Maintenance for the week of April 13:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 13
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 13
Thread for PC Users :)
-
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH @Xendyn
Did you see this?Yes, you'll will be able to craft VR15 and VR16 items, but it will require the acquisition of new materials. These materials are not obtained through harvest nodes the way other crafting materials typically are. Instead, you must obtain them by deconstructing VR15 and VR16 drops and then using those materials to craft new items. Also, the new materials are tradeable, so you can buy and sell them with other players, and you can buy them with Tel Var Stones in the Imperial City.
So they are adding a new material... that has to come from decon. oh man.
Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord0 -
P3ZZL3✭✭✭✭✭
✭Maybe these words of Wisdom will help you @Reverb
Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.CP561 Redguard | Jabsy Templar | Stamina Build
CP561 Breton | Jesus Beam Templar | Magicka Build Forever!
CP561 Naked Nord | Tanky DK | Stamigicka Build
✭✭✭ Check ESO Server Status Live!: http://eso.webhub.eu/ ✭✭✭1 -
P3ZZL3✭✭✭✭✭
✭Oh, and @MissBizz It's not that bad to gather the Stones.
Just travel in a Group and you'll more than likely be fine..... I suspect you'll be able to order and buy through certain others who are heavy PVP'rs. I can see a LOT of fun with stealth missions from various Guilds taking down various keeps to disrupt them across all the campaigns...
CP561 Redguard | Jabsy Templar | Stamina Build
CP561 Breton | Jesus Beam Templar | Magicka Build Forever!
CP561 Naked Nord | Tanky DK | Stamigicka Build
✭✭✭ Check ESO Server Status Live!: http://eso.webhub.eu/ ✭✭✭0 -
Xendyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH @Xendyn
Did you see this?Yes, you'll will be able to craft VR15 and VR16 items, but it will require the acquisition of new materials. These materials are not obtained through harvest nodes the way other crafting materials typically are. Instead, you must obtain them by deconstructing VR15 and VR16 drops and then using those materials to craft new items. Also, the new materials are tradeable, so you can buy and sell them with other players, and you can buy them with Tel Var Stones in the Imperial City.
So they are adding a new material... that has to come from decon. oh man.
Don't worry, I shall be your pvp supplier
Definitely going to have to hit this on PTS tho to see how it works out. If it's all mob drops, might not be too bad.
Gonna have to dust my Sorcs off for those Tel Var stones tho. Don't think a healer will have much chance at nabbing them.Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.
There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance - Socrates
Member of the Old Guard, keepers of the game's history
PC/NA0 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Maybe these words of Wisdom will help you @Reverb
Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
Now where have I seen that before?
A much better quote is one that I've already been (appropriately) told never to post here again. About how arguing on the Internet is like....doing other things a person does to please only themself .
Reminds me that anything I write that might get somebody worked up is ultimately pointless.Edited by Reverb on July 15, 2015 4:37PMBattle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche0 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH @Xendyn
Did you see this?Yes, you'll will be able to craft VR15 and VR16 items, but it will require the acquisition of new materials. These materials are not obtained through harvest nodes the way other crafting materials typically are. Instead, you must obtain them by deconstructing VR15 and VR16 drops and then using those materials to craft new items. Also, the new materials are tradeable, so you can buy and sell them with other players, and you can buy them with Tel Var Stones in the Imperial City.
So they are adding a new material... that has to come from decon. oh man.
Don't worry, I shall be your pvp supplier
Definitely going to have to hit this on PTS tho to see how it works out. If it's all mob drops, might not be too bad.
Gonna have to dust my Sorcs off for those Tel Var stones tho. Don't think a healer will have much chance at nabbing them.
Haha yeah, I think the monster fighting will be easy, it's the getting out alive part... unless I just let the last monster kill me.. so I can spawn somewhere safe.. hmmmm.. carebear tactics lol.Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord0 -
Francis_Toliver✭✭✭
Yeah, $20 was my guess as well. I will be dropping my sub now though, as I made a promise to myself to only keep it going if Imperial City was free.$20 is pretty much what I expected for new zones really.
I keep a sub going, as the amount is negligible for me. £8.99 is a couple of pints a beer. *shrug*
Why on earth would Imperial City be free for non premium members? How do you think a company is supposed to stay in business if they don't charge for the product they produce? If you have a sub then you have paid for access to the DLC with your subscription if you don't have a sub then you pay for it with cash. How is that a bad thing? I really mean no offense but your statement befuddles me with the sense of entitlement I perceive!2 -
Xendyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Oh, and @MissBizz It's not that bad to gather the Stones.
