Feb 15 Cyrodiil Test Details

TheVimpi

I'm really happy about nerfing this blocking necros. Hey, pvp gods, how do you feel now ?

Beardimus

SavageCascadeX0 wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Can someone please confirm if this change affects console as well?
The test was only done on PC and the update comment #652 only mentions PC, so it's unclear if console players should expect this change. I read through comments since the updated info was posted, but didn't find anything.

@SavageCascadeX0
In Gina's post it says it's staying on for PC from now and will come to console too. They haven't said when I assume they trying for the patch in two weeks.

Mr_Arce88

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Please clarify if '19 sets only Cyrodil' comes for consoles with U29. From your message it's not clear what will you work on: work on implementing new rulesets for U31 or work on implementing this limitation from PC on consoles?

"To that end, we’ll be leaving proc sets disabled until Update 31 launches in Q3. At that point, we will have implemented some new code so we can have more flexibility to campaign rulesets as it applies to proc sets. We’ll work on applying all this to consoles as well, and we’ll let you know when we have a date for this starting."

As always, the communication with players is an awful mess...

synnerman

Katheriah wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno we were promised better communication a while ago. Why does a community manager drop this bomb on the PvP community Friday and then gives no further information?

The post are heavily modded, but there's no actual explanation on why all Cyro campaigns will stay like this for 6 months.

Just add a no-proc campaign. I really don't understand how people think taking the choice of about 400 sets away from all Cyro campaigns is a brilliant idea.

You literally just killed theory crafting for your CP PvP community and force them to go IC or... to another game.

Yeah it was a nice touch to drop this on the Forum on a Friday afternoon before the patch on Monday morning

vesselwiththepestle

Please carify, is this the complete list of all deactivated sets?

Aegis of Galanwe
Aegis Caller
Aetherial Ascension
Adept Rider
Affliction
Akaviri Dragonguard
Alessia's Bulwark
Alessian Order
Almalexia's Mercy
Ancient Dragonguard
Arch-Mage
Archer's Mind
Armor Master
Armor of the Seducer
Armor of the Veiled Heritance
Armor of Truth
Arms of Relequen
Ashen Grip
Aspect of Mazzatun
Assassin's Guile
Auroran’s Thunder
Automated Defense
Azureblight Reaper

Bahraha's Curse
Balorgh
Barkskin
Bastion of the Heartland
Battalion Defender
Battlefield Acrobat
Bani's Torment
Beckoning Steel
Berserking Warrior
Black Rose
Blessing of the Potentates
Blooddrinker
Blood Moon
Blood Spawn
Bloodthorn's Touch
Bone Pirate's Tatters
Brands of Imperium
Briarheart
Bright-Throat’s Boast
Buffer of the Swift
Burning Spellweave

Call of the Undertaker
Caluurion's Legacy
Champion of the Hists
Chokethorn
Claw of Yolnakhriin
Clever Alchemist
Coldharbour's Favorite
Combat Physician
Coward's Gear
Crest of Cyrodiil
Crusader
Critical Riposte
Curse Eater
Curse of Doylemish

Daedric Trickery
Darkstride
Daring Corsair
Dauntless Combatant
Dead-Water’s Guiles
Deadly Strikes
Death's Wind
Defending Warrior
Desert Rose
Destructive Mage
Domihaus
Dragon's Appetite
Dragon's Defilement
Dragonguard Elite
Draugr's Heritage
Draugr's Rest
Draugrkin's Grip
Dreamer's Mantle
Dreugh King Slayer
Dro'Zakar's Claw
Duneripper's Scales
Durok's Bane

Eagle Eye
Earthgore
Ebon Armory
Elemental Succession
Elf Bane
Embershield
Engine Guardian
Essence Thief
Eternal Hunt
Eternal Vigor
Eternal Warrior
Executioner's Blade
Explosive Rebuke H
Eye of Nahviintaas
Eyes of Mara

False God’s Devotion
Fasalla's Guile
Fiord's Legacy
Flanking Strategist
Flame Blossom
Footman's Fortune
Fortified Brass
Force Overflow
Frozen Watcher
Frenzied Momentum

Galerion's Revenge
Glorious Defender
Gossamer
Grace of Gloom
Grave-Stake Collector
Grave Guardian
Green Pact
Grothdarr
Grundwulf
Gryphon's Ferocity

Hagraven's Garden
Hand of Mephalas
Hanu's Compassion
Hatchling's Shell
Hawk's Eye
Haven of Ursus
Healer's Habit
Healing Mage
Heem-Jas' Retribution
Hex Siphon
Hollowfang Thirst
Hide of Morihaus
Hide of the Werewolf
Hircine's veneer
Hist Bark
Hiti's Hearth
Hunt Leader

Ice Furnace
Iceheart
Icy Conjuror
Ilambris
Immortal Warrior
Imperial Physique
Indomitable Fury
Infallible Mage L
Infector
Infernal Guardian
Innate Axiom
Inventor's Guard morrowind-set
Ironblood

Jailbreaker
Jailer's Tenacity
Jolting Arms
Jorvuld's Guidance
Juggernaut

Kagrenac's Hope
Kjalnar's Nightmare
Knight Slayer
Knight-Errant's Mail
Knightmare
Kra'gh
Kvatch Gladiator
Kyne's Kiss
Kyne's Wind

Lamia's Song
Leeching Plate
Leki's Focus
Legacy of Karth
Light of Cyrodiil
Light Speaker
Livewire
Lord Warden
Lunar Bastion

Maarselok
Mad Tinkerer
Magicka Furnace
Magnus' Gift
Mantle of Siroria
Mark of the Pariah
Marksman's Crest
Marauder’s Haste
Master Architect
Maw of the Infernal
Mechanical Acuity
Medusa
Meridia’s Blessed
Meritorious Service
Might of the Lost Legion
Mighty Chudan
Mighty Glacier
Molag Kena
Moondancer
Moon Hunter
Morag Tong
Morkuldin
Mother Ciannait

Naga Shaman
Necropotence
Nerien'eth
Netch's Touch
New Moon Acolyte
Night Mother's Embrace
Night Mother's Gaze
Night Terror
Night's Silence
Nightflame
Nikulas'
Noble Duelist's Silks
Noble's Conquest
Nocturnal's Favor

Oblivion's Edge
Oblivion's Foe
Order of Diagna
Orgnum's Scales
Overwhelming Surge

Para Bellum
Pelinal's Aptitude
Permafrost
Pestilent Host
Pillar of Nirn
Phoenix
Pirate Skeleton
Plague Slinger
Poisonous Serpent
Point-Blank Snipe
Powerful Assault
Prayer Shawl
Prisoner's Rags

