Chat delay 10 minutes, guilds disappeared, friends disappeared PC-EU after maintenance 6/10/2019

vlakipn

Only thing worse from almost completely broken game and a fact that devs cant fix it for years - are random cux who claim that everything is fine and bugs are minor, or problem is on our side... Yeah, its our problem that we live in EU, shame on us because we cant wait a decade for a fix.

Mathius_Mordred

Cążki wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

So anyone who disagrees with you in the discussion should not be in the discussion because their opinion is detrimental to progress? If all you want are people who agree with you then don't visit a forum where people have a right to air their personal views. I value your opinion, I don't agree with all of it, I think it's exaggerating a problem that a few players are sadly experiencing, however the vast majority are not or would not class the problem as unplayable, clearly, as they are playing right now. Are there serious issues with EU server stability? Yes, is the game currently unplayable? For most no.

Dear mate. I know you have raights to be on other side. But. I was investiagate couple of your posts also on mu thread and your are disturbing an issue. You are making kind of dispersion effect. If you are ok so why at all you are here eee ? Im not want to tell you you are bad or paid by zos but mate be on one side. You are not helping us with this line of your voice. Also it completle not truth you say about" FOR MOST NO"

Game is broken PC-EU for all, there are couple of people that are paid by zos to being a fanboys and to sayu everything is ok. IF you have something to sy look at my thread about Quality i have 530+ people aginst 75 so dont tell the *** pls.

Ok, if I can interpret your post correctly, you are stating that if I have no issues I should not be on this thread voicing an opinion? This is the same argument as the other guy used and it's quite simply wrong. With regard to your Poll, firstly it was very poorly worded, secondly the choice was not well made. Let me be clear for you.

1. Am I satisfied with the performance of the EU servers? - No
2. Am I overall satisfied with the gameplay? - Yes
3. Do I experience game breaking bugs that make the game unplayable? No.
4. Do I experience some bugs that are irritating? Yes
5. Do most people in your guild experience bugs that make the game unplayable? No
6. Do most people in your guild play the game regularly without incident? Yes.
7. Do you suffer from frame rate drop to the point where the game is unplayable? No
8. Do you suffer from framerate drop at all? Yes (even with a phenomenal rigg)
9. Do you accept that some people find the game unplayable? Yes
10. Do you accept that all people find the game unplayable? No
11. Do you think that most people find the game playable? Yes

The exception was after patch 5.0.8 when certain aspects of the game were unplayable for a few hours, i.e. no friends list or guild, but this was put right by the next day when I logged in. Currently, there is a bug with guilds not showing history, this needs to be fixed very quickly but it does not make the game unplayable, it makes trading very difficult and affects guilds who require donations and tun lotteries, but the game itself is playing just fine.

So, let's be clear here. My objection was the original use of the word unplayable, meaning cannot be played. This is hyperbole as it is only a tiny amount of people who are affected in this way and the chances are it's not the game but their internet connection or PC that has a problem. If it was the servers then it would be far more widespread.

The issues at the moment appear to be server capacity and bandwidth, we are told that this is being worked on, we have been told that before so ZOS will excuse me if I don't take it at face value. The current issue appears to have been some error during the patch, but as we are not being told very much it is just guesswork on our part.

ZOS needs to address player concerns over performance as a priority for certain, they must, by now, surely see that. They need to do better and more rigorous QA testing of patches before release. I think we can all agree on that statement, however I stand by my comment that the game is not unplayable.

Myrm

Uryel wrote: »

... Been playing video games for 27 years,...

Pfft. Is that all? Noob! I have been playing games for 37 years. Does that make me more knowledgable and authoritative than you?

I am just waiting for the 37 years? Pfft. I have been playing for .....

Mathius_Mordred

Myrm wrote: »

Uryel wrote: »

... Been playing video games for 27 years,...

Pfft. Is that all? Noob! I have been playing games for 37 years. Does that make me more knowledgable and authoritative than you?

I am just waiting for the 37 years? Pfft. I have been playing for .....

42 years! Atari 2600 console, 1977!

Myrm

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

...42 years! Atari 2600 console, 1977!

