Update 43 is now available for testing on the PTS! You can read the latest patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/pts
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Feb 15 Cyrodiil Test Details

  • TheVimpi
    TheVimpi
    I'm really happy about nerfing this blocking necros. Hey, pvp gods, how do you feel now :D:D:D ?
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  • Beardimus
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    Can someone please confirm if this change affects console as well?
    The test was only done on PC and the update comment #652 only mentions PC, so it's unclear if console players should expect this change. I read through comments since the updated info was posted, but didn't find anything.

    @SavageCascadeX0
    In Gina's post it says it's staying on for PC from now and will come to console too. They haven't said when I assume they trying for the patch in two weeks.
    Xbox One | EU | EP
    Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
    Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
    1st Emperor of Ravenwatch
    Alts - - for the Lolz
    Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
    Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
    Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master

    Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
    Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
    Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders

    Xbox One | NA | EP
    Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
    Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
    Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
    Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach
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  • Mr_Arce88
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    Please clarify if '19 sets only Cyrodil' comes for consoles with U29. From your message it's not clear what will you work on: work on implementing new rulesets for U31 or work on implementing this limitation from PC on consoles?

    "To that end, we’ll be leaving proc sets disabled until Update 31 launches in Q3. At that point, we will have implemented some new code so we can have more flexibility to campaign rulesets as it applies to proc sets. We’ll work on applying all this to consoles as well, and we’ll let you know when we have a date for this starting."

    As always, the communication with players is an awful mess...
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  • synnerman
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    Katheriah wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno we were promised better communication a while ago. Why does a community manager drop this bomb on the PvP community Friday and then gives no further information?

    The post are heavily modded, but there's no actual explanation on why all Cyro campaigns will stay like this for 6 months.

    Just add a no-proc campaign. I really don't understand how people think taking the choice of about 400 sets away from all Cyro campaigns is a brilliant idea.

    You literally just killed theory crafting for your CP PvP community and force them to go IC or... to another game.

    Yeah it was a nice touch to drop this on the Forum on a Friday afternoon before the patch on Monday morning
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  • vesselwiththepestle
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    Please carify, is this the complete list of all deactivated sets?
    Aegis of Galanwe
    Aegis Caller
    Aetherial Ascension
    Adept Rider
    Affliction
    Akaviri Dragonguard
    Alessia's Bulwark
    Alessian Order
    Almalexia's Mercy
    Ancient Dragonguard
    Arch-Mage
    Archer's Mind
    Armor Master
    Armor of the Seducer
    Armor of the Veiled Heritance
    Armor of Truth
    Arms of Relequen
    Ashen Grip
    Aspect of Mazzatun
    Assassin's Guile
    Auroran’s Thunder
    Automated Defense
    Azureblight Reaper

    Bahraha's Curse
    Balorgh
    Barkskin
    Bastion of the Heartland
    Battalion Defender
    Battlefield Acrobat
    Bani's Torment
    Beckoning Steel
    Berserking Warrior
    Black Rose
    Blessing of the Potentates
    Blooddrinker
    Blood Moon
    Blood Spawn
    Bloodthorn's Touch
    Bone Pirate's Tatters
    Brands of Imperium
    Briarheart
    Bright-Throat’s Boast
    Buffer of the Swift
    Burning Spellweave

    Call of the Undertaker
    Caluurion's Legacy
    Champion of the Hists
    Chokethorn
    Claw of Yolnakhriin
    Clever Alchemist
    Coldharbour's Favorite
    Combat Physician
    Coward's Gear
    Crest of Cyrodiil
    Crusader
    Critical Riposte
    Curse Eater
    Curse of Doylemish

    Daedric Trickery
    Darkstride
    Daring Corsair
    Dauntless Combatant
    Dead-Water’s Guiles
    Deadly Strikes
    Death's Wind
    Defending Warrior
    Desert Rose
    Destructive Mage
    Domihaus
    Dragon's Appetite
    Dragon's Defilement
    Dragonguard Elite
    Draugr's Heritage
    Draugr's Rest
    Draugrkin's Grip
    Dreamer's Mantle
    Dreugh King Slayer
    Dro'Zakar's Claw
    Duneripper's Scales
    Durok's Bane

    Eagle Eye
    Earthgore
    Ebon Armory
    Elemental Succession
    Elf Bane
    Embershield
    Engine Guardian
    Essence Thief
    Eternal Hunt
    Eternal Vigor
    Eternal Warrior
    Executioner's Blade
    Explosive Rebuke H
    Eye of Nahviintaas
    Eyes of Mara

    False God’s Devotion
    Fasalla's Guile
    Fiord's Legacy
    Flanking Strategist
    Flame Blossom
    Footman's Fortune
    Fortified Brass
    Force Overflow
    Frozen Watcher
    Frenzied Momentum

    Galerion's Revenge
    Glorious Defender
    Gossamer
    Grace of Gloom
    Grave-Stake Collector
    Grave Guardian
    Green Pact
    Grothdarr
    Grundwulf
    Gryphon's Ferocity

    Hagraven's Garden
    Hand of Mephalas
    Hanu's Compassion
    Hatchling's Shell
    Hawk's Eye
    Haven of Ursus
    Healer's Habit
    Healing Mage
    Heem-Jas' Retribution
    Hex Siphon
    Hollowfang Thirst
    Hide of Morihaus
    Hide of the Werewolf
    Hircine's veneer
    Hist Bark
    Hiti's Hearth
    Hunt Leader

    Ice Furnace
    Iceheart
    Icy Conjuror
    Ilambris
    Immortal Warrior
    Imperial Physique
    Indomitable Fury
    Infallible Mage L
    Infector
    Infernal Guardian
    Innate Axiom
    Inventor's Guard morrowind-set
    Ironblood

    Jailbreaker
    Jailer's Tenacity
    Jolting Arms
    Jorvuld's Guidance
    Juggernaut

    Kagrenac's Hope
    Kjalnar's Nightmare
    Knight Slayer
    Knight-Errant's Mail
    Knightmare
    Kra'gh
    Kvatch Gladiator
    Kyne's Kiss
    Kyne's Wind

    Lamia's Song
    Leeching Plate
    Leki's Focus
    Legacy of Karth
    Light of Cyrodiil
    Light Speaker
    Livewire
    Lord Warden
    Lunar Bastion

    Maarselok
    Mad Tinkerer
    Magicka Furnace
    Magnus' Gift
    Mantle of Siroria
    Mark of the Pariah
    Marksman's Crest
    Marauder’s Haste
    Master Architect
    Maw of the Infernal
    Mechanical Acuity
    Medusa
    Meridia’s Blessed
    Meritorious Service
    Might of the Lost Legion
    Mighty Chudan
    Mighty Glacier
    Molag Kena
    Moondancer
    Moon Hunter
    Morag Tong
    Morkuldin
    Mother Ciannait

    Naga Shaman
    Necropotence
    Nerien'eth
    Netch's Touch
    New Moon Acolyte
    Night Mother's Embrace
    Night Mother's Gaze
    Night Terror
    Night's Silence
    Nightflame
    Nikulas'
    Noble Duelist's Silks
    Noble's Conquest
    Nocturnal's Favor

