Is it rude to tell someone "l2p"?

Raisin

Yes, ofcourse.

InvictusApollo wrote: »

Raisin wrote: »

Question: Is it rude to tell someone L2P?
Answer: No. There is nothing wrong with educating someone about the source of their problems, when they ask for it.

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Question: Is it rude to call someone a worthless idiot?
Answer: No, nothing wrong with politely telling someone you disagree with them.

(Nothing against ppl who chose this answer, I just think the writing in that part of the poll is very off)
Saying L2P is a mocking troll answer and just doesn't get used nicely...

Have you cosnidered that it is just the way you take it in? Maybe the person saying it didn't mean to troll or say anything hurtfull. But you decided that they did, so suddenly they are an evil person. Have you ever considered that your judgement might be wrong? That words and phrases don't mean what you think they mean. You must know that meaning of many words and phrases changes depending on the context... nationality, culture and many other things.

For example when I say "l2p" to someone on forum who is calling for a nerf, then what I really mean is:
"Please do stop annoying me and others with your incessant whining for nerfs to a mechanic that has so many easy counters. It really makes me feel bad and worry that the game I love so much will become worse. You haven't taken enough time to research it so I won't give you my time, by educating you how you can deal with it yourself. Especially since many other people have already said everything I could tell you. However since I do care for this game and maybe a little about your enjoyment from it, I will repeat to you that you should learn to play a game before you start having an opinion about it. Please stop trying to destroy this game for others. Instead please learn how to play it, so that you and everyone else could enjoy it."

However it seems that you hear only:
"You are so bad and pathetic at this game that I can't even look at you. How can you live with yourself being such a worthless failure who can't even learn to play? You are a worthless idiot!"

How you interpret other peoples comments on the Internet depends on your own sense of self worth. Self confident people who know their worth, who achieved numerous successes in their lifes that they are proud of, will be more likely to assume that comments directed at them have more positive meaning. Or at least won't feel bothered even if it is obvious that comment's intention was malicious.

TLDR: It all depends how you and the other person who used "L2P" define it. Your definition isn't allways the same as theirs. It is your choice to assume the intention.

It reminds me of a tale of a house of 1000 mirrors.

Hi. I could also call you an a-hole and ask you if you're just taking it in the wrong way. The answer is no. There is a difference between things that are up for interpretation and clearly defined insults. I'm certainly not having a philosophical debate about something so stupid. Sorry, it's just.... it's not that deep.

Edit: I have now read the rest of your response. You're really really stupid and mildly delusional. The hypocracy in your mad rambling about projecting intention on people while making a super long delusional post about projecting your wild ideas onto me and my statement is also hilarious. You're also very patronizing and rude in trying to proof a point that's just wrong.
If people agree that 'L2P' is something people purposefully use to be *** to others, then stop using it, instead of crying that you're a special snowflake that's too naive to know it's bad and you alone can decide it changes meaning when you use it. Get over it.

Edit edit: Sorry I keep making edits but I keep laughing about how batshit insane this is. Are you trying to psychoanalyze me and diagnose me with self esteem issues for explaining this to you. People aren't butthurt you're telling them to get better. You're giving them a *** answer most people only use ironically to mimick elitist ***. And you're using it seriously. It's literally a single phrase. If you don't mean to be rude to people, just stop saying L2P and express what you really wanna say. It's not that hard.

xxthir13enxx

Yes, ofcourse.

Maybe it’s the way I’m reading the OP but....
the people defending the L2p keep talking about it’s not rude to give a helpful tip...
But...if the only response given is L2p which in the OP is in quotes...which means That Is the only response given...there is no “tip” given.
The response of just “L2p” is a snide comment for someone to go figure it out for themselves and nothing more.
Someone who Actually wants to help won’t say, “L2p follow these steps....”
Even if they do...that’s still an unnecessary addition...lol Far more civil to just say...
“Here...follow these steps...”

sudaki_eso

No. There is nothing wrong with educating someone about the source of their problems, when they ask for it.

depends on how you say it, just saying "l2p noob" doesnt help and is just bad behaviour from the one who says it but imo its not rude, ppl are too thin skinned nowadays...
l2p with some advice is not rude at all in my book....

Starlock

Yes, ofcourse.

It's very telling when someone deflects responsibility for their choice of words - words that are well known to be hurtful in their intent - onto the listener. It is wise to steer widely clear of people who do this.

InvictusApollo

No. There is nothing wrong with educating someone about the source of their problems, when they ask for it.