I humbly pay obeisance

AyeshaBelladonna

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

Cążki wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

So anyone who disagrees with you in the discussion should not be in the discussion because their opinion is detrimental to progress? If all you want are people who agree with you then don't visit a forum where people have a right to air their personal views. I value your opinion, I don't agree with all of it, I think it's exaggerating a problem that a few players are sadly experiencing, however the vast majority are not or would not class the problem as unplayable, clearly, as they are playing right now. Are there serious issues with EU server stability? Yes, is the game currently unplayable? For most no.

Dear mate. I know you have raights to be on other side. But. I was investiagate couple of your posts also on mu thread and your are disturbing an issue. You are making kind of dispersion effect. If you are ok so why at all you are here eee ? Im not want to tell you you are bad or paid by zos but mate be on one side. You are not helping us with this line of your voice. Also it completle not truth you say about" FOR MOST NO"

Game is broken PC-EU for all, there are couple of people that are paid by zos to being a fanboys and to sayu everything is ok. IF you have something to sy look at my thread about Quality i have 530+ people aginst 75 so dont tell the *** pls.

Ok, if I can interpret your post correctly, you are stating that if I have no issues I should not be on this thread voicing an opinion? This is the same argument as the other guy used and it's quite simply wrong. With regard to your Poll, firstly it was very poorly worded, secondly the choice was not well made. Let me be clear for you.

1. Am I satisfied with the performance of the EU servers? - No
2. Am I overall satisfied with the gameplay? - Yes
3. Do I experience game breaking bugs that make the game unplayable? No.
4. Do I experience some bugs that are irritating? Yes
5. Do most people in your guild experience bugs that make the game unplayable? No
6. Do most people in your guild play the game regularly without incident? Yes.
7. Do you suffer from frame rate drop to the point where the game is unplayable? No
8. Do you suffer from framerate drop at all? Yes (even with a phenomenal rigg)
9. Do you accept that some people find the game unplayable? Yes
10. Do you accept that all people find the game unplayable? No
11. Do you think that most people find the game playable? Yes

The exception was after patch 5.0.8 when certain aspects of the game were unplayable for a few hours, i.e. no friends list or guild, but this was put right by the next day when I logged in. Currently, there is a bug with guilds not showing history, this needs to be fixed very quickly but it does not make the game unplayable, it makes trading very difficult and affects guilds who require donations and tun lotteries, but the game itself is playing just fine.

So, let's be clear here. My objection was the original use of the word unplayable, meaning cannot be played. This is hyperbole as it is only a tiny amount of people who are affected in this way and the chances are it's not the game but their internet connection or PC that has a problem. If it was the servers then it would be far more widespread.

The issues at the moment appear to be server capacity and bandwidth, we are told that this is being worked on, we have been told that before so ZOS will excuse me if I don't take it at face value. The current issue appears to have been some error during the patch, but as we are not being told very much it is just guesswork on our part.

ZOS needs to address player concerns over performance as a priority for certain, they must, by now, surely see that. They need to do better and more rigorous QA testing of patches before release. I think we can all agree on that statement, however I stand by my comment that the game is not unplayable.

Your guild history not showing right now is NOT a bug- its the band-aid fix that has your rosters and friend lists etc working for the moment. they are trying to come up with an answer (still on the trying to find root cause part atm) to the original problem. the turning off of the histories was intentional as a stopgap. Gina said so herself earlier in this thread.

Mathius_Mordred

AyeshaBelladonna wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

Cążki wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

So anyone who disagrees with you in the discussion should not be in the discussion because their opinion is detrimental to progress? If all you want are people who agree with you then don't visit a forum where people have a right to air their personal views. I value your opinion, I don't agree with all of it, I think it's exaggerating a problem that a few players are sadly experiencing, however the vast majority are not or would not class the problem as unplayable, clearly, as they are playing right now. Are there serious issues with EU server stability? Yes, is the game currently unplayable? For most no.

Dear mate. I know you have raights to be on other side. But. I was investiagate couple of your posts also on mu thread and your are disturbing an issue. You are making kind of dispersion effect. If you are ok so why at all you are here eee ? Im not want to tell you you are bad or paid by zos but mate be on one side. You are not helping us with this line of your voice. Also it completle not truth you say about" FOR MOST NO"

Game is broken PC-EU for all, there are couple of people that are paid by zos to being a fanboys and to sayu everything is ok. IF you have something to sy look at my thread about Quality i have 530+ people aginst 75 so dont tell the *** pls.