    Oblivion's Edge
    Oblivion's Foe
    Order of Diagna
    Orgnum's Scales
    Overwhelming Surge

    Para Bellum
    Pelinal's Aptitude
    Permafrost
    Pestilent Host
    Pillar of Nirn
    Phoenix
    Pirate Skeleton
    Plague Slinger
    Poisonous Serpent
    Point-Blank Snipe
    Powerful Assault
    Prayer Shawl
    Prisoner's Rags

    Queen's Elegance
    Quick Serpent

    Ranger's Gait
    Rattlecage
    Ravager
    Radiant Bastion
    Reactive Armor
    Redistributor
    Red Eagle's Fury
    Renald's Resolve
    Roaring Opportunist
    Roar of Alkosh
    Robes of Alteration Mastery
    Robes of Destruction Mastery
    Robes of the Hist
    Robes of the Withered Hand
    Robes of Transmutation

    Salvation
    Sanctuary
    Savage Werewolf
    Scathing Mage
    Scavenging Demise
    Scourge Harverster
    Selene
    Sellistrix
    Senche's Bite
    Senche-raht’s Grit
    Senchal Defender
    Sentinel of Rkugamz
    Sentry
    Sergeant's Mail
    Seventh Legion Brute
    Shadow Dancer's Raiment
    Shadow of the Red Mountain
    Shadow Walker
    Shadowrend
    Shalidor's Curse
    Shalk Exoskeleton
    Sheer Venom
    Shield Breaker
    Shield of the Valiant
    Shroud of the Lich
    Silks of the Sun
    Sithis' Touch
    Skooma Smuggler
    Slimecraw
    Sload’s Semblance
    Soldier of Anguish
    Song of Lamae
    Soulshine
    Spawn of Mephala
    Spectre's Eye
    Spell Strategists
    Spell Parasite
    Spell Power Cure
    Spelunker
    Spider Cultist Cowl
    Stendarr's Embrace
    Stonekeeper
    Storm Knight's
    Storm Master
    Stormfist
    Strength of the Automaton
    Stuhn's Favor
    Stygian
    Sunderflame
    Swamp Raider
    Swarm Mother
    Sword Dancer
    Sword-Singer
    Symphony of Blades
    Syrabane's Grip
    Syvarra's Scales

    Tava's Favor
    Thews of the Harbringer
    Thunderbug's Carapace
    Thurvokun
    Titanborn Strength
    Tooth of Lokkestiiz
    Toothrow
    Tormentor
    Torug's Pact
    Trappings of Invigoration
    Treasure Hunter
    Tremorscale
    Trial by Fire
    Trinimac's Valor
    Troll King
    Twice-Born Star
    Twice-Fanged Serpent
    Twilight Remedy
    Twilight's Embrace
    Twin Sisters M
    Tzogvin’s Warband

    Ulfnor's Favor
    Unchained Aggressor
    Undaunted Bastion
    Undaunted Infiltrator
    Undaunted Unweaver
    Unfathomable Darkness

    Valkyn Skoria
    Vampire Cloak
    Vampire Lord
    Vampire's Kiss
    Vanguard’s Challenge
    Varen's Legacy
    Vastarie’s Tutelage
    Velidreth
    Vengeance Leech
    Venomous Smite
    Vestment of Olorime
    Vestments of the Warlock
    Vestures of Darloc Brae
    Voidcaller Set
    Void Bash
    Vicecannon of Venom
    Vicious Death
    Vicious Serpent
    Viper's Sting
    Vrol's Command
    Vykosa

    War Machine
    War Maiden
    Ward of Cyrodiil
    Warrior Poet
    Warrior's Fury
    Way of Air
    Way of Fire
    Way of Martial Knowledge
    Way of the Arena
    Whitestrake's Retribution
    Widowmakers
    Wilderqueen's Arch
    Willow's Path
    Winterborn
    Winter's Respite
    Wisdom of Vanus
    Wise Mage
    Witchman
    Witch-Knight's Defiance
    Wizard’s Riposte
    Worm's Raiment
    Wrath of the Imperium
    Wrath of Elements
    Wyrd Tree's Blessing

    Yandir's Might
    Ysgramor's Birthright

    Zaan
    Z'en's Redress

    [Edited to reduce Spam]
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on March 7, 2021 2:23PM
    1000+ CP
    PC/EU Ravenwatch Daggerfall Covenant

    Give me my wings back!
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  • The_Lex
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    Amazing perspective when you list them out like that. Wow.
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  • nuttytom
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    disable cross healing and this might be fun
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  • Cyrdemaceb17_ESO
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    Please carify, is this the complete list of all deactivated sets?
    Aegis of Galanwe
    Aegis Caller
    Aetherial Ascension
    Adept Rider
    Affliction
    Akaviri Dragonguard
    Alessia's Bulwark
    Alessian Order
    Almalexia's Mercy
    Ancient Dragonguard
    Arch-Mage
    Archer's Mind
    Armor Master
    Armor of the Seducer
    Armor of the Veiled Heritance
    Armor of Truth
    Arms of Relequen
    Ashen Grip
    Aspect of Mazzatun
    Assassin's Guile
    Auroran’s Thunder
    Automated Defense
    Azureblight Reaper

    Bahraha's Curse
    Balorgh
    Barkskin
    Bastion of the Heartland
    Battalion Defender
    Battlefield Acrobat
    Bani's Torment
    Beckoning Steel
    Berserking Warrior
    Black Rose
    Blessing of the Potentates
    Blooddrinker
    Blood Moon
    Blood Spawn
    Bloodthorn's Touch
    Bone Pirate's Tatters
    Brands of Imperium
    Briarheart
    Bright-Throat’s Boast
    Buffer of the Swift
    Burning Spellweave

    Call of the Undertaker
    Caluurion's Legacy
    Champion of the Hists
    Chokethorn
    Claw of Yolnakhriin
    Clever Alchemist
    Coldharbour's Favorite
    Combat Physician
    Coward's Gear
    Crest of Cyrodiil
    Crusader
    Critical Riposte
    Curse Eater
    Curse of Doylemish

    Daedric Trickery
    Darkstride
    Daring Corsair
    Dauntless Combatant
    Dead-Water’s Guiles
    Deadly Strikes
    Death's Wind
    Defending Warrior
    Desert Rose
    Destructive Mage
    Domihaus
    Dragon's Appetite
    Dragon's Defilement
    Dragonguard Elite
    Draugr's Heritage
    Draugr's Rest
    Draugrkin's Grip
    Dreamer's Mantle
    Dreugh King Slayer
    Dro'Zakar's Claw
    Duneripper's Scales
    Durok's Bane

    Eagle Eye
    Earthgore
    Ebon Armory
    Elemental Succession
    Elf Bane
    Embershield
    Engine Guardian
    Essence Thief
    Eternal Hunt
    Eternal Vigor
    Eternal Warrior
    Executioner's Blade
    Explosive Rebuke H
    Eye of Nahviintaas
    Eyes of Mara

    False God’s Devotion
    Fasalla's Guile
    Fiord's Legacy
    Flanking Strategist
    Flame Blossom
    Footman's Fortune
    Fortified Brass
    Force Overflow
    Frozen Watcher
    Frenzied Momentum