Queen's Elegance
Quick Serpent

Ranger's Gait
Rattlecage
Ravager
Radiant Bastion
Reactive Armor
Redistributor
Red Eagle's Fury
Renald's Resolve
Roaring Opportunist
Roar of Alkosh
Robes of Alteration Mastery
Robes of Destruction Mastery
Robes of the Hist
Robes of the Withered Hand
Robes of Transmutation

Salvation
Sanctuary
Savage Werewolf
Scathing Mage
Scavenging Demise
Scourge Harverster
Selene
Sellistrix
Senche's Bite
Senche-raht’s Grit
Senchal Defender
Sentinel of Rkugamz
Sentry
Sergeant's Mail
Seventh Legion Brute
Shadow Dancer's Raiment
Shadow of the Red Mountain
Shadow Walker
Shadowrend
Shalidor's Curse
Shalk Exoskeleton
Sheer Venom
Shield Breaker
Shield of the Valiant
Shroud of the Lich
Silks of the Sun
Sithis' Touch
Skooma Smuggler
Slimecraw
Sload’s Semblance
Soldier of Anguish
Song of Lamae
Soulshine
Spawn of Mephala
Spectre's Eye
Spell Strategists
Spell Parasite
Spell Power Cure
Spelunker
Spider Cultist Cowl
Stendarr's Embrace
Stonekeeper
Storm Knight's
Storm Master
Stormfist
Strength of the Automaton
Stuhn's Favor
Stygian
Sunderflame
Swamp Raider
Swarm Mother
Sword Dancer
Sword-Singer
Symphony of Blades
Syrabane's Grip
Syvarra's Scales

Tava's Favor
Thews of the Harbringer
Thunderbug's Carapace
Thurvokun
Titanborn Strength
Tooth of Lokkestiiz
Toothrow
Tormentor
Torug's Pact
Trappings of Invigoration
Treasure Hunter
Tremorscale
Trial by Fire
Trinimac's Valor
Troll King
Twice-Born Star
Twice-Fanged Serpent
Twilight Remedy
Twilight's Embrace
Twin Sisters M
Tzogvin’s Warband

Ulfnor's Favor
Unchained Aggressor
Undaunted Bastion
Undaunted Infiltrator
Undaunted Unweaver
Unfathomable Darkness

Valkyn Skoria
Vampire Cloak
Vampire Lord
Vampire's Kiss
Vanguard’s Challenge
Varen's Legacy
Vastarie’s Tutelage
Velidreth
Vengeance Leech
Venomous Smite
Vestment of Olorime
Vestments of the Warlock
Vestures of Darloc Brae
Voidcaller Set
Void Bash
Vicecannon of Venom
Vicious Death
Vicious Serpent
Viper's Sting
Vrol's Command
Vykosa

War Machine
War Maiden
Ward of Cyrodiil
Warrior Poet
Warrior's Fury
Way of Air
Way of Fire
Way of Martial Knowledge
Way of the Arena
Whitestrake's Retribution
Widowmakers
Wilderqueen's Arch
Willow's Path
Winterborn
Winter's Respite
Wisdom of Vanus
Wise Mage
Witchman
Witch-Knight's Defiance
Wizard’s Riposte
Worm's Raiment
Wrath of the Imperium
Wrath of Elements
Wyrd Tree's Blessing

Yandir's Might
Ysgramor's Birthright

Zaan
Z'en's Redress

[Edited to reduce Spam]

The_Lex

@vesselwiththepestle

Amazing perspective when you list them out like that. Wow.

nuttytom

disable cross healing and this might be fun

Cyrdemaceb17_ESO

vesselwiththepestle wrote: »

Please carify, is this the complete list of all deactivated sets?

Aegis of Galanwe
Aegis Caller
Aetherial Ascension
Adept Rider
Affliction
Akaviri Dragonguard
Alessia's Bulwark
Alessian Order
Almalexia's Mercy
Ancient Dragonguard
Arch-Mage
Archer's Mind
Armor Master
Armor of the Seducer
Armor of the Veiled Heritance
Armor of Truth
Arms of Relequen
Ashen Grip
Aspect of Mazzatun
Assassin's Guile
Auroran’s Thunder
Automated Defense
Azureblight Reaper

Bahraha's Curse
Balorgh
Barkskin
Bastion of the Heartland
Battalion Defender
Battlefield Acrobat
Bani's Torment
Beckoning Steel
Berserking Warrior
Black Rose
Blessing of the Potentates
Blooddrinker
Blood Moon
Blood Spawn
Bloodthorn's Touch
Bone Pirate's Tatters
Brands of Imperium
Briarheart
Bright-Throat’s Boast
Buffer of the Swift
Burning Spellweave

Call of the Undertaker
Caluurion's Legacy
Champion of the Hists
Chokethorn
Claw of Yolnakhriin
Clever Alchemist
Coldharbour's Favorite
Combat Physician
Coward's Gear
Crest of Cyrodiil
Crusader
Critical Riposte
Curse Eater
Curse of Doylemish

Daedric Trickery
Darkstride
Daring Corsair
Dauntless Combatant
Dead-Water’s Guiles
Deadly Strikes
Death's Wind
Defending Warrior
Desert Rose
Destructive Mage
Domihaus
Dragon's Appetite
Dragon's Defilement
Dragonguard Elite
Draugr's Heritage
Draugr's Rest
Draugrkin's Grip
Dreamer's Mantle
Dreugh King Slayer
Dro'Zakar's Claw
Duneripper's Scales
Durok's Bane

Eagle Eye
Earthgore
Ebon Armory
Elemental Succession
Elf Bane
Embershield
Engine Guardian
Essence Thief
Eternal Hunt
Eternal Vigor
Eternal Warrior
Executioner's Blade
Explosive Rebuke H
Eye of Nahviintaas
Eyes of Mara

False God’s Devotion
Fasalla's Guile
Fiord's Legacy
Flanking Strategist
Flame Blossom
Footman's Fortune
Fortified Brass
Force Overflow
Frozen Watcher
Frenzied Momentum

Galerion's Revenge
Glorious Defender
Gossamer
Grace of Gloom
Grave-Stake Collector
Grave Guardian
Green Pact
Grothdarr
Grundwulf
Gryphon's Ferocity