Just travel in a Group and you'll more than likely be fine..... I suspect you'll be able to order and buy through certain others who are heavy PVP'rs. I can see a LOT of fun with stealth missions from various Guilds taking down various keeps to disrupt them across all the campaigns...
Yessss
and I am lucky enough to be part of a guild that specializes in speed keep takes.
Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.
There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance - Socrates
Member of the Old Guard, keepers of the game's history
PC/NA1 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oh man, I have so many questions. lmao. I can't wait until it gets on the PTS... going to write them here so I have a list to refer to when it comes...
Do the stones drop from the new dungeons (mobs)? (I'm assuming not)
Do the dungeon mobs drop items that can be deconstructed to gain the new material type? (I think/hope so)
Where exactly are the new crafting stations? Can I be ganked while trying to select my trait for my new gloves? (Please no)
Where is the new glass motif (non DLC) found?
By new undaunted pledges do they mean pledges will now include the new dungeons? So if you don't have the DLC you aren't able to do the pledge that day?
Will there now be enough quests in game to get the achievement?
OMG DID ANYONE NOTICE THIS? •The ability to hide mount visual upgrades
Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord1 -
lathbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭maybe the new glass style is found in ayelid ruins similar to how the dwemer one is found0 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭maybe the new glass style is found in ayelid ruins similar to how the dwemer one is found
I would be so excited.. like "AHA! Now who can't get the new style in their own faction?
" lol Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord0 -
Francis_Toliver✭✭✭
Yeah, $20 was my guess as well. I will be dropping my sub now though, as I made a promise to myself to only keep it going if Imperial City was free.$20 is pretty much what I expected for new zones really.
I keep a sub going, as the amount is negligible for me. £8.99 is a couple of pints a beer. *shrug*
I do wish IC was free, what with it being in the middle of the PVP zone. I did hope. But part of me knew it would be priced. ZoS are going to monetise all zones etc.
It should have been free, but sadly there is a great deal of difference between should be and is in business.
Again, I am not trying to pick a fight here, but what does its location have to do with it being free or not? Why would the fact that people pvp around it translate to "it ought to be free"? If I have a shoe store on the corner of a street should the shoes be free because people walk around it on the sidewalk? I don't understand this?
And why shouldn't new material, whether new zones or new the new dark brotherhood guild cost something? People are working to produce these things and they need to be paid. The company that is making this game (which I assume we are all enjoying, because we are playing it) needs to turn a profit for its share holders. What part of this equation doesn't make sense?
Again, I mean no offense to you, I am just curious why the thought is "it should be free" instead of "it should cost an honest payment for the product produced"? What is the thought process to your statement?Edited by Francis_Toliver on July 15, 2015 4:45PM1 -
Enodoc✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Francis_Toliver wrote: »
Yeah, $20 was my guess as well. I will be dropping my sub now though, as I made a promise to myself to only keep it going if Imperial City was free.$20 is pretty much what I expected for new zones really.
I keep a sub going, as the amount is negligible for me. £8.99 is a couple of pints a beer. *shrug*
Why on earth would Imperial City be free for non premium members? How do you think a company is supposed to stay in business if they don't charge for the product they produce? If you have a sub then you have paid for access to the DLC with your subscription if you don't have a sub then you pay for it with cash. How is that a bad thing? I really mean no offense but your statement befuddles me with the sense of entitlement I perceive!
@Francis_Toliver my reasonings (note that these are based around access and the intention of "DLC", not entitlement to have it (although that is mentioned briefly for completeness)):First of all, there has been no confirmation either way on whether IC will be paid content or not. I would like to put forward the case to ZOS on why it should not be, and why it should be free to everyone under the promise of "regular updates and new gameplay [that] will be offered to all players to enjoy free of additional charges", as essential "new gameplay" for PvP rather than the paid-for "optional extras".
They said, when giving examples of paid DLC, that they would be scaled to your level and accessible straight away when you buy them. This cannot happen with IC, as you have to own all the Home Keeps to get in. Meaning, even if you own the content, you may not be able to access it. Conversely, those who do not own it would not be able to get in despite spending hours earning the access in Cyrodiil.