    Galerion's Revenge
    Glorious Defender
    Gossamer
    Grace of Gloom
    Grave-Stake Collector
    Grave Guardian
    Green Pact
    Grothdarr
    Grundwulf
    Gryphon's Ferocity

    Hagraven's Garden
    Hand of Mephalas
    Hanu's Compassion
    Hatchling's Shell
    Hawk's Eye
    Haven of Ursus
    Healer's Habit
    Healing Mage
    Heem-Jas' Retribution
    Hex Siphon
    Hollowfang Thirst
    Hide of Morihaus
    Hide of the Werewolf
    Hircine's veneer
    Hist Bark
    Hiti's Hearth
    Hunt Leader

    Ice Furnace
    Iceheart
    Icy Conjuror
    Ilambris
    Immortal Warrior
    Imperial Physique
    Indomitable Fury
    Infallible Mage L
    Infector
    Infernal Guardian
    Innate Axiom
    Inventor's Guard morrowind-set
    Ironblood

    Jailbreaker
    Jailer's Tenacity
    Jolting Arms
    Jorvuld's Guidance
    Juggernaut

    Kagrenac's Hope
    Kjalnar's Nightmare
    Knight Slayer
    Knight-Errant's Mail
    Knightmare
    Kra'gh
    Kvatch Gladiator
    Kyne's Kiss
    Kyne's Wind

    Lamia's Song
    Leeching Plate
    Leki's Focus
    Legacy of Karth
    Light of Cyrodiil
    Light Speaker
    Livewire
    Lord Warden
    Lunar Bastion

    Maarselok
    Mad Tinkerer
    Magicka Furnace
    Magnus' Gift
    Mantle of Siroria
    Mark of the Pariah
    Marksman's Crest
    Marauder’s Haste
    Master Architect
    Maw of the Infernal
    Mechanical Acuity
    Medusa
    Meridia’s Blessed
    Meritorious Service
    Might of the Lost Legion
    Mighty Chudan
    Mighty Glacier
    Molag Kena
    Moondancer
    Moon Hunter
    Morag Tong
    Morkuldin
    Mother Ciannait

    Naga Shaman
    Necropotence
    Nerien'eth
    Netch's Touch
    New Moon Acolyte
    Night Mother's Embrace
    Night Mother's Gaze
    Night Terror
    Night's Silence
    Nightflame
    Nikulas'
    Noble Duelist's Silks
    Noble's Conquest
    Nocturnal's Favor

    Oblivion's Edge
    Oblivion's Foe
    Order of Diagna
    Orgnum's Scales
    Overwhelming Surge

    Para Bellum
    Pelinal's Aptitude
    Permafrost
    Pestilent Host
    Pillar of Nirn
    Phoenix
    Pirate Skeleton
    Plague Slinger
    Poisonous Serpent
    Point-Blank Snipe
    Powerful Assault
    Prayer Shawl
    Prisoner's Rags

    Queen's Elegance
    Quick Serpent

    Ranger's Gait
    Rattlecage
    Ravager
    Radiant Bastion
    Reactive Armor
    Redistributor
    Red Eagle's Fury
    Renald's Resolve
    Roaring Opportunist
    Roar of Alkosh
    Robes of Alteration Mastery
    Robes of Destruction Mastery
    Robes of the Hist
    Robes of the Withered Hand
    Robes of Transmutation

    Salvation
    Sanctuary
    Savage Werewolf
    Scathing Mage
    Scavenging Demise
    Scourge Harverster
    Selene
    Sellistrix
    Senche's Bite
    Senche-raht’s Grit
    Senchal Defender
    Sentinel of Rkugamz
    Sentry
    Sergeant's Mail
    Seventh Legion Brute
    Shadow Dancer's Raiment
    Shadow of the Red Mountain
    Shadow Walker
    Shadowrend
    Shalidor's Curse
    Shalk Exoskeleton
    Sheer Venom
    Shield Breaker
    Shield of the Valiant
    Shroud of the Lich
    Silks of the Sun
    Sithis' Touch
    Skooma Smuggler
    Slimecraw
    Sload’s Semblance
    Soldier of Anguish
    Song of Lamae
    Soulshine
    Spawn of Mephala
    Spectre's Eye
    Spell Strategists
    Spell Parasite
    Spell Power Cure
    Spelunker
    Spider Cultist Cowl
    Stendarr's Embrace
    Stonekeeper
    Storm Knight's
    Storm Master
    Stormfist
    Strength of the Automaton
    Stuhn's Favor
    Stygian
    Sunderflame
    Swamp Raider
    Swarm Mother
    Sword Dancer
    Sword-Singer
    Symphony of Blades
    Syrabane's Grip
    Syvarra's Scales

    Tava's Favor
    Thews of the Harbringer
    Thunderbug's Carapace
    Thurvokun
    Titanborn Strength
    Tooth of Lokkestiiz
    Toothrow
    Tormentor
    Torug's Pact
    Trappings of Invigoration
    Treasure Hunter
    Tremorscale
    Trial by Fire
    Trinimac's Valor
    Troll King
    Twice-Born Star
    Twice-Fanged Serpent
    Twilight Remedy
    Twilight's Embrace
    Twin Sisters M
    Tzogvin’s Warband

    Ulfnor's Favor
    Unchained Aggressor
    Undaunted Bastion
    Undaunted Infiltrator
    Undaunted Unweaver
    Unfathomable Darkness

    Valkyn Skoria
    Vampire Cloak
    Vampire Lord
    Vampire's Kiss
    Vanguard’s Challenge
    Varen's Legacy
    Vastarie’s Tutelage
    Velidreth
    Vengeance Leech
    Venomous Smite
    Vestment of Olorime
    Vestments of the Warlock
    Vestures of Darloc Brae
    Voidcaller Set
    Void Bash
    Vicecannon of Venom
    Vicious Death
    Vicious Serpent
    Viper's Sting
    Vrol's Command
    Vykosa

    War Machine
    War Maiden
    Ward of Cyrodiil
    Warrior Poet
    Warrior's Fury
    Way of Air
    Way of Fire
    Way of Martial Knowledge
    Way of the Arena
    Whitestrake's Retribution
    Widowmakers
    Wilderqueen's Arch
    Willow's Path
    Winterborn
    Winter's Respite
    Wisdom of Vanus
    Wise Mage
    Witchman
    Witch-Knight's Defiance
    Wizard’s Riposte
    Worm's Raiment
    Wrath of the Imperium
    Wrath of Elements
    Wyrd Tree's Blessing

    Yandir's Might
    Ysgramor's Birthright

    Zaan
    Z'en's Redress

    Impressive list. Add all MYTHICAL Items and all ARENA WEAPON SETS to the list and you have them all.
    Just for clarification, the 5-pieces bonus is deactivated on these (2-piece on Monster helmets/Arena Weapons - Mythical Set Bonus completly inactive) , the first ones on the Sets usually work (except Arnena Weapons and Mythicals), WHEN they are not also procs /serverchecks.