Hagraven's Garden
Hand of Mephalas
Hanu's Compassion
Hatchling's Shell
Hawk's Eye
Haven of Ursus
Healer's Habit
Healing Mage
Heem-Jas' Retribution
Hex Siphon
Hollowfang Thirst
Hide of Morihaus
Hide of the Werewolf
Hircine's veneer
Hist Bark
Hiti's Hearth
Hunt Leader

Ice Furnace
Iceheart
Icy Conjuror
Ilambris
Immortal Warrior
Imperial Physique
Indomitable Fury
Infallible Mage L
Infector
Infernal Guardian
Innate Axiom
Inventor's Guard morrowind-set
Ironblood

Jailbreaker
Jailer's Tenacity
Jolting Arms
Jorvuld's Guidance
Juggernaut

Kagrenac's Hope
Kjalnar's Nightmare
Knight Slayer
Knight-Errant's Mail
Knightmare
Kra'gh
Kvatch Gladiator
Kyne's Kiss
Kyne's Wind

Lamia's Song
Leeching Plate
Leki's Focus
Legacy of Karth
Light of Cyrodiil
Light Speaker
Livewire
Lord Warden
Lunar Bastion

Maarselok
Mad Tinkerer
Magicka Furnace
Magnus' Gift
Mantle of Siroria
Mark of the Pariah
Marksman's Crest
Marauder’s Haste
Master Architect
Maw of the Infernal
Mechanical Acuity
Medusa
Meridia’s Blessed
Meritorious Service
Might of the Lost Legion
Mighty Chudan
Mighty Glacier
Molag Kena
Moondancer
Moon Hunter
Morag Tong
Morkuldin
Mother Ciannait

Naga Shaman
Necropotence
Nerien'eth
Netch's Touch
New Moon Acolyte
Night Mother's Embrace
Night Mother's Gaze
Night Terror
Night's Silence
Nightflame
Nikulas'
Noble Duelist's Silks
Noble's Conquest
Nocturnal's Favor

Oblivion's Edge
Oblivion's Foe
Order of Diagna
Orgnum's Scales
Overwhelming Surge

Para Bellum
Pelinal's Aptitude
Permafrost
Pestilent Host
Pillar of Nirn
Phoenix
Pirate Skeleton
Plague Slinger
Poisonous Serpent
Point-Blank Snipe
Powerful Assault
Prayer Shawl
Prisoner's Rags

Queen's Elegance
Quick Serpent

Ranger's Gait
Rattlecage
Ravager
Radiant Bastion
Reactive Armor
Redistributor
Red Eagle's Fury
Renald's Resolve
Roaring Opportunist
Roar of Alkosh
Robes of Alteration Mastery
Robes of Destruction Mastery
Robes of the Hist
Robes of the Withered Hand
Robes of Transmutation

Salvation
Sanctuary
Savage Werewolf
Scathing Mage
Scavenging Demise
Scourge Harverster
Selene
Sellistrix
Senche's Bite
Senche-raht’s Grit
Senchal Defender
Sentinel of Rkugamz
Sentry
Sergeant's Mail
Seventh Legion Brute
Shadow Dancer's Raiment
Shadow of the Red Mountain
Shadow Walker
Shadowrend
Shalidor's Curse
Shalk Exoskeleton
Sheer Venom
Shield Breaker
Shield of the Valiant
Shroud of the Lich
Silks of the Sun
Sithis' Touch
Skooma Smuggler
Slimecraw
Sload’s Semblance
Soldier of Anguish
Song of Lamae
Soulshine
Spawn of Mephala
Spectre's Eye
Spell Strategists
Spell Parasite
Spell Power Cure
Spelunker
Spider Cultist Cowl
Stendarr's Embrace
Stonekeeper
Storm Knight's
Storm Master
Stormfist
Strength of the Automaton
Stuhn's Favor
Stygian
Sunderflame
Swamp Raider
Swarm Mother
Sword Dancer
Sword-Singer
Symphony of Blades
Syrabane's Grip
Syvarra's Scales

Tava's Favor
Thews of the Harbringer
Thunderbug's Carapace
Thurvokun
Titanborn Strength
Tooth of Lokkestiiz
Toothrow
Tormentor
Torug's Pact
Trappings of Invigoration
Treasure Hunter
Tremorscale
Trial by Fire
Trinimac's Valor
Troll King
Twice-Born Star
Twice-Fanged Serpent
Twilight Remedy
Twilight's Embrace
Twin Sisters M
Tzogvin’s Warband

Ulfnor's Favor
Unchained Aggressor
Undaunted Bastion
Undaunted Infiltrator
Undaunted Unweaver
Unfathomable Darkness

Valkyn Skoria
Vampire Cloak
Vampire Lord
Vampire's Kiss
Vanguard’s Challenge
Varen's Legacy
Vastarie’s Tutelage
Velidreth
Vengeance Leech
Venomous Smite
Vestment of Olorime
Vestments of the Warlock
Vestures of Darloc Brae
Voidcaller Set
Void Bash
Vicecannon of Venom
Vicious Death
Vicious Serpent
Viper's Sting
Vrol's Command
Vykosa

War Machine
War Maiden
Ward of Cyrodiil
Warrior Poet
Warrior's Fury
Way of Air
Way of Fire
Way of Martial Knowledge
Way of the Arena
Whitestrake's Retribution
Widowmakers
Wilderqueen's Arch
Willow's Path
Winterborn
Winter's Respite
Wisdom of Vanus
Wise Mage
Witchman
Witch-Knight's Defiance
Wizard’s Riposte
Worm's Raiment
Wrath of the Imperium
Wrath of Elements
Wyrd Tree's Blessing

Yandir's Might
Ysgramor's Birthright

Zaan
Z'en's Redress

Impressive list. Add all MYTHICAL Items and all ARENA WEAPON SETS to the list and you have them all.
Just for clarification, the 5-pieces bonus is deactivated on these (2-piece on Monster helmets/Arena Weapons - Mythical Set Bonus completly inactive) , the first ones on the Sets usually work (except Arnena Weapons and Mythicals), WHEN they are not also procs /serverchecks.

So the list is even longer

Jayserix

vesselwiththepestle wrote: »

Please carify, is this the complete list of all deactivated sets?

