Add me to those who are quitting BGs until ZOS adds an ACTUAL CHOICE back in. Right now, they're trolling players who want to play objectives by giving them an illusion of choice, and brute forcing DM on us all. 98-99% DM isn't 'random'. The players who liked variety in their BGs have noticed. The DM only test was bad enough-- but at least ZOS was honest about the fact that Death Match was the only mode available.

Now that the DM only test left the BG population 'in an unhealthy state' ZOS paid lip service to bringing back objective games to sucker the players they alienated into returning, while tinkering with the random Queue to insure that DEATHMATCH is popping for 98-99% of all games. The result is:

• Objective players still don't have their modes back--they're being used as cannon fodder for the DM crowd.
• Those who liked VARIETY in their BGs still don't have their modes back--they're being used to fill bodies for the DM crowd.
• Those who LOVE DM and could do it all day everyday STILL have own own dedicated Q, there is NO REASON why ZOS needs to pull from Random to keep their Q popping if it's really as popular as the devs and certain players want us to believe. It should be more than capable of sustaining on its own--unless the population of hardcore DMers after the changes in recent months is soooo small that they NEED to trick and sucker the rest of us by providing a theoretical Random Q, that in reality mainly functions to backfill for DM.

Separate the Queues. Death Match & Random Objective for solo and group. DMers can slaughter each other to their heart's content, and objective players can finally get their modes back as well. Those who like both modes can still play both. I don't care if the Queue time is longer-- I'm sick of having DM only crammed down my throat and I won't be back to battlegrounds until ZOS fixes what they INTENTIONALLY broke.

Please look at adding custom/private BGs in the future using a preset group of 12. Would open up a lot in terms of potential community events/tournaments.

Am I the only one concerned about them analysing just the "data"? Because frankly, at this point, this is looks like it's going to become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

They are literally setting this up to "well we have conducted analysis and found that people are okay with Deathmatch only" without giving a rat's ass about the fact that the data is going to be biased precisely because they made a lot of people quit BG entirely with the Deathmatch-only change.

Deathmatch players have been ruining the enjoyment for non-DM players for months now and yet were the only ones thrown a bone. Having backlash over that from literally everyone else, they are now analysing data that is a result of majority of non-DM players having completely slinked away from BGs and those who still kept playing in the hope of getting anything else through the random queue being still forced into DM matches 99% of the time on top of a lot of people possibly not even realising they were queueing for DM-only due to that being the default.

Unless they actually take community feedback here into account, all they're going to get is "well the data confirmed that people like Deathmatch only, so we're keeping it as it is!". Because the setup of the testing itself was inherently flawed, and it's impossible to tell from just the data, how many people queued for DM while thinking they were queueing Random, and how many people quit because of the DM being the only mode available...

Really hoping ZOS will prove me wrong on that one, but I wouldn't hold my breath over that.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

First off, thanks to everyone for participating in all the Battlegrounds queue tests over the past few months, including the most recent addition of Deathmatch-only queues over winter break. We were able to gather a lot of data from these tests regarding Battlegrounds participation and ultimately found it did not significantly affect the participation and population, and also took into account the feedback received about the majority of Battleground games being Deathmatch. We did see the suggestions for adding additional queue options and considered those as well, but doing so would splinter the Battlegrounds population too much and would lead to much longer queue times; we want to ensure the healthiest population and player experience. As such, we are making the call to remove the Deathmatch-only queue option.

Starting in Update 33, the default option for Battleground queues will be “Solo Random” and the dropdown selection will have “Group Random”. Remember, the group queue will take solo, duo, trio and full groups of players, but the solo queue will only include players that queued solo. All games modes will be in both of these queues.

This will be the last change we make to Battleground queues for the foreseeable future. Thanks again for partaking in these tests and aiding us in gathering very valuable feedback.

you might be joking?

Give us place where we can fight and don't care about stupid flags or chaos ball.

jaws343 wrote: »

So, the conclusion is that the people who didn't like Deathmatch were a minority even before the tests?

That's not what happened. The problem is that there ended up being two nearly identical queues. One that was 100% Deathmatch, and one that was 95% Deathmatch.

So any increase in participation attributable to a DM-only queue was completely wiped out by the tons of people who just simply quit BG's because the random queue was almost literally nothing but DM. If they don't roll back to what it was before the changes (which they didn't say they would do), you'll see exactly what I mean once you queue for the random queue about 30 times.