    So the list is even longer
    Edited by Cyrdemaceb17_ESO on March 7, 2021 8:04PM
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  • Jayserix
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    Please carify, is this the complete list of all deactivated sets?
    Aegis of Galanwe
    Aegis Caller
    Aetherial Ascension
    Adept Rider
    Affliction
    Akaviri Dragonguard
    Alessia's Bulwark
    Alessian Order
    Almalexia's Mercy
    Ancient Dragonguard
    Arch-Mage
    Archer's Mind
    Armor Master
    Armor of the Seducer
    Armor of the Veiled Heritance
    Armor of Truth
    Arms of Relequen
    Ashen Grip
    Aspect of Mazzatun
    Assassin's Guile
    Auroran’s Thunder
    Automated Defense
    Azureblight Reaper

    Bahraha's Curse
    Balorgh
    Barkskin
    Bastion of the Heartland
    Battalion Defender
    Battlefield Acrobat
    Bani's Torment
    Beckoning Steel
    Berserking Warrior
    Black Rose
    Blessing of the Potentates
    Blooddrinker
    Blood Moon
    Blood Spawn
    Bloodthorn's Touch
    Bone Pirate's Tatters
    Brands of Imperium
    Briarheart
    Bright-Throat’s Boast
    Buffer of the Swift
    Burning Spellweave

    Call of the Undertaker
    Caluurion's Legacy
    Champion of the Hists
    Chokethorn
    Claw of Yolnakhriin
    Clever Alchemist
    Coldharbour's Favorite
    Combat Physician
    Coward's Gear
    Crest of Cyrodiil
    Crusader
    Critical Riposte
    Curse Eater
    Curse of Doylemish

    Daedric Trickery
    Darkstride
    Daring Corsair
    Dauntless Combatant
    Dead-Water’s Guiles
    Deadly Strikes
    Death's Wind
    Defending Warrior
    Desert Rose
    Destructive Mage
    Domihaus
    Dragon's Appetite
    Dragon's Defilement
    Dragonguard Elite
    Draugr's Heritage
    Draugr's Rest
    Draugrkin's Grip
    Dreamer's Mantle
    Dreugh King Slayer
    Dro'Zakar's Claw
    Duneripper's Scales
    Durok's Bane

    Eagle Eye
    Earthgore
    Ebon Armory
    Elemental Succession
    Elf Bane
    Embershield
    Engine Guardian
    Essence Thief
    Eternal Hunt
    Eternal Vigor
    Eternal Warrior
    Executioner's Blade
    Explosive Rebuke H
    Eye of Nahviintaas
    Eyes of Mara

    False God’s Devotion
    Fasalla's Guile
    Fiord's Legacy
    Flanking Strategist
    Flame Blossom
    Footman's Fortune
    Fortified Brass
    Force Overflow
    Frozen Watcher
    Frenzied Momentum

    Galerion's Revenge
    Glorious Defender
    Gossamer
    Grace of Gloom
    Grave-Stake Collector
    Grave Guardian
    Green Pact
    Grothdarr
    Grundwulf
    Gryphon's Ferocity

    Hagraven's Garden
    Hand of Mephalas
    Hanu's Compassion
    Hatchling's Shell
    Hawk's Eye
    Haven of Ursus
    Healer's Habit
    Healing Mage
    Heem-Jas' Retribution
    Hex Siphon
    Hollowfang Thirst
    Hide of Morihaus
    Hide of the Werewolf
    Hircine's veneer
    Hist Bark
    Hiti's Hearth
    Hunt Leader

    Ice Furnace
    Iceheart
    Icy Conjuror
    Ilambris
    Immortal Warrior
    Imperial Physique
    Indomitable Fury
    Infallible Mage L
    Infector
    Infernal Guardian
    Innate Axiom
    Inventor's Guard morrowind-set
    Ironblood

    Jailbreaker
    Jailer's Tenacity
    Jolting Arms
    Jorvuld's Guidance
    Juggernaut

    Kagrenac's Hope
    Kjalnar's Nightmare
    Knight Slayer
    Knight-Errant's Mail
    Knightmare
    Kra'gh
    Kvatch Gladiator
    Kyne's Kiss
    Kyne's Wind

    Lamia's Song
    Leeching Plate
    Leki's Focus
    Legacy of Karth
    Light of Cyrodiil
    Light Speaker
    Livewire
    Lord Warden
    Lunar Bastion

    Maarselok
    Mad Tinkerer
    Magicka Furnace
    Magnus' Gift
    Mantle of Siroria
    Mark of the Pariah
    Marksman's Crest
    Marauder’s Haste
    Master Architect
    Maw of the Infernal
    Mechanical Acuity
    Medusa
    Meridia’s Blessed
    Meritorious Service
    Might of the Lost Legion
    Mighty Chudan
    Mighty Glacier
    Molag Kena
    Moondancer
    Moon Hunter
    Morag Tong
    Morkuldin
    Mother Ciannait

    Naga Shaman
    Necropotence
    Nerien'eth
    Netch's Touch
    New Moon Acolyte
    Night Mother's Embrace
    Night Mother's Gaze
    Night Terror
    Night's Silence
    Nightflame
    Nikulas'
    Noble Duelist's Silks
    Noble's Conquest
    Nocturnal's Favor

    Oblivion's Edge
    Oblivion's Foe
    Order of Diagna
    Orgnum's Scales
    Overwhelming Surge

    Para Bellum
    Pelinal's Aptitude
    Permafrost
    Pestilent Host
    Pillar of Nirn
    Phoenix
    Pirate Skeleton
    Plague Slinger
    Poisonous Serpent
    Point-Blank Snipe
    Powerful Assault
    Prayer Shawl
    Prisoner's Rags

    Queen's Elegance
    Quick Serpent

    Ranger's Gait
    Rattlecage
    Ravager
    Radiant Bastion
    Reactive Armor
    Redistributor
    Red Eagle's Fury
    Renald's Resolve
    Roaring Opportunist
    Roar of Alkosh
    Robes of Alteration Mastery
    Robes of Destruction Mastery
    Robes of the Hist
    Robes of the Withered Hand
    Robes of Transmutation

    Salvation
    Sanctuary
    Savage Werewolf
    Scathing Mage
    Scavenging Demise
    Scourge Harverster
    Selene
    Sellistrix
    Senche's Bite
    Senche-raht’s Grit
    Senchal Defender
    Sentinel of Rkugamz
    Sentry
    Sergeant's Mail
    Seventh Legion Brute
    Shadow Dancer's Raiment
    Shadow of the Red Mountain
    Shadow Walker
    Shadowrend
    Shalidor's Curse
    Shalk Exoskeleton
    Sheer Venom
    Shield Breaker
    Shield of the Valiant
    Shroud of the Lich
    Silks of the Sun
    Sithis' Touch
    Skooma Smuggler
    Slimecraw
    Sload’s Semblance
    Soldier of Anguish
    Song of Lamae
    Soulshine
    Spawn of Mephala
    Spectre's Eye
    Spell Strategists
    Spell Parasite
    Spell Power Cure
    Spelunker
    Spider Cultist Cowl
    Stendarr's Embrace
    Stonekeeper
    Storm Knight's
    Storm Master
    Stormfist
    Strength of the Automaton
    Stuhn's Favor
    Stygian
    Sunderflame
    Swamp Raider
    Swarm Mother
    Sword Dancer
    Sword-Singer
    Symphony of Blades
    Syrabane's Grip
    Syvarra's Scales