Ok, if I can interpret your post correctly, you are stating that if I have no issues I should not be on this thread voicing an opinion? This is the same argument as the other guy used and it's quite simply wrong. With regard to your Poll, firstly it was very poorly worded, secondly the choice was not well made. Let me be clear for you.

1. Am I satisfied with the performance of the EU servers? - No
2. Am I overall satisfied with the gameplay? - Yes
3. Do I experience game breaking bugs that make the game unplayable? No.
4. Do I experience some bugs that are irritating? Yes
5. Do most people in your guild experience bugs that make the game unplayable? No
6. Do most people in your guild play the game regularly without incident? Yes.
7. Do you suffer from frame rate drop to the point where the game is unplayable? No
8. Do you suffer from framerate drop at all? Yes (even with a phenomenal rigg)
9. Do you accept that some people find the game unplayable? Yes
10. Do you accept that all people find the game unplayable? No
11. Do you think that most people find the game playable? Yes

The exception was after patch 5.0.8 when certain aspects of the game were unplayable for a few hours, i.e. no friends list or guild, but this was put right by the next day when I logged in. Currently, there is a bug with guilds not showing history, this needs to be fixed very quickly but it does not make the game unplayable, it makes trading very difficult and affects guilds who require donations and tun lotteries, but the game itself is playing just fine.

So, let's be clear here. My objection was the original use of the word unplayable, meaning cannot be played. This is hyperbole as it is only a tiny amount of people who are affected in this way and the chances are it's not the game but their internet connection or PC that has a problem. If it was the servers then it would be far more widespread.

The issues at the moment appear to be server capacity and bandwidth, we are told that this is being worked on, we have been told that before so ZOS will excuse me if I don't take it at face value. The current issue appears to have been some error during the patch, but as we are not being told very much it is just guesswork on our part.

ZOS needs to address player concerns over performance as a priority for certain, they must, by now, surely see that. They need to do better and more rigorous QA testing of patches before release. I think we can all agree on that statement, however I stand by my comment that the game is not unplayable.

Your guild history not showing right now is NOT a bug- its the band-aid fix that has your rosters and friend lists etc working for the moment. they are trying to come up with an answer (still on the trying to find root cause part atm) to the original problem. the turning off of the histories was intentional as a stopgap. Gina said so herself earlier in this thread.

Indeed, you are correct, thanks for clarifying that point. It is a workaround fix to a bug introduced after the patch and needs sorting ASAP.

Wolfkeks

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

[...]ZOS needs to address player concerns over performance as a priority for certain, they must, by now, surely see that. They need to do better and more rigorous QA testing of patches before release. I think we can all agree on that statement, however I stand by my comment that the game is not unplayable.

I mean if we just change 'unplayable' to 'hard to play due to performance issues' I think we can all agree on that.
Yes, I can play, but playing on primetime sometimes with keeps not flipping, skills not firing or siege weapons not working makes it hard or not enjoyable to play.
So yeah, I get what you mean.
In our guild quite a lot of people are experiencing these issues both in pvp and pve, while others can play just fine. Though I can't tell how most players are affected by these issues as I don't have any numbers. We just see how people react on the forums and from my (subjective) perspective it looks like quite a few peeps have a hard time playing the game at. But again that is my perspective.

I just hope that ZOS is able to fix these issues that some/most/a group of players are experiencing.

[...]my son runs a very large PvP guild with 500 members and a reserve guild of 90 members waiting to get in[...]

Is that guild 'Firehearts' by any chance? Than I'm in that guild too ^^

KoultouraS

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

LiraTaurwen wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

LiraTaurwen wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO wrote: »

I came back recently after almost 2 years gone from this game...I am glad I did not now buy the new chapter, I will also be canceling my sub again. The EU server is worse than ever, just unplayable and pvp is outright unplayable. I can't recommend this game to anyone.

Jeez let's drop the hyperbole shall we? It's not unplayable at all, there are some issues with the guild history,l some issues with chat and some issues in Cyrodiil (not a new thing), but to say the game is unplayable is nonsense, if that's what you're finding then maybe you need to check your setup/ISP. Our guild ran two trials last night with no DCs, no lag, no problems at all infact, hardly unplayable. Perhaps you can specify why it's unplayable for you?

Dude stop! Some people have higher standards than you and it is right they expect a game working without lag and bugs.

That attitude is not helping. Things are only getting worse and still some you come here to say it's not that bad lol

Everyone should be demanding better service from ZoS!

