I always say hello Actually, during few years only few times I didn't say anything in chat at all - it was yesterday, in battlegrounds. I was too angry after one stupid Capture the Relic match, so next few times I didn't greet people in my groups It felt really weird to me, and nobody said "hi" either... So very soon I started to greet everyone again

It's my only MMO, and I still remember the excitement for the first time when I saw characters around me in Wailing Prison and realized they are controlled by other people!
When I enter the dungeon/battleground, I understand that we might lose or the experience will not be very pleasant, but I always start with "hi all " in chat - I try to show respect and acknowledge presence of other people near me, who all happened to be in same place at same time, and we all will have to try completing some common objective in the game.

Very rarely people are awkward and make me regret greeting them Like very recently, when I said to someone "hi nice outfit!", they didn't greet me back or thanked for compliment, and instead responded "is that sarcasm?" Really low self confidence or something, why else would they think that other person can't find their outfit good-looking enough to compliment
Or the person who, after I greeted them, instead of responding with greetings, tried to insult me in language which I don't know (but I know enough of some words) And with these group-mates I had to play for some time cause we were in same group.

daemonios wrote: »

Vuylstekeara wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Vuylstekeara wrote: »

I usually don't greet in PuGs either. Don't take it personal, it's nothing against you, I just find it unnecessary. What's polite about that if nobody really needs it or cares that much anyway? Get in, do your job, get out, everyone is happy, or could be at least, greeted or not.

There are people on the other side of the Internet. People you're relying on to get your quick run. You say "hi" or "excuse me" or "please" in real life as well, right? Then again, maybe you don't.

For the record: I hate this running. If you want to do the quest, look for chests or whatever, sure, go ahead. I also answer questions or generally react when talked to, but I don't see why I'm am required to type two stupid letters at the start and end just to be "polite". For example you can say "hi" and then start running, pull mobs together and let the rest of your group deal with them while you dash ahead. That's impolite in my books, but has nothing to do with greeting or not. You can still act inconsiderate while adhering to formalities like hello and thank you.

Pro tip: try saying "Hi everyone. Could you take it easy please, as I don't like facerolling dungeons and skipping content?" sometime. You'll be surprised how many groups will be happy to oblige. I cannot for the life of me see how you're going to solve your problem by being rude.

I don't get why people think not interacting is rude, it is as neutral as neutral gets. Making demands on how to run the dungeon on the other hand might be see as rude, most people will play along, some won't. And I don't have a problem with that, I don't expect anything from a PuG. It's nice if it's a smooth run and if not, I live with it, there is no problem that needs solving.
Can we simply agree to disagree on what's rude behaviour and maybe you don't feel affronted next time you are not greeted because there is no insult intended.

DLM wrote: »

When you queue for a dungeon and end up with 3 other persons, as much at it may be surprising they are not bots. When someone says "hi", "hey" or whatever, the least of courtesy is greeting back.

My go-to is

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Tonnopesce wrote: »

I always write
"Hello There"
hoping that someone knows the proper way to answer, very few times happened...

DLM wrote: »

When you queue for a dungeon and end up with 3 other persons, as much at it may be surprising they are not bots. When someone says "hi", "hey" or whatever, the least of courtesy is greeting back.

I remember making the same mistake as you, expecting basic social skills from others in a video game. Heh, we are naive.

I wonder why people even care to play a multiplayer game if they can't even say "Hi".

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

MiyukiShiba wrote: »

Sounds like my visits to Whole Foods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UFc1pr2yUU

tonemd wrote: »

Extroverts always forcing their outgoing ways on people.

I'm like the most introverted introvert to ever introvert... I don't think this has anything to do with your Meyers-Briggs type.

I too am extremely introverted, and yet I can take the time to say hi and thank you.

I don’t care about feelings. We got a job to do and it’s to crush the dungeon.... for some people it’s not supposed to be their whole night.

Icy_Waffles wrote: »

I don’t care about feelings. We got a job to do and it’s to crush the dungeon.... for some people it’s not supposed to be their whole night.

lol ok, tiger.