    Tava's Favor
    Thews of the Harbringer
    Thunderbug's Carapace
    Thurvokun
    Titanborn Strength
    Tooth of Lokkestiiz
    Toothrow
    Tormentor
    Torug's Pact
    Trappings of Invigoration
    Treasure Hunter
    Tremorscale
    Trial by Fire
    Trinimac's Valor
    Troll King
    Twice-Born Star
    Twice-Fanged Serpent
    Twilight Remedy
    Twilight's Embrace
    Twin Sisters M
    Tzogvin’s Warband

    Ulfnor's Favor
    Unchained Aggressor
    Undaunted Bastion
    Undaunted Infiltrator
    Undaunted Unweaver
    Unfathomable Darkness

    Valkyn Skoria
    Vampire Cloak
    Vampire Lord
    Vampire's Kiss
    Vanguard’s Challenge
    Varen's Legacy
    Vastarie’s Tutelage
    Velidreth
    Vengeance Leech
    Venomous Smite
    Vestment of Olorime
    Vestments of the Warlock
    Vestures of Darloc Brae
    Voidcaller Set
    Void Bash
    Vicecannon of Venom
    Vicious Death
    Vicious Serpent
    Viper's Sting
    Vrol's Command
    Vykosa

    War Machine
    War Maiden
    Ward of Cyrodiil
    Warrior Poet
    Warrior's Fury
    Way of Air
    Way of Fire
    Way of Martial Knowledge
    Way of the Arena
    Whitestrake's Retribution
    Widowmakers
    Wilderqueen's Arch
    Willow's Path
    Winterborn
    Winter's Respite
    Wisdom of Vanus
    Wise Mage
    Witchman
    Witch-Knight's Defiance
    Wizard’s Riposte
    Worm's Raiment
    Wrath of the Imperium
    Wrath of Elements
    Wyrd Tree's Blessing

    Yandir's Might
    Ysgramor's Birthright

    Zaan
    Z'en's Redress

    Irrelevant, what's the percentage of those sets in use in pvp circles ? In high BG MMR ? In ballgroups ? For smallscalers ?
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on March 7, 2021 2:25PM
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  • techyeshic
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    nuttytom wrote: »
    Gilvoth wrote: »
    Nidhoeggr wrote: »
    We’ve heard from a lot of you that despite performance largely being the same, disabling proc sets has breathed new life into PvP gameplay and has made fights more enjoyable and fun. To that end, we’ll be leaving proc sets disabled until Update 31 launches in Q3.



    Is there a plan to reenable some sets that don't really proc but have conditions like Bright-Throat, New Moon...? I would really like to see that because this sets don't give "free" damage or heal; however, they give way more flexibility in building our setups.

    so, your saying new moon does not give free damage?

    New Moon Acolyte

    LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160

    (2 items) 833 Weapon and Spell Critical
    (3 items) 129 Weapon and Spell Damage
    (4 items) 1487 Physical and Spell Penetration
    (5 items) Adds 401 Weapon and Spell Damage. Increase the cost of your active abilities by 5%.

    and you are also saying bright throat does not give free damage?

    Bright-Throat's Boast
    LEVEL 50 - CP 160
    Type Overland
    Set bonus
    (2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
    (3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
    (4 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
    (5 items) While you have a drink buff active, your Maximum Magicka is increased by 2000 and Magicka Recovery by 167.


    That’s literally not what he means

    In B4 they argue that 400 damage which adds not even 1k total damage to entire active abilities is somehow the same as a proc adding 2k DPS or more
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  • Cyrdemaceb17_ESO
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    Jayserix wrote: »
    Please carify, is this the complete list of all deactivated sets?

    Aegis of Galanwe
    Aegis Caller
    Aetherial Ascension

    ...
    ...

    Yandir's Might
    Ysgramor's Birthright

    Zaan
    Z'en's Redress

    Irrelevant, what's the percentage of those sets in use in pvp circles ? In high BG MMR ? In ballgroups ? For smallscalers ?

    I counted at least 80 sets wich were used in Cyrodiil (seen by others, by myself and by friends orders/pleas to craft/farm them). Some were used by ballgroups, some for solo vpvp, smallscale, depending on the players abilities and playstyle. I cannot say anything about BGs, since I don't do them, never liked them. And I am sure there are more used wich I never recognised.
    Taking something away just because you don't use it, is never a good argument.
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  • Jayserix
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    Jayserix wrote: »
    Please carify, is this the complete list of all deactivated sets?

    Aegis of Galanwe
    Aegis Caller
    Aetherial Ascension

    ...
    ...

    Yandir's Might
    Ysgramor's Birthright

    Zaan
    Z'en's Redress

    Irrelevant, what's the percentage of those sets in use in pvp circles ? In high BG MMR ? In ballgroups ? For smallscalers ?

    I counted at least 80 sets wich were used in Cyrodiil (seen by others, by myself and by friends orders/pleas to craft/farm them). Some were used by ballgroups, some for solo vpvp, smallscale, depending on the players abilities and playstyle. I cannot say anything about BGs, since I don't do them, never liked them. And I am sure there are more used wich I never recognised.
    Taking something away just because you don't use it, is never a good argument.

    Agreed, let's keep some semblance of realism here. The vast majority of them weren't even looked at by pvpers. Is it important to rework how certain sets are implemented ofc.

    [snip]

    [Edited to remove Bashing]
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on March 7, 2021 2:59PM
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  • Fawn4287
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    Jayserix wrote: »
    Please carify, is this the complete list of all deactivated sets?
    Aegis of Galanwe
    Aegis Caller
    Aetherial Ascension
    Adept Rider
    Affliction
    Akaviri Dragonguard
    Alessia's Bulwark
    Alessian Order
    Almalexia's Mercy
    Ancient Dragonguard
    Arch-Mage
    Archer's Mind
    Armor Master
    Armor of the Seducer
    Armor of the Veiled Heritance
    Armor of Truth
    Arms of Relequen
    Ashen Grip
    Aspect of Mazzatun
    Assassin's Guile
    Auroran’s Thunder
    Automated Defense
    Azureblight Reaper

    Bahraha's Curse
    Balorgh
    Barkskin
    Bastion of the Heartland
    Battalion Defender
    Battlefield Acrobat
    Bani's Torment
    Beckoning Steel
    Berserking Warrior
    Black Rose
    Blessing of the Potentates
    Blooddrinker
    Blood Moon
    Blood Spawn
    Bloodthorn's Touch
    Bone Pirate's Tatters
    Brands of Imperium
    Briarheart
    Bright-Throat’s Boast
    Buffer of the Swift
    Burning Spellweave

    Call of the Undertaker
    Caluurion's Legacy
    Champion of the Hists
    Chokethorn
    Claw of Yolnakhriin
    Clever Alchemist
    Coldharbour's Favorite
    Combat Physician
    Coward's Gear
    Crest of Cyrodiil
    Crusader
    Critical Riposte
    Curse Eater
    Curse of Doylemish

