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reoskit

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

reoskit wrote: »

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

LiraTaurwen wrote: »

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

Just lol. So u will now pay zos more each month bcs u actually do not want to quit. Smart smart.

Only idiots would pay for an whole year in advance just to save some money lol imagine the game would shut down before, imagine they made drastic changes and you no longer like the game...such a waste of money lol

He won't unsubscribe, that's just the truth behind such a decision, that's all.

He is a she, and I will make a decision that is right for me. I'm not sure why you care or think you get to speak as though you know my mind better than I do.

I actually don't care that much. But going into the forums, saying "hey I am not happy, so I changed my subscription and will go on paying u eso+, but now 1€ more each month, take this!" (I know, u didn't say take this) as a response to someone, who noted that he unsubbed completely is a bit awkward. As u mentioned, u do not plan to quit, ure not unsatisfied enough, that's your right, but especially bcs of that I doubt u will be unsatisfied enough within 3 months as example. So yes, you decided to go on paying even more monthly now. That's ur decision not mine, but u will at least have to deal with people finding it awkward, if u openly post such a statement into the forums 🤔 I am no meanie, no need to feel insulted, it was just a instant thought.

I actually responded to Stabby (also a female) who changed her sub to 30 days; she didn't unsub. As Stabby says, it's a good insurance policy to not prepay for something you're not sure you're going to want in 3 months.

For what it's worth, I have 39 days left on my current sub. If this all resolves in that time, I'll be able to change back to my 3 month sub without paying the extra $1. This is not a "stick it to them" move. It's a plan for my future move. Shared here because others may wish to do the same.

StabbityDoom

No point

Mathius_Mordred

Merlight wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

Good points to which I generally agree with but in my case, and I dare say many others, if I cancelled my sub today they wouldn't notice for 9 months because that's how long I have left to run before I have to pay again.

Strange logic

a) You cancel now (yes they will see subscriptions dropping), send an email explaining why you cancelled. If many players are unhappy now and cancel right now, ZOS will get a clear message, perhaps even significant drop in subs during a short time period, indicating something on their side might be the culprit. And maybe if they start acting now, the game will have improved by the time your sub runs out.

b) You wait it out, cancel right before your sub runs out. Other players will cancel at different times. Will the drop in subscriptions (and accompanying "why I cancelled" emails) send as strong a message if it's spread over many months? Also, the chances they start fixing the game before your sub runs out, while not necessarily lower, are definitely not higher with this option.

The choice is yours.

It's not strange at all. You are making an enormous amount of assumptions.

1. You assume that the powers that be would even know I and others had unsubscribed and that it wasn't just sitting in some email inbox in some admins office waiting for processing.
2. You assume that even if they did see it they would take notice, the fact that even if everyone in this thread unsubbed en masse it's probably still not as much as the natural organic cancellations due to lapses and other reasons they see on a daily basis. In other words, it would barely be a blip on their radar.
3. You assume that the people in this thread are a representative sample of the general gaming population and what we do is reciprocated across all servers and all players. The reality is the forumites are a tiny minority of the general game population and what's more we are not representative at all because if we were we wouldn't be on these forums.

Finally, apart from the initial problems after patch 5.0.8 I have experienced no ongoing issues other than guild history which will be fixed next Monday at the patch. I am playing and very much enjoying the game, in fact, I am about to buy some crowns to put towards Jode's Embrace when it becomes available. I have no reason to cancel my sub, I love the game and depriving the company of funds which could help fix it is not a very productive approach in my opinion.

Dont_do_drugs

Accepted 😉

Actually I do wonder, how those new player influence zos income. I have the feeling a lot of questers, casuals, which only buy for one time are coming, but quality longtime players leaving and unsubbing. I am sure the crown store thing works out perfectly, but still I wonder were those 2.5 Mio new players worth the server upgrade and all this problems which need to be fixed now? Surely zos can deactivate api for att/mm forever, bcs the target group mainly doesn't use addons, doesn't read forums. They buy game, click, casually quest, do not subscribe, then ping to another game, then back. Idk this is the way gaming becomes, no depth, no relationship to the dev anymore. It's the smartphone game strategy, just working out fine. But also I am aware, that especially since zos is doing fine, I know, my wishes for the quality of the game will remain unheard. And talking about quality I do not only mean performance, but quality questing, quality lore (I even somehow stopped thinking about this game as an elder scrolls game), quality pvp and pve - even quality questing. Questing and doing campaigns feels more tempting and adrenaline rushing even in games like destiny2. Well...