This game is not worth it to be recomended for anyone. Why would anyone tell their friends to buy a broken game?

Cheeky bleeder, how the hell do you know what my standards are? FYI I play on a 34inch 2K monitor at well over 60fps most of the time dropping to 30 in very busy fights, that's with everything maxed as much as possible and Twitch streaming to the guild. The game looks and plays beautifully smooth, if you don't believe it check out last night's stream here:



There are bugs, all MMOs have bugs, try playing Star Trek online if you want to see bugs and rubber banding, that's not to say they shouldn't be addressed, of course they should, and server performance is a big issue right now, I've commented on it in the big thread many times with screenshots of issues we have seen since 5.0.8. and even our own news article about the problem: https://www.skyrimredshirts.com/post/major-game-disruption-after-patch-5-0-8

However, to state that it's unplayable is simply wrong. Sure it's unplayable if you can't actually get into Cyrodiil but that was a specific issue that is being addressed, my son runs a very large PvP guild with 500 members and a reserve guild of 90 members waiting to get in, he had very few issues last night running raids because I was watching him.

So yes, there are problems, and yes, they do need some serious attention to EU server stability and to take care that they don't Fook up the servers after every patch, but drop the hyperbole and let's discuss it like mature adults.

I see it as both hyperboles and comments like yours are detrimental to this discussion. I'm sorry but I'm tired of seeing people defending this for months (not saying its you) like nothing is wrong or like it's not too bad only to see things getting worse.

So anyone who disagrees with you in the discussion should not be in the discussion because their opinion is detrimental to progress? If all you want are people who agree with you then don't visit a forum where people have a right to air their personal views. I value your opinion, I don't agree with all of it, I think it's exaggerating a problem that a few players are sadly experiencing, however the vast majority are not or would not class the problem as unplayable, clearly, as they are playing right now. Are there serious issues with EU server stability? Yes, is the game currently unplayable? For most no.

Every one who disagrees is entitled to do so, what you are not entitled to do is to insist on persuading/[removed profanity] us about how "smooth" this game runs.
We have our own experience on the matter.We know for sure what smooth is , and this is not a smooth experience
I don't know whether you PvP or Pve (damn looks like the latter) but if you had a single time in PvP lately that didnt feel this game is grabing your money for offering terrible services, then we do have a great difference as for what to consider acceptable in an ONLINE game and what not.

If you are satisfied , good for you. We disagree , we call [removed profanity]on what you argue about, and we both get on with our lives.
Deal with it.

shaielzafine

lol

Tandor

Wolfkeks wrote: »

<snip> I mean if we just change 'unplayable' to 'hard to play due to performance issues' I think we can all agree on that. <snip>

I'd certainly agree on that, subject only to the qualification that it is not stated to be the case for all players, not even for all players on PC EU. A lot of the issues (and they undoubtedly exist) are very specific to particular playstyles.

rollingphoneseb17_ESO

Craft bag doesn't work. When I picked some nodes the materials always went inside the bag, not anymore, probably server lagging again.

rollingphoneseb17_ESO

rollingphoneseb17_ESO wrote: »

Craft bag doesn't work. When I picked some nodes the materials always went inside the bag, not anymore, probably server lagging again.

EDIT: My bad I have canceled ESO+.

Dont_do_drugs

rollingphoneseb17_ESO wrote: »

rollingphoneseb17_ESO wrote: »

Craft bag doesn't work. When I picked some nodes the materials always went inside the bag, not anymore, probably server lagging again.

EDIT: My bad I have canceled ESO+.

It was the first which came on my mind
My eso+ will run out these days as well after cancelation

Mathius_Mordred

Wolfkeks wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

[...]ZOS needs to address player concerns over performance as a priority for certain, they must, by now, surely see that. They need to do better and more rigorous QA testing of patches before release. I think we can all agree on that statement, however I stand by my comment that the game is not unplayable.

I mean if we just change 'unplayable' to 'hard to play due to performance issues' I think we can all agree on that.
Yes, I can play, but playing on primetime sometimes with keeps not flipping, skills not firing or siege weapons not working makes it hard or not enjoyable to play.
So yeah, I get what you mean.
In our guild quite a lot of people are experiencing these issues both in pvp and pve, while others can play just fine. Though I can't tell how most players are affected by these issues as I don't have any numbers. We just see how people react on the forums and from my (subjective) perspective it looks like quite a few peeps have a hard time playing the game at. But again that is my perspective.