Aegis of Galanwe
Aegis Caller
Aetherial Ascension
Adept Rider
Affliction
Akaviri Dragonguard
Alessia's Bulwark
Alessian Order
Almalexia's Mercy
Ancient Dragonguard
Arch-Mage
Archer's Mind
Armor Master
Armor of the Seducer
Armor of the Veiled Heritance
Armor of Truth
Arms of Relequen
Ashen Grip
Aspect of Mazzatun
Assassin's Guile
Auroran’s Thunder
Automated Defense
Azureblight Reaper

Bahraha's Curse
Balorgh
Barkskin
Bastion of the Heartland
Battalion Defender
Battlefield Acrobat
Bani's Torment
Beckoning Steel
Berserking Warrior
Black Rose
Blessing of the Potentates
Blooddrinker
Blood Moon
Blood Spawn
Bloodthorn's Touch
Bone Pirate's Tatters
Brands of Imperium
Briarheart
Bright-Throat’s Boast
Buffer of the Swift
Burning Spellweave

Call of the Undertaker
Caluurion's Legacy
Champion of the Hists
Chokethorn
Claw of Yolnakhriin
Clever Alchemist
Coldharbour's Favorite
Combat Physician
Coward's Gear
Crest of Cyrodiil
Crusader
Critical Riposte
Curse Eater
Curse of Doylemish

Daedric Trickery
Darkstride
Daring Corsair
Dauntless Combatant
Dead-Water’s Guiles
Deadly Strikes
Death's Wind
Defending Warrior
Desert Rose
Destructive Mage
Domihaus
Dragon's Appetite
Dragon's Defilement
Dragonguard Elite
Draugr's Heritage
Draugr's Rest
Draugrkin's Grip
Dreamer's Mantle
Dreugh King Slayer
Dro'Zakar's Claw
Duneripper's Scales
Durok's Bane

Eagle Eye
Earthgore
Ebon Armory
Elemental Succession
Elf Bane
Embershield
Engine Guardian
Essence Thief
Eternal Hunt
Eternal Vigor
Eternal Warrior
Executioner's Blade
Explosive Rebuke H
Eye of Nahviintaas
Eyes of Mara

False God’s Devotion
Fasalla's Guile
Fiord's Legacy
Flanking Strategist
Flame Blossom
Footman's Fortune
Fortified Brass
Force Overflow
Frozen Watcher
Frenzied Momentum

Galerion's Revenge
Glorious Defender
Gossamer
Grace of Gloom
Grave-Stake Collector
Grave Guardian
Green Pact
Grothdarr
Grundwulf
Gryphon's Ferocity

Hagraven's Garden
Hand of Mephalas
Hanu's Compassion
Hatchling's Shell
Hawk's Eye
Haven of Ursus
Healer's Habit
Healing Mage
Heem-Jas' Retribution
Hex Siphon
Hollowfang Thirst
Hide of Morihaus
Hide of the Werewolf
Hircine's veneer
Hist Bark
Hiti's Hearth
Hunt Leader

Ice Furnace
Iceheart
Icy Conjuror
Ilambris
Immortal Warrior
Imperial Physique
Indomitable Fury
Infallible Mage L
Infector
Infernal Guardian
Innate Axiom
Inventor's Guard morrowind-set
Ironblood

Jailbreaker
Jailer's Tenacity
Jolting Arms
Jorvuld's Guidance
Juggernaut

Kagrenac's Hope
Kjalnar's Nightmare
Knight Slayer
Knight-Errant's Mail
Knightmare
Kra'gh
Kvatch Gladiator
Kyne's Kiss
Kyne's Wind

Lamia's Song
Leeching Plate
Leki's Focus
Legacy of Karth
Light of Cyrodiil
Light Speaker
Livewire
Lord Warden
Lunar Bastion

Maarselok
Mad Tinkerer
Magicka Furnace
Magnus' Gift
Mantle of Siroria
Mark of the Pariah
Marksman's Crest
Marauder’s Haste
Master Architect
Maw of the Infernal
Mechanical Acuity
Medusa
Meridia’s Blessed
Meritorious Service
Might of the Lost Legion
Mighty Chudan
Mighty Glacier
Molag Kena
Moondancer
Moon Hunter
Morag Tong
Morkuldin
Mother Ciannait

Naga Shaman
Necropotence
Nerien'eth
Netch's Touch
New Moon Acolyte
Night Mother's Embrace
Night Mother's Gaze
Night Terror
Night's Silence
Nightflame
Nikulas'
Noble Duelist's Silks
Noble's Conquest
Nocturnal's Favor

Oblivion's Edge
Oblivion's Foe
Order of Diagna
Orgnum's Scales
Overwhelming Surge

Para Bellum
Pelinal's Aptitude
Permafrost
Pestilent Host
Pillar of Nirn
Phoenix
Pirate Skeleton
Plague Slinger
Poisonous Serpent
Point-Blank Snipe
Powerful Assault
Prayer Shawl
Prisoner's Rags

Queen's Elegance
Quick Serpent

Ranger's Gait
Rattlecage
Ravager
Radiant Bastion
Reactive Armor
Redistributor
Red Eagle's Fury
Renald's Resolve
Roaring Opportunist
Roar of Alkosh
Robes of Alteration Mastery
Robes of Destruction Mastery
Robes of the Hist
Robes of the Withered Hand
Robes of Transmutation

Salvation
Sanctuary
Savage Werewolf
Scathing Mage
Scavenging Demise
Scourge Harverster
Selene
Sellistrix
Senche's Bite
Senche-raht’s Grit
Senchal Defender
Sentinel of Rkugamz
Sentry
Sergeant's Mail
Seventh Legion Brute
Shadow Dancer's Raiment
Shadow of the Red Mountain
Shadow Walker
Shadowrend
Shalidor's Curse
Shalk Exoskeleton
Sheer Venom
Shield Breaker
Shield of the Valiant
Shroud of the Lich
Silks of the Sun
Sithis' Touch
Skooma Smuggler
Slimecraw
Sload’s Semblance
Soldier of Anguish
Song of Lamae
Soulshine
Spawn of Mephala
Spectre's Eye
Spell Strategists
Spell Parasite
Spell Power Cure
Spelunker
Spider Cultist Cowl
Stendarr's Embrace
Stonekeeper
Storm Knight's
Storm Master
Stormfist
Strength of the Automaton
Stuhn's Favor
Stygian
Sunderflame
Swamp Raider
Swarm Mother
Sword Dancer
Sword-Singer
Symphony of Blades
Syrabane's Grip
Syvarra's Scales

Tava's Favor
Thews of the Harbringer
Thunderbug's Carapace
Thurvokun
Titanborn Strength
Tooth of Lokkestiiz
Toothrow
Tormentor
Torug's Pact
Trappings of Invigoration
Treasure Hunter
Tremorscale
Trial by Fire
Trinimac's Valor
Troll King
Twice-Born Star
Twice-Fanged Serpent
Twilight Remedy
Twilight's Embrace
Twin Sisters M
Tzogvin’s Warband

