Are Addons worth the fuss?

UGotBenched91

So, I’ve heard so many great things about addons but I can’t help but see all the negative. I constantly see people posting about their game crashing and massive lag. I don’t experience any of this.

With that being said, I’ve seen some people say it’s because the addons are updated and they cause the crash. I’d rather not add them onto my game if it’s going to cause lag and crashing issues. So, is there any truth to this? And if there is, why is everyone blaming ESO makers for it?

Cavedog

absolutely ....if you add them and they cause a problem, delete them. There are 5-10 add ons most people say they can't play enjoyably without, like mini map, action duration reminder, ...master merchant if you are doing vending stuff....etc... .

I don't know that anyone has ever shown that properly updated add ons have ever caused major issues.....with the exception of master merchant....so we turn that one off during PvP, even though developers/mods will use that as an excuse to deflect and not deal with the actual issue causing the problems on a regular basis.

daim

..sometimes I wonder what's going on here. Sure it's a dublicate post but a moderator had to close the one that had the discussion going ? I don't get the policy .. *shrugs*

"duplicate" : https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/515250/are-addons-worth-the-fuss

newtinmpls

Yes.

Absolutely yes.

xWarbrain

Nah you don't need em.

Everyone knows add-ons are for the weak.

Gythral

no addons is for the masochist

that simple...

UGotBenched91

daim wrote: »

..sometimes I wonder what's going on here. Sure it's a dublicate post but a moderator had to close the one that had the discussion going ? I don't get the policy .. *shrugs*

"duplicate" : https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/515250/are-addons-worth-the-fuss

Oh that’s weird I only posted it once.

Túrin_Vidsmidr

Yes.

Shadowfox

Immersion is cool and sometimes ya want it.
Find something that suits you and try it out. If it's worth it to you then you will use it. If it's not, then you wont.

Slyjinxy

Not to butt in...where is the best place to find add-ons? I don't mean to ask a stupid question but I know almost nothing about these things. I'm guessing they're pretty easy to install, hopefully.

Alinhbo_Tyaka

I don't use addons. I think they are a problem as they give the game developers an excuse to not put needed function into the game itself.

Varana

daim wrote: »

..sometimes I wonder what's going on here. Sure it's a dublicate post but a moderator had to close the one that had the discussion going ? I don't get the policy .. *shrugs*

"duplicate" : https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/515250/are-addons-worth-the-fuss

Yeah. Everyone realised that there was a double post, and chose one thread to discuss while the other slowly faded to page 3.
And then they closed the wrong one.
Like, what?

Slyjinxy wrote: »

Not to butt in...where is the best place to find add-ons? I don't mean to ask a stupid question but I know almost nothing about these things. I'm guessing they're pretty easy to install, hopefully.

esoui.com
For the most convenience, use the tool Minion. It will handle the installation and updates for you once you set it up:
https://minion.mmoui.com/

Shadowfox

Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »

I don't use addons. I think they are a problem as they give the game developers an excuse to not put needed function into the game itself.

The only site I absolutely trust that has been around since they announced the first beta is esoui. Same place that does eqinterface wowinterface etc

bmnoble

Depends if you feel something is lacking in the game and want to see if their is an add on that saves your time or makes the process easier for you.

For me it was a few add on's over time as I noticed stuff I felt was lacking in game:

I got the Destinations add on to show me all the locations on the zone maps, I still had to go their but no longer missed finding them.

I got the map pins add mainly the find the time rifts in the Psijic quest line and other things similar to destinations, also allowed me to ditch the Skyshards and Lorebooks add on since Map pins has those features.

I got lazy writ crafter simply to make doing writs on a large number of characters easier.

I got mail looter, initially because I was buying a lot on guild stores and constantly filling my mail box up, it was a pain to manually open each on and then delete it, this add on does it automatically provided I have inventory space available.

Tamriel Trade Centre I got to put my listings up on the website so people could find the stuff I am selling quicker and I could get an idea on prices for items.

I used to use Master Merchant when I was more active in trading now I don't keep it updated in terms of having it search all my guilds sales data, I just use to to auto price stuff based on the price I last listed items for, other than that it stays off.

Votans Fish fillet I use on occasion since it automates the filleting of fish rather than having to manually click on each and every on, I can just start it and walk away, let it do its thing.

The Lost Treasure add on I use to find treasure map and survey locations when I feel like doing either of those.

Its up to you whether you want to use some or none have a browse of the site, you never know you might just find one that interests you.

https://www.esoui.com/addons.php

myskyrim26

I use a few that really change life to a more comfortable. Master Merchant to have an idea on prices, Craft Store to track my crafting things easily, a couple of daily crafting addons. Also Map Pins for treasure maps and surveys. Do I crash because of these addons? No. Even if I'm late to update them after new DLC or chapter is out, I never crash.

Addons resemble TES5 mods: install a lot and you'll start crashing, install a few vital and read the description to avoid conflicts - and enjoy a comfortable game.

Danikat

One thing to consider is addons are not all the same, they do a huge range of different things and even when there are similar ones they may work differently behind the scenes, which means the effects they have - both intended and unintended - will be different too. Add in player preferences and there's no simple way to answer that question.

I think the addons I use are worth the trouble, otherwise I wouldn't use them. There have been times I've installed one and then a patch broke it and I got fed up with waiting for it to be updated and uninstalled it again. Sometimes I find a replacement which works, sometimes I don't bother because I wasn't using it that much anyway.

But there's others, including some I wouldn't want to be without, which have been out of date for years (literally) and have never caused a problem.