Jaeysa

rollingphoneseb17_ESO wrote: »

reoskit wrote: »

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

reoskit wrote: »

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

LiraTaurwen wrote: »

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

Just lol. So u will now pay zos more each month bcs u actually do not want to quit. Smart smart.

Only idiots would pay for an whole year in advance just to save some money lol imagine the game would shut down before, imagine they made drastic changes and you no longer like the game...such a waste of money lol

He won't unsubscribe, that's just the truth behind such a decision, that's all.

He is a she, and I will make a decision that is right for me. I'm not sure why you care or think you get to speak as though you know my mind better than I do.

I actually don't care that much. But going into the forums, saying "hey I am not happy, so I changed my subscription and will go on paying u eso+, but now 1€ more each month, take this!" (I know, u didn't say take this) as a response to someone, who noted that he unsubbed completely is a bit awkward. As u mentioned, u do not plan to quit, ure not unsatisfied enough, that's your right, but especially bcs of that I doubt u will be unsatisfied enough within 3 months as example. So yes, you decided to go on paying even more monthly now. That's ur decision not mine, but u will at least have to deal with people finding it awkward, if u openly post such a statement into the forums 🤔 I am no meanie, no need to feel insulted, it was just a instant thought.

I actually responded to Stabby (also a female) who changed her sub to 30 days; she didn't unsub. As Stabby says, it's a good insurance policy to not prepay for something you're not sure you're going to want in 3 months.

For what it's worth, I have 39 days left on my current sub. If this all resolves in that time, I'll be able to change back to my 3 month sub without paying the extra $1. This is not a "stick it to them" move. It's a plan for my future move. Shared here because others may wish to do the same.

Seems like you know a lot players genders, especially females, did you also spent some money on something else than ESO+ and clown schnitzel stuff? Even your hands talk for you quite a lot, good breathing tactic perhaps? Stick to the *** thread and take your pathetic existence somewhere else.

What the flying ***? Reo and Stabby are in the same guild. They talk. Like guild mates do.

reoskit

Jaeysa wrote: »

rollingphoneseb17_ESO wrote: »

reoskit wrote: »

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

reoskit wrote: »

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

LiraTaurwen wrote: »

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

Just lol. So u will now pay zos more each month bcs u actually do not want to quit. Smart smart.

Only idiots would pay for an whole year in advance just to save some money lol imagine the game would shut down before, imagine they made drastic changes and you no longer like the game...such a waste of money lol

He won't unsubscribe, that's just the truth behind such a decision, that's all.

He is a she, and I will make a decision that is right for me. I'm not sure why you care or think you get to speak as though you know my mind better than I do.

I actually don't care that much. But going into the forums, saying "hey I am not happy, so I changed my subscription and will go on paying u eso+, but now 1€ more each month, take this!" (I know, u didn't say take this) as a response to someone, who noted that he unsubbed completely is a bit awkward. As u mentioned, u do not plan to quit, ure not unsatisfied enough, that's your right, but especially bcs of that I doubt u will be unsatisfied enough within 3 months as example. So yes, you decided to go on paying even more monthly now. That's ur decision not mine, but u will at least have to deal with people finding it awkward, if u openly post such a statement into the forums 🤔 I am no meanie, no need to feel insulted, it was just a instant thought.

I actually responded to Stabby (also a female) who changed her sub to 30 days; she didn't unsub. As Stabby says, it's a good insurance policy to not prepay for something you're not sure you're going to want in 3 months.

For what it's worth, I have 39 days left on my current sub. If this all resolves in that time, I'll be able to change back to my 3 month sub without paying the extra $1. This is not a "stick it to them" move. It's a plan for my future move. Shared here because others may wish to do the same.