Raisin wrote: »

Hi. I could also call you an a-hole and ask you if you're just taking it in the wrong way. The answer is no. There is a difference between things that are up for interpretation and clearly defined insults. I'm certainly not having a philosophical debate about something so stupid. Sorry, it's just.... it's not that deep.

At this moment 44% agree that telling someone "l2p" is not rude. This is a proof enough that "l2p" is not defined by socioety as an insult or even something negative.
The word that you have quoted is however widely accepted to be an insult. Please refer to dictionary.
As you can see you are trying to put an equation mark between two words that neither mean the same or aren't even considered to be in the same category. One is an insult (yours) and the other's characteristic has not been yet established.

Raisin wrote: »

If people agree that 'L2P' is something people purposefully use to be *** to others, then stop using it, instead of crying that you're a special snowflake that's too naive to know it's bad and you alone can decide it changes meaning when you use it. Get over it.

As you can see from poll results people do not universally agree that: "'L2P' is something people purposefully use to be *** to others".

Raisin wrote: »

Edit: I have now read the rest of your response. You're really really stupid and mildly delusional. The hypocracy in your mad rambling about projecting intention on people while making a super long delusional post about projecting your wild ideas onto me and my statement is also hilarious.

You accuse me of stupidity and yet you have clearly stated yourself that you made a post without even reading the entirety of the post that you are replying to.

Raisin wrote: »

Edit edit: Sorry I keep making edits but I keep laughing about how batshit insane this is. Are you trying to psychoanalyze me and diagnose me with self esteem issues for explaining this to you. People aren't butthurt you're telling them to get better. You're giving them a *** answer most people only use ironically to mimick elitist ***. And you're using it seriously. It's literally a single phrase. If you don't mean to be rude to people, just stop saying L2P and express what you really wanna say. It's not that hard.

I am not trying to psychoanalyze you. If I were, there would be at least 100$ more on my account paid by you for this service. Do not assume that you are priviledged to free service from other people. You are not.
By bringing up how different people of different confidence levels react to others, I am merely suggesting you that your assumption might be wrong. (The assumption that "L2P" allways has negative meaning.) It is however very telling of you, that you have immediately taken it personally and assumed that it is an attempt of psychoanalysis of you.

Raisin wrote: »

You're also very patronizing and rude in trying to proof a point that's just wrong.

If I sound to you patronizing then it is only because you have failed to provide any argument other than:
"I FEEL that this phrase is an insult so it clearly must be, because I am allways right when it comes to feelings."

Raisin wrote: »

You're also very patronizing and rude in trying to proof a point that's just wrong.

Please point the exact sentence/phrase where I have been rude to you. You can't. That is because I haven't. I haven't called you any name. I haven't insulted you. I haven't used any vulgarsims. I haven't even suggested anything other than the fact that you might be wrong.
You on the other hand have called me "stupid", "delusional", "hilarious"(as in laughable), "special snowflake", "naive", "mad rambler" and "hypocrite".
You wish to come as a protector of people's feelings - someone nice, who cares about others and respects them. Someone on the level and with good manners. And yet you have come leages out of your way to insult, ridicule, shame and belittle me with a plethora of invectives.
All of that - why? Because I do not agree with you.


Edit: Comment formatting.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Yes, ofcourse.

InvictusApollo wrote: »

At this moment 44% agree that telling someone "l2p" is not rude.

44% ???
L2A ? (LearnToAdd) ? I mean, you really really really need it ;-)

For your information, right now, which is 14 minutes later than your own post, it's 10+10=20%.

Oh and also : L2W (LearnToWrite). It's not as urgently needed as L2A, but since you welcome all hints and help at making yourself a better person : always has only one l. You're welcome.

srfrogg23

Yes, but only if there wasn't provided any direction on what to exactly learn.

If I have tried multiple times to explain a fight and people refuse to listen, then I think they're the ones being rude.

ATreeGnome

Other (type in comment)

Completely context dependent, though aside from jokes actually saying "l2p" to someone will almost always result in defensiveness or hurt feelings.

If you're in a random vet with a CP 160 who has never done a vet dungeon before, telling them to "l2p" doesn't help anything. They already know they need to learn, it's not new information. If you tell them to "l2p" then yeah, it's a little rude. If you tell them to "l2p" and don't even try to teach them then you're just an ass.

On the other hand, if you're in something like a vAS +2 prog group and one of the members is causing issues but refuses to adjust what they're doing, maybe calling them out on it is the only way to get through to them.