For example one of my favourites is an addon called Binder which "just" saves sets of keybindings so you can load them all instantly using chat commands. It hasn't been updated in a year but because what it does is relatively simple and presumably that bit of the API hasn't been changed it still works and my game almost never crashes so I assume it's not causing any problems behind the scenes. I also wouldn't want to play without it because I'm always tweaking my keybindings and wouldn't want to keep copying them over to all my other characters each time I make a change.

Knightpanther

Never used them, never will

Be safe

Neoealth

I already replied to this thread, I guess admin closed your duplicate thread, but for some reason they chose to close the actual active thread with replies and views.

luizpaulom17

Neoealth wrote: »

I already replied to this thread, I guess admin closed your duplicate thread, but for some reason they chose to close the actual active thread with replies and views.

Oh what a surprise...

Also, 5 words to answer the question: Addons are not the problem

idk

Yes. There are addons that add some nice QoL.

I suggest using Minion to download and update addons as it makes it much easier than doing it manually.

Lysette

None of them is necessary though and most are a cheat, working around game play decisions made by ZOS.

xshatox

Yes, some add on improve QoL.
Like for example tamriel trade center help pricing my wares so i dont sell it above market value or far below market value.
So far i dont see add on causing crash or unexpected behaviour.

Grianasteri

UGotBenched91 wrote: »

So, I’ve heard so many great things about addons but I can’t help but see all the negative. I constantly see people posting about their game crashing and massive lag. I don’t experience any of this.

With that being said, I’ve seen some people say it’s because the addons are updated and they cause the crash. I’d rather not add them onto my game if it’s going to cause lag and crashing issues. So, is there any truth to this? And if there is, why is everyone blaming ESO makers for it?

Speaking as a console only player (PS4)... NO. lol.

mague

UGotBenched91 wrote: »

So, I’ve heard so many great things about addons but I can’t help but see all the negative. I constantly see people posting about their game crashing and massive lag. I don’t experience any of this.

With that being said, I’ve seen some people say it’s because the addons are updated and they cause the crash. I’d rather not add them onto my game if it’s going to cause lag and crashing issues. So, is there any truth to this? And if there is, why is everyone blaming ESO makers for it?

Less is more. If you dont miss anything then dont install them.

If you want to use any, then install one and look if its ok. If gameplay changes remove it.

InvitationNotFound

Lysette wrote: »

None of them is necessary though and most are a cheat, working around game play decisions made by ZOS.

This is BS.

Some people... really... I don't like addons, so they are cheating!!!1!1

Excerpt from the Terms of Service:

ZeniMax may, in its discretion, make available to You one or more application programming interfaces and associated documentation (each an “API”) to allow You to access, create, download, enable, use, or associate Content (excluding Game Mods), that modifies or otherwise provides enhanced features to the user interface (“Add-ons”) for a Game

This is wanted by ZOS. ZOS wants players to be able to enhance their UI and game. Deal with it and stop spreading BS.

@ OP:
Most addons do not cause any issues with the client or the game. See other threads in the forum and do not simply believe any BS just because someone lacks a basic understanding of what addons are and what they do.

UGotBenched91

Hey, so too many posts to reply to all but thank you all for the feedback!

FierceSam

Short answer : yes definitely

Long answer : buried somewhere in the other, active thread that the mods closed.

Why are ads being ‘blamed’? Because ZOS didn’t create an effective API for ad development, so ads use the chat system (among others) to send information back and forth, which isn’t good for the chat system. Every time ZOS changes this, the ad developers have to readapt their ads. They’re also an easy and convenient excuse for ZOS to hide their failings behind, along the lines of my fabled ‘valid internet connection’, which seems fine for the rest of the internet, but not for the game.

Rezdayn

UGotBenched91 wrote: »

So, I’ve heard so many great things about addons but I can’t help but see all the negative. I constantly see people posting about their game crashing and massive lag. I don’t experience any of this.

With that being said, I’ve seen some people say it’s because the addons are updated and they cause the crash. I’d rather not add them onto my game if it’s going to cause lag and crashing issues. So, is there any truth to this? And if there is, why is everyone blaming ESO makers for it?

Just do it right.

Addons make the game heaps easier and you will perform better.



You can do stuff like this and track every buff and how long they have left. Makes it so easy to have almost 100% up time at all times.

Lysette

InvitationNotFound wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

None of them is necessary though and most are a cheat, working around game play decisions made by ZOS.

This is BS.

Some people... really... I don't like addons, so they are cheating!!!1!1

Excerpt from the Terms of Service:

ZeniMax may, in its discretion, make available to You one or more application programming interfaces and associated documentation (each an “API”) to allow You to access, create, download, enable, use, or associate Content (excluding Game Mods), that modifies or otherwise provides enhanced features to the user interface (“Add-ons”) for a Game

This is wanted by ZOS. ZOS wants players to be able to enhance their UI and game. Deal with it and stop spreading BS.

@ OP:
Most addons do not cause any issues with the client or the game. See other threads in the forum and do not simply believe any BS just because someone lacks a basic understanding of what addons are and what they do.

Well, they are cheats if they work around intended game play - regardless if those are allowed or not .

deepseamk20b14_ESO

xWarbrain wrote: »

Nah you don't need em.

Everyone knows add-ons are for the weak.

Lies!!!

Wolfchild07

Depends if you want basic functions that should already be in the game or not. Cause having a basic search function on characters with a max of 200 slots each is kinda useful. So is seeing what your other characters have, what your bank has, and what your other storage areas have. Kinda sorta useful. Also being able to select 'unkown motifs only' on your crafter in guild stores is kinda sorta probably useful.