Ulfnor's Favor
Unchained Aggressor
Undaunted Bastion
Undaunted Infiltrator
Undaunted Unweaver
Unfathomable Darkness

Valkyn Skoria
Vampire Cloak
Vampire Lord
Vampire's Kiss
Vanguard’s Challenge
Varen's Legacy
Vastarie’s Tutelage
Velidreth
Vengeance Leech
Venomous Smite
Vestment of Olorime
Vestments of the Warlock
Vestures of Darloc Brae
Voidcaller Set
Void Bash
Vicecannon of Venom
Vicious Death
Vicious Serpent
Viper's Sting
Vrol's Command
Vykosa

War Machine
War Maiden
Ward of Cyrodiil
Warrior Poet
Warrior's Fury
Way of Air
Way of Fire
Way of Martial Knowledge
Way of the Arena
Whitestrake's Retribution
Widowmakers
Wilderqueen's Arch
Willow's Path
Winterborn
Winter's Respite
Wisdom of Vanus
Wise Mage
Witchman
Witch-Knight's Defiance
Wizard’s Riposte
Worm's Raiment
Wrath of the Imperium
Wrath of Elements
Wyrd Tree's Blessing

Yandir's Might
Ysgramor's Birthright

Zaan
Z'en's Redress

Irrelevant, what's the percentage of those sets in use in pvp circles ? In high BG MMR ? In ballgroups ? For smallscalers ?

techyeshic

nuttytom wrote: »

Gilvoth wrote: »

Nidhoeggr wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We’ve heard from a lot of you that despite performance largely being the same, disabling proc sets has breathed new life into PvP gameplay and has made fights more enjoyable and fun. To that end, we’ll be leaving proc sets disabled until Update 31 launches in Q3.

Is there a plan to reenable some sets that don't really proc but have conditions like Bright-Throat, New Moon...? I would really like to see that because this sets don't give "free" damage or heal; however, they give way more flexibility in building our setups.

so, your saying new moon does not give free damage?

New Moon Acolyte

LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160

(2 items) 833 Weapon and Spell Critical
(3 items) 129 Weapon and Spell Damage
(4 items) 1487 Physical and Spell Penetration
(5 items) Adds 401 Weapon and Spell Damage. Increase the cost of your active abilities by 5%.

and you are also saying bright throat does not give free damage?

Bright-Throat's Boast
LEVEL 50 - CP 160
Type Overland
Set bonus
(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(4 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(5 items) While you have a drink buff active, your Maximum Magicka is increased by 2000 and Magicka Recovery by 167.

That’s literally not what he means

In B4 they argue that 400 damage which adds not even 1k total damage to entire active abilities is somehow the same as a proc adding 2k DPS or more

Cyrdemaceb17_ESO

Jayserix wrote: »

vesselwiththepestle wrote: »

Please carify, is this the complete list of all deactivated sets?

Aegis of Galanwe
Aegis Caller
Aetherial Ascension

...
...

Yandir's Might
Ysgramor's Birthright

Zaan
Z'en's Redress

Irrelevant, what's the percentage of those sets in use in pvp circles ? In high BG MMR ? In ballgroups ? For smallscalers ?

I counted at least 80 sets wich were used in Cyrodiil (seen by others, by myself and by friends orders/pleas to craft/farm them). Some were used by ballgroups, some for solo vpvp, smallscale, depending on the players abilities and playstyle. I cannot say anything about BGs, since I don't do them, never liked them. And I am sure there are more used wich I never recognised.
Taking something away just because you don't use it, is never a good argument.

Jayserix

Cyrdemaceb17_ESO wrote: »

Jayserix wrote: »

vesselwiththepestle wrote: »

Please carify, is this the complete list of all deactivated sets?

Aegis of Galanwe
Aegis Caller
Aetherial Ascension

...
...

Yandir's Might
Ysgramor's Birthright

Zaan
Z'en's Redress

Irrelevant, what's the percentage of those sets in use in pvp circles ? In high BG MMR ? In ballgroups ? For smallscalers ?

I counted at least 80 sets wich were used in Cyrodiil (seen by others, by myself and by friends orders/pleas to craft/farm them). Some were used by ballgroups, some for solo vpvp, smallscale, depending on the players abilities and playstyle. I cannot say anything about BGs, since I don't do them, never liked them. And I am sure there are more used wich I never recognised.
Taking something away just because you don't use it, is never a good argument.

Agreed, let's keep some semblance of realism here. The vast majority of them weren't even looked at by pvpers. Is it important to rework how certain sets are implemented ofc.

[snip]

[Edited to remove Bashing]

Fawn4287

Jayserix wrote: »

vesselwiththepestle wrote: »

Please carify, is this the complete list of all deactivated sets?

Aegis of Galanwe
Aegis Caller
Aetherial Ascension
Adept Rider
Affliction
Akaviri Dragonguard
Alessia's Bulwark
Alessian Order
Almalexia's Mercy
Ancient Dragonguard
Arch-Mage
Archer's Mind
Armor Master
Armor of the Seducer
Armor of the Veiled Heritance
Armor of Truth
Arms of Relequen
Ashen Grip
Aspect of Mazzatun
Assassin's Guile
Auroran’s Thunder
Automated Defense
Azureblight Reaper

Bahraha's Curse
Balorgh
Barkskin
Bastion of the Heartland
Battalion Defender
Battlefield Acrobat
Bani's Torment
Beckoning Steel
Berserking Warrior
Black Rose
Blessing of the Potentates
Blooddrinker
Blood Moon
Blood Spawn
Bloodthorn's Touch
Bone Pirate's Tatters
Brands of Imperium
Briarheart
Bright-Throat’s Boast
Buffer of the Swift
Burning Spellweave

Call of the Undertaker
Caluurion's Legacy
Champion of the Hists
Chokethorn
Claw of Yolnakhriin
Clever Alchemist
Coldharbour's Favorite
Combat Physician
Coward's Gear
Crest of Cyrodiil
Crusader
Critical Riposte
Curse Eater
Curse of Doylemish

Daedric Trickery
Darkstride
Daring Corsair
Dauntless Combatant
Dead-Water’s Guiles
Deadly Strikes
Death's Wind
Defending Warrior
Desert Rose
Destructive Mage
Domihaus
Dragon's Appetite
Dragon's Defilement
Dragonguard Elite
Draugr's Heritage
Draugr's Rest
Draugrkin's Grip
Dreamer's Mantle
Dreugh King Slayer
Dro'Zakar's Claw
Duneripper's Scales
Durok's Bane

