Hey guys, is 2H still viable with magplar? I am thinking of going rattle/btb 5 heavy for 1vX, using onslaught. Also which monster set would you recommend? Thanks.
Hey guys, is 2H still viable with magplar? I am thinking of going rattle/btb 5 heavy for 1vX, using onslaught. Also which monster set would you recommend? Thanks.
RiskyChalice863 wrote: »To follow up on the above, another way to think about the major evasion thing is this:
A lot of classes have a burst combo that is made up of the following: (1) a delayed burst ability; (2) a spammable; (3) an ultimate; and (4) an execute.
Typically, the delayed burst and ultimate are mitigated by major evasion, while the spammable and execute are not.
For a Templar, the ultimates are going to be mitigated by major evasion. The delayed burst is going to be mostly, but not entirely, mitigated by major evasion (since a good portion of copied damage will actually not be AOE). The executes are not mitigated by major evasion. Up until this point, if anything, the Templar looks superior to a lot of other classes in terms of avoiding major evasion mitigation. Of course, the difference is that their spammable is mostly mitigated by major evasion too. However, their spammable does so much damage that even if it is mitigated by major evasion, it’s going to do as much or more damage than the spammable that other classes are using (one exception being Frags, but I believe MagSorcs have their execute mitigated by major evasion, so that’s a trade off), so it’s hard to really say Templars are left in bad shape overall.
To put names to this, let’s compare a Stamcro and Stamplar:
The Stamcro burst is made up of: (1) Blastbones; (2) Dizzying Swing; (3) Onslaught/Colossus/Dawnbreaker; and (4) Executioner.
The Stamplar burst is made up of: (1) Power of the Light; (2) Biting Jabs + Burning Light; (3) Onslaught/Dawnbreaker/ Crescent Sweep if no-CP; and (4) Executioner.
Obviously, #’s 3 and 4 are identical for these purposes, in that they’re both AOE for #3 and not AOE for #4. Meanwhile, Power of the Light is actually better in this regard than Blastbones, because major evasion doesn’t actually mitigate all of its damage. And while Dizzying Swing is not affected by major evasion while Biting Jabs is, the Stamplar will still get more damage from Biting Jabs + Burning Light than the Stamcro will get from Dizzying Swing.
RiskyChalice863 wrote: »Hey guys, is 2H still viable with magplar? I am thinking of going rattle/btb 5 heavy for 1vX, using onslaught. Also which monster set would you recommend? Thanks.
Yes, I think it is viable, particularly with a Greatsword. In fact, it’s probably more viable on Magplar than any other magicka class. With a Greatsword, you’ll get 6% extra damage on all damage from that, as opposed to 8% extra AOE damage from a lightning staff. Most Magplar damage is going to be AOE there are some abilities you might run that aren’t (such as Jesus beam, Vampire’s Bane, Dark Flare, etc.), so those bonuses can kind of be a wash depending on what skills you’re running. And a Greatsword will get you higher spell damage than a lightning staff would. So you’re probably actually looking at more damage on a Greatsword build than with a lightning staff. And the higher weapon damage means you should definitely have higher healing on your front bar with a Greatsword.
Greatsword also gives you some extra damage after a fully charged heavy attack, and a boatload of extra stamina recovery after a kill. Neither is a huge deal, but they’re nice to have.
Of course, the main downside to running a Greatsword is that you can’t get magicka back on a heavy attack. But you can run a resto staff or a destruction staff on the back bar to help you with that (note: since Templars have lots of HoTs and a healing ult in their class kit, you don’t need to go resto staff for Rapid Regen or resto ult, so you can back bar a frost staff for better blocking and potentially Elemental Drain if you want to use that).
Another downside to running a Greatsword is that you need to be in melee range to get ult charge going while on your front bar. But Magplars are naturally going to be close anyways, so this isn’t really much of a downside.
So, overall, I’d say not only is 2H viable on a Magplar, it actually may be the best option.
EDIT: As for monster set, not quite sure. I’ve been having a bit of a back and forth myself over what monster set to use on my Magplar. If you’re in heavy armor, you could probably get away with a damage set of some sort. Maybe Skoria or Grothdarr or Slimecraw?
SavageChain wrote: »RiskyChalice863 wrote: »Hey guys, is 2H still viable with magplar? I am thinking of going rattle/btb 5 heavy for 1vX, using onslaught. Also which monster set would you recommend? Thanks.
Yes, I think it is viable, particularly with a Greatsword. In fact, it’s probably more viable on Magplar than any other magicka class. With a Greatsword, you’ll get 6% extra damage on all damage from that, as opposed to 8% extra AOE damage from a lightning staff. Most Magplar damage is going to be AOE there are some abilities you might run that aren’t (such as Jesus beam, Vampire’s Bane, Dark Flare, etc.), so those bonuses can kind of be a wash depending on what skills you’re running. And a Greatsword will get you higher spell damage than a lightning staff would. So you’re probably actually looking at more damage on a Greatsword build than with a lightning staff. And the higher weapon damage means you should definitely have higher healing on your front bar with a Greatsword.
Greatsword also gives you some extra damage after a fully charged heavy attack, and a boatload of extra stamina recovery after a kill. Neither is a huge deal, but they’re nice to have.