Seems like you know a lot players genders, especially females, did you also spent some money on something else than ESO+ and clown schnitzel stuff? Even your hands talk for you quite a lot, good breathing tactic perhaps? Stick to the *** thread and take your pathetic existence somewhere else.

What the flying ***? Reo and Stabby are in the same guild. They talk. Like guild mates do.

Two points:
1. "Don't feed the trolls; the more you do the more they poo."
2. Responding to that sort of stuff also nominates this thread to be closed for "spiraling."

Both points = don't acknowledge. Since we still have things to discuss here, let's stay on topic.

EQBallzz

Is all this mess with the guild history and addons causing an issue with guild applications? I assume it has because I have an application that was submitted the day before all this started and no word since. I assume they can't see it or maybe I'm just not accepting rejection well?

Pevey

Hopefully we will get another official update today. I am very concerned this will become the new stick in combat bug, ie, never resolved.

Sounds like there is not just a hardware issue with the servers, but perhaps use of non-optimal database technologies.

I mean, even 20 years ago, google servers in a home garage could search a database of the entire web, granted much smaller then than it is now. But there is not soooo much data or soooo many users that the servers should be having this level of difficulty with simple searches.

Dont_do_drugs

EQBallzz wrote: »

Is all this mess with the guild history and addons causing an issue with guild applications? I assume it has because I have an application that was submitted the day before all this started and no word since. I assume they can't see it or maybe I'm just not accepting rejection well?

i read a couple of reports, that guilds still receive applications despite beeing at 500 members (we cant kick, well) and despite having to disappear from the guild search then.

reoskit

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

EQBallzz wrote: »

Is all this mess with the guild history and addons causing an issue with guild applications? I assume it has because I have an application that was submitted the day before all this started and no word since. I assume they can't see it or maybe I'm just not accepting rejection well?

i read a couple of reports, that guilds still receive applications despite beeing at 500 members (we cant kick, well) and despite having to disappear from the guild search then.

@EQBallzz - Check out this bug thread and see if it feels familiar? Sadly, the guild finder has been messy for a while. I'm not sure if the guild history issue has added to the mix; we removed our guilds a while ago.

Edit: Sorry, I thought you meant you, as an officer, had an application missing. Reach out to the guild if you're really interested. For us, lots of applications stagnated because we couldn't see/interact with them. GL getting into the guild you want.

Dont_do_drugs

reoskit wrote: »

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

EQBallzz wrote: »

Is all this mess with the guild history and addons causing an issue with guild applications? I assume it has because I have an application that was submitted the day before all this started and no word since. I assume they can't see it or maybe I'm just not accepting rejection well?

i read a couple of reports, that guilds still receive applications despite beeing at 500 members (we cant kick, well) and despite having to disappear from the guild search then.

@EQBallzz - Check out this bug thread and see if it feels familiar? Sadly, the guild finder has been messy for a while. I'm not sure if the guild history issue has added to the mix; we removed our guilds a while ago.

Edit: Sorry, I thought you meant you, as an officer, had an application missing. Reach out to the guild if you're really interested. For us, lots of applications stagnated because we couldn't see/interact with them. GL getting into the guild you want.

No I had to send multiple declines saying, "Sorry, at the moment we are full and due to the server issues I cant kick people. Please try again later". Today another friend, GM of another trade guild reported same issue.

Edit: Oops, I only read that you were quoting me, but meant the other dude xD

KoultouraS

PvP and lately PvE is strugling under the burden of lag and server issues since ever, and none blinks an eye.
Suddenly trading is being bugged and everyone jumps on other's throats
You have to love this community.

May I add that we are those grumpy ones moaning about joining forces on demanding better services
before its too late, aka the problem reaches every aspect of the game!

Merlight

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

Merlight wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

Good points to which I generally agree with but in my case, and I dare say many others, if I cancelled my sub today they wouldn't notice for 9 months because that's how long I have left to run before I have to pay again.