Eagle Eye
Earthgore
Ebon Armory
Elemental Succession
Elf Bane
Embershield
Engine Guardian
Essence Thief
Eternal Hunt
Eternal Vigor
Eternal Warrior
Executioner's Blade
Explosive Rebuke H
Eye of Nahviintaas
Eyes of Mara

False God’s Devotion
Fasalla's Guile
Fiord's Legacy
Flanking Strategist
Flame Blossom
Footman's Fortune
Fortified Brass
Force Overflow
Frozen Watcher
Frenzied Momentum

Galerion's Revenge
Glorious Defender
Gossamer
Grace of Gloom
Grave-Stake Collector
Grave Guardian
Green Pact
Grothdarr
Grundwulf
Gryphon's Ferocity

Hagraven's Garden
Hand of Mephalas
Hanu's Compassion
Hatchling's Shell
Hawk's Eye
Haven of Ursus
Healer's Habit
Healing Mage
Heem-Jas' Retribution
Hex Siphon
Hollowfang Thirst
Hide of Morihaus
Hide of the Werewolf
Hircine's veneer
Hist Bark
Hiti's Hearth
Hunt Leader

Ice Furnace
Iceheart
Icy Conjuror
Ilambris
Immortal Warrior
Imperial Physique
Indomitable Fury
Infallible Mage L
Infector
Infernal Guardian
Innate Axiom
Inventor's Guard morrowind-set
Ironblood

Jailbreaker
Jailer's Tenacity
Jolting Arms
Jorvuld's Guidance
Juggernaut

Kagrenac's Hope
Kjalnar's Nightmare
Knight Slayer
Knight-Errant's Mail
Knightmare
Kra'gh
Kvatch Gladiator
Kyne's Kiss
Kyne's Wind

Lamia's Song
Leeching Plate
Leki's Focus
Legacy of Karth
Light of Cyrodiil
Light Speaker
Livewire
Lord Warden
Lunar Bastion

Maarselok
Mad Tinkerer
Magicka Furnace
Magnus' Gift
Mantle of Siroria
Mark of the Pariah
Marksman's Crest
Marauder’s Haste
Master Architect
Maw of the Infernal
Mechanical Acuity
Medusa
Meridia’s Blessed
Meritorious Service
Might of the Lost Legion
Mighty Chudan
Mighty Glacier
Molag Kena
Moondancer
Moon Hunter
Morag Tong
Morkuldin
Mother Ciannait

Naga Shaman
Necropotence
Nerien'eth
Netch's Touch
New Moon Acolyte
Night Mother's Embrace
Night Mother's Gaze
Night Terror
Night's Silence
Nightflame
Nikulas'
Noble Duelist's Silks
Noble's Conquest
Nocturnal's Favor

Oblivion's Edge
Oblivion's Foe
Order of Diagna
Orgnum's Scales
Overwhelming Surge

Para Bellum
Pelinal's Aptitude
Permafrost
Pestilent Host
Pillar of Nirn
Phoenix
Pirate Skeleton
Plague Slinger
Poisonous Serpent
Point-Blank Snipe
Powerful Assault
Prayer Shawl
Prisoner's Rags

Queen's Elegance
Quick Serpent

Ranger's Gait
Rattlecage
Ravager
Radiant Bastion
Reactive Armor
Redistributor
Red Eagle's Fury
Renald's Resolve
Roaring Opportunist
Roar of Alkosh
Robes of Alteration Mastery
Robes of Destruction Mastery
Robes of the Hist
Robes of the Withered Hand
Robes of Transmutation

Salvation
Sanctuary
Savage Werewolf
Scathing Mage
Scavenging Demise
Scourge Harverster
Selene
Sellistrix
Senche's Bite
Senche-raht’s Grit
Senchal Defender
Sentinel of Rkugamz
Sentry
Sergeant's Mail
Seventh Legion Brute
Shadow Dancer's Raiment
Shadow of the Red Mountain
Shadow Walker
Shadowrend
Shalidor's Curse
Shalk Exoskeleton
Sheer Venom
Shield Breaker
Shield of the Valiant
Shroud of the Lich
Silks of the Sun
Sithis' Touch
Skooma Smuggler
Slimecraw
Sload’s Semblance
Soldier of Anguish
Song of Lamae
Soulshine
Spawn of Mephala
Spectre's Eye
Spell Strategists
Spell Parasite
Spell Power Cure
Spelunker
Spider Cultist Cowl
Stendarr's Embrace
Stonekeeper
Storm Knight's
Storm Master
Stormfist
Strength of the Automaton
Stuhn's Favor
Stygian
Sunderflame
Swamp Raider
Swarm Mother
Sword Dancer
Sword-Singer
Symphony of Blades
Syrabane's Grip
Syvarra's Scales

Tava's Favor
Thews of the Harbringer
Thunderbug's Carapace
Thurvokun
Titanborn Strength
Tooth of Lokkestiiz
Toothrow
Tormentor
Torug's Pact
Trappings of Invigoration
Treasure Hunter
Tremorscale
Trial by Fire
Trinimac's Valor
Troll King
Twice-Born Star
Twice-Fanged Serpent
Twilight Remedy
Twilight's Embrace
Twin Sisters M
Tzogvin’s Warband

Ulfnor's Favor
Unchained Aggressor
Undaunted Bastion
Undaunted Infiltrator
Undaunted Unweaver
Unfathomable Darkness

Valkyn Skoria
Vampire Cloak
Vampire Lord
Vampire's Kiss
Vanguard’s Challenge
Varen's Legacy
Vastarie’s Tutelage
Velidreth
Vengeance Leech
Venomous Smite
Vestment of Olorime
Vestments of the Warlock
Vestures of Darloc Brae
Voidcaller Set
Void Bash
Vicecannon of Venom
Vicious Death
Vicious Serpent
Viper's Sting
Vrol's Command
Vykosa

War Machine
War Maiden
Ward of Cyrodiil
Warrior Poet
Warrior's Fury
Way of Air
Way of Fire
Way of Martial Knowledge
Way of the Arena
Whitestrake's Retribution
Widowmakers
Wilderqueen's Arch
Willow's Path
Winterborn
Winter's Respite
Wisdom of Vanus
Wise Mage
Witchman
Witch-Knight's Defiance
Wizard’s Riposte
Worm's Raiment
Wrath of the Imperium
Wrath of Elements
Wyrd Tree's Blessing

Yandir's Might
Ysgramor's Birthright

Zaan
Z'en's Redress

Irrelevant, what's the percentage of those sets in use in pvp circles ? In high BG MMR ? In ballgroups ? For smallscalers ?