Also, the amount of info we have been given about it, and the length of time we have been waiting for it for, considering it is supposed to be part of the main PvP experience, would suggest to me that it would be more appropriate as one of the "regular updates [which is] free of additional charges".
And here's a situational case study of what would happen if it was a paid DLC with access requirements:Situation 1:
"Hey guys! I just bought Imperial City! Let's go check it out!"
"Sorry dude, our alliance doesn't own all our home keeps right now, you can't get in."
"Seriously? I can't check out content that I just paid $15 for?" /ragequit
Situation 2:
"Awesome, we only have to get one more keep to get Imperial City access!" *Keep flips*
"Everyone into Imperial City! Go go go!... Except you. You haven't bought Imperial City."
"Seriously? I just spent 3 hours capturing keeps and now can't check out the reward for all that effort?" /ragequit
Summary:
Content with an in-game access restriction/reward system cannot also be behind a paywall, as it will create animosity.
Earning IC access by control of keeps has always been promoted as "the way it will work", like Darkness Falls in DAoC, so I don't see them changing that aspect of it now. It would also be detrimental if they did, as there would be no incentive to capture keeps if you couldn't cut off the other Alliances' access (and therefore had to restore your own).Edited by Enodoc on July 15, 2015 5:33PMUESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
Join us on Discord - discord.gg/uesp1 -
JD2013✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Francis_Toliver wrote: »
Yeah, $20 was my guess as well. I will be dropping my sub now though, as I made a promise to myself to only keep it going if Imperial City was free.$20 is pretty much what I expected for new zones really.
I keep a sub going, as the amount is negligible for me. £8.99 is a couple of pints a beer. *shrug*
I do wish IC was free, what with it being in the middle of the PVP zone. I did hope. But part of me knew it would be priced. ZoS are going to monetise all zones etc.
It should have been free, but sadly there is a great deal of difference between should be and is in business.
Again, I am not trying to pick a fight here, but what does its location have to do with it being free or not? Why would the fact that people pvp around it translate to "it ought to be free"? If I have a shoe store on the corner of a street should the shoes be free because people walk around it on the sidewalk? I don't understand this?
And why shouldn't new material, whether new zones or new the new dark brotherhood guild cost something? People are working to produce these things and they need to be paid. The company that is making this game (which I assume we are all enjoying, because we are playing it) needs to turn a profit for its share holders. What part of this equation doesn't make sense?
Again, I mean no offense to you, I am just curious why the thought is "it should be free" instead of "it should cost an honest payment for the product produced"? What is the thought process to your statement?
Literally the only thought process is that it is in the middle of the PVP zone and nothing more. ZOS needs money to continuously develop the game, this is one of the reasons I still sub. I want the game to keep going.
Not complaining about the price in any way. I have 6k in crowns and a sub. I could buy it if I want to. But as I'm keeping my sub I likely won't. I think $20 is very reasonable given the amount of content coming in the patch.Sweetrolls for all!
Christophe Mottierre - Breton Templar with his own whole darn estate! Templar Houses are so 2015. EU DC
PC Beta Tester January 2014
Elder of The Black
Order of Sithis
The Runners
@TamrielTraverse - For Tamriel related Twitter shenanigans!
https://tamrieltraveller.wordpress.com/
Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!0 -
newtinmpls✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Having a bad brain day...
Studying for my NP test. Having trouble with all the titer results from hepatitis, and all the symptoms of hyper or hypo thyroid.
Then I go on the boards and for some reason the "what should I do with my skills/race/build/[whatEVER]' are just grating on me like too many mosquito bites. I just want to spaz and scream and tell them to grow a spine - make a choice. It's a frikken game and you can respec for .... waionera';gna'i4ewant
Insert incoherent whiny ramble. And lots of cussing.
Yes I know I'm being unsympathetic, immature and lots of other things that I would like to be "above".
It's really a good thing I'm not working today. I'd be such an *sshole of a nurse.
Well, off to walk the dogs. Maybe getting away from a computer screen will be helpful. And happy dogs are always good.
Thanks for listening.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis2 -
Xendyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭newtinmpls wrote: »Having a bad brain day...
Studying for my NP test. Having trouble with all the titer results from hepatitis, and all the symptoms of hyper or hypo thyroid.