I just hope that ZOS is able to fix these issues that some/most/a group of players are experiencing.

[...]my son runs a very large PvP guild with 500 members and a reserve guild of 90 members waiting to get in[...]

Is that guild 'Firehearts' by any chance? Than I'm in that guild too ^^

Indeed, in Cyro it can be hard to play, I will grant that and as I said it does need looking at. As to your second question I have signed an NDA but you're not a million miles out!

Mathius_Mordred

KoultouraS wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

LiraTaurwen wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

LiraTaurwen wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO wrote: »

I came back recently after almost 2 years gone from this game...I am glad I did not now buy the new chapter, I will also be canceling my sub again. The EU server is worse than ever, just unplayable and pvp is outright unplayable. I can't recommend this game to anyone.

Jeez let's drop the hyperbole shall we? It's not unplayable at all, there are some issues with the guild history,l some issues with chat and some issues in Cyrodiil (not a new thing), but to say the game is unplayable is nonsense, if that's what you're finding then maybe you need to check your setup/ISP. Our guild ran two trials last night with no DCs, no lag, no problems at all infact, hardly unplayable. Perhaps you can specify why it's unplayable for you?

Dude stop! Some people have higher standards than you and it is right they expect a game working without lag and bugs.

That attitude is not helping. Things are only getting worse and still some you come here to say it's not that bad lol

Everyone should be demanding better service from ZoS!

This game is not worth it to be recomended for anyone. Why would anyone tell their friends to buy a broken game?

Cheeky bleeder, how the hell do you know what my standards are? FYI I play on a 34inch 2K monitor at well over 60fps most of the time dropping to 30 in very busy fights, that's with everything maxed as much as possible and Twitch streaming to the guild. The game looks and plays beautifully smooth, if you don't believe it check out last night's stream here:



There are bugs, all MMOs have bugs, try playing Star Trek online if you want to see bugs and rubber banding, that's not to say they shouldn't be addressed, of course they should, and server performance is a big issue right now, I've commented on it in the big thread many times with screenshots of issues we have seen since 5.0.8. and even our own news article about the problem: https://www.skyrimredshirts.com/post/major-game-disruption-after-patch-5-0-8

However, to state that it's unplayable is simply wrong. Sure it's unplayable if you can't actually get into Cyrodiil but that was a specific issue that is being addressed, my son runs a very large PvP guild with 500 members and a reserve guild of 90 members waiting to get in, he had very few issues last night running raids because I was watching him.

So yes, there are problems, and yes, they do need some serious attention to EU server stability and to take care that they don't Fook up the servers after every patch, but drop the hyperbole and let's discuss it like mature adults.

I see it as both hyperboles and comments like yours are detrimental to this discussion. I'm sorry but I'm tired of seeing people defending this for months (not saying its you) like nothing is wrong or like it's not too bad only to see things getting worse.

So anyone who disagrees with you in the discussion should not be in the discussion because their opinion is detrimental to progress? If all you want are people who agree with you then don't visit a forum where people have a right to air their personal views. I value your opinion, I don't agree with all of it, I think it's exaggerating a problem that a few players are sadly experiencing, however the vast majority are not or would not class the problem as unplayable, clearly, as they are playing right now. Are there serious issues with EU server stability? Yes, is the game currently unplayable? For most no.

Every one who disagrees is entitled to do so, what you are not entitled to do is to insist on persuading/[removed profanity] us about how "smooth" this game runs.
We have our own experience on the matter.We know for sure what smooth is , and this is not a smooth experience
I don't know whether you PvP or Pve (damn looks like the latter) but if you had a single time in PvP lately that didnt feel this game is grabing your money for offering terrible services, then we do have a great difference as for what to consider acceptable in an ONLINE game and what not.

If you are satisfied , good for you. We disagree , we call [removed profanity]on what you argue about, and we both get on with our lives.
Deal with it.

I am dealing with it quite nicely thanks very much. Anger won't solve anything and had you bothered to read my entire post you will see that I called for immediate improvements to server capacity and bandwidth as we have been promised. For some, you must understand that it does indeed run very smoothly most of the time, notwithstanding the recent post 5.0.8 patch bugs.