Exactly this, the current meta would boil down to less set picks than the sets listed as still available for the non proc tests. People have used the guise of “build diversity” in an attempt to excuse whatever cheesy build they are playing, how is malacath on every build diverse?

Cyrdemaceb17_ESO

Fawn4287 wrote: »

Jayserix wrote: »

vesselwiththepestle wrote: »

Please carify, is this the complete list of all deactivated sets?

Aegis of Galanwe
Aegis Caller
Aetherial Ascension

...

Wyrd Tree's Blessing

Yandir's Might
Ysgramor's Birthright

Zaan
Z'en's Redress

Irrelevant, what's the percentage of those sets in use in pvp circles ? In high BG MMR ? In ballgroups ? For smallscalers ?

Exactly this, the current meta would boil down to less set picks than the sets listed as still available for the non proc tests. People have used the guise of “build diversity” in an attempt to excuse whatever cheesy build they are playing, how is malacath on every build diverse?

Sorry, but that is not correct. I used a lot of builds and tried a lot of combinations, depending on playstyle, what I encounter and were my personal strengths are. In all those combinations I NEVER used Malacath. I used Ring of the Wild Hunt, because Mobility in combat is a very important key. Now there is only one class left with extremly high mobility.
Using Band of Malacath as an excuse to blame all "proc sets-users" is just neither right nor fair.

WuChiWuGen

Why not split up GH like with 4 maps, the way gw2 wvw did it. each map with a reduced total population and on 4 different servers.

mikebald

WuChiWuGen wrote: »

Why not split up GH like with 4 maps, the way gw2 wvw did it. each map with a reduced total population and on 4 different servers.

I'm willing to bet it's because they don't have a person working at ZoS with these capabilities; have you seen the list of careers they're hiring for? It reads like they're incredibly short staffed.

ZOS_GinaBruno

Ilbirs wrote: »

Please crate a separate Cyrodiil campaign for the tests and let those, who like to play without proc sets, have all the joy and fun in this campaign.

That's part of the work we're currently doing for U31. We'll make it so certain campaigns can allow proc sets or not (including IC and BGs) and we can also better fine tune the existing item sets. At this time, proc sets are an all-or-nothing deal for all Cyrodiil campaigns.

As for those asking about console, we don't have a date yet when this will be implemented but you can expect to see what PC currently has, including the current list of item sets that are not affected (listed on page 1 of this thread).

forthwinds

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ilbirs wrote: »

Please crate a separate Cyrodiil campaign for the tests and let those, who like to play without proc sets, have all the joy and fun in this campaign.

That's part of the work we're currently doing for U31. We'll make it so certain campaigns can allow proc sets or not (including IC and BGs) and we can also better fine tune the existing item sets. At this time, proc sets are an all-or-nothing deal for all Cyrodiil campaigns.

As for those asking about console, we don't have a date yet when this will be implemented but you can expect to see what PC currently has, including the current list of item sets that are not affected (listed on page 1 of this thread).

So we’re going through all this trouble just so you can split campaigns and the no proc campaign will be a dead campaign in 6 months? Remember when you guys said there wouldn’t be any major system changes in 2021 & then you released CP 2.0.... and now this?

Maythor

It's like there are 4 or 5 heads in ZOS headquarters and they are all saying different things (and none of them seem to be talking to each other either)!

hands0medevil

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ilbirs wrote: »

Please crate a separate Cyrodiil campaign for the tests and let those, who like to play without proc sets, have all the joy and fun in this campaign.

That's part of the work we're currently doing for U31. We'll make it so certain campaigns can allow proc sets or not (including IC and BGs) and we can also better fine tune the existing item sets. At this time, proc sets are an all-or-nothing deal for all Cyrodiil campaigns.

As for those asking about console, we don't have a date yet when this will be implemented but you can expect to see what PC currently has, including the current list of item sets that are not affected (listed on page 1 of this thread).

Well, I have mixed feeling about it. Items need better balance but this is going too far. Next step gonna be PVP campaigns without Wardens and Necromancers? Or without proc Orcs?

Jaraal

forthwinds wrote: »

So we’re going through all this trouble just so you can split campaigns and the no proc campaign will be a dead campaign in 6 months?

Agreed.

But in the meantime, why would you choose the least popular option that discourages people from buying new content and blocks them from using content that they already paid for? And causes even worse performance to boot?

Phrases like 'We're working on,' 'We plan to implement' are open ended suggestions with no concrete date for accomplishment. Saying you plan to have something in place in Q3 is the same as saying you are giving us two person mounts or working to improve Cyrodiil performance. It could literally be years (if ever) before this new code is working and in place.

I don't understand the reasoning.

MirelaUmbrella

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ilbirs wrote: »

Please crate a separate Cyrodiil campaign for the tests and let those, who like to play without proc sets, have all the joy and fun in this campaign.

That's part of the work we're currently doing for U31. We'll make it so certain campaigns can allow proc sets or not (including IC and BGs) and we can also better fine tune the existing item sets. At this time, proc sets are an all-or-nothing deal for all Cyrodiil campaigns.

As for those asking about console, we don't have a date yet when this will be implemented but you can expect to see what PC currently has, including the current list of item sets that are not affected (listed on page 1 of this thread).

Very bad move ignoring the last 24 hours+ of actual feedback on the forums

orion_1981usub17_ESO

Jaraal wrote: »

forthwinds wrote: »

So we’re going through all this trouble just so you can split campaigns and the no proc campaign will be a dead campaign in 6 months?

Agreed.

But in the meantime, why would you choose they least popular option that discourages people from buying new content and blocks them from using content that they already paid for? And causes even worse performance to boot?

Phrases like 'We're working on,' 'We plan to imlement' are open ended suggestions with no concrete date for accomplishment. Saying you plan to have something in place in Q3 is the same as saying you are giving us two person mounts or working to improve Cyrodiil performance. It could literally be years before this new code is working and in place.

I don't understand the reasoning.

That's simply your opinion, proc users didn't come out in force until Friday but there is no reason we should truly assume they're the popular opinion.

Zos while watching players for three weeks realized that mistakes were made and are correcting those mistakes as fast as they can... but you don't allow the mistake to continue unabated and thats what this reprieve is... a gift.

umagon

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ilbirs wrote: »

Please crate a separate Cyrodiil campaign for the tests and let those, who like to play without proc sets, have all the joy and fun in this campaign.

