Isn't the compensation too strong?

Araneae6537

@code65536 makes good points and I can understand people being frustrated about the style pages, the limited time to grind for something with a low drop-rate with no option to buy with gold or even tickets.

But those stating that those who had their accounts locked should receive fewer endeavors, that just boggles me. What kind of miserable spiteful person is it that just wants to take away from others, even without their gaining anything thereby?

mikejezz

I've farmed throughout the entire event, and only got the sword from fishing.

Yeah I got motifs and recipes, but tbh I'd much rather want what they got.

I farmed this event and these guys gets more rewards than me who has farmed.

Gg

Hapexamendios

On console so I wasn't affected and I have no problem with it.

ArchangelIsraphel

Araneae6537 wrote: »

@code65536 makes good points and I can understand people being frustrated about the style pages, the limited time to grind for something with a low drop-rate with no option to buy with gold or even tickets.

But those stating that those who had their accounts locked should receive fewer endeavors, that just boggles me. What kind of miserable spiteful person is it that just wants to take away from others, even without their gaining anything thereby?

^This. I agree, completely.

I totally get that people are frustrated over the style pages- heck, I'm frustrated too, even though I already completed that grind. But directing all of this blatant malice at the people who are receiving rightly deserved compensation for being locked out of their accounts is just...wrong on so many levels.

These rewards are meant to make them feel better about what happened, and now they have to withstand the acidulous backlash of the community on top of the distress they already went through fearing for their accounts....because they were given something nice?

Is this seriously the friendly, giving community I've grown to love? I find it hard to recognize it right now. ESO players are usually so generously spirited. I'm seeing people who were supportive of those locked out before the compensation suddenly turning against their own after they see what they didn't get. Just...what?

The people who got compensated aren't the ones any of you should be mad at. They didn't implement the grind.

spartaxoxo

It's one thing to feel jealous. But when acting negatively on that emotion, it's important to realize it for what it is and possibly move on.

The players who are being compensated for their lost time do not deserve to have their rewards reduced just because others feel some type of way.

On average they received more than what was lost because of the stress and annoyance caused by being unfairly locked out of their accounts for trying to help. As they should.

hiyde

mikejezz wrote: »

I've farmed throughout the entire event, and only got the sword from fishing.

Yeah I got motifs and recipes, but tbh I'd much rather want what they got.

I farmed this event and these guys gets more rewards than me who has farmed.

Gg

Who said they didn't farm on the days they could? Point is, for 4+ days and counting, they can't even login.

Galiferno

mikejezz wrote: »

I've farmed throughout the entire event, and only got the sword from fishing.

Yeah I got motifs and recipes, but tbh I'd much rather want what they got.

I farmed this event and these guys gets more rewards than me who has farmed.

Gg

I was farming for as long as I could withstand it every day I could and had only gotten 2 pages so far. I would've kept farming every day since the account lockouts... if I could have lmao. It's not our fault we got locked out and were unable to login to farm.

Oblivion_Protocol

Here’s my take on the compensation. This is now the bar for a response to inconvenience. ZoS has now set a precedent. Is it a lot? It sure is. And it needs to be a lot every single time people lose out on game time because of some massive issue from here on out. After this, we the ESO community can no longer accept some XP scrolls with a “whoopsie daisie” message. Because this response will make that look like an insult rather than a joke.

sleepy_worm

ZOS did the right thing. I hope they continue with this kind of response for any potential future issues of this magnitude.

Ezhh

I would honestly love to be able to nominate someone to receive the style pages I will get. I already farmed them on EU (with the drop rates being very unkind) and while I will now gain them on NA, I care a lot less about collectibles there.

I could now choose to feel annoyed about the endless hours farming that turn out to have been for no purpose. I could also choose to be annoyed that other people who were banned are now getting them without putting in the work. After all, them being sent to me again gains me nothing and maybe if we were not getting the pages we'd have been given 20k seals instead, right?