    Daedric Trickery
    Darkstride
    Daring Corsair
    Dauntless Combatant
    Dead-Water’s Guiles
    Deadly Strikes
    Death's Wind
    Defending Warrior
    Desert Rose
    Destructive Mage
    Domihaus
    Dragon's Appetite
    Dragon's Defilement
    Dragonguard Elite
    Draugr's Heritage
    Draugr's Rest
    Draugrkin's Grip
    Dreamer's Mantle
    Dreugh King Slayer
    Dro'Zakar's Claw
    Duneripper's Scales
    Durok's Bane

    Eagle Eye
    Earthgore
    Ebon Armory
    Elemental Succession
    Elf Bane
    Embershield
    Engine Guardian
    Essence Thief
    Eternal Hunt
    Eternal Vigor
    Eternal Warrior
    Executioner's Blade
    Explosive Rebuke H
    Eye of Nahviintaas
    Eyes of Mara

    False God’s Devotion
    Fasalla's Guile
    Fiord's Legacy
    Flanking Strategist
    Flame Blossom
    Footman's Fortune
    Fortified Brass
    Force Overflow
    Frozen Watcher
    Frenzied Momentum

    Galerion's Revenge
    Glorious Defender
    Gossamer
    Grace of Gloom
    Grave-Stake Collector
    Grave Guardian
    Green Pact
    Grothdarr
    Grundwulf
    Gryphon's Ferocity

    Hagraven's Garden
    Hand of Mephalas
    Hanu's Compassion
    Hatchling's Shell
    Hawk's Eye
    Haven of Ursus
    Healer's Habit
    Healing Mage
    Heem-Jas' Retribution
    Hex Siphon
    Hollowfang Thirst
    Hide of Morihaus
    Hide of the Werewolf
    Hircine's veneer
    Hist Bark
    Hiti's Hearth
    Hunt Leader

    Ice Furnace
    Iceheart
    Icy Conjuror
    Ilambris
    Immortal Warrior
    Imperial Physique
    Indomitable Fury
    Infallible Mage L
    Infector
    Infernal Guardian
    Innate Axiom
    Inventor's Guard morrowind-set
    Ironblood

    Jailbreaker
    Jailer's Tenacity
    Jolting Arms
    Jorvuld's Guidance
    Juggernaut

    Kagrenac's Hope
    Kjalnar's Nightmare
    Knight Slayer
    Knight-Errant's Mail
    Knightmare
    Kra'gh
    Kvatch Gladiator
    Kyne's Kiss
    Kyne's Wind

    Lamia's Song
    Leeching Plate
    Leki's Focus
    Legacy of Karth
    Light of Cyrodiil
    Light Speaker
    Livewire
    Lord Warden
    Lunar Bastion

    Maarselok
    Mad Tinkerer
    Magicka Furnace
    Magnus' Gift
    Mantle of Siroria
    Mark of the Pariah
    Marksman's Crest
    Marauder’s Haste
    Master Architect
    Maw of the Infernal
    Mechanical Acuity
    Medusa
    Meridia’s Blessed
    Meritorious Service
    Might of the Lost Legion
    Mighty Chudan
    Mighty Glacier
    Molag Kena
    Moondancer
    Moon Hunter
    Morag Tong
    Morkuldin
    Mother Ciannait

    Naga Shaman
    Necropotence
    Nerien'eth
    Netch's Touch
    New Moon Acolyte
    Night Mother's Embrace
    Night Mother's Gaze
    Night Terror
    Night's Silence
    Nightflame
    Nikulas'
    Noble Duelist's Silks
    Noble's Conquest
    Nocturnal's Favor

    Oblivion's Edge
    Oblivion's Foe
    Order of Diagna
    Orgnum's Scales
    Overwhelming Surge

    Para Bellum
    Pelinal's Aptitude
    Permafrost
    Pestilent Host
    Pillar of Nirn
    Phoenix
    Pirate Skeleton
    Plague Slinger
    Poisonous Serpent
    Point-Blank Snipe
    Powerful Assault
    Prayer Shawl
    Prisoner's Rags

    Queen's Elegance
    Quick Serpent

    Ranger's Gait
    Rattlecage
    Ravager
    Radiant Bastion
    Reactive Armor
    Redistributor
    Red Eagle's Fury
    Renald's Resolve
    Roaring Opportunist
    Roar of Alkosh
    Robes of Alteration Mastery
    Robes of Destruction Mastery
    Robes of the Hist
    Robes of the Withered Hand
    Robes of Transmutation

    Salvation
    Sanctuary
    Savage Werewolf
    Scathing Mage
    Scavenging Demise
    Scourge Harverster
    Selene
    Sellistrix
    Senche's Bite
    Senche-raht’s Grit
    Senchal Defender
    Sentinel of Rkugamz
    Sentry
    Sergeant's Mail
    Seventh Legion Brute
    Shadow Dancer's Raiment
    Shadow of the Red Mountain
    Shadow Walker
    Shadowrend
    Shalidor's Curse
    Shalk Exoskeleton
    Sheer Venom
    Shield Breaker
    Shield of the Valiant
    Shroud of the Lich
    Silks of the Sun
    Sithis' Touch
    Skooma Smuggler
    Slimecraw
    Sload’s Semblance
    Soldier of Anguish
    Song of Lamae
    Soulshine
    Spawn of Mephala
    Spectre's Eye
    Spell Strategists
    Spell Parasite
    Spell Power Cure
    Spelunker
    Spider Cultist Cowl
    Stendarr's Embrace
    Stonekeeper
    Storm Knight's
    Storm Master
    Stormfist
    Strength of the Automaton
    Stuhn's Favor
    Stygian
    Sunderflame
    Swamp Raider
    Swarm Mother
    Sword Dancer
    Sword-Singer
    Symphony of Blades
    Syrabane's Grip
    Syvarra's Scales

    Tava's Favor
    Thews of the Harbringer
    Thunderbug's Carapace
    Thurvokun
    Titanborn Strength
    Tooth of Lokkestiiz
    Toothrow
    Tormentor
    Torug's Pact
    Trappings of Invigoration
    Treasure Hunter
    Tremorscale
    Trial by Fire
    Trinimac's Valor
    Troll King
    Twice-Born Star
    Twice-Fanged Serpent
    Twilight Remedy
    Twilight's Embrace
    Twin Sisters M
    Tzogvin’s Warband

    Ulfnor's Favor
    Unchained Aggressor
    Undaunted Bastion
    Undaunted Infiltrator
    Undaunted Unweaver
    Unfathomable Darkness

    Valkyn Skoria
    Vampire Cloak
    Vampire Lord
    Vampire's Kiss
    Vanguard’s Challenge
    Varen's Legacy
    Vastarie’s Tutelage
    Velidreth
    Vengeance Leech
    Venomous Smite
    Vestment of Olorime
    Vestments of the Warlock
    Vestures of Darloc Brae
    Voidcaller Set
    Void Bash
    Vicecannon of Venom
    Vicious Death
    Vicious Serpent
    Viper's Sting
    Vrol's Command
    Vykosa

    War Machine
    War Maiden
    Ward of Cyrodiil
    Warrior Poet
    Warrior's Fury
    Way of Air
    Way of Fire
    Way of Martial Knowledge
    Way of the Arena
    Whitestrake's Retribution
    Widowmakers
    Wilderqueen's Arch
    Willow's Path
    Winterborn
    Winter's Respite
    Wisdom of Vanus
    Wise Mage
    Witchman
    Witch-Knight's Defiance
    Wizard’s Riposte
    Worm's Raiment
    Wrath of the Imperium
    Wrath of Elements
    Wyrd Tree's Blessing

    Yandir's Might
    Ysgramor's Birthright

    Zaan
    Z'en's Redress

    Irrelevant, what's the percentage of those sets in use in pvp circles ? In high BG MMR ? In ballgroups ? For smallscalers ?