Strange logic

a) You cancel now (yes they will see subscriptions dropping), send an email explaining why you cancelled. If many players are unhappy now and cancel right now, ZOS will get a clear message, perhaps even significant drop in subs during a short time period, indicating something on their side might be the culprit. And maybe if they start acting now, the game will have improved by the time your sub runs out.

b) You wait it out, cancel right before your sub runs out. Other players will cancel at different times. Will the drop in subscriptions (and accompanying "why I cancelled" emails) send as strong a message if it's spread over many months? Also, the chances they start fixing the game before your sub runs out, while not necessarily lower, are definitely not higher with this option.

The choice is yours.

It's not strange at all. You are making an enormous amount of assumptions.

Well, yes. I wrote a post with some dubious assumptions in response to your post with a dubious assumption ("if I cancelled my sub today they wouldn't notice"). And even if your assumption proved to be true (which is a possibility), suggesting that as a reason for staying subbed while not playing the game sounds stupid.

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

1. You assume that the powers that be would even know I and others had unsubscribed and that it wasn't just sitting in some email inbox in some admins office waiting for processing.

While you assume they're not getting monthly reports of new subs, lost subs, retained subs.

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

2. You assume that even if they did see it they would take notice, the fact that even if everyone in this thread unsubbed en masse it's probably still not as much as the natural organic cancellations due to lapses and other reasons they see on a daily basis. In other words, it would barely be a blip on their radar.

The first part I'm not going to argue with as I feel my English is not good enough to tell the difference between "see" and "take notice". I don't understand why you use "everyone in this thread" in this argument. Did you just assume that "everyone in this thread" is the exact same group of people as "every subscriber who has issues with the game"?
And finally, the ethos of "it doesn't matter what you do, you're just another brick in the wall"... Reminds me of how braindead people explain why they don't go to election: my 1 vote doesn't matter, it can't tip the scales.

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

3. You assume that the people in this thread are a representative sample of the general gaming population and what we do is reciprocated across all servers and all players. The reality is the forumites are a tiny minority of the general game population and what's more we are not representative at all because if we were we wouldn't be on these forums.

What? Where did you get that? I did not assume such thing, in fact I didn't even mention people in this thread, or this forum, so why would I assume anything about them?

Dont_do_drugs

KoultouraS wrote: »

PvP and lately PvE is strugling under the burden of lag and server issues since ever, and none blinks an eye.
Suddenly trading is being bugged and everyone jumps on other's throat's
You have to love this community.

May I add that we are those grumpy ones moaning about joining forces on demanding better services
before its too late, aka the problem reaches every aspect of the game!

This is weird, since PVP-, PVE- and Social guild related problems have been solved by removing everything the trading community needs, to work out properly, and now you come and complain about trading community, which gets everything while PVP, PVE and co nothing. There is absolutely no logic behind that.

reoskit

As an aside: I don't think things have been resolved with this guild history/addon stopgap. Plenty of people are still reporting the same issues they had prior to its implementation.

EQBallzz

reoskit wrote: »

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

EQBallzz wrote: »

Is all this mess with the guild history and addons causing an issue with guild applications? I assume it has because I have an application that was submitted the day before all this started and no word since. I assume they can't see it or maybe I'm just not accepting rejection well?

i read a couple of reports, that guilds still receive applications despite beeing at 500 members (we cant kick, well) and despite having to disappear from the guild search then.

@EQBallzz - Check out this bug thread and see if it feels familiar? Sadly, the guild finder has been messy for a while. I'm not sure if the guild history issue has added to the mix; we removed our guilds a while ago.

Edit: Sorry, I thought you meant you, as an officer, had an application missing. Reach out to the guild if you're really interested. For us, lots of applications stagnated because we couldn't see/interact with them. GL getting into the guild you want.

I would but I honestly don't know how to reach out to said guild. The guild finder page has no contact person and I'm not aware of any search tool in game to find someone from that guild. Is there some way to find the GM or officer (or even member) of a guild that I'm unaware of?

KoultouraS

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

KoultouraS wrote: »

PvP and lately PvE is strugling under the burden of lag and server issues since ever, and none blinks an eye.
Suddenly trading is being bugged and everyone jumps on other's throat's
You have to love this community.

