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Prevent the reign of terror we're about to experience

  • OrderoftheDarkness
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    BohnT2 wrote: »
    BohnT2 wrote: »
    This is all of course fun to read theories crafting, but opinion and the sexual organ are one part of the same whole, the only difference is that we do not shake the organ on the street. So whether you like it or not, as long as Stamcro has a bad kit for its own buffs/debuffs, I don't think devs will remove Defile. If they delete Defile everyone will just use Magcro because Stamcro will not be able to offer anything with its poor set.
    P. S. For the comment above I for example think that Streak is the most powerful ability in the game but...

    Would you please stop putting up one strawman after the other just to derail the post with
    "But sorcs have streak"
    "Stamnecro is dead otherwise"
    "Everyone will play Magnecro"

    Make another post if you want to talk about those things but stop trying to defend your main by pointing at others without providing any constructive argument as to why major defile is healthy for the game

    What can be a constructive argument with you if you pull out of context only what you need. Again, I have already given constructive arguments about the entire kit of Stamcro's own buffs/debuffs. This kit is very poor.

    Well i can't help you to find arguments for your standpoint but maybe there are none if it's so hard for you to come up with one.

    And if you bring up wrong arguments, or ones that fall apart in any reasonable pvp situation or just strawman arguments pointing at another unbalanced ability you simply failed to bring anything to the discussion.

    If you think that bla bla bla this is what was able to destroy my argument, then I dare you to disappoint, you just driven by arrogance. You also continue to ignore the main meaning of my message. In any case, you also continue to pull out of context. You haven't commented on my post. I believe it is normal to have access to Defile on a class that is very poor kit of its own buffs/debuffs.

    Edited by OrderoftheDarkness on February 6, 2020 1:03PM
  • BohnT2
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    BohnT2 wrote: »
    BohnT2 wrote: »
    This is all of course fun to read theories crafting, but opinion and the sexual organ are one part of the same whole, the only difference is that we do not shake the organ on the street. So whether you like it or not, as long as Stamcro has a bad kit for its own buffs/debuffs, I don't think devs will remove Defile. If they delete Defile everyone will just use Magcro because Stamcro will not be able to offer anything with its poor set.
    P. S. For the comment above I for example think that Streak is the most powerful ability in the game but...

    Would you please stop putting up one strawman after the other just to derail the post with
    "But sorcs have streak"
    "Stamnecro is dead otherwise"
    "Everyone will play Magnecro"

    Make another post if you want to talk about those things but stop trying to defend your main by pointing at others without providing any constructive argument as to why major defile is healthy for the game

    What can be a constructive argument with you if you pull out of context only what you need. Again, I have already given constructive arguments about the entire kit of Stamcro's own buffs/debuffs. This kit is very poor.

    Well i can't help you to find arguments for your standpoint but maybe there are none if it's so hard for you to come up with one.

    And if you bring up wrong arguments, or ones that fall apart in any reasonable pvp situation or just strawman arguments pointing at another unbalanced ability you simply failed to bring anything to the discussion.

    If you think that blah blah blah this is what was able to destroy my argument, then I dare you to disappoint, you just driven by arrogance. You also continue to ignore the main meaning of my message. In any case, you also continue to pull out of context. You haven't commented on my post. I believe it is normal to have access to Defile on a class that is very poor kit of its own buffs/debuffs.

    Just to clear this up for one last time.
    Stamnecro's toolkit doesn't lack any relevant buff as you can get access to most of them by skills every good stamnecro will run anyway.

    Momentum takes care of minor endurance and major brutality
    Major fracture can be achieved along with minor protection via ransack
    Stamnecro has access to apply off-balance from dizzying (even if off balance gets nuked next patch)
    Stamnecro also gets access to 1.5k penetration which is better than minor fracture
    Then you get access to major protection with 50% uptime just from the corpses blastbones generate.

    Major protection alone is an extremely powerful buff that takes care of any defensive issues you may have but you don't have them to begin with due to other damage mitigation sources in stamnecro's toolkit.

    And there's even more buffs you can get like
    Major savagery and minor beserk via camouflaged hunter

    Major expedition and minor force via RaT

    Stamnecro has absolutely no lack for buffs or debuffs and now start bringing up actual arguments or leave this discussion.
  • OrderoftheDarkness
    OrderoftheDarkness
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    BohnT2 wrote: »
    BohnT2 wrote: »
    BohnT2 wrote: »
    This is all of course fun to read theories crafting, but opinion and the sexual organ are one part of the same whole, the only difference is that we do not shake the organ on the street. So whether you like it or not, as long as Stamcro has a bad kit for its own buffs/debuffs, I don't think devs will remove Defile. If they delete Defile everyone will just use Magcro because Stamcro will not be able to offer anything with its poor set.
    P. S. For the comment above I for example think that Streak is the most powerful ability in the game but...

    Would you please stop putting up one strawman after the other just to derail the post with
    "But sorcs have streak"
    "Stamnecro is dead otherwise"
    "Everyone will play Magnecro"

    Make another post if you want to talk about those things but stop trying to defend your main by pointing at others without providing any constructive argument as to why major defile is healthy for the game

    What can be a constructive argument with you if you pull out of context only what you need. Again, I have already given constructive arguments about the entire kit of Stamcro's own buffs/debuffs. This kit is very poor.

    Well i can't help you to find arguments for your standpoint but maybe there are none if it's so hard for you to come up with one.

    And if you bring up wrong arguments, or ones that fall apart in any reasonable pvp situation or just strawman arguments pointing at another unbalanced ability you simply failed to bring anything to the discussion.

    If you think that blah blah blah this is what was able to destroy my argument, then I dare you to disappoint, you just driven by arrogance. You also continue to ignore the main meaning of my message. In any case, you also continue to pull out of context. You haven't commented on my post. I believe it is normal to have access to Defile on a class that is very poor kit of its own buffs/debuffs.

    Just to clear this up for one last time.
    Stamnecro's toolkit doesn't lack any relevant buff as you can get access to most of them by skills every good stamnecro will run anyway.

    Momentum takes care of minor endurance and major brutality
    Major fracture can be achieved along with minor protection via ransack
    Stamnecro has access to apply off-balance from dizzying (even if off balance gets nuked next patch)
    Stamnecro also gets access to 1.5k penetration which is better than minor fracture
    Then you get access to major protection with 50% uptime just from the corpses blastbones generate.

    Major protection alone is an extremely powerful buff that takes care of any defensive issues you may have but you don't have them to begin with due to other damage mitigation sources in stamnecro's toolkit.

    And there's even more buffs you can get like
    Major savagery and minor beserk via camouflaged hunter

    Major expedition and minor force via RaT

    Stamnecro has absolutely no lack for buffs or debuffs and now start bringing up actual arguments or leave this discussion.

    From this list, only Major Protection is a tool for Stamcro as a class.
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    ZOS_Volpe
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