That's part of the work we're currently doing for U31. We'll make it so certain campaigns can allow proc sets or not (including IC and BGs) and we can also better fine tune the existing item sets. At this time, proc sets are an all-or-nothing deal for all Cyrodiil campaigns.

As for those asking about console, we don't have a date yet when this will be implemented but you can expect to see what PC currently has, including the current list of item sets that are not affected (listed on page 1 of this thread).

The team needs to work on making sets’ functionality on the server instances compartmentalized so sets can be toggled on or off individually based on what ever the established rule set is for that area. Then some sets can be isolated to only function in pve while others for pvp areas.

Xeniph

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks to everyone for participating in this latest Cyrodiil test where we disabled all proc sets. Similar to what many of you have noted in your feedback, we found this test did not impact performance in a measurable amount; if anything, there was a very slight degradation of performance at times, likely due to a higher population of players in Cyrodiil.

We’ve heard from a lot of you that despite performance largely being the same, disabling proc sets has breathed new life into PvP gameplay and has made fights more enjoyable and fun. To that end, we’ll be leaving proc sets disabled until Update 31 launches in Q3. At that point, we will have implemented some new code so we can have more flexibility to campaign rulesets as it applies to proc sets. We’ll work on applying all this to consoles as well, and we’ll let you know when we have a date for this starting.

Now that we’ve had time to digest a lot of data and information, we have a better idea of next steps and the work needed to produce noticeable improvements to performance in Cyrodiil. This work is complex and will take a fair amount of time and effort. We are committed to improving the PvP experience, though, and we have already begun scheduling out this work. Please note that none of the scheduled work will implement any of the changes we made on PC during past tests, and at this time we don’t plan to run any additional tests.

When Update 29 launches on Monday for PC, we’ll be turning off double AP but proc sets will remain disabled as mentioned above. We appreciate the time everyone spent in Cyrodiil during these tests and all the feedback that’s been submitted.

Now this is extremely disappointing.

I specifically avoided pvp for the entire test and as I am not a pve player, I have ran out of things to do.
I do appreciate the advanced notice though.

I would like to add that I found it acceptable to disable items that I bought for a short test. However, for 6month's?!

I know I am not the only one here. All the mythics, even simple stat ones, being disabled for the only content I play seems to be a swift kick in the nuts. It's the sole reason for my purchases.

For anyone out there, I have a car for sale, it has new tires but you need to return them in 3 months....

Beef406

All that farming time out the window. The end of this game is near.

PetrKerosinOlej

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ilbirs wrote: »

Please crate a separate Cyrodiil campaign for the tests and let those, who like to play without proc sets, have all the joy and fun in this campaign.

That's part of the work we're currently doing for U31. We'll make it so certain campaigns can allow proc sets or not (including IC and BGs) and we can also better fine tune the existing item sets. At this time, proc sets are an all-or-nothing deal for all Cyrodiil campaigns.

As for those asking about console, we don't have a date yet when this will be implemented but you can expect to see what PC currently has, including the current list of item sets that are not affected (listed on page 1 of this thread).

CP
CP NO-PROC
NO-CP
NO-CP NO-PROC

Hope creating 2 more pvp "styles" will help the balance team guys with the balancing when they are already struggling with the existing 2 (CP, NO-CP). Im sorry but i dont feel diversifying the pvp more would be a good choice.

Hopefully you guys actually mean to get rid of no-cp campaigns with the rework of cp system (they are dead everywhere besides EU anyway) and then try to balance the game just around CP, CP no-proc.

Rikakiah

Jaraal wrote: »

forthwinds wrote: »

So we’re going through all this trouble just so you can split campaigns and the no proc campaign will be a dead campaign in 6 months?

Agreed.

But in the meantime, why would you choose they least popular option that discourages people from buying new content and blocks them from using content that they already paid for? And causes even worse performance to boot?

Phrases like 'We're working on,' 'We plan to imlement' are open ended suggestions with no concrete date for accomplishment. Saying you plan to have something in place in Q3 is the same as saying you are giving us two person mounts or working to improve Cyrodiil performance. It could literally be years (if ever) before this new code is working and in place.

I don't understand the reasoning.

Exactly. While the worse performance is arguable (too many variables to say set removal is the cause), it's definitely removing a ton of variety and locking out most of the sets that incentivize content purchases. It also completely changes a system that players have spent years utilizing and adapting to just to cater to a passing novelty.

I can understand that many passive procs (things that do massive damage or healing without direct player interaction, like crimson) can make some encounters very lopsided, but you're going to remove that gnat of an annoyance while also removing major utility "procs" like permanent buffs or reduced costs?

It should be "the no proc test showed us there is a desire for a more predictable experience in encounters, so we're looking into ways to remove or balance certain proc sets that can single-handedly dictate the course of a battle. We'll be testing and getting feedback for various sets and hope to implement changes in Q3. "

Jaraal

orion_1981usub17_ESO wrote: »

That's simply your opinion, proc users didn't come out in force until Friday but there is no reason we should truly assume they're the popular opinion.

Because we were mislead into believing that this would be a temporary test of how certain calculations affect performance. We sucked it up in the interest of possibly having a smoother running experience in the future..... but the lag, desynchs, and disconnects were only worse.

How could we know there was a hidden agenda they chose not to reveal to us until after the fact?

hands0medevil

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Ilbirs wrote: »

Please crate a separate Cyrodiil campaign for the tests and let those, who like to play without proc sets, have all the joy and fun in this campaign.

That's part of the work we're currently doing for U31. We'll make it so certain campaigns can allow proc sets or not (including IC and BGs) and we can also better fine tune the existing item sets. At this time, proc sets are an all-or-nothing deal for all Cyrodiil campaigns.

As for those asking about console, we don't have a date yet when this will be implemented but you can expect to see what PC currently has, including the current list of item sets that are not affected (listed on page 1 of this thread).

People are asking also for other Cyrodiil modes:
- classic ESO (no DLCs)
- No Warden/Necromancer
- No golden items
- PVE Cyrodiil
- HP limit
- Low AMP only
- Global skills cooldown
- Faction locked
- Non faction locked
- with / without cross healing
- with / without ballgroups
- with / without gankers
- with / without Volendrung
- with / without dizzy swing
- ...

Are you going to provide them separate campaigns too? Do you have resources for that? (my main concern)

ALL we NEED is BALANCED GAME. I don't like the idea but maybe it's easier to make some sets just not available in AVA and BGs (let's tag them as purely Overland/PVE). There won't be need for additional campaigns.