    Exactly this, the current meta would boil down to less set picks than the sets listed as still available for the non proc tests. People have used the guise of “build diversity” in an attempt to excuse whatever cheesy build they are playing, how is malacath on every build diverse?
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on March 7, 2021 2:25PM
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  • Cyrdemaceb17_ESO
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    Fawn4287 wrote: »
    Jayserix wrote: »
    Please carify, is this the complete list of all deactivated sets?

    Aegis of Galanwe
    Aegis Caller
    Aetherial Ascension

    ...

    Wyrd Tree's Blessing

    Yandir's Might
    Ysgramor's Birthright

    Zaan
    Z'en's Redress

    Irrelevant, what's the percentage of those sets in use in pvp circles ? In high BG MMR ? In ballgroups ? For smallscalers ?

    Exactly this, the current meta would boil down to less set picks than the sets listed as still available for the non proc tests. People have used the guise of “build diversity” in an attempt to excuse whatever cheesy build they are playing, how is malacath on every build diverse?

    Sorry, but that is not correct. I used a lot of builds and tried a lot of combinations, depending on playstyle, what I encounter and were my personal strengths are. In all those combinations I NEVER used Malacath. I used Ring of the Wild Hunt, because Mobility in combat is a very important key. Now there is only one class left with extremly high mobility.
    Using Band of Malacath as an excuse to blame all "proc sets-users" is just neither right nor fair.
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  • WuChiWuGen
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    Why not split up GH like with 4 maps, the way gw2 wvw did it. each map with a reduced total population and on 4 different servers.
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  • mikebald
    mikebald
    Soul Shriven
    WuChiWuGen wrote: »
    Why not split up GH like with 4 maps, the way gw2 wvw did it. each map with a reduced total population and on 4 different servers.

    I'm willing to bet it's because they don't have a person working at ZoS with these capabilities; have you seen the list of careers they're hiring for? It reads like they're incredibly short staffed.
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
    ZOS_GinaBruno
    Community Manager
    Ilbirs wrote: »
    Please crate a separate Cyrodiil campaign for the tests and let those, who like to play without proc sets, have all the joy and fun in this campaign.

    That's part of the work we're currently doing for U31. We'll make it so certain campaigns can allow proc sets or not (including IC and BGs) and we can also better fine tune the existing item sets. At this time, proc sets are an all-or-nothing deal for all Cyrodiil campaigns.

    As for those asking about console, we don't have a date yet when this will be implemented but you can expect to see what PC currently has, including the current list of item sets that are not affected (listed on page 1 of this thread).
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  • forthwinds
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    Ilbirs wrote: »
    Please crate a separate Cyrodiil campaign for the tests and let those, who like to play without proc sets, have all the joy and fun in this campaign.

    That's part of the work we're currently doing for U31. We'll make it so certain campaigns can allow proc sets or not (including IC and BGs) and we can also better fine tune the existing item sets. At this time, proc sets are an all-or-nothing deal for all Cyrodiil campaigns.

    As for those asking about console, we don't have a date yet when this will be implemented but you can expect to see what PC currently has, including the current list of item sets that are not affected (listed on page 1 of this thread).

    So we’re going through all this trouble just so you can split campaigns and the no proc campaign will be a dead campaign in 6 months? Remember when you guys said there wouldn’t be any major system changes in 2021 & then you released CP 2.0.... and now this?
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  • Maythor
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    It's like there are 4 or 5 heads in ZOS headquarters and they are all saying different things (and none of them seem to be talking to each other either)!
    Edited by Maythor on March 7, 2021 4:05PM
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  • hands0medevil
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    Ilbirs wrote: »
    Please crate a separate Cyrodiil campaign for the tests and let those, who like to play without proc sets, have all the joy and fun in this campaign.

    That's part of the work we're currently doing for U31. We'll make it so certain campaigns can allow proc sets or not (including IC and BGs) and we can also better fine tune the existing item sets. At this time, proc sets are an all-or-nothing deal for all Cyrodiil campaigns.

    As for those asking about console, we don't have a date yet when this will be implemented but you can expect to see what PC currently has, including the current list of item sets that are not affected (listed on page 1 of this thread).

    Well, I have mixed feeling about it. Items need better balance but this is going too far. Next step gonna be PVP campaigns without Wardens and Necromancers? Or without proc Orcs?
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    forthwinds wrote: »
    So we’re going through all this trouble just so you can split campaigns and the no proc campaign will be a dead campaign in 6 months?

    Agreed.

    But in the meantime, why would you choose the least popular option that discourages people from buying new content and blocks them from using content that they already paid for? And causes even worse performance to boot?

    Phrases like 'We're working on,' 'We plan to implement' are open ended suggestions with no concrete date for accomplishment. Saying you plan to have something in place in Q3 is the same as saying you are giving us two person mounts or working to improve Cyrodiil performance. It could literally be years (if ever) before this new code is working and in place.

    I don't understand the reasoning.




    Edited by Jaraal on March 7, 2021 9:38PM
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  • MirelaUmbrella
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    Ilbirs wrote: »
    Please crate a separate Cyrodiil campaign for the tests and let those, who like to play without proc sets, have all the joy and fun in this campaign.

    That's part of the work we're currently doing for U31. We'll make it so certain campaigns can allow proc sets or not (including IC and BGs) and we can also better fine tune the existing item sets. At this time, proc sets are an all-or-nothing deal for all Cyrodiil campaigns.

    As for those asking about console, we don't have a date yet when this will be implemented but you can expect to see what PC currently has, including the current list of item sets that are not affected (listed on page 1 of this thread).

    Very bad move ignoring the last 24 hours+ of actual feedback on the forums
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    forthwinds wrote: »
    So we’re going through all this trouble just so you can split campaigns and the no proc campaign will be a dead campaign in 6 months?

    Agreed.

    But in the meantime, why would you choose they least popular option that discourages people from buying new content and blocks them from using content that they already paid for? And causes even worse performance to boot?

    Phrases like 'We're working on,' 'We plan to imlement' are open ended suggestions with no concrete date for accomplishment. Saying you plan to have something in place in Q3 is the same as saying you are giving us two person mounts or working to improve Cyrodiil performance. It could literally be years before this new code is working and in place.

    I don't understand the reasoning.




    That's simply your opinion, proc users didn't come out in force until Friday but there is no reason we should truly assume they're the popular opinion.