Then I go on the boards and for some reason the "what should I do with my skills/race/build/[whatEVER]' are just grating on me like too many mosquito bites. I just want to spaz and scream and tell them to grow a spine - make a choice. It's a frikken game and you can respec for .... waionera';gna'i4ewant
Insert incoherent whiny ramble. And lots of cussing.
Yes I know I'm being unsympathetic, immature and lots of other things that I would like to be "above".
It's really a good thing I'm not working today. I'd be such an *sshole of a nurse.
Well, off to walk the dogs. Maybe getting away from a computer screen will be helpful. And happy dogs are always good.
Thanks for listening.
For when you get back...
Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.
There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance - Socrates
Member of the Old Guard, keepers of the game's history
PC/NA0 -
newtinmpls✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭
For when you get back...
You are wonderful!
Yeah, you probably already knew that, but I thought I'd remind you.
Thank you.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
Heishi✭✭✭✭✭Every time I hear about IC I can't help but remember back before the 2.0 patch when they said IC was done, but 2.0 was already going to be so big they didn't want to make the patch size larger by including it. Then suddenly they had to start working on it again for 6 month and suddenly charge 2500 crowns for it unless you are subbed in which case if you drop sub you lose the content until you pay the 2500 crown or I guess resub?
I don't know, I'll stop there. If you don't have nothing good to say and whatnot. I will just say everytime IC comes up I'm like:
I'll just sit and eat popcorn instead
Edited by Heishi on July 15, 2015 10:41PMAnd so did many brave men, women, and beast fall to the end of Beta, never to be heard from again. All that is left, is whispers of the adventures they had.3 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well, stepped into HelRa for the first ever time tonight! Didn't quite beat it, but got to see the last boss! Woo! Pretty good for Lone Wolf Help's first attempt together (and some others
) Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord0 -
Shunravi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Well, stepped into HelRa for the first ever time tonight! Didn't quite beat it, but got to see the last boss! Woo! Pretty good for Lone Wolf Help's first attempt together (and some others)
It went well. Not bad for first timers.This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!0 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭
Ha-ha. During the pinwheel fire pass when we were split up... I totally forgot I was a vamp. Oops.newtinmpls wrote: »Having a bad brain day...
Studying for my NP test. Having trouble with all the titer results from hepatitis, and all the symptoms of hyper or hypo thyroid.
Then I go on the boards and for some reason the "what should I do with my skills/race/build/[whatEVER]' are just grating on me like too many mosquito bites. I just want to spaz and scream and tell them to grow a spine - make a choice. It's a frikken game and you can respec for .... waionera';gna'i4ewant
Insert incoherent whiny ramble. And lots of cussing.
Yes I know I'm being unsympathetic, immature and lots of other things that I would like to be "above".
It's really a good thing I'm not working today. I'd be such an *sshole of a nurse.
Well, off to walk the dogs. Maybe getting away from a computer screen will be helpful. And happy dogs are always good.
Thanks for listening.
For when you get back...
That looks soooo good...Edited by MissBizz on July 16, 2015 3:09AMLone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord0 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭0 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭your first attempt at trials in general or just hel ra?
At trials, ever. Lol same for some others in the group, some had done a few with experienced groups, and a couple knew them well. One person had just done their first vet dungeon ever last night hehe.Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord0 -
lathbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭what have you all been waiting for you have been missing out. I envy you you still have your first trial boss down to look fwd too.0 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭what have you all been waiting for you have been missing out. I envy you you still have your first trial boss down to look fwd too.
I go slow.. I have been playing since April (2014) and just got my main to VR14 a week or two ago lol I also enjoy the content.. So.. I had it in my head I wouldn't do anything Craglorn related until I was done Caldwell gold - still have 1.5 zones left. But, that went out the window. I guess I just won't quest there until I'm done gold
I have ran lots of the vet dungeons, I really enjoy the group content and am looking forward to focusing more on it... But I do love questing. Some time in 2018 I should have completed all the PvE content (and done well)... And about then I'll make my first real attempt at PvP. Lmao.Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord1 -
Xendyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Well, stepped into HelRa for the first ever time tonight! Didn't quite beat it, but got to see the last boss! Woo! Pretty good for Lone Wolf Help's first attempt together (and some others)
Well look at you Grats! Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.
There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance - Socrates
Member of the Old Guard, keepers of the game's history
PC/NA0
This discussion has been closed.