Antiquities System - Are you excited?

OmniDo

"Hey Jay, look what I just dug up! It's a small figurine with some fat guy rubbing his belly."
"Really? That must be super-rare and powerful!"

*Notices 123,456,789 other people with the same figurine while in town, all in line to pawn it off to a vendor*

Yeah, no.

zaria

majulook wrote: »

I am seeing this as a really long grind 2 complete skill lines for this could take a while (possibly worse than Jewelry Crafting).

With everything Bind on Pickup it could quickly become a storage nightmare, depending on what type of items can drop If everything that drops is some sort of unique Collectibles or Mementos, Mount, Costume item then maybe ok as those items currently are not stored in the item inventory. If not then those items should be available for trade / sale.

The whole BoP thing makes me wonder... If you get a the same item a second time what happens does it just disappear and you wasted your time?

BoP is kind of bad simply as it make you want to keep it, same as weapons from dungeon sets since they are hard to get.
An fear that this will be an massive grind as you mostly get other items.

thissocalledflower

is the antiquities system by definition antiquated? I mean we are using ayleid tech after all???

Finedaible

I dislike being pessimistic about announcements like this but I don't think the community's negativity is entirely unwarranted in this case based on past additions.

Like many new additions over the years from Transmutation, Psijic Skill-line, to Jewelry crafting, all these ideas were solid at their announcement but their implementation has generally been poor so it's hard to be optimistic these days. All of these new additions have been marred by some terrible inconvenience that just makes the experience... not fun. So, I'm not getting my hopes up and pre-ordering stuff just to be dissapointed again. I just hope I'm wrong this time.

Elsonso

Alcast wrote: »

I am mostly interested to see what the two skill-lines will do. iirc they are non-combat but hopefully they will also be useful outside of the Antiquities System.

That would be interesting. My impression is that they are limited to making antiquities tasks easier or more productive, though.

skrvbb10rd

At the moment - no.
If it turns out that there’s mythic glyphs - yes.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Starlock

Well, I just switched my monthly sub to a yearlong if that's any testimony.

In fairness, the driving reason behind me switching is because I intend to keep playing the game and it'll save money. Wish I would have been given a heads up when the yearly sub model was available on my platform, because it wasn't when I started subbing. Could have saved even more money over... however long ago they started making yearlong subs available. Oh well.

Elsonso

Starlock wrote: »

Well, I just switched my monthly sub to a yearlong if that's any testimony.

I did too! Although, I switched to monthly to get the annual renewal away from the December holiday season. But, still... I just switched from monthly to annual, too!

woufff

Quite, not only about Skyrim landscapes to come (I love Eastmarch & Wrothgar) but also about two new non-combat skill lines

All that sounds quite cool

Kelces

I expect it to be extremely tedious and time consuming, if it is planned to be similar to archeology in another MMO I won't name. Some here can probably guess know which one I mean.

Kimda

No. Emotes and furnitures, no thanks. This chapter feels so hollow. No new class, no character slots and vampire rework is base game change.

This will be the first chapter what I'm not buying, I can easily wait a year and play it when it have became a DLC.

Zatox

We dont have enough information yet, but Rich Lambert looks very excited about antiquities system

luizpaulom17

Only role players are still excited about ESO

Elsonso

luizpaulom17 wrote: »

Only role players are still excited about ESO

That is so not true.

I don't role play and I play every day. I have a bunch of quests and achievements I have to do, and I have been taking time off of that to collect event tickets (even in Cyrodiil) and do some daily writs.

I am totally looking forward to the Antiquities system because it is yet another thing that I can do instead of finishing up my quests! It will have loot and achievements, too!

Kendaric

Given how tedious many of the newer systems in ESO are, I'm not really looking forward to it but maybe I'lll be pleasantly surprised and it's actually fun.

Royaji

You can't just say

Elsonso wrote: »

I don't role play and I play every day.

And then proceed to describe how you are the very definition of a "roleplayer".

Elsonso wrote: »

I have a bunch of quests and achievements I have to do, and I have been taking time off of that to collect event tickets (even in Cyrodiil) and do some daily writs.

You've pretty much confirmed his point right there, paladin

Elsonso

Royaji wrote: »

You can't just say

Elsonso wrote: »

I don't role play and I play every day.

And then proceed to describe how you are the very definition of a "roleplayer".

Elsonso wrote: »

I have a bunch of quests and achievements I have to do, and I have been taking time off of that to collect event tickets (even in Cyrodiil) and do some daily writs.

You've pretty much confirmed his point right there

You know that isn't role playing, right?

Edit: I get it. Those things are not "fun"... You really need to find a new game, dude.

Royaji

Elsonso wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

You can't just say

Elsonso wrote: »

I don't role play and I play every day.

And then proceed to describe how you are the very definition of a "roleplayer".

Elsonso wrote: »

I have a bunch of quests and achievements I have to do, and I have been taking time off of that to collect event tickets (even in Cyrodiil) and do some daily writs.

You've pretty much confirmed his point right there

You know that isn't role playing, right?

You know that "roleplaying" has multiple meanings, right?

SydneyGrey

Royaji wrote: »

You can't just say

Elsonso wrote: »

I don't role play and I play every day.

And then proceed to describe how you are the very definition of a "roleplayer".

Elsonso wrote: »

I have a bunch of quests and achievements I have to do, and I have been taking time off of that to collect event tickets (even in Cyrodiil) and do some daily writs.