Yet somehow I just find myself wishing they'd give the things to everyone and have done. Oh, and to get my account back again. That would be nice, but we still don't know when it will happen. All the people who seem to think we only lost two days should understand the situation a bit more before complaining.

So yes, the compensation is fair. No, the drop rates are not fair. Let's not confuse the issues.

DerAlleinTiger

mikejezz wrote: »

I've farmed throughout the entire event, and only got the sword from fishing.

Yeah I got motifs and recipes, but tbh I'd much rather want what they got.

I farmed this event and these guys gets more rewards than me who has farmed.

Gg

I can sympathize with the frustration with the grind. Genuinely. I do believe it shouldn't be a grind. No event outside of a certain free-to-play military vehicle game (if you know, you know) should be a grind. It should be fun.

However, bear in mind that it isn't like we all just went "Nah, screw the event. I won't bother. Oh, neat, I get all the rewards!" We didn't grind for these last few days because we can't even log in to grind. I wouldn't mind farming for the pages I want if I was actually able to. The problem is we physically can't, and even with the two day event extension we're already at least two days behind everyone else and that's only going to increase over the next few days depending on when they can finish the account unlocks.

MasterSpatula

I am not affected by this, and no. What happened was ZOS's fault and completely unfair, and their method of dealing with it was extremely heavy-handed. Even if the heavy-handedness was necessary, it's still an unacceptable way to treat paying customers during what's supposed to be a celebration.

The only way to come out of this without creating (and deserving) ill-will from a lot of players is by going overboard on the compensation.

I honestly thought the players affected by this were going to get a pittance, if anything, as compensation. I am thrilled to eat my words.

kargen27

Could give three or three million and there would be zero impact to my game play. Maybe I see a few more fancy mounts.

FabresFour

Basically: Having the same game installed twice and working for the company for free looking for bugs and things like that.

Just yesterday, I did the entire Scribing quest (even though it wasn't necessary to test the feature), just to look for bugs and report on the things I found. I spent 6 to 7 hours on it.

People who are jealous probably wouldn't lift a finger to try to help the game in such a way.

Whoever is complaining about this needs to understand: If they didn't compensate HEAVILLY the players, the PTS would lose a considerable number of players.

And then, when the next expansion launches, there wouldn't be as many people to test the bugs and report them. And the next content would be bugged, and we are talking about SERIOUS bugs, such as, for example, the crash in Skingrad castle, NPC's flying around the scenary, entire dialogues with voice acting cutting out.

These types of things just don't happen as much because people go into pts and waste hours, sometimes days, looking for bugs to help the game you love so much.

There's no point in complaining out of simple envy and not trying to help the game in any way, not wasting hours writing down the bugs you found or redoing the same quest several times just to see if it's real and how/when it happens.

mikejezz

hiyde wrote: »

mikejezz wrote: »

I've farmed throughout the entire event, and only got the sword from fishing.

Yeah I got motifs and recipes, but tbh I'd much rather want what they got.

I farmed this event and these guys gets more rewards than me who has farmed.

Gg

Who said they didn't farm on the days they could? Point is, for 4+ days and counting, they can't even login.

Galiferno wrote: »

mikejezz wrote: »

I've farmed throughout the entire event, and only got the sword from fishing.

Yeah I got motifs and recipes, but tbh I'd much rather want what they got.

I farmed this event and these guys gets more rewards than me who has farmed.

Gg

I was farming for as long as I could withstand it every day I could and had only gotten 2 pages so far. I would've kept farming every day since the account lockouts... if I could have lmao. It's not our fault we got locked out and were unable to login to farm.

DerAlleinTiger wrote: »

mikejezz wrote: »

I've farmed throughout the entire event, and only got the sword from fishing.

Yeah I got motifs and recipes, but tbh I'd much rather want what they got.

I farmed this event and these guys gets more rewards than me who has farmed.

