Bleed

Skander · February 2018

Nerf it

Thank you

Subversus · February 2018

Permablock templars

I eat pie

Thank you

> this is what your post sounds like. Care to elaborate? Or is this another one of those "pls nerf I can't beat it" comments that you like to make?

deepseamk20b14_ESO · February 2018

Personally I deal with bleeding by applying pressure. If it’s bad enough perhaps a tourniquet.

Skander · February 2018

Subversus wrote: »

Permablock templars

I eat pie

Thank you

> this is what your post sounds like. Care to elaborate? Or is this another one of those "pls nerf I can't beat it" comments that you like to make?

1) it's moronic to go trought all resistences
2) It's moronic that you can win with light attacks and 1 skill
3) it's moronic that bleed doesn't cost much since it's a proc.

Subversus · February 2018

Skander wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Permablock templars

I eat pie

Thank you

> this is what your post sounds like. Care to elaborate? Or is this another one of those "pls nerf I can't beat it" comments that you like to make?

1) it's moronic to go trought all resistences
2) It's moronic that you can win with light attacks and 1 skill
3) it's moronic that bleed doesn't cost much since it's a proc.

What would you have them do? You're listing your opinion on them, not any actual suggestion or solution.

I haven't had problems with bleeds since like homestead, hence why I'd very much like to be enlightened.

Skander · February 2018

Subversus wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Permablock templars

I eat pie

Thank you

> this is what your post sounds like. Care to elaborate? Or is this another one of those "pls nerf I can't beat it" comments that you like to make?

1) it's moronic to go trought all resistences
2) It's moronic that you can win with light attacks and 1 skill
3) it's moronic that bleed doesn't cost much since it's a proc.

What would you have them do? You're listing your opinion on them, not any actual suggestion or solution.

I haven't had problems with bleeds since like homestead, hence why I'd very much like to be enlightened.

It's not an opinion. If you want to win without actual skillplay, you should go play another single player rpg.
They are literally one of the worst things in this game.

Sixty5 · February 2018

If you remove bleed then you are removing the only real solo counter to permablock tanks.

It is the lesser of two evils.

Skander · February 2018

Sixty5 wrote: »

If you remove bleed then you are removing the only real solo counter to permablock tanks.

It is the lesser of two evils.

I didn't say remove. I said nerf

CyrusArya · February 2018

They add variety to builds and gameplay, so no. Bleeds aren't OP, though yes they can be very strong. The strongest builds in the game don't use bleeds, they are based around direct damage. Stop crying for nerfs for every thing you struggle against.

Skander · February 2018

CyrusArya wrote: »

They add variety to builds and gameplay, so no. Bleeds aren't OP, though yes they can be very strong. The strongest builds in the game don't use bleeds, they are based around direct damage. Stop crying for nerfs for every thing you struggle against.

Nah, bleeds are over the top atm.

CyrusArya · February 2018

Skander wrote: »

Nah, bleeds are over the top atm.

Bleeds are strong, but on par with the other damage that exists in the game. If you want a stale game with less options and build variety, keep advocating for nerfs to the specific things you get rekt by.

kaithuzar · February 2018

I don't think they need a damage nerf or anything, but there needs to be a way to deal with them like... you know... the way people deal with cloak

Qbiken · February 2018

My werewolf light attack bleed says hi

Want to add bleed to the WW-heavy attacks as well (that counts as a separate bleed)

In what way would you like to nerf it OP? Only lower the damage or change how it works?

IZZEFlameLash · February 2018

Given the trend, it should be brought in line with other DoTs by make it affected by resistances. And would not be surprised if this will be the case. Lol. Just like power lash change, suddenly becoming a glitch to fix

Azurya · February 2018

Skander wrote: »

Nerf it

Thank you

no, no need for it.
Since you sounds like a child who just found out his toy was taken away
NO, just that way!

Qbiken · February 2018

IZZESparkling wrote: »

Given the trend, it should be brought in line with other DoTs by make it affected by resistances. And would not be surprised if this will be the case. Lol. Just like power lash change, suddenly becoming a glitch to fix

In comparison to Power-Lash being un-dodgeable (I suppose it´s that you mean by the "glitch"), bleed ignoring physical resistance isn´t a glitch. And there´re a number of ways to mitigate or counter bleed-damage.

