and are clownishly over-the-top evil while the "good guys" are paragons of light and virtue, so there's no nuance anymore. The shades of grey is what makes stories like this interesting.

I guess it depends on the game. Over in XIV we are presently discussing how all of the villains are actually just misunderstood and there are no outright evil characters lately, and how that is also boring at this point.

Too much of one thing becomes boring. Sometimes it's nice to just have an evil enemy whose evil for the sake of being evil but we're not getting compelling narratives in general right now. Sure, the last "grey villain" situation was last year... where they

Before every body runs of shooting rockets or try to save their poor pet from the big scare which is New Years Eve, have a happy New Year everybody and thanks for the year that we are now leaving behind!

Orbital78 wrote: »

They both need to be relooked at in most cases. Templar's mastery for example totally relies on you having the healing line.

Honestly, regardless of what people think the answer is to this poll, they're going to HAVE to take a look at redoing the class sets and master scripts as part of the class reworks. I think the class armor sets are slightly stronger expressions of the classes, but to be perfectly honest, neither are what I would consider things that are vital to class identity because none of them truly take what each class does well and amplifies it to the next level, which is what I think the class scripts and armors should do. Most of them are kinda "meh" except for a couple, which are so good they are pretty much broken (charm), but again - none of them are really good expressions of what make a necro a necro, a warden a warden, etc.

In my opinion the writing for this entire expansion (?) could have been better. That said, issues with the romance and RP are subjective. These things will most likely differ from person to person.

I played BG3 and loved it because of the lore, of course, and the romance part if the game.

I just came back from a long break. So absolutely yes, for me personally, I'd love to see romance options introduced.