Just because you and some others, predominantly in Cyro have a hard time does not mean that is the same for everyone, especially those not in PvP. Does that mean it's ok? no, of course not, does that mean it's unplayable? no, does that mean one should shout and whine like an entitled snowflake? well it depends on how you want to come across to others, as the latter or as a mature seasoned gamer who's seen it all before.

Put it down to experience, make the problems known to the Devs, let them try and fix it and if you are not satisfied then play something else for a while and take a chill pill whilst you're at it. It's just a game.

KoultouraS

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

KoultouraS wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

LiraTaurwen wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

LiraTaurwen wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO wrote: »

I came back recently after almost 2 years gone from this game...I am glad I did not now buy the new chapter, I will also be canceling my sub again. The EU server is worse than ever, just unplayable and pvp is outright unplayable. I can't recommend this game to anyone.

Jeez let's drop the hyperbole shall we? It's not unplayable at all, there are some issues with the guild history,l some issues with chat and some issues in Cyrodiil (not a new thing), but to say the game is unplayable is nonsense, if that's what you're finding then maybe you need to check your setup/ISP. Our guild ran two trials last night with no DCs, no lag, no problems at all infact, hardly unplayable. Perhaps you can specify why it's unplayable for you?

Dude stop! Some people have higher standards than you and it is right they expect a game working without lag and bugs.

That attitude is not helping. Things are only getting worse and still some you come here to say it's not that bad lol

Everyone should be demanding better service from ZoS!

This game is not worth it to be recomended for anyone. Why would anyone tell their friends to buy a broken game?

Cheeky bleeder, how the hell do you know what my standards are? FYI I play on a 34inch 2K monitor at well over 60fps most of the time dropping to 30 in very busy fights, that's with everything maxed as much as possible and Twitch streaming to the guild. The game looks and plays beautifully smooth, if you don't believe it check out last night's stream here:



There are bugs, all MMOs have bugs, try playing Star Trek online if you want to see bugs and rubber banding, that's not to say they shouldn't be addressed, of course they should, and server performance is a big issue right now, I've commented on it in the big thread many times with screenshots of issues we have seen since 5.0.8. and even our own news article about the problem: https://www.skyrimredshirts.com/post/major-game-disruption-after-patch-5-0-8

However, to state that it's unplayable is simply wrong. Sure it's unplayable if you can't actually get into Cyrodiil but that was a specific issue that is being addressed, my son runs a very large PvP guild with 500 members and a reserve guild of 90 members waiting to get in, he had very few issues last night running raids because I was watching him.

So yes, there are problems, and yes, they do need some serious attention to EU server stability and to take care that they don't Fook up the servers after every patch, but drop the hyperbole and let's discuss it like mature adults.

I see it as both hyperboles and comments like yours are detrimental to this discussion. I'm sorry but I'm tired of seeing people defending this for months (not saying its you) like nothing is wrong or like it's not too bad only to see things getting worse.

So anyone who disagrees with you in the discussion should not be in the discussion because their opinion is detrimental to progress? If all you want are people who agree with you then don't visit a forum where people have a right to air their personal views. I value your opinion, I don't agree with all of it, I think it's exaggerating a problem that a few players are sadly experiencing, however the vast majority are not or would not class the problem as unplayable, clearly, as they are playing right now. Are there serious issues with EU server stability? Yes, is the game currently unplayable? For most no.

Every one who disagrees is entitled to do so, what you are not entitled to do is to insist on persuading/[removed profanity] us about how "smooth" this game runs.
We have our own experience on the matter.We know for sure what smooth is , and this is not a smooth experience
I don't know whether you PvP or Pve (damn looks like the latter) but if you had a single time in PvP lately that didnt feel this game is grabing your money for offering terrible services, then we do have a great difference as for what to consider acceptable in an ONLINE game and what not.

If you are satisfied , good for you. We disagree , we call [removed profanity]on what you argue about, and we both get on with our lives.
Deal with it.

Put it down to experience, make the problems known to the Devs, let them try and fix it and if you are not satisfied then play something else for a while and take a chill pill whilst you're at it. It's just a game.

So you think the problems are not known to the Devs?
I wonder how long have you been around.

Do you also think that we haven't given them time?
I wonder how much they need, cuz frankly some issues date from launch day.

The only thing you are dead right about is that it is just a game.
A game we have payed enough money to warrant that we demand the services promised no matter the attitude we show
while demanding what we rightfully must be provided with .

Cążki

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

Poll, firstly it was very poorly worded, secondly the choice was not well made. Let me be clear for you.

