Bleeds, Befoul or Sload?

Blobsky

Which one is the most broken to fight against / with in your opinion?

Aliyavana

Sloads

sloads

Anastian

Sloads

Tried it out. It's downright bonkers because you can consistently reapply it and it effectively reduces self-heals by half.

Edziu

Sloads

normally will vote for bleeds but bleeds can be surpressed etc, sload simply ot only ignore all possible mitigations, it even destroy class main defense leaving this class just as free kill

WreckfulAbandon

Defile

Defile exponentially increases incoming pressure, especially when it's attached to a CC like reverberating bash, where you have to wait a second to CC break while your character flails with their arms in the air.

Befoul CP and healing CP need to be toned down, and major vitality needs to be removed. Major and minor mending should be the only healing buffs available and befoul/defile should still have its place in countering those. Major vitality is what led to the massive buff to defile with befoul. It should never have been added, it only gave people who knew what they were doing extra insurance to roflstomp casuals and drive them forever from PvP.

Lexxypwns

Defile

It depends on the source, but imo, Duroks is vastly superior to Sload.

Sload is probably more unbalanced because of buggy interactions with other mechanics, but bugs aside Duroks is superior

rikimm16_ESO

Anastian wrote: »

Tried it out. It's downright bonkers because you can consistently reapply it and it effectively reduces self-heals by half.

Hmmm... what?
How does Sloads effectively reduce self-heals by half?

Lexxypwns

Defile

@Blobsky why not all 3? Duroks+Sload+Zaan+Masters DW

Gilvoth

Biased poll, as there is ALOT more in eso that is Far greater threat and Far more dangerous then the 3 you have mentioned here.

Gilvoth

rikimm16_ESO wrote: »

Anastian wrote: »

Tried it out. It's downright bonkers because you can consistently reapply it and it effectively reduces self-heals by half.

Hmmm... what?
How does Sloads effectively reduce self-heals by half?

it cant, he is not telling the truth. infact sloads can only proc every 6 seconds and sometimes it does not even proc at all because it only has a 10% chance to proc ...

Sload’s Semblance
LEVEL 50 - CP 160
Type Craftable
Set bonus
(2 items) 1096 Maximum Magicka
(3 items) 1096 Maximum Stamina
(4 items) 129 Spell Damage - 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Damaging an enemy has a 10% chance to put a Leeching Shadow on them, dealing 853 Oblivion Damage every 1 second for 6 seconds. This effect can occur every 6 seconds.

however "IF" what he is referring to is being attacked by Multiple people hitting him with that set then that is silly, because anytime you are being attacked by Multiple people you are probably going to die from Anything and Everything they hit you with because you at that point are fighting a Group of People.

geonsocal

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Biased poll, as there is ALOT more in eso that is Far greater threat and Far more dangerous then the 3 you have mentioned here.

rules them all...

Wing

Bleeds

sloads is a scapegoat for death in pvp

see sloads in death recap?

oh well obviously that was the contributing factor to why you died, nothing to do with your lack of skill or bad play, they had sloads so there was nothing you can do.

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER

Defile

i think the problem is the stacking of the said 3.

cutting someones heal in half while doing huge pressure with bleeds/sloads is pretty broken.

Lexxypwns

Defile

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Biased poll, as there is ALOT more in eso that is Far greater threat and Far more dangerous then the 3 you have mentioned here.

Name 3 individual things more dangerous than this list, I’ll wait

WaltherCarraway

Bleeds

Everything that broke my chessiness and killed me

JumpmanLane

Defile

My MagDK can heal through all of that, even defile. Even though defiled I can still heal up to the point that I can heal to, and can usually still burst someone down. 1v1.

My StamDK is just in a bad place. Though if Bloodspawn procs and 7th Legion procs I might be ok. StamDK is just nerfed into the ground.

Betsararie

Defile

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Biased poll, as there is ALOT more in eso that is Far greater threat and Far more dangerous then the 3 you have mentioned here.

This may be true, but this is all FoTM stuff that everyone is all up in arms about.

To be sure, all 3 choices are threatening.

StaticWave

Bleeds

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Biased poll, as there is ALOT more in eso that is Far greater threat and Far more dangerous then the 3 you have mentioned here.

Actually those are the most dangerous.. Oblivion damage goes through all mitigation, bleeds ignore resistance, and defile + befoul cp makes your healing non existent. Idk what other "greater threat" you have in mind but those 3 are the most cancerous offensive things in eso pvp.