May I add that we are those grumpy ones moaning about joining forces on demanding better services
before its too late, aka the problem reaches every aspect of the game!

This is weird, since PVP-, PVE- and Social guild related problems have been solved by removing everything the trading community needs, to work out properly, and now you come and complain about trading community, which gets everything while PVP, PVE and co nothing. There is absolutely no logic behind that.

Since you are misinterpreting what I am saying, I will do the work you should have done to understand what I am saying.
The community acts individually.
None blinks an eye as long as the issues do not interfere with their daily habbits.
Although most of the people here being handed forum bans, censorship and deletion of -what would be deemed perfectly logic- posts just for voicing their concerns over and over again.

All of us or most of us are members in guilds to trade, not all of us log in just to farm so to maintain them.
I personaly don't give a damn about what will happen with trading addons. I see the big picture.
Trading can live without the current addons, the game itself can't with the current state.

reoskit

EQBallzz wrote: »

Is there some way to find the GM or officer (or even member) of a guild that I'm unaware of?

Check your PMs/DMs/whatever we call them here.

Dont_do_drugs

KoultouraS wrote: »

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

KoultouraS wrote: »

PvP and lately PvE is strugling under the burden of lag and server issues since ever, and none blinks an eye.
Suddenly trading is being bugged and everyone jumps on other's throat's
You have to love this community.

May I add that we are those grumpy ones moaning about joining forces on demanding better services
before its too late, aka the problem reaches every aspect of the game!

This is weird, since PVP-, PVE- and Social guild related problems have been solved by removing everything the trading community needs, to work out properly, and now you come and complain about trading community, which gets everything while PVP, PVE and co nothing. There is absolutely no logic behind that.

Since you are misinterpreting what I am saying, I will do the work you should have done to understand what I am saying.
The community acts individually.
None blinks an eye as long as the issues do not interfere with their daily habbits.
Although most of the people here being handed forum bans, censorship and deletion of -what would be deemed perfectly logic- posts just for voicing their concerns over and over again.

All of us or most of us are members in guilds to trade, not all of us log in just to farm so to maintain them.
I personaly don't give a damn about what will happen with trading addons. I see the big picture.
Trading can live without the current addons, the game itself can't with the current state.

The fun part about this is, that not the "professional traders" are the ones, depending on these trading related addons (except for the GMs) that you give "a damn about", but the people, who want to think as less as possible about trading, ergo PVEers, Questers, Casuals, PVPers. Those who do not want to run around, looking up prices of other items same type, those who do not want to check all stores for one specific most cheap item.

reoskit

KoultouraS wrote: »

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

KoultouraS wrote: »

PvP and lately PvE is strugling under the burden of lag and server issues since ever, and none blinks an eye.
Suddenly trading is being bugged and everyone jumps on other's throat's
You have to love this community.

May I add that we are those grumpy ones moaning about joining forces on demanding better services
before its too late, aka the problem reaches every aspect of the game!

This is weird, since PVP-, PVE- and Social guild related problems have been solved by removing everything the trading community needs, to work out properly, and now you come and complain about trading community, which gets everything while PVP, PVE and co nothing. There is absolutely no logic behind that.

Since you are misinterpreting what I am saying, I will do the work you should have done to understand what I am saying.
The community acts individually.
None blinks an eye as long as the issues do not interfere with their daily habbits.
Although most of the people here being handed forum bans, censorship and deletion of -what would be deemed perfectly logic- posts just for voicing their concerns over and over again.

All of us or most of us are members in guilds to trade, not all of us log in just to farm so to maintain them.
I personaly don't give a damn about what will happen with trading addons. I see the big picture.
Trading can live without the current addons, the game itself can't with the current state.

Perhaps the better viewpoint on all of this is that you just got an army of people to join you in the request for better performance? There's no need for an us v. them when we're all asking for the same thing. It doesn't matter which realm you care most about. As you say, so many facets of this game are impacted right now, chances are everyone is feeling impact somewhere.

