Vigor should be at rank 2 or 3 it takes so freaking long now :/

Bigevilpeter · October 2016

ffs it is a must have in pve, i can't grind vigor with every stamina character i have, it takes too long even with the bonus. PvP in general is stupid boring too much chaos and just keep spamming skills forever, while you destroy the door then they rebuild it again.

Its freaking torture and with that rate it will take like 12 hours or more to get vigor, not to mention caltrops ( which probably is too much pain than it is worth)

At least make vigor at rank 3 or 2 I freaking hate pvp and shouldnt be forced to do it to get the only heal stamina has outside 2 handed.

susmitds · October 2016

How about no?

olsborg · October 2016

What? I got vigor in one and a half day of pvping abit, and I got undaunted rank 9 in 2 weeks of doing pledges. What?

Solus · October 2016

It doesnt take that long, thats an over-exaggeration.

DannyLV702 · October 2016

Lmfao either shut up, or we can go back to the days where it would take pve'ers MONTHS of pvp to actually get it. Which do you pick?

Bigevilpeter · October 2016

olsborg wrote: »

What? I got vigor in one and a half day of pvping abit, and I got undaunted rank 9 in 2 weeks of doing pledges. What?

getting and the extra health passive from undaunted can't even compare to the only stamina heal that's not 2 handed, plz stop comparing undaunted to alliance ranks, but then again that's probably the only argument pvpers got

DeadlyRecluse · October 2016

Vigor takes like 2 hours to get now.

If it's really that painful, spend gold on wall repkits and just do that.

Banana · October 2016

Any time spent doing PVP is painfull. But if your a stamina user you have to suck it up. Resto and repair walls. Then leave.

Ghost-Shot · October 2016

Back with the same thread again? PvE'rs have already seen all the progression taken out of alliance ranks. It takes 3 hours of PvP for a trash player to unlock vigor, if you can't handle that you don't deserve access to it, otherwise I want an easy mode way to get malestrom weapons.

Bigevilpeter · October 2016

Those who say no, is there really any good reason to make it longer, seriosly the stupidest mentality ever, lets make everything take longer for no reason.

Ghost-Shot · October 2016

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Those who say no, is there really any good reason to make it longer, seriosly the stupidest mentality ever, lets make everything take longer for no reason.

So you agree PvP'rs should get malestrom weapons of choice for doing normal mode?

Ch4mpTW · October 2016

Guys... OP is allowed to suggest whatever he wants, and have whatever opinion he wants. Do I agree with him personally? No. Absolutely not. Not in the slightest, when putting into perspective how long it took previously. Do I understand the basis he's going off of for a PvE'er to have to endure PvP for such a valuable skill? Yes. However, y'all gotta chill. A lot of folks here on the forums are getting out of pocket, and becoming highly toxic. Smh.

bottleofsyrup · October 2016

Lol, 2 or 3? You get to 2 just by doing the level 10 intro quest...I've gotten to 3 on alts just by the AP you get from town dailies...It's fine where it is.

Bigevilpeter · October 2016

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Those who say no, is there really any good reason to make it longer, seriosly the stupidest mentality ever, lets make everything take longer for no reason.

So you agree PvP'rs should get malestrom weapons of choice for doing normal mode?

Lol I am one of the biggest opposers of the concept of malestrom arena for both pvpers and pvers

Baconfat79 · October 2016

It used to take MONTHS to get Vigor. There was a time when almost nobody in PvE had it. As a PvE only player, I can honestly say that we have it easy these days. Follow a zerg around for a few hours and spam Rapid Regen...boom, done. PvP-only players have to grind PvE to get Undaunted Mettle, so it works both ways. Stop whining.

smacx250 · October 2016

OP - come clean. This is a joke, right?

Bigevilpeter · October 2016

smacx250 wrote: »

OP - come clean. This is a joke, right?

Why is it a joke that I hate pvp and don't want to grind it for 12 hours of my life on each of my stamina characters?

Wow people have really become without lives at all that concept like I don't want to waste time seems to confuse them.

Dr.NRG · October 2016

It takes litrally 3 hours to get vigor which is way to quick if you compare how long a pvp guy or girl needs to get undaunted so dont complain!

Osteos · October 2016

Its already ridiculously easy to get vigor.

Ch4mpTW · October 2016

Welp, the onslaught continues. I tried to provide logic and reasoning to ease the unneeded negativity, but that was completely disregarded. I apologize OP, but welcome to the ESO Forums late-2016. Where swarms of people will: Bait, flame, troll, and try to make you feel bad over your opinions.

Bigevilpeter · October 2016

Dr.NRG wrote: »

It takes litrally 3 hours to get vigor which is way to quick if you compare how long a pvp guy or girl needs to get undaunted so dont complain!

I've been and hour and a half now and still in the middle of lvl 3, need 15k more then 60k more to get vigor, i got the delve boss bonus and join groups and still its freakishly slow.