I remember trying to teach someone to tank vSO a couple years ago and they frequently bashed the Mantikora (along with every other boss) for no particular reason. As a result, they quickly ran out of stamina and would die to the heavy attacks. We gave them multiple opportunities to learn and they refused, so we had to bar them from tanking the trial until they "learned to play". I don't think it's rude to tell someone to fix what they're doing if they are consistently making the same mistakes and wasting 11 other player's time.

InvictusApollo

No. There is nothing wrong with educating someone about the source of their problems, when they ask for it.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

InvictusApollo wrote: »

At this moment 44% agree that telling someone "l2p" is not rude.

44% ???
L2A ? (LearnToAdd) ? I mean, you really really really need it ;-)

For your information, right now, which is 14 minutes later than your own post, it's 10+10=20%.

Oh and also : L2W (LearnToWrite). It's not as urgently needed as L2A, but since you welcome all hints and help at making yourself a better person : always has only one l. You're welcome.

"Yes, but only if there wasn't provided any direction on what to exactly learn." Currently at 25%. I count this one as it clearly states that it is not rude "if there was provided any direction on what to exactly learn."
"No. There is nothing wrong with educating someone about the source of their problems, when they ask for it." Currently at 10%.
"Simply no." Currently at 10%.
25% + 10% + 10% = 45%
Was 44% at the time I was writing my last post.
I would tell you to "l2r" but you seem very sensitive and I fear it may hurt your feelings.

As for your "L2W". Haven't you stated before that you consider it rude to tell someone things like that? Wouldn't that make you... rude towards me? After all you haven't even told me what is wrong with my writing.
And by all means please do... after you get off your high horse. As I do strive to better myself... it puts me further away from rude people.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Yes, ofcourse.

InvictusApollo wrote: »

"Yes, but only if there wasn't provided any direction on what to exactly learn." Currently at 25%. I count this one as it clearly states that it is not rude "if there was provided any direction on what to exactly learn."
"No. There is nothing wrong with educating someone about the source of their problems, when they ask for it." Currently at 10%.
"Simply no." Currently at 10%.
25% + 10% + 10% = 45%
Was 44% at the time I was writing my last post.
I would tell you to "l2r" but you seem very sensitive and I fear it may hurt your feelings.

Ha ha ha. You're giving away that you willingly biased your poll by considering that "yes, but" would equal a "no".
Or you're twisting things now.
In both cases you're a manipulator and a hypocrit.

InvictusApollo wrote: »

As for your "L2W". Haven't you stated before that you consider it rude to tell someone things like that? Wouldn't that make you... rude towards me? After all you haven't even told me what is wrong with my writing.

I have : you spell "allways" with 2L which is wrong. Just learn instead of arguing.
Oh, but you're butthurt 'cause I told you to learn something. Even though I explained what, and even though you truly need it.
Quid erat demonstrandum. (You can look up that one in Google).

Dojohoda

Simply no.

Don't shoot the messenger. If the person on the receiving end is open for discussion, then L2P can be a conversation starter.

Starlock

Yes, ofcourse.

Dojohoda wrote: »

Don't shoot the messenger. If the person on the receiving end is open for discussion, then L2P can be a conversation starter.

Not using inherently pejorative language makes for a far better conversation starter given it is far more likely to result in a conversation that is productive for both parties.

The first question that should be asked is "are you interested in veteran content, score runs, and leaderboards?" If the person says no, the "learn to play" crowd should not offer advice where it is not wanted. There is no need to "learn to play" for content one has no interest in playing any more than there is a need to "learn to decorate" for someone who has no interest in housing but has really crappy housing designs.

Genomic

Other (type in comment)

It's a very mild type of rude. Seriously, if you're getting upset that someone typed 'l2p' then I feel you're going to have a really rough time dealing with the vicissitudes of real life.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Yes, ofcourse.

Genomic wrote: »

It's a very mild type of rude. Seriously, if you're getting upset that someone typed 'l2p' then I feel you're going to have a really rough time dealing with the vicissitudes of real life.

Again, that's not the point. The point is not about the listening end, but about the speaking end.
The question is not "should you be or are you offended when someone tells you "L2P" "
it is "is it rude to say "L2P" to someone.

As someone already mentioned, someone taking responsibility for the way they understand and try to interpret the words we hear does not take anything away from the responsibility of choosing the words we speak.

generalmyrick

Yes, ofcourse.

people that tell others 'l2p' probably think there is only one way to play and it is their way.