Of course, the main downside to running a Greatsword is that you can’t get magicka back on a heavy attack. But you can run a resto staff or a destruction staff on the back bar to help you with that (note: since Templars have lots of HoTs and a healing ult in their class kit, you don’t need to go resto staff for Rapid Regen or resto ult, so you can back bar a frost staff for better blocking and potentially Elemental Drain if you want to use that).
Another downside to running a Greatsword is that you need to be in melee range to get ult charge going while on your front bar. But Magplars are naturally going to be close anyways, so this isn’t really much of a downside.
So, overall, I’d say not only is 2H viable on a Magplar, it actually may be the best option.
EDIT: As for monster set, not quite sure. I’ve been having a bit of a back and forth myself over what monster set to use on my Magplar. If you’re in heavy armor, you could probably get away with a damage set of some sort. Maybe Skoria or Grothdarr or Slimecraw?
You forgot the biggest downside of a stamina weapon on a magicka class: weak light attacks.
Light attacks with a staff add great dps to your skills even in PvP (they are damage source number one in PvE, in PvP they are not as dominant as is in PvE, but still quite important).
In general 2H is viable with the advantages of having a mix of damage bonus from the staves, some stam regen, higher base spelldamage and the onslaught ultimate. In Cyrodiiil or bgs 2H is fine, in duels a staff is the way to go though, since in the end it is more dps going a staff thanks to light attacks.
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RiskyChalice863 wrote: »Hey guys, is 2H still viable with magplar? I am thinking of going rattle/btb 5 heavy for 1vX, using onslaught. Also which monster set would you recommend? Thanks.
Yes, I think it is viable, particularly with a Greatsword. In fact, it’s probably more viable on Magplar than any other magicka class. With a Greatsword, you’ll get 6% extra damage on all damage from that, as opposed to 8% extra AOE damage from a lightning staff. Most Magplar damage is going to be AOE there are some abilities you might run that aren’t (such as Jesus beam, Vampire’s Bane, Dark Flare, etc.), so those bonuses can kind of be a wash depending on what skills you’re running. And a Greatsword will get you higher spell damage than a lightning staff would. So you’re probably actually looking at more damage on a Greatsword build than with a lightning staff. And the higher weapon damage means you should definitely have higher healing on your front bar with a Greatsword.
Greatsword also gives you some extra damage after a fully charged heavy attack, and a boatload of extra stamina recovery after a kill. Neither is a huge deal, but they’re nice to have.
Of course, the main downside to running a Greatsword is that you can’t get magicka back on a heavy attack. But you can run a resto staff or a destruction staff on the back bar to help you with that (note: since Templars have lots of HoTs and a healing ult in their class kit, you don’t need to go resto staff for Rapid Regen or resto ult, so you can back bar a frost staff for better blocking and potentially Elemental Drain if you want to use that).
Another downside to running a Greatsword is that you need to be in melee range to get ult charge going while on your front bar. But Magplars are naturally going to be close anyways, so this isn’t really much of a downside.
So, overall, I’d say not only is 2H viable on a Magplar, it actually may be the best option.
EDIT: As for monster set, not quite sure. I’ve been having a bit of a back and forth myself over what monster set to use on my Magplar. If you’re in heavy armor, you could probably get away with a damage set of some sort. Maybe Skoria or Grothdarr or Slimecraw?
I think I need your help with my stamplar. Unlike the magicka counterpart my stamplar is no longer shining in any areas: damage is lacklustre and I'm also very squishy.
I'm still using 5 medium: BS + Bone pirate + Hundings, bow and 2h: should I go heavy? different monster set? 2 damage sets?...confused
Admittedly I have not played my Stamplar in a while but I'm quite lost especially in comparison to my other Stramina main - DK.
What are you guys using these days in terms of gear and skills? thanks
Currently running BTB/Rattle/Grothdarr and I am trying to tweak for best damage/heals in CP Cyro.
I'm sitting on 36.5k mag and 3k SD and running the Lover mundus. Still not hitting hard enough in CP. Thinking of swapping my arcane jewels for infused with SD at the cost of mag - would this be advisable?
Currently running BTB/Rattle/Grothdarr and I am trying to tweak for best damage/heals in CP Cyro.
I'm sitting on 36.5k mag and 3k SD and running the Lover mundus. Still not hitting hard enough in CP. Thinking of swapping my arcane jewels for infused with SD at the cost of mag - would this be advisable?
Hum pariah... I was thinking 5H with stuhn. How is the sustain as a stage 4?
Stuhn + shackle + 1 piece speed mythic + stat piece. Back bar potatoes or BRP DW, but I can’t decide between heavy or light.
I think I need your help with my stamplar. Unlike the magicka counterpart my stamplar is no longer shining in any areas: damage is lacklustre and I'm also very squishy.
I'm still using 5 medium: BS + Bone pirate + Hundings, bow and 2h: should I go heavy? different monster set? 2 damage sets?...confused
Admittedly I have not played my Stamplar in a while but I'm quite lost especially in comparison to my other Stramina main - DK.
What are you guys using these days in terms of gear and skills? thanks
Currently running BTB/Rattle/Grothdarr and I am trying to tweak for best damage/heals in CP Cyro.
I'm sitting on 36.5k mag and 3k SD and running the Lover mundus. Still not hitting hard enough in CP. Thinking of swapping my arcane jewels for infused with SD at the cost of mag - would this be advisable?