MuchShock wrote: »

Even if the group had potato dps and I did 90% of it, I say ty before I leave. Always get a chuckle when potato says "you are welcome"

Anytime someone says thank you to me, I respond with "welcome". I always hear it in the voice of Dagwood the dagger.

DenMoria wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

Rather have the group stay together and focus on the dungeon than exchanging pleasantries. Plenty of time for that at the end when we divvy up the gear.

So it has nothing to do with fun or socializing. It's all about the loot.

Sounds like my visits to Whole Foods.

It can be both. Most vet PUGs are for pledges that people just want to roll through and move on. And in those, the socializing is at the end. If I was in a PUG for someone farming, or running a dungeon with guildies, that's different.

But if forced to choose, I'd rather have a PUG group that wants to motor through than spend time in text chat. I've been in those. Its usually 2-3 people pulling mobs while someone is at the beginning typing "LF ebon body."

I wonder though.

If it's just about "motoring through", then what's the point of PUG. Why not just go with some guildies or people you already know?

Is the whole game just about "motoring through" or is it about the experience, the adventuring, dialogue, socializing, etc.

This is why I almost always end up solo'ing. I want to take my time and experience the game, not just run through and collect the loot that I have no use for anyway.

I'll PUG if I'm doing other things at the same time. For instance, I'm leveling Fighters Guild on an alternate so its convenient to run down dolmens while in the queue. Or for times when a dungeon sounds fun, or I want to farm, and the guildies aren't available.

I don't want to give off the impression I'm some antisocial goob. I love trial and dungeon runs, both with guildies and PUGs. Not an area chat guy, but I'm no stranger to yucking it up over voice chat with groups. Sometimes PUG dungeon runs are just a convenient time killer.

Icy_Waffles wrote: »

I don’t care about feelings. We got a job to do and it’s to crush the dungeon.... for some people it’s not supposed to be their whole night.

I mean, do you go to work or school and start doing an activity with others without saying "Hi"? O_o

I always greet but sometimes there’s no response.

Personally I take this to mean - “We’re just to get this done, not make small talk.”

I’m pretty sure that many non English speakers know at least hi or hello.

Its no problem really as these groups often have been here and done this and have nothing they need to discuss or talk about.

Chicharron wrote: »

WolfingHour wrote: »

When someone says "Hello" to you it's common courtesy to say "Hello" back, even if it is on the internet. Period.

Y'all are just bending over backwards to justify not following the most basic of tenants of living life in human society.

You are being rude. If you don't like it, though break, change the way you act.

What?

10 seconds after the end of the dungeon i probably forget that you even exist, what is the point of saying hello?

Just do the instance, if someone need turn in quest stay, then go.

What happens after is besides the point. The point is that, prior to that, we are a group of people doing an activity with a common goal together and someone says hi.

I always say hello in dungeon PUGs. I used to do it out of sheer instinct (why not say hello) but I like to greet the group for a variety of reasons:

1. If people are shy or nervous or just new, hopefully they will feel I am approachable
2. If people answer, it is an indication to me of if they are watching chat, which is always helpful to know at the beginning
3. I actually do not type fast while playing (I use an Orbweaver to help minimize cubital tunnel syndrome; it helps a lot but it means moving my hands back to keyboard to respond), so I also like to say hello in chat so people know I am watching and can communicate, since my responses may be a little delayed mid-fight.
4. Related to this, people often drop too fast at the end for me to say "thank you for group." So I want to at least make sure I get a hello in there!

It doesn't offend me if people don't return a greeting in chat, because they may not be watching, but I do think it sets a friendlier tone when people say hello. And I tend to be a better player and more engaged if people seem friendly. There was another thread around here about "what would help people tank more" and I know that when I imagine a friendly PUG that says "hi there" I am much more willing to try and tank new content and help people out than I am when I think of a PUG where it feels like the group is silently judging me. LOL Any PUG might be someone's first experience in a dungeon or in a particular role so saying hello is my small way of making sure I don't scare someone off from trying something ever again.

My friend and I often queue together and will say hello to each other in a dungeon PUG, even if no one else answers. This always makes me chuckle.