Genomic

Other (type in comment)

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Genomic wrote: »

It's a very mild type of rude. Seriously, if you're getting upset that someone typed 'l2p' then I feel you're going to have a really rough time dealing with the vicissitudes of real life.

Again, that's not the point. The point is not about the listening end, but about the speaking end.
The question is not "should you be or are you offended when someone tells you "L2P" "
it is "is it rude to say "L2P" to someone.

Both are obviously important and not mutually exclusive. Saying something is rude doesn't magically wish it away. You can point out something is rude, but at the same time realise you sometimes have to deal with rudeness, no matter how much you wish it didn't exist. As I say, if you have trouble coping with mild rudeness, then you'll really struggle with life - it will be egregiously 'rude' to you with cancer, deaths, accidents, divorce, etc and it cares not a whit how you feel. If you have trouble coping with 'l2p' then you're not doing yourself any favours because real life will crush you.

AndyMac

Yes, ofcourse.

Ofc it is - it’s an arrogant bait and insult that may initially register as help until the recipient realises it totally isn’t.

Imo the people who drop that on people know it and use it for that reason.

Where people are struggling- as they do - ofc good people have a lot more to say. They try to break down the problem, ask questions and give advice.

People who use l2p are just looking to add to the problem.

mabdastardseb17_ESO

I remember when eso was young,
back then it was so much fun.
holding scrolls and zerging zones,
Had a level 10 toon it was all my own.
But the biggest kick I ever got,
was the first 1000k ap i got.
While the other knights were farming Round the Clock,
we were hopping and bopping to the eso Rock.
Well eso Rocking is something shocking,
when your fingers just can't keep still.
I never knew me a better time and I guess I never will,
Oh Lawdy mama those Friday nights.
when Suzie wore her chainmail tights,
and the eso Rocking was out of sight.
But the years went by and the zerg waves died,
Suzie went and left us for some meta wave guys.
many knights laggin not gettin online,
fearin for my Castles and my scrolls all the time.
But they'll never kill the thrills we've got,
burning up to the eso Rock.
Learning fast as the weeks went past,
we really thought the zerg waves would last.
lag lagga lag a lag lag a lag a lag lag a lagga lag
lag a lagga lag lag a lagga lag

Bobby_V_Rockit

Other (type in comment)

When someone tells me to l2p, its probably warranted, I tend to forgo (be lazy/cheap) things like weapon crit pots in normal content and proper gear in PvP (must really annoy ppl to keep seeing Reliquen on their death recap hehe). So I read it more as “learn to stick to a rotation, drink some dang pots and wear appropriate gear).

Its not really learning to play as much as learning to not be lazy.

Delparis

Other (type in comment)

best baiting comment

xxthir13enxx

Yes, ofcourse.

Umm...who says that the people who know that L2p=Rude behaviour feel hurt or give a fly’n F!?!?lol

If I ask a question
N you respond L2p
That isn’t a convo starter...it’s an ending.
My next step is....ok...I’ll ask someone else...
There’s no tears in any beers..
My likely only thought is....huh...bet they don’t know either...

Dojohoda

Simply no.

Starlock wrote: »

Dojohoda wrote: »

Don't shoot the messenger. If the person on the receiving end is open for discussion, then L2P can be a conversation starter.

Not using inherently pejorative language makes for a far better conversation starter given it is far more likely to result in a conversation that is productive for both parties.

The first question that should be asked is "are you interested in veteran content, score runs, and leaderboards?" If the person says no, the "learn to play" crowd should not offer advice where it is not wanted. There is no need to "learn to play" for content one has no interest in playing any more than there is a need to "learn to decorate" for someone who has no interest in housing but has really crappy housing designs.

I'm for interacting with people in an appropriate way. There are different ways to approach the issue of telling someone that he is doing badly in the content that he has chosen to do. I completely agree that it is preferable to be smooth about it, but some people will just cut to the chase and type L2P. Whether a person is diplomatic or abrupt, the message is the same which is something along the lines of-- "You need to learn something about what you are doing."

While I have never told anyone to L2P in game, it's been told to me in PVP. I've also entered a dungeon unprepared and while no one said L2P, I was politely made aware of my incompetence. That experience felt exactly the same as being told L2P and the result is that I "learned to play".

The thing is, I needed to be told and both ways were effective to prod me into getting better and learning more about the game.