Gg

I can sympathize with the frustration with the grind. Genuinely. I do believe it shouldn't be a grind. No event outside of a certain free-to-play military vehicle game (if you know, you know) should be a grind. It should be fun.

However, bear in mind that it isn't like we all just went "Nah, screw the event. I won't bother. Oh, neat, I get all the rewards!" We didn't grind for these last few days because we can't even log in to grind. I wouldn't mind farming for the pages I want if I was actually able to. The problem is we physically can't, and even with the two day event extension we're already at least two days behind everyone else and that's only going to increase over the next few days depending on when they can finish the account unlocks.

I'm not mad at people who got the compensation.

But it feels like unlucky people are being punished by zos.

You guys could have been lucky and got all the style pages for the days you were banned.

I have farmed for many, many hours. And I might end up not getting these rewards that you got as compensation, because the ring gods are not happy with me.

Yeah, I got motifs. I got some recipes.

But I would seriously trade everything I've earned for your rewards.

If a big event like an anniversary event feels unrewarding for not have been banned, then it's a pretty lame event.

moderatelyfatman

Given the level of stress and uncertainty over the bans, I'd say the compensation is generous but not excessive. Remember, a lot of players were seriously wondering if the situation was even fixable or that their accounts had been destroyed.
Players with ESO+ subscriptions had lost these too.

KaosWarMonk

Wow, jackpot!

hiyde

mikejezz wrote: »

If a big event like an anniversary event feels unrewarding for not have been banned, then it's a pretty lame event.

This is an entirely separate issue and has been discussed throughout the event and there are still active posts on this topic. Why ZOS isn't responding to any of this feedback (or doing something before it ends to ensure more people get these pages), I do not know. Wish they would, but I've given my feedback on that in the related posts.

I just don't think it's right to lump it into *this* issue, along with many people going out of their way to make people who got locked out (and are STILL locked out) feel bad about what they received.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Xandreia_ wrote: »

the people who arent getting the endevors havent been locked out for nearly (probs gonna be over) a week!!! smh what dont you guys understand lol

And those of us who have not been locked out are doing nothing but farming for these pages, THAT IS NOT FUN, if anything we are the ones doing all the work and getting nothing to show, not to mention 16,000 seals is more then a years worth of seals, these people should only get what they missed out on, being locked out for a few days isn't much especially when ZOS gave them a code to play Gold Road on the PTS.

Sakiri

Personally I think it's overkill but in the end, idc, because meh, endeavors.

The rest of it is fine. The endeavors was where it was overkill. it takes about six months to get that many.

but it doesn't affect me any, so idc.

Meh.

Alpheu5

FabresFour wrote: »

Basically: Having the same game installed twice and working for the company for free looking for bugs and things like that.

Just yesterday, I did the entire Scribing quest (even though it wasn't necessary to test the feature), just to look for bugs and report on the things I found. I spent 6 to 7 hours on it.

People who are jealous probably wouldn't lift a finger to try to help the game in such a way.

Whoever is complaining about this needs to understand: If they didn't compensate HEAVILLY the players, the PTS would lose a considerable number of players.

And then, when the next expansion launches, there wouldn't be as many people to test the bugs and report them. And the next content would be bugged, and we are talking about SERIOUS bugs, such as, for example, the crash in Skingrad castle, NPC's flying around the scenary, entire dialogues with voice acting cutting out.

These types of things just don't happen as much because people go into pts and waste hours, sometimes days, looking for bugs to help the game you love so much.

There's no point in complaining out of simple envy and not trying to help the game in any way, not wasting hours writing down the bugs you found or redoing the same quest several times just to see if it's real and how/when it happens.

Stop kidding yourself. The vast majority of people use the PTS as "early access" to upcoming features and may report a bug they happen to notice. We aren't a coalition of selfless beta testers.

nerevoryn

I'm unabashedly envious because I'm still not done grinding for the pages and I would much rather have been locked out of my account in order to have my pages. Several dozens of hours of monotonous grinding aren't fun in any way and I'd have done about anything else if I didn't want the glamour so badly.
Also because I had weeks-worth of trouble with a fumbled transfer from Steam to the DMM client and I don't even think I got compensated properly.