Imposbile to make so many choises here due one person have one option to decide. Also you should say thanks to me because this pool cost me many time.

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

1. Am I satisfied with the performance of the EU servers? - No
2. Am I overall satisfied with the gameplay? - Yes
3. Do I experience game breaking bugs that make the game unplayable? No.
4. Do I experience some bugs that are irritating? Yes
5. Do most people in your guild experience bugs that make the game unplayable? No
6. Do most people in your guild play the game regularly without incident? Yes.
7. Do you suffer from frame rate drop to the point where the game is unplayable? No
8. Do you suffer from framerate drop at all? Yes (even with a phenomenal rigg)
9. Do you accept that some people find the game unplayable? Yes
10. Do you accept that all people find the game unplayable? No
11. Do you think that most people find the game playable? Yes

This is good what you make but:
Concetrate on 550 people(and this is only info from pool, imagine more poeple from outside the forum) who are not satisfy of EU server. Also your going to much due to fact rememeber we are on forum not on Q&A document. Also we are big feedback for devs. I need to use tools here like i have here. I will not make thousends qestions Q&A document due to fact this is not my job also there is to much people. So, my thread with two option is fine to see feelings.

You use "unplayable" word. OK. What means "unplayable" for you, means is "playable" for someone else, because for me unplayable is when i canot use content of product I was buy. I mean AFinder this tool is broken 100% the time and we need to w8 6 months when they rebuild this. Is this ok ? completly no.

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

The exception was after patch 5.0.8 when certain aspects of the game were unplayable for a few hours, i.e. no friends list or guild, but this was put right by the next day when I logged in. Currently, there is a bug with guilds not showing history, this needs to be fixed very quickly but it does not make the game unplayable, it makes trading very difficult and affects guilds who require donations and tun lotteries, but the game itself is playing just fine.

For me its unplaybale status of product. But for you losing milon gold a week is playable Also activity finder fff button is broken so game is broken 100% the time so game is unplayable. its simple . And there was very much info from forum comunity to devs from many threads.

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

Put it down to experience, make the problems known to the Devs, let them try and fix it and if you are not satisfied then play something else for a while and take a chill pill whilst you're at it. It's just a game.

Of course no. My advice is to boycott, dont defend zos any mercy for them, they have constructive infos on forum now the time is gone !





to be continued

Iluvrien

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

Put it down to experience, make the problems known to the Devs, let them try and fix it and if you are not satisfied then play something else for a while and take a chill pill whilst you're at it. It's just a game.

Just a game that some people have ongoing subscriptions to.

Are you suggesting a mass cancellation? Or just leaving those subs active while ZOS gets their act together?

Cążki

Iluvrien wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

Put it down to experience, make the problems known to the Devs, let them try and fix it and if you are not satisfied then play something else for a while and take a chill pill whilst you're at it. It's just a game.

Just a game that some people have ongoing subscriptions to.

Are you suggesting a mass cancellation? Or just leaving those subs active while ZOS gets their act together?

Stop sub.
Write as many as you can critic here and unsatisfaction of this unplayable situation of ESO.
Dont 50/50 zos, zero mercy, boycott

ZOS_GinaBruno

Hi everyone,

To update you on this issue, we're working on the in-game guild history and the guild history data utilized by addons. The current plan is to re-enable the in-game portion, but leave the addon functionality that use the guild history turned off for now. This is still a temporary solution until we are able to implement a better, more permanent fix. This change is planned for Monday's PC incremental patch.

Additionally, we want to clarify that although you aren't able to currently view guild history (such as gold deposits, which we understand is very important to many of you) we can confirm all deposits are still successfully going through, and you'll be able to view this history on Monday once we turn it back on. During this time, we'll also adjust the guild history back to 10 days. Thanks for your continued patience.

SweepsAllClowns

Players being patient and understanding is exactly why this game is so out of hands after 5 years, Zenimax does absolutely the minimum when players are tolerating too much. After having my account stuck for 3 months now I haven't got too much understanding left, It's very hard to support this game anymore even my account would start working again, also how long would be a reasonable time to wait for account working again after 3 months, 6 more months, a year or more perhaps?

Mathius_Mordred

Iluvrien wrote: »

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

Put it down to experience, make the problems known to the Devs, let them try and fix it and if you are not satisfied then play something else for a while and take a chill pill whilst you're at it. It's just a game.