InvictusApollo

No. There is nothing wrong with educating someone about the source of their problems, when they ask for it.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

InvictusApollo wrote: »

"Yes, but only if there wasn't provided any direction on what to exactly learn." Currently at 25%. I count this one as it clearly states that it is not rude "if there was provided any direction on what to exactly learn."
"No. There is nothing wrong with educating someone about the source of their problems, when they ask for it." Currently at 10%.
"Simply no." Currently at 10%.
25% + 10% + 10% = 45%
Was 44% at the time I was writing my last post.
I would tell you to "l2r" but you seem very sensitive and I fear it may hurt your feelings.

Ha ha ha. You're giving away that you willingly biased your poll by considering that "yes, but" would equal a "no".
Or you're twisting things now.
In both cases you're a manipulator and a hypocrit.

It was my intention to provide as many possible options for people to express their opinion. Had I put only "Yes" and "No", then those people who believe that there are certain situations that allow the use of this term, would feel conflicted/confused and forced to choose something they do not agree completely. I think this was obvious. Your accusations are baseless... as always.

InvictusApollo wrote: »

As for your "L2W". Haven't you stated before that you consider it rude to tell someone things like that? Wouldn't that make you... rude towards me? After all you haven't even told me what is wrong with my writing.

InvictusApollo wrote: »

I have : you spell "allways" with 2L which is wrong. Just learn instead of arguing.

Thank you for reminding me that. I do have a habbit of putting too many letters in English words. It is not my native language. Now tell me: isn't it rude to make fun of a nonnative speaker for making slight mistakes?
After all I wasn't petty to call your's: "hypocrit" out. Now have I?
My point stands: you believe that telling someone something like "L2P" is rude and yet you have done it yourself. By your own belief, you are rude.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Oh, but you're butthurt 'cause I told you to learn something.

You assume too much. I see no reason to have any emotional response to a random stranger from the Internet. As my friend always says: "they are just pixels to me". Is someone projecting?

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Quid erat demonstrandum. (You can look up that one in Google).

I salute you for your success... at proving to me that I sometimes put too many "l" in the word "always"... and proving that behind all this facade of a well manered person, is a... well I see no reason to state the obvious.

usmguy1234

No. There is nothing wrong with educating someone about the source of their problems, when they ask for it.

The truth hurts sometimes.

Rave the Histborn

Simply no.

Raisin wrote: »

InvictusApollo wrote: »

Raisin wrote: »

Question: Is it rude to tell someone L2P?
Answer: No. There is nothing wrong with educating someone about the source of their problems, when they ask for it.

=

Question: Is it rude to call someone a worthless idiot?
Answer: No, nothing wrong with politely telling someone you disagree with them.

(Nothing against ppl who chose this answer, I just think the writing in that part of the poll is very off)
Saying L2P is a mocking troll answer and just doesn't get used nicely...

Have you cosnidered that it is just the way you take it in? Maybe the person saying it didn't mean to troll or say anything hurtfull. But you decided that they did, so suddenly they are an evil person. Have you ever considered that your judgement might be wrong? That words and phrases don't mean what you think they mean. You must know that meaning of many words and phrases changes depending on the context... nationality, culture and many other things.

For example when I say "l2p" to someone on forum who is calling for a nerf, then what I really mean is:
"Please do stop annoying me and others with your incessant whining for nerfs to a mechanic that has so many easy counters. It really makes me feel bad and worry that the game I love so much will become worse. You haven't taken enough time to research it so I won't give you my time, by educating you how you can deal with it yourself. Especially since many other people have already said everything I could tell you. However since I do care for this game and maybe a little about your enjoyment from it, I will repeat to you that you should learn to play a game before you start having an opinion about it. Please stop trying to destroy this game for others. Instead please learn how to play it, so that you and everyone else could enjoy it."

However it seems that you hear only:
"You are so bad and pathetic at this game that I can't even look at you. How can you live with yourself being such a worthless failure who can't even learn to play? You are a worthless idiot!"

How you interpret other peoples comments on the Internet depends on your own sense of self worth. Self confident people who know their worth, who achieved numerous successes in their lifes that they are proud of, will be more likely to assume that comments directed at them have more positive meaning. Or at least won't feel bothered even if it is obvious that comment's intention was malicious.

TLDR: It all depends how you and the other person who used "L2P" define it. Your definition isn't allways the same as theirs. It is your choice to assume the intention.

It reminds me of a tale of a house of 1000 mirrors.