Good on people who are getting their rewards but god I wish they'd just get rid of that grind, wish I could forego it. This is miserable, especially for a 10th anniversary event.

BretonMage

I'm a tiny bit envious of the 16K endeavor seals but I think it's great of ZOS to show their goodwill and appreciation for the PTS testers.

And yes, I also agree that the protests show how much all the grinding - grinding for seals and for pages - has worn us down.

PapaJester

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Stop kidding yourself. The vast majority of people use the PTS as "early access" to upcoming features and may report a bug they happen to notice. We aren't a coalition of selfless beta testers.

Nah, it's not that PTS users are selfless. It's that gamers, when faced with something to complain about, will do so. It's just that during the beta testing phase, "whining & moaning," becomes useful data.

Kiyakotari

Serpari wrote: »

Now, can the rest of us get increased chances on the limited edition anniversary style pages, please? I'm at 300 dolmens and still no Staff of Worms

Agree on this part. It would be nice if they would increase the drop chances on these for the other players as well. The drops on them are far too low, and having them given to the players who are locked out is bound to cause some ruffled feathers as a result.

Otherwise - eh, do I think the compensation is too much or too little? Not my circus, not my monkeys. I wasn't one of the players who was locked out. I'm glad they're receiving compensation. I hope they're content. That's as far as it goes for me.

kargen27

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Xandreia_ wrote: »

the people who arent getting the endevors havent been locked out for nearly (probs gonna be over) a week!!! smh what dont you guys understand lol

And those of us who have not been locked out are doing nothing but farming for these pages, THAT IS NOT FUN, if anything we are the ones doing all the work and getting nothing to show, not to mention 16,000 seals is more then a years worth of seals, these people should only get what they missed out on, being locked out for a few days isn't much especially when ZOS gave them a code to play Gold Road on the PTS.

If it is not fun do not do it. This is a game created to provide fun and entertainment. The people who had their accounts locked are missing a few days of that opportunity to have fun.

Mike71

Since many are frustrated with the grind after the replicas.
Where are the long-time players who still remember the hours spent in the vows to get a piece of armor in the right trait. Guys, things have gotten so much easier now and yet people still complain. How about ZOS immediately giving everyone 3600 Cp all silence and everything else. Then we could all save ourselves playing and do something else.

16k seals are not even 16k but about 15k+ because everyone forgets to remove the seals that would have been possible at that time.

Of course a few benefit more and a few benefit less, including me. But you can't please everyone.

fastolfv_ESO

ok now wheres my compensation for not being able to login for the 200+ endeavors and daily login, i missed out on 1 day of farming aswell so i suppose thats worth the same as the people who got locked out for 2 days. At this point just give everyone this and stop this terrible event

Galiferno

fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

ok now wheres my compensation for not being able to login for the 200+ endeavors and daily login, i missed out on 1 day of farming aswell so i suppose thats worth the same as the people who got locked out for 2 days. At this point just give everyone this and stop this terrible event

Everyone on NA is getting 200 seals of endeavor for Monday and a 2 day extension to the event, so what you're asking for has already been announced. And once again, this misconception about 2 days is flatout wrong. I'm on the 4th day without my account and without any idea when my account is going to be restored.

beer781993

People are fighting each other over ZoS Actions...

Wasn't the outcome obvious?

You can't give 7 months of endeavors, eso+ inclusive crowns, gold styles, another account and gold boxes to some people and leave the rest of the community out...

Of course it's unfair! I wonder who had that glorious idea?

Give half of the endeavors and eso+ to everyone or a similar fair piece of the cake and everyone is happy.

We also experienced inconvenience. Console crashes, unstable server performance, bugs etc.

Sorry but that outcome was so obvious!

At this point all the negative backlash is deserved.