Just a game that some people have ongoing subscriptions to.

Are you suggesting a mass cancellation? Or just leaving those subs active while ZOS gets their act together?

No, I am suggesting to play something else for a while. Whether you cancel your sub or not is irrelevant, the point is to take a break, cool down and come back when you feel like it or when news reaches you that problems have been solved.

Getting stressed over a video game is a first world problem if ever I've heard of one. I'm guilty of it too but in my case the game I played destroyed 8 years of work, storytelling, thousands of hours of computer time and then shadowbanned my account on the forum when I joined the mass complaints. It's a game that I spent enormous sums of money on, enough to fund a Dev's salary for half a year, and a game that no longer has my support financially.

I learned my lessons, I don't want others to go through what I did and I fully understand anyone who feels aggrieved by some decisions or problems in the game they love. However it is not worth losing sleep over, it is not worth getting stressed over, simply report it and move on, if it's not solved to your liking then leave, either temporarily or permanently, but don't let it stress you out, there's so much more out there to experience both in gaming and real life.

immozz01

i must be getting old, so do i get this right:

a part of a game is working pretty good, one does a patch and right after that, that part stops functioning, then it takes 3 days to figure out wth happened there and another 4 days to get a portion of it working again (if that works)?
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look! we have bankers now that look like a cat!!!

my ping is 9ms, i bet it would take shorter to get a fix if the cat would had crossed eyes

Hallothiel

Ok am on console so not affected but curious and would like to understand, so please forgive questions.

What is not working? Something in the game or in an add-on?
Or is it the add-on that is interacting with game in some way to cause problems?

If it is an add-on causing issues (not the game) why the outcry at the add-on being disabled?

Thanks for any nice replies.

Dont_do_drugs

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone,

To update you on this issue, we're working on the in-game guild history and the guild history data utilized by addons. The current plan is to re-enable the in-game portion, but leave the addon functionality that use the guild history turned off for now. This is still a temporary solution until we are able to implement a better, more permanent fix. This change is planned for Monday's PC incremental patch.

Additionally, we want to clarify that although you aren't able to currently view guild history (such as gold deposits, which we understand is very important to many of you) we can confirm all deposits are still successfully going through, and you'll be able to view this history on Monday once we turn it back on. During this time, we'll also adjust the guild history back to 10 days. Thanks for your continued patience.

Where is Finn, when you need him?

https://twitter.com/theSirToasty/status/1137896050201698304

mrpaxman

Thank you @ZOS_GinaBruno for the update and helpful information.

Gythral

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone,

To update you on this issue, we're working on the in-game guild history and the guild history data utilized by addons. The current plan is to re-enable the in-game portion, but leave the addon functionality that use the guild history turned off for now. This is still a temporary solution until we are able to implement a better, more permanent fix. This change is planned for Monday's PC incremental patch.

Additionally, we want to clarify that although you aren't able to currently view guild history (such as gold deposits, which we understand is very important to many of you) we can confirm all deposits are still successfully going through, and you'll be able to view this history on Monday once we turn it back on. During this time, we'll also adjust the guild history back to 10 days. Thanks for your continued patience.

Then why is at least this half-hearted 'fix' not going live today - not a week after the fact and too late for any GM to use the data for Sundays trader change over!!!

ZOS needs to return to reality & stop hiding in the ivory towers divorced from the reality they created!

mrpaxman

Hallothiel wrote: »

Ok am on console so not affected but curious and would like to understand, so please forgive questions.

What is not working? Something in the game or in an add-on?
Or is it the add-on that is interacting with game in some way to cause problems?

If it is an add-on causing issues (not the game) why the outcry at the add-on being disabled?

Thanks for any nice replies.

All guild history categories are blank for every guild basically. Some big issues that it is causing is add ons that track sales for guilds with selling quotas can not be used. Raffle ticket purchases made are unknown since most use an add on that uses the history for its information based on deposits made in the guild bank

Ackwalan

Mathius_Mordred wrote: »

Myrm wrote: »

Uryel wrote: »

... Been playing video games for 27 years,...

Pfft. Is that all? Noob! I have been playing games for 37 years. Does that make me more knowledgable and authoritative than you?

I am just waiting for the 37 years? Pfft. I have been playing for .....

42 years! Atari 2600 console, 1977!

Atari 1200 here. And I still have it and it still works, controllers and all.