    Zos while watching players for three weeks realized that mistakes were made and are correcting those mistakes as fast as they can... but you don't allow the mistake to continue unabated and thats what this reprieve is... a gift.
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    Ilbirs wrote: »
    Please crate a separate Cyrodiil campaign for the tests and let those, who like to play without proc sets, have all the joy and fun in this campaign.

    That's part of the work we're currently doing for U31. We'll make it so certain campaigns can allow proc sets or not (including IC and BGs) and we can also better fine tune the existing item sets. At this time, proc sets are an all-or-nothing deal for all Cyrodiil campaigns.

    As for those asking about console, we don't have a date yet when this will be implemented but you can expect to see what PC currently has, including the current list of item sets that are not affected (listed on page 1 of this thread).

    The team needs to work on making sets’ functionality on the server instances compartmentalized so sets can be toggled on or off individually based on what ever the established rule set is for that area. Then some sets can be isolated to only function in pve while others for pvp areas.
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    Thanks to everyone for participating in this latest Cyrodiil test where we disabled all proc sets. Similar to what many of you have noted in your feedback, we found this test did not impact performance in a measurable amount; if anything, there was a very slight degradation of performance at times, likely due to a higher population of players in Cyrodiil.

    We’ve heard from a lot of you that despite performance largely being the same, disabling proc sets has breathed new life into PvP gameplay and has made fights more enjoyable and fun. To that end, we’ll be leaving proc sets disabled until Update 31 launches in Q3. At that point, we will have implemented some new code so we can have more flexibility to campaign rulesets as it applies to proc sets. We’ll work on applying all this to consoles as well, and we’ll let you know when we have a date for this starting.

    Now that we’ve had time to digest a lot of data and information, we have a better idea of next steps and the work needed to produce noticeable improvements to performance in Cyrodiil. This work is complex and will take a fair amount of time and effort. We are committed to improving the PvP experience, though, and we have already begun scheduling out this work. Please note that none of the scheduled work will implement any of the changes we made on PC during past tests, and at this time we don’t plan to run any additional tests.

    When Update 29 launches on Monday for PC, we’ll be turning off double AP but proc sets will remain disabled as mentioned above. We appreciate the time everyone spent in Cyrodiil during these tests and all the feedback that’s been submitted.

    Now this is extremely disappointing.

    I specifically avoided pvp for the entire test and as I am not a pve player, I have ran out of things to do.
    I do appreciate the advanced notice though.

    I would like to add that I found it acceptable to disable items that I bought for a short test. However, for 6month's?!

    I know I am not the only one here. All the mythics, even simple stat ones, being disabled for the only content I play seems to be a swift kick in the nuts. It's the sole reason for my purchases.

    For anyone out there, I have a car for sale, it has new tires but you need to return them in 3 months....
    Edited by Xeniph on March 7, 2021 4:39PM
    Here since Beta.

    Characters: All of them, both Stamina and Magicka.
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    All that farming time out the window. The end of this game is near.
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  • PetrKerosinOlej
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    Ilbirs wrote: »
    Please crate a separate Cyrodiil campaign for the tests and let those, who like to play without proc sets, have all the joy and fun in this campaign.

    That's part of the work we're currently doing for U31. We'll make it so certain campaigns can allow proc sets or not (including IC and BGs) and we can also better fine tune the existing item sets. At this time, proc sets are an all-or-nothing deal for all Cyrodiil campaigns.

    As for those asking about console, we don't have a date yet when this will be implemented but you can expect to see what PC currently has, including the current list of item sets that are not affected (listed on page 1 of this thread).

    CP
    CP NO-PROC
    NO-CP
    NO-CP NO-PROC

    Hope creating 2 more pvp "styles" will help the balance team guys with the balancing when they are already struggling with the existing 2 (CP, NO-CP). Im sorry but i dont feel diversifying the pvp more would be a good choice.

    Hopefully you guys actually mean to get rid of no-cp campaigns with the rework of cp system (they are dead everywhere besides EU anyway) and then try to balance the game just around CP, CP no-proc.
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    forthwinds wrote: »
    So we’re going through all this trouble just so you can split campaigns and the no proc campaign will be a dead campaign in 6 months?

    Agreed.

    But in the meantime, why would you choose they least popular option that discourages people from buying new content and blocks them from using content that they already paid for? And causes even worse performance to boot?

    Phrases like 'We're working on,' 'We plan to imlement' are open ended suggestions with no concrete date for accomplishment. Saying you plan to have something in place in Q3 is the same as saying you are giving us two person mounts or working to improve Cyrodiil performance. It could literally be years (if ever) before this new code is working and in place.

    I don't understand the reasoning.




    Exactly. While the worse performance is arguable (too many variables to say set removal is the cause), it's definitely removing a ton of variety and locking out most of the sets that incentivize content purchases. It also completely changes a system that players have spent years utilizing and adapting to just to cater to a passing novelty.

    I can understand that many passive procs (things that do massive damage or healing without direct player interaction, like crimson) can make some encounters very lopsided, but you're going to remove that gnat of an annoyance while also removing major utility "procs" like permanent buffs or reduced costs?

    It should be "the no proc test showed us there is a desire for a more predictable experience in encounters, so we're looking into ways to remove or balance certain proc sets that can single-handedly dictate the course of a battle. We'll be testing and getting feedback for various sets and hope to implement changes in Q3. "
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    That's simply your opinion, proc users didn't come out in force until Friday but there is no reason we should truly assume they're the popular opinion.

    Because we were mislead into believing that this would be a temporary test of how certain calculations affect performance. We sucked it up in the interest of possibly having a smoother running experience in the future..... but the lag, desynchs, and disconnects were only worse.

    How could we know there was a hidden agenda they chose not to reveal to us until after the fact?


    Edited by Jaraal on March 7, 2021 4:44PM
    RIP Bosmer Nation. 4/4/14 - 2/25/19.
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    Ilbirs wrote: »
    Please crate a separate Cyrodiil campaign for the tests and let those, who like to play without proc sets, have all the joy and fun in this campaign.

    That's part of the work we're currently doing for U31. We'll make it so certain campaigns can allow proc sets or not (including IC and BGs) and we can also better fine tune the existing item sets. At this time, proc sets are an all-or-nothing deal for all Cyrodiil campaigns.

    As for those asking about console, we don't have a date yet when this will be implemented but you can expect to see what PC currently has, including the current list of item sets that are not affected (listed on page 1 of this thread).

    People are asking also for other Cyrodiil modes:
    - classic ESO (no DLCs)
    - No Warden/Necromancer
    - No golden items
    - PVE Cyrodiil
    - HP limit
    - Low AMP only
    - Global skills cooldown
    - Faction locked
    - Non faction locked
    - with / without cross healing
    - with / without ballgroups
    - with / without gankers
    - with / without Volendrung
    - with / without dizzy swing
    - ...

    Are you going to provide them separate campaigns too? Do you have resources for that? (my main concern)

    ALL we NEED is BALANCED GAME. I don't like the idea but maybe it's easier to make some sets just not available in AVA and BGs (let's tag them as purely Overland/PVE). There won't be need for additional campaigns.
    Edited by hands0medevil on March 7, 2021 8:55PM
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