You've pretty much confirmed his point right there, paladin

You don't seem to have a grasp on what people mean by "roleplay," Royaji. You can do questing and achievements and still not pretend you're the character you're playing in the game. That's not roleplaying. Roleplaying is pretending you ARE that character.

fxeconomisteb17_ESO

It's the thing that gets me really excited ; the rest are meh. This thing seems to give more meaning to exploring, as that Spellcrafting was supposed to be.

Elsonso

fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »

It's the thing that gets me really excited ; the rest are meh. This thing seems to give more meaning to exploring, as that Spellcrafting was supposed to be.

It will be interesting if parts of the game designed for spell crafting are used.

There were some early interviews about Spellcrafting which showed a lot more than ZOS shows today. I need to dig those up and look at them again.

Royaji

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

You can't just say

Elsonso wrote: »

I don't role play and I play every day.

And then proceed to describe how you are the very definition of a "roleplayer".

Elsonso wrote: »

I have a bunch of quests and achievements I have to do, and I have been taking time off of that to collect event tickets (even in Cyrodiil) and do some daily writs.

You've pretty much confirmed his point right there, paladin

You don't seem to have a grasp on what people mean by "roleplay," Royaji. You can do questing and achievements and still not pretend you're the character you're playing in the game. That's not roleplaying. Roleplaying is pretending you ARE that character.

You don't seem to have a grasp on what other people may mean by "roleplaying".

Funny thing about words and language in general. They tend to be a living thing.

fxeconomisteb17_ESO

Elsonso wrote: »

fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »

It's the thing that gets me really excited ; the rest are meh. This thing seems to give more meaning to exploring, as that Spellcrafting was supposed to be.

It will be interesting if parts of the game designed for spell crafting are used.

There were some early interviews about Spellcrafting which showed a lot more than ZOS shows today. I need to dig those up and look at them again.

https://youtu.be/3LkeMacg-b0?t=3177

Elsonso

SydneyGrey wrote: »

You don't seem to have a grasp on what people mean by "roleplay," Royaji. You can do questing and achievements and still not pretend you're the character you're playing in the game. That's not roleplaying. Roleplaying is pretending you ARE that character.

I frequently encounter people who have erroneously come across other definitions. It is like learning how to pronounce a word wrong, and then finding out much later how it is supposed to be pronounced. Their definition will always seem to be the right one, no matter how many times they use it wrong.

Collecting achievements, and other meta game activities like the event tickets, have never been considered role playing by anyone who knows what that term means. I suppose one could role play daily writs as a job. I have to ask why. Questing could be considered role playing. Our options are pretty limited in terms of questing in this game, so you pretty much have to role play whatever vision the quest writers had in mind. That is more like "roll" playing; not playing a role as much as exercising the game mechanics.

I started off this game with the idea of role playing, but left most of that baggage back at the last gate. I spend my time exercising the game systems.

@fxeconomisteb17_ESO There are better ones. The creative lead of the time basically walked everyone through how it worked in a pod cast interview.

TheNuminous1

I feel like the point is obvious about the role playing debate here.

You are playing a mmorpg which has Role Playing Game right in it.

So every time you play you are all role-playing.

Garpley

No, I'm not. But in a sense of, I am not excited about what this... weird shift in content delivery (lack of content?) is going to do to the community/loyal long-time players. As far as I can see it is not going to bring anything new to the game that people have been asking for, in fact it seems like it is bringing new things that people specifically don't want.

In previous expansions we have seen Warden + Vvardenfell, Psjic + Jewelry Crafting + Summerset, Necromancer + Elsweyr as the big draws.All things that people were ASKING for. Greymoor over all just seems... a little lazy. Now I will take that back if Antiquities has a use outside of ... just collecting antiquities. Im probably glossing over -revamping the vamp but imo thats not really 'anything new' either.

luizpaulom17

Only role players are still excited about ESO

Elsonso wrote: »

luizpaulom17 wrote: »

Only role players are still excited about ESO

That is so not true.

I don't role play and I play every day. I have a bunch of quests and achievements I have to do, and I have been taking time off of that to collect event tickets (even in Cyrodiil) and do some daily writs.

I am totally looking forward to the Antiquities system because it is yet another thing that I can do instead of finishing up my quests! It will have loot and achievements, too!

U are a role player m8
I can see U walking around doing quests with that fency pet U got from the clownstore
I know U might not really role play but its the same in the end... I accept that this game is made for the ones like U, casuals who prefer single play experiences on MMOs, killing all the end game experience of it.
Have fun!

Thevampirenight

Well I'm getting the impression or theory when they introduce the new system we might become the assistant to the Elder Scrolls version of Indiana Jones. I'm wondering if that means we might be seeing a lot of this guy in the future.
Spoilers for an npc in one of the new Dungeons. If you don't want to know who the npc is don't click on the spoiler.

Comparisons between Indiana Jones and the guy in the spoiler.

You can get a good impression by just talking with him he doesn't like people who sell antiquities to the highest bidder.
I'm wondering if hes the main Antiquities Quest Giver. For the New System.

If you look at he might or maybe not somewhat resemble him. *Shrugs*

Tigerseye

I have no idea.

It sounds like something I could really like, if it is at least somewhat fun to do and you can find genuinely beautiful items to place in your home.

Alternatively, it could be totally dull to do and reward nothing I really like, or want.

Just don't know, yet...