TheTraveler

Guys, I'm looking for an update on the guild history bug and the fact that guild history has been disabled... is there a separate thread for this somewhere? It's going on 2 days now... i can't see an official announcement or thread in this regard

reoskit

TheTraveler wrote: »

Guys, I'm looking for an update on the guild history bug and the fact that guild history has been disabled... is there a separate thread for this somewhere? It's going on 2 days now... i can't see an official announcement or thread in this regard

Most recent, at least in this thread:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone,

To update you on this issue, we're working on the in-game guild history and the guild history data utilized by addons. The current plan is to re-enable the in-game portion, but leave the addon functionality that use the guild history turned off for now. This is still a temporary solution until we are able to implement a better, more permanent fix. This change is planned for Monday's PC incremental patch.

Additionally, we want to clarify that although you aren't able to currently view guild history (such as gold deposits, which we understand is very important to many of you) we can confirm all deposits are still successfully going through, and you'll be able to view this history on Monday once we turn it back on. During this time, we'll also adjust the guild history back to 10 days. Thanks for your continued patience.

ZOS_RogerJ

Please remember to keep the thread on-topic, constructive, and civil. If there are any questions please see the community rules.

Mathius_Mordred

Merlight wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

Merlight wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

Good points to which I generally agree with but in my case, and I dare say many others, if I cancelled my sub today they wouldn't notice for 9 months because that's how long I have left to run before I have to pay again.

Strange logic

a) You cancel now (yes they will see subscriptions dropping), send an email explaining why you cancelled. If many players are unhappy now and cancel right now, ZOS will get a clear message, perhaps even significant drop in subs during a short time period, indicating something on their side might be the culprit. And maybe if they start acting now, the game will have improved by the time your sub runs out.

b) You wait it out, cancel right before your sub runs out. Other players will cancel at different times. Will the drop in subscriptions (and accompanying "why I cancelled" emails) send as strong a message if it's spread over many months? Also, the chances they start fixing the game before your sub runs out, while not necessarily lower, are definitely not higher with this option.

The choice is yours.

It's not strange at all. You are making an enormous amount of assumptions.

Well, yes. I wrote a post with some dubious assumptions in response to your post with a dubious assumption ("if I cancelled my sub today they wouldn't notice"). And even if your assumption proved to be true (which is a possibility), suggesting that as a reason for staying subbed while not playing the game sounds stupid.

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

1. You assume that the powers that be would even know I and others had unsubscribed and that it wasn't just sitting in some email inbox in some admins office waiting for processing.

While you assume they're not getting monthly reports of new subs, lost subs, retained subs.

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

2. You assume that even if they did see it they would take notice, the fact that even if everyone in this thread unsubbed en masse it's probably still not as much as the natural organic cancellations due to lapses and other reasons they see on a daily basis. In other words, it would barely be a blip on their radar.

The first part I'm not going to argue with as I feel my English is not good enough to tell the difference between "see" and "take notice". I don't understand why you use "everyone in this thread" in this argument. Did you just assume that "everyone in this thread" is the exact same group of people as "every subscriber who has issues with the game"?
And finally, the ethos of "it doesn't matter what you do, you're just another brick in the wall"... Reminds me of how braindead people explain why they don't go to election: my 1 vote doesn't matter, it can't tip the scales.

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

3. You assume that the people in this thread are a representative sample of the general gaming population and what we do is reciprocated across all servers and all players. The reality is the forumites are a tiny minority of the general game population and what's more we are not representative at all because if we were we wouldn't be on these forums.

What? Where did you get that? I did not assume such thing, in fact I didn't even mention people in this thread, or this forum, so why would I assume anything about them?

I'm not going to argue with you. Do what you like, it won't make any difference. What would make a difference is if they got a huge slating off some famous internet PC Gamer magazine, or famous Youtuber like Angry Joe, you or me withdrawing financial support, mate, we are not even a drop in the ocean. Been there, got the T-Shirt, it looks like this:

StabbityDoom

reoskit wrote: »

As an aside: I don't think things have been resolved with this guild history/addon stopgap. Plenty of people are still reporting the same issues they had prior to its implementation.