Hi. I could also call you an a-hole and ask you if you're just taking it in the wrong way. The answer is no. There is a difference between things that are up for interpretation and clearly defined insults. I'm certainly not having a philosophical debate about something so stupid. Sorry, it's just.... it's not that deep.

Edit: I have now read the rest of your response. You're really really stupid and mildly delusional. The hypocracy in your mad rambling about projecting intention on people while making a super long delusional post about projecting your wild ideas onto me and my statement is also hilarious. You're also very patronizing and rude in trying to proof a point that's just wrong.
If people agree that 'L2P' is something people purposefully use to be *** to others, then stop using it, instead of crying that you're a special snowflake that's too naive to know it's bad and you alone can decide it changes meaning when you use it. Get over it.

Edit edit: Sorry I keep making edits but I keep laughing about how batshit insane this is. Are you trying to psychoanalyze me and diagnose me with self esteem issues for explaining this to you. People aren't butthurt you're telling them to get better. You're giving them a *** answer most people only use ironically to mimick elitist ***. And you're using it seriouslyl It's literally a single phrase. If you don't mean to be rude to people, just stop saying L2P and express what you really wanna say. It's not that hard.

Hi. Calling someone a direct insult and vaguely insulting their skill level arent the same thing and if you think they are you need mental help. Sorry, but beyond that it's not that deep.

Edit: Character attacks on the OP dont help your position and make you look more mentally unstable. If you think "l2p" is elitist you might want to evaluate your own skill levels.

"If you don't mean to be rude to people, just stop saying L2P and express what you really wanna say. It's not that hard."


I think if people expressed what they really wanted to say you'd be very unhappy with those responses. Don't ask to open Pandora's Box I'd you can't handle base insults or calls of competition.

Edit Edit: If you think "l2p" is harmful or you think it shouldn't be used because words can be harmful then you without a doubt 100% have self esteem issues.

Mr_Walker

LOL we all know people generally don't mean it in a complimentary fashion.

44% of the respondents are BS artists.

Sirvaleen

Yes, ofcourse.

That poll really is informative..

I wonder if we will move beyond the amalgam between a word inherent meaning and the interpretation we (as users and recipients) decide to make of it..

Pretending to know the intention(s) behind the use of "l2p", regardless of context, seems rather presumptuous and inevitably error prone. And IMHO completely irrelevant. As well as misguidedly theorizing on the rationales behind the recipient's interpretation of that word.

I'm not particularly sensitive to slurs or belittlements, of any kind and regardless of context.
Doesn't change the fact that they are.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Yes, ofcourse.

Genomic wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Genomic wrote: »

It's a very mild type of rude. Seriously, if you're getting upset that someone typed 'l2p' then I feel you're going to have a really rough time dealing with the vicissitudes of real life.

Again, that's not the point. The point is not about the listening end, but about the speaking end.
The question is not "should you be or are you offended when someone tells you "L2P" "
it is "is it rude to say "L2P" to someone.

Both are obviously important and not mutually exclusive. Saying something is rude doesn't magically wish it away. You can point out something is rude, but at the same time realise you sometimes have to deal with rudeness, no matter how much you wish it didn't exist. As I say, if you have trouble coping with mild rudeness, then you'll really struggle with life - it will be egregiously 'rude' to you with cancer, deaths, accidents, divorce, etc and it cares not a whit how you feel. If you have trouble coping with 'l2p' then you're not doing yourself any favours because real life will crush you.

You can at the same time recognize when someone is being rude to you AND not let it get under your skin. Those are two totally different things. As to real life analogies, I think knowing how to interact with other people on the basis of generally recognized rules of politeness, and knowing when someone is simply being rude to you - and therefore worth ignoring is a much better way to handle life with a required level of self-protection and self-esteem than hanging around insulting people, intentionally or not, or simply listening to everyone believing they're nice and honest and kind and just want to teach you something useful.

If you want to insult someone, then "L2P" is the right way to go. If you want to help someone, then "L2P" is the wrong way to go, and that's all there's to it, really. Furthermore, helping someone usually doesn't start with giving unwanted advice, no matter the form.

Aurayna

Yes, ofcourse.

Seeing as I play as a single player - I don't really care what others think of my combat. If anyone has an enough problem to want to instruct my combat by means of a rude message I just ignore it.

I know I suck a bit at it and I don't need others telling me that.

At then end of the day I enjoy the game - playing the way I want

ThePedge

Simply no.

Constructive criticism.