So 1 and half hour for 15k then I need 7 and half hours to get vigor....... on every stamina character i have, which are 4 got it on one already still have 3 more

Bigevilpeter · October 2016

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Welp, the onslaught continues. I tried to provide logic and reasoning to ease the unneeded negativity, but that was completely disregarded. I apologize OP, but welcome to the ESO Forums late-2016. Where swarms of people will: Bait, flame, troll, and try to make you feel bad over your opinions.

Well yeah that was expected, thnx for being mature about it, but I really don't care about the toxic elitists, this is just an attempt to get ZOS's attention

code65536 · October 2016

Remember the days when Vigor required Centurion Grade 2? And required almost 7M AP? <Insert Pepperidge Farm meme>

They've eased the Vigor requirements twice already, first by taking it from Assault 10 to Assault 5, and again when they reduced the AP for all the Assault ranks. Now you only need a cumulative total of 98K AP.

They've already reduced the requirements by 98.6%. And you want to slash it even more? LOL.

smacx250 · October 2016

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

smacx250 wrote: »

OP - come clean. This is a joke, right?

Why is it a joke that I hate pvp and don't want to grind it for 12 hours of my life on each of my stamina characters?

Wow people have really become without lives at all that concept like I don't want to waste time seems to confuse them.

Really? Why is it that I have to group with people and grind the same thing again and again to get some stupid passives to make me competitive? I'm really a PvE'r, but not a "grouper", and I find even doing PvP "easy" compared to getting the desirable PvE passives I "need". The time comparisons aren't even similar when you consider you can meet the PvP requirements with no overhead in finding groups, getting kicked, and all that crap, vs just going out and joining fights for whatever little or as much time as you have. They already hacked the PvP requirements - time to do the same for undaunted.

KingYogi415 · October 2016

Dude, vigor took at least 1 mil plus to get before, and AP was harder to get.

90k for vigor is nothing, if you don't like it play magic class.

Just defend keeps. Learn how to pour oil!

idk · October 2016

@Bigevilpeter

I asume your new to the game. ESO reduced the work to get vigor about 9 months ago. It's much easier and faster than it was originally.

Zero reason to make it easier. Do the time.

If it's taking you 12 hours the that's not s big deal. Probably would have taken you over 48 hours before.

alexkdd99 · October 2016

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Those who say no, is there really any good reason to make it longer, seriosly the stupidest mentality ever, lets make everything take longer for no reason.

So you agree PvP'rs should get malestrom weapons of choice for doing normal mode?

There are other options besides maelstrom weapons, there are no other options in place of vigor. I am not saying make it easier but that is a ridiculous comparison.

Taylor_MB · October 2016

alexkdd99 wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Those who say no, is there really any good reason to make it longer, seriosly the stupidest mentality ever, lets make everything take longer for no reason.

So you agree PvP'rs should get malestrom weapons of choice for doing normal mode?

There are other options besides maelstrom weapons, there are no other options in place of vigor. I am not saying make it easier but that is a ridiculous comparison.

Bloodthirst, Blood Craze, Rally, Boneshield, Scattershot, Lacerate.

No other options, yeah.

Averya_Teira · October 2016

Taylor_MB wrote: »

alexkdd99 wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Those who say no, is there really any good reason to make it longer, seriosly the stupidest mentality ever, lets make everything take longer for no reason.

So you agree PvP'rs should get malestrom weapons of choice for doing normal mode?

There are other options besides maelstrom weapons, there are no other options in place of vigor. I am not saying make it easier but that is a ridiculous comparison.

Bloodthirst, Blood Craze, Rally, Boneshield, Scattershot, Lacerate.

No other options, yeah.

To be fair, those option are all VASTLY inferior to Vigor lol....

vyndral13preub18_ESO · October 2016

Averya_Teira wrote: »

Taylor_MB wrote: »

alexkdd99 wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Those who say no, is there really any good reason to make it longer, seriosly the stupidest mentality ever, lets make everything take longer for no reason.

So you agree PvP'rs should get malestrom weapons of choice for doing normal mode?

There are other options besides maelstrom weapons, there are no other options in place of vigor. I am not saying make it easier but that is a ridiculous comparison.

Bloodthirst, Blood Craze, Rally, Boneshield, Scattershot, Lacerate.

No other options, yeah.

To be fair, those option are all VASTLY inferior to Vigor lol....

Well he did say no other options. Not that it wasnt the best. Of course vigor is better then like 90% of the healing skills in the game.

Anti_Virus · October 2016

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Back with the same thread again? PvE'rs have already seen all the progression taken out of alliance ranks. It takes 3 hours of PvP for a trash player to unlock vigor, if you can't handle that you don't deserve access to it, otherwise I want an easy mode way to get malestrom weapons.

Although vigor is easy to get now I don't understand why pvpers are always rude to others.

Lol weapons do not compare to a skill at all why do you guys always bring that up? In that case make black rose easy to get by making me immune to gankers in the sewers.