I was going to ask if anyone saw any change, especially on EU, but I'm afraid of the trolls from the people who hate addons (not all people who hate addons are trolls) or other groups trolling. I'd rather ZOS not get mixed messages... Maybe I should post it though, thoughts?

StabbityDoom

TheTraveler wrote: »

Guys, I'm looking for an update on the guild history bug and the fact that guild history has been disabled... is there a separate thread for this somewhere? It's going on 2 days now... i can't see an official announcement or thread in this regard

Hey @TheTraveler you want this thread then: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6131840/#Comment_6131840

KoultouraS

reoskit wrote: »

KoultouraS wrote: »

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

KoultouraS wrote: »

PvP and lately PvE is strugling under the burden of lag and server issues since ever, and none blinks an eye.
Suddenly trading is being bugged and everyone jumps on other's throat's
You have to love this community.

May I add that we are those grumpy ones moaning about joining forces on demanding better services
before its too late, aka the problem reaches every aspect of the game!

This is weird, since PVP-, PVE- and Social guild related problems have been solved by removing everything the trading community needs, to work out properly, and now you come and complain about trading community, which gets everything while PVP, PVE and co nothing. There is absolutely no logic behind that.

Since you are misinterpreting what I am saying, I will do the work you should have done to understand what I am saying.
The community acts individually.
None blinks an eye as long as the issues do not interfere with their daily habbits.
Although most of the people here being handed forum bans, censorship and deletion of -what would be deemed perfectly logic- posts just for voicing their concerns over and over again.

All of us or most of us are members in guilds to trade, not all of us log in just to farm so to maintain them.
I personaly don't give a damn about what will happen with trading addons. I see the big picture.
Trading can live without the current addons, the game itself can't with the current state.

Perhaps the better viewpoint on all of this is that you just got an army of people to join you in the request for better performance? There's no need for an us v. them when we're all asking for the same thing. It doesn't matter which realm you care most about. As you say, so many facets of this game are impacted right now, chances are everyone is feeling impact somewhere.

Ofc this is what I said before this post

KoultouraS wrote: »

PvP and lately PvE is strugling under the burden of lag and server issues since ever, and none blinks an eye.
Suddenly trading is being bugged and everyone jumps on other's throats
You have to love this community.

May I add that we are those grumpy ones moaning about joining forces on demanding better services
before its too late, aka the problem reaches every aspect of the game!

We have had our concerns noted and handed to the devs during the past months (if not years)
Now is the time for all to demand improvements.
When PvPers were crying out loud about performance, we were called crybabys
When lag hit PvE hard, we were joined by PvErs , or some of them who run endgame content.
Now the Traders join.

All in all , all of us would agree that the game sucks for a really long time. I ve seen posts here -- a vast minority-- that argue against that.
The community would gain a lot more, if what has been observed months ago,
and what you have been warned about months ago by PvPers was met with admitance by the whole community
instead of keep buying dlcs after dlcs and crown items.

I have canceled my eso + sub right after the log in Qs, because besides the practical aspect of it , it was a case that contradicted the decency I aim to have in my life. I am a crown buyer and not a steady ESO+ subscriber
but when I saw that Login Qs I just had enough, after being repeatedly mislead into buying something that
by any means is far beyond meeting any rational standard of quality gaming, I flipped!

What did most of the people do? Well sales show that despite the inappropriate state of the game
Elsweyr sales skyrocketed, or at least went really well.

This is how much we want this game to improve.
We keep buying stuff although we can't even enjoy them properly.
This is a terrible mistake, and it needs the community to step over.
As long as we keep feeding them with money like gooses for extracting the "Foie gras"
nothing is going to change.
We have been crying out loud about it for years, its just that now you all notice why

Eva13

Gargath

If you want major changes, best use your wallet, i.e. stop paying.

Elsonso

Gargath wrote: »

If you want major changes, best use your wallet, i.e. stop paying.

Other way around. If you want major changes, you need to buy the company and tell them to make major changes. Everything else is at the whim of someone else, whether you buy Crowns/ESO Plus or not.