* CP: Putting points into thick-skinned (not viable for no-CP though)
* Using shields: Harness magicka, Hardened Ward, Healing Ward. Bleed-damage doesn´t ignore shields.
* Applying Minor/Major protection to yourself
* Applying minor/major maim to your enemy
* Having a friend using guard (alliance war skilline) on you
* Using cloak, while in cloak you´ll supress the bleed-dot
* Purge the DoT

Bleed-damage ignore physical resistance and can´t be mitigate by block. However, bleed-damage doesn´t ignore critical resistance. Bleed-damage is a direct counter to tanky builds that utilizes block as their main defense. Making bleed being mitigated by resistance would just buff the already overperforming mitigation in PvP.

Subversus · February 2018

Qbiken wrote: »

IZZESparkling wrote: »

Given the trend, it should be brought in line with other DoTs by make it affected by resistances. And would not be surprised if this will be the case. Lol. Just like power lash change, suddenly becoming a glitch to fix

In comparison to Power-Lash being un-dodgeable (I suppose it´s that you mean by the "glitch"), bleed ignoring physical resistance isn´t a glitch. And there´re a number of ways to mitigate or counter bleed-damage.

* CP: Putting points into thick-skinned (not viable for no-CP though)
* Using shields: Harness magicka, Hardened Ward, Healing Ward. Bleed-damage doesn´t ignore shields.
* Applying Minor/Major protection to yourself
* Applying minor/major maim to your enemy
* Having a friend using guard (alliance war skilline) on you
* Using cloak, while in cloak you´ll supress the bleed-dot
* Purge the DoT

Bleed-damage ignore physical resistance and can´t be mitigate by block. However, bleed-damage doesn´t ignore critical resistance. Bleed-damage is a direct counter to tanky builds that utilizes block as their main defense. Making bleed being mitigated by resistance would just buff the already overperforming mitigation in PvP.

Don't forget that OP is a magplar main, I don't even know why he's [snip] about bleeds to begin with. But then again, that's skander's MO - cry about things that are beating you.

[Edited to remove profanity]

Skander · February 2018

I personaly would change bleed so it scales with physical armor.
Becouse having a free 100% dmg to tanky opponents that sacrify things to be that tanky, it's moronic and insulting.

Oblivion dmg has countdowns. Bleed doesn't.

ToRelax · February 2018

Qbiken wrote: »

IZZESparkling wrote: »

Given the trend, it should be brought in line with other DoTs by make it affected by resistances. And would not be surprised if this will be the case. Lol. Just like power lash change, suddenly becoming a glitch to fix

In comparison to Power-Lash being un-dodgeable (I suppose it´s that you mean by the "glitch"), bleed ignoring physical resistance isn´t a glitch. And there´re a number of ways to mitigate or counter bleed-damage.

* CP: Putting points into thick-skinned (not viable for no-CP though)
* Using shields: Harness magicka, Hardened Ward, Healing Ward. Bleed-damage doesn´t ignore shields.
* Applying Minor/Major protection to yourself
* Applying minor/major maim to your enemy
* Having a friend using guard (alliance war skilline) on you
* Using cloak, while in cloak you´ll supress the bleed-dot
* Purge the DoT

Bleed-damage ignore physical resistance and can´t be mitigate by block. However, bleed-damage doesn´t ignore critical resistance. Bleed-damage is a direct counter to tanky builds that utilizes block as their main defense. Making bleed being mitigated by resistance would just buff the already overperforming mitigation in PvP.

Tbf, none of these are counters, just general defensive mechanisms that happen to work on bleeds. Not sure they need a counter though, and I'm probably biased in favour of it since bleeds are so strong against me.

Datthaw · February 2018

Why aren't we talking about the real issues. Inner light is too bright, needs to be nerfed. Get that ball away from me satan.

Subversus · February 2018

Datthaw wrote: »

Why aren't we talking about the real issues. Inner light is too bright, needs to be nerfed. Get that ball away from me satan.

That shiz too bright? Frickin power of the light is the most annoying ability in this game smh that mfker covers up my whole screen I legit can't see anything when I fight a stamplar.

Datolite · February 2018

This has to be a troll post. No one is really this bad...

idk · February 2018

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

This has to be a troll post. No one is really this bad...

