Feanor wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Gprime31 wrote: »

Defile is fine, if anyone has trouble with it it’s a L2P issue plain and simple. Sloads stacks unlimited as far as I can tell and there are very few counters to it. Thus game should be about skill not sets.

What’s the counter to having 45% of your healing negated?

Have a purge bot as pocket healer.

If the healer is using entropy for his spell damage buff then he can’t get rid of Duroks defile either. At least not for 36 seconds. Obviously 2v1 against similarly skilled players won’t go well, but in an even fight the side with aoe Defile should win most of the time.

Daus wrote: »

ezio45 wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Biased poll, as there is ALOT more in eso that is Far greater threat and Far more dangerous then the 3 you have mentioned here.

Name 3 individual things more dangerous than this list, I’ll wait

Soul assault, cloak, and sorcs


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Daus wrote: »

Gprime31 wrote: »

Sloads... any half good player can beat defile

We don't all have OP damage shields.

will you quit hating on shields, learn to stun, god.

Funny thing about stun. When you CC the shield doesn't go away, unlike dodge rolling.

time it better, L2P, its not that hard to stun a sorc a few seconds after there shield is cat, see a clap, wait 3 seconds, stun

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Gprime31 wrote: »

Defile is fine, if anyone has trouble with it it’s a L2P issue plain and simple. Sloads stacks unlimited as far as I can tell and there are very few counters to it. Thus game should be about skill not sets.

What’s the counter to having 45% of your healing negated?

just because it killed you does not mean it is broken.
it means it is working as a counter to Broken builds. and is doing a Good job at helping make it fun for Everyone to Have fun iin PvP instead of just a small few.

I’m actually running Durok’s on almost every class. It’s not because it’s killing me that it’s too strong, it’s because of my personal experience using this set that I know it’s overperforming. I even published a Duroks+Sloads mageblade build where I detail why i think it’s the meta and what I’m personally doing to counter Sload

I agree that healing is overperforming so defiles are necessary. However, because Befoul CP Star is so strong and sourcing defile from Durok’s is so efficient you end up with outlier situations which are unbalanced and should be toned down.

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

sevomd69 wrote: »

Can't you purge sloads?

short answer yes,

but,

long answer:
heres the thing, in battlegrounds you are bieng hit by multiple people hitting you, so 1 purge may not remove all the dots from other users attacking you, but to be fair, sloads is the least of your worries when your being attacked by multiple people, because normaly if multiple people are attacking you, then you would normaly die anyway.

people dont want to adjust thier build and slot purge for defenses, instead they want to maintain MAX 100% Damage output and zero in defences, so when suggest purge to them they refuse and make threads here on forums saying the set is at fault, when in reality it is not the set of armor that is the problem, it is thier build.

tl;tr: non magsorc or nonnb have to dont worry about this
msorc or nb - purge wont help you even with single opponent because of many other debuffs with dots so git gud and l2p

The problem with all of those named things (sloads, bleeds, defile) is, that the experienced players see those as strong, maybe have problems with it or also may deal with it. here on the forums rather the experienced players are active, meanwhile average players just play the game. now somebody said, that 1vX shouldnt exist and thanks to those sets the majority can have a good time in pvp. but this is just not the case. 1vX is possible based on skilllevel, not on sets and builds. those named sets make 1vX even more difficult. but the exactly same sets make pvp for everyone more difficult, not only for the experienced players. especially new players not even knowing what is happening all the time now have even less chance to get somewhere in pvp. a new player facing an experienced player results logically with the death of the new one. but thanks to those sets a new player doesnt even stand a chance against average players or other new players with those sets (and those sets are seen on new palyers too thanks to all those streamers hyping them up like crazy). so if those things are a bad experience for experineced players, which most likely can deal with it, are nightmares for new players. they now are forced to run in zergs, where they are kind of protected from those bad experiences, but when they once leave the zerg, they are dead. they wont have any good experiences outside of that, because they simply die without any chance to heal up or under constant pressure. they cant even learn anything from those experiences (only that they never should leave their zerg again).
so if somebody sais, that we finally can have a good time thanks to those sets, because 1vXers finally die, is so much wrong. nobody has a good time, battlegrounds are not fun, small scale is no fun etc because of that. and most people dont want to zerg, because it is unsatisfying to always be carried by your zerg. there is no progression anymore like this; experienced players stay experienced and somehow manage to deal with that stuff, meanwhile every other players stagnates being a zergling or big group player, because developing in pvp means learning new things outside of the already known stuff. normal progressions in pvp starts with zerging, being part of a big guild group, going to small scale or ballgroup and finally to a state where you also can walk alone (not meaning alone in the zerg). so if any experience outside of groups is not possible due to those lets say cancer stuff, then pvp wont evolve anymore.

so please dont think about yourself when dealing with those things, because we here on the forum mostly will survive, adapt and deal with it. but 90% of the pvp community wont, because they have to rely on a big group with healing and purging and once alone, they are dead and have no chance to progress due to those bad experiences outside of their group.

Edit: the same goes for sets like zaan and caluurion too. people have a bad time because of those sets, because they dont know how to deal with them, not like most people in here.