Solariken

Bleeds

This should be a pretty tight poll lol. Gotta say bleeds though because the nastiest one comes with a fat snare.

Savos_Saren

Why bother with just one?

Slot Master's DW for Bleed and Sload on your StamBlade and use Incapacitating strike for Major Defile. Hell, you even get the 20% extra damage from Incap Strike, too. Don't forget to use Automaton or Innate Axiom for that extra damage to your bleed or skills.

Lexxypwns

Defile

Solariken wrote: »

This should be a pretty tight poll lol. Gotta say bleeds though because the nastiest one comes with a fat snare.

Magika problems

Maryal

You forgot one: Major Defile + Powerful DOT (especially when major defile is stacked with minor defile)

Major Defile is the catalyst that turns powerful damage over time into an OP DOT (or combination of DOTs).

It's not just getting hit with oblivion damage from Sloads, it's not just getting hit with bleed damage (or enhanced bleed via DW Master Weapon) ... it's loosing your 'counter ability' to self-heal that makes these DOTs OP. With your ability to be defensive slashed, so is counter-play ... IMO no AOE debuff or proc set should be able to do that.

I don't think all sources of major defile need to be removed from the game (single target application via skill or ability ok), but major defile should not exist in any form of AOE debuff or something that is automatically applied via a proc set.

Gilvoth

StaticWave wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Biased poll, as there is ALOT more in eso that is Far greater threat and Far more dangerous then the 3 you have mentioned here.

Actually those are the most dangerous.. Oblivion damage goes through all mitigation, bleeds ignore resistance, and defile + befoul cp makes your healing non existent. Idk what other "greater threat" you have in mind but those 3 are the most cancerous offensive things in eso pvp.

all ultimates, is another one, fall damage, the list is very long.
just claiming that 3 things are the greatest and none other exist is just not true.
oblivion damage cant be stoped but if you cast purge on the sloads set D.O.T. it will remove that D.O.T.

RedRook

Sloads

The stacking of all three - because of course - is ridiculous.

Lexxypwns

Defile

@dwemer_paleologist please respond to me too buddy.

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Biased poll, as there is ALOT more in eso that is Far greater threat and Far more dangerous then the 3 you have mentioned here.

Name 3 individual things that are more universally dangerous than this list please

Adenoma

Sloads

@Lexxypwns , apparently fall damage is one of them. I guess wood elves are OP.

Solariken

Bleeds

Adenoma wrote: »

@Lexxypwns , apparently fall damage is one of them. I guess wood elves are OP.

Fall damage is OP for sure though - just slipping off the platform in Ald Carac is almost 9k damage. Ridiculous.

Deep_01

Cost poisons.

Strider__Roshin

Defile

Deep_01 wrote: »

Cost poisons.

Honestly this is probably worse than every item listed in the poll.

RANKK7

Defile

Defile is a freaking disgrace and befoul needs adjustment.

Tommy_The_Gun

Sloads

On death recap:
Assasin's Will - 4.8K dmg
Sload - 5.7K dmg (7 ticks - which means sload proced immediately after 6 sec. )



So a set is preforming better than a skill designed to give high burst dmg...

But still - the most broken things about sload are:
1. It can proc on EVERY single type of dmg. Light/heavy attack, dot, poison, enchant, skill, other proc set (yep - other proc set that deal dmg can proc it too)... Even siege engines can proc it. It even does not have a "distance" condition... you can throw aoe dot like caltrops and it can still be procked...
2. Sload can stack with other sloads - yep that is true - if a whole group is using sload... rip.
3. It has way too much uptime. Sure - it has 10% chance to proc... But if you have a lot of dot then it can potentially proc infinitely - it lasts 6 seconds and the effect can occur every 6 seconds.
4. It forces every one to run Purge (that is extremly punishing for stamina builds).
5. It makes high risk - high reward builds almost inrelevant and rewards "brick" 50k + health builds - giving them way too much potential dmg. Why to spend attribute points on stamina & magicka to have higher dmg... Spend it all to health... Sload will do dmg for you...
6. Unlike shield breaker set (that was basically designed as a counter for shield stacking - instead of changing how dmg shield works lol ) sloads affects all builds. Even those that were easy kill-able & squishy in a first place.
7. And finally - it is only a "6 trait" crafted set. It is way too easy to get in comparison to what it can do. Compare it to other "9 trait" crafted sets and try not to laugh...
Already it feels like this set is given for free when you enter Cyrodiil.