+1 Especially how little sense the OP makes.

Nihility42 · February 2018

Skander wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Permablock templars

I eat pie

Thank you

> this is what your post sounds like. Care to elaborate? Or is this another one of those "pls nerf I can't beat it" comments that you like to make?

1) it's moronic to go trought all resistences
2) It's moronic that you can win with light attacks and 1 skill
3) it's moronic that bleed doesn't cost much since it's a proc.

Hi there! It sounds like you're having some trouble with the game. I hope I'm not overstepping in making some suggestions on how to resove your situation. I'd suggest trying one of the following things:

1. Git gud

DoctorESO · February 2018

Azurya · February 2018

Bleeding is fine the way it is, and I need it on bossfights, the way it is!
And just because a kiddy gets killed by it while duelling, and he doesn´t want to think about how to counterplay it,
he calls for a NERF!
too easy boy, too easy......

Minno · February 2018

Subversus wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

IZZESparkling wrote: »

Given the trend, it should be brought in line with other DoTs by make it affected by resistances. And would not be surprised if this will be the case. Lol. Just like power lash change, suddenly becoming a glitch to fix

In comparison to Power-Lash being un-dodgeable (I suppose it´s that you mean by the "glitch"), bleed ignoring physical resistance isn´t a glitch. And there´re a number of ways to mitigate or counter bleed-damage.

* CP: Putting points into thick-skinned (not viable for no-CP though)
* Using shields: Harness magicka, Hardened Ward, Healing Ward. Bleed-damage doesn´t ignore shields.
* Applying Minor/Major protection to yourself
* Applying minor/major maim to your enemy
* Having a friend using guard (alliance war skilline) on you
* Using cloak, while in cloak you´ll supress the bleed-dot
* Purge the DoT

Bleed-damage ignore physical resistance and can´t be mitigate by block. However, bleed-damage doesn´t ignore critical resistance. Bleed-damage is a direct counter to tanky builds that utilizes block as their main defense. Making bleed being mitigated by resistance would just buff the already overperforming mitigation in PvP.

Don't forget that OP is a magplar main, I don't even know why he's [snip] about bleeds to begin with. But then again, that's skander's MO - cry about things that are beating you.

Because contrary to popular belief, purge doesn't always catch the bleeds. And with no viable shield to justify slotting with similar cost BoL, bleeds kinda hurt.

[Edited for quote]

Speed_Kills · February 2018

Slot rapid regen if you can't handle bleeds with extended ritual alone.

Skander · February 2018

Speed_Kills wrote: »

Slot rapid regen if you can't handle bleeds with extended ritual alone.

I won't change my build becouse something isn't balanced

Skander · February 2018

Subversus wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

IZZESparkling wrote: »

Given the trend, it should be brought in line with other DoTs by make it affected by resistances. And would not be surprised if this will be the case. Lol. Just like power lash change, suddenly becoming a glitch to fix

In comparison to Power-Lash being un-dodgeable (I suppose it´s that you mean by the "glitch"), bleed ignoring physical resistance isn´t a glitch. And there´re a number of ways to mitigate or counter bleed-damage.

* CP: Putting points into thick-skinned (not viable for no-CP though)
* Using shields: Harness magicka, Hardened Ward, Healing Ward. Bleed-damage doesn´t ignore shields.
* Applying Minor/Major protection to yourself
* Applying minor/major maim to your enemy
* Having a friend using guard (alliance war skilline) on you
* Using cloak, while in cloak you´ll supress the bleed-dot
* Purge the DoT

Bleed-damage ignore physical resistance and can´t be mitigate by block. However, bleed-damage doesn´t ignore critical resistance. Bleed-damage is a direct counter to tanky builds that utilizes block as their main defense. Making bleed being mitigated by resistance would just buff the already overperforming mitigation in PvP.

Don't forget that OP is a magplar main, I don't even know why he's [snip] about bleeds to begin with. But then again, that's skander's MO - cry about things that are beating you.

Ah that's another point sorry.

Using 3.5k (breton, heavy armor, seducer) cost of a ritual for the IMMENSE bleed FREE dmg, it's moronic. Thanks for reminding me

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Skander · February 2018

People cried about oblivion dmg output, they adjusted it, now it's fine. Just reminding Zenimax to update bleeds too.