Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Omg @irstarkey57 please just get off the forums. You are on a Nerf-Templar rampage!!!! Bro, you need to L2P.
Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Omg @irstarkey57 please just get off the forums. You are on a Nerf-Templar rampage!!!! Bro, you need to L2P.
Is this that "4 year experience magdk" from the other posts?
irstarkey57 wrote: »Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Omg @irstarkey57 please just get off the forums. You are on a Nerf-Templar rampage!!!! Bro, you need to L2P.
Is this that "4 year experience magdk" from the other posts?
I play all classes. Flawless Conqueror on ea as a benchmark.
irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Templars have a good spammable yes, it's also the only spammable that requires manual aim.
Vigor is still a better heal then BoL/HTD because it lets you go offensive while getting healed and it doesn't require a certain weapon to use like rapid regen does. Best sustain? Pretty sure thats still magsorc and magblade. Dark deal and passive 15% to all regen is nothing terrible.
BaiterOfZergs wrote: »If I recall spring loaded is considered a drink right ?
And I’ve played a little magplar and stamplar this update, I think stamplar is still more fun; maybe because it fits my style more. I have noticed I get less frustrated on my magplar though.
Not that smart huh? The point was to weed out people commenting on L2P. I don’t claim to the best at it. I just claim to have some knowledge of the game. That is literally it. Not sure what your problem is.irstarkey57 wrote: »Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Omg @irstarkey57 please just get off the forums. You are on a Nerf-Templar rampage!!!! Bro, you need to L2P.
Is this that "4 year experience magdk" from the other posts?
I play all classes. Flawless Conqueror on ea as a benchmark.
Why do you keep talking about PvE in PvP threads? No relevance.
I was doing 580k runs, chasing PC rank 1 in 2016, so what?
Should be @isaturkey57. There'd be no issue in carving you up lad.
irstarkey57 wrote: »Not that smart huh? The point was to weed out people commenting on L2P. I don’t claim to the best at it. I just claim to have some knowledge of the game. That is literally it. Not sure what your problem is.irstarkey57 wrote: »Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Omg @irstarkey57 please just get off the forums. You are on a Nerf-Templar rampage!!!! Bro, you need to L2P.
Is this that "4 year experience magdk" from the other posts?
I play all classes. Flawless Conqueror on ea as a benchmark.
Why do you keep talking about PvE in PvP threads? No relevance.
I was doing 580k runs, chasing PC rank 1 in 2016, so what?
Should be @isaturkey57. There'd be no issue in carving you up lad.
I think Spring loaded is much better than witch mother's ever since wm was nerfed. But as BNOC mentioned Ghastly Eye Bowl (which shows up as Eye Scream in S'rendarr's lol) is definitely a contender if you can get your stam/health from other souces (imperial?).BaiterOfZergs wrote: »If I recall spring loaded is considered a drink right ?
And I’ve played a little magplar and stamplar this update, I think stamplar is still more fun; maybe because it fits my style more. I have noticed I get less frustrated on my magplar though.
BaiterOfZergs wrote: »If I recall spring loaded is considered a drink right ?
And I’ve played a little magplar and stamplar this update, I think stamplar is still more fun; maybe because it fits my style more. I have noticed I get less frustrated on my magplar though.
Yes you can use SLI with Bright Throat - I think common choices are SLI, WMPB and Ghastly Eye or whatever it is (Max Mag and Regen) but that's better suited for places like IC if you're running Imp Physique.
irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Templars have a good spammable yes, it's also the only spammable that requires manual aim.
Vigor is still a better heal then BoL/HTD because it lets you go offensive while getting healed and it doesn't require a certain weapon to use like rapid regen does. Best sustain? Pretty sure thats still magsorc and magblade. Dark deal and passive 15% to all regen is nothing terrible.
Don't worry, we already packed up his misguided opinion in another thread.
irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Templars have a good spammable yes, it's also the only spammable that requires manual aim.
Vigor is still a better heal then BoL/HTD because it lets you go offensive while getting healed and it doesn't require a certain weapon to use like rapid regen does. Best sustain? Pretty sure thats still magsorc and magblade. Dark deal and passive 15% to all regen is nothing terrible.
irstarkey57 wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Templars have a good spammable yes, it's also the only spammable that requires manual aim.
Vigor is still a better heal then BoL/HTD because it lets you go offensive while getting healed and it doesn't require a certain weapon to use like rapid regen does. Best sustain? Pretty sure thats still magsorc and magblade. Dark deal and passive 15% to all regen is nothing terrible.
Sorry mate I disagree. I think it’s fairly clear that magplars have the biggest toolkit going perhaps besides magsorcs. I can understand how Templar’s won’t like to admit this however. I’ve said what I came to say and inevitably the L2P comments have arrived. Cheers.
Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Omg @irstarkey57 please just get off the forums. You are on a Nerf-Templar rampage!!!! Bro, you need to L2P.
Is this that "4 year experience magdk" from the other posts?
irstarkey57 wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Templars have a good spammable yes, it's also the only spammable that requires manual aim.
Vigor is still a better heal then BoL/HTD because it lets you go offensive while getting healed and it doesn't require a certain weapon to use like rapid regen does. Best sustain? Pretty sure thats still magsorc and magblade. Dark deal and passive 15% to all regen is nothing terrible.
Sorry mate I disagree. I think it’s fairly clear that magplars have the biggest toolkit going perhaps besides magsorcs. I can understand how Templar’s won’t like to admit this however. I’ve said what I came to say and inevitably the L2P comments have arrived. Cheers.
No, you are just terribly biased and dont understand templar isnt the problem and the current dot ridden meta is, templars happen to be a class with their identity ability being an excellent self-purge ability which is the best thing to have currently.
Try to go back a month back - has anyone complained about templars back then? Is it the classes fault or a coincidental interaction with current meta? I think its the latter, im fairly sure it is actually, but you are too ignorant to see anythine else than your own entitled opinion. I believe alliance skill purge needs a rework - cheap self version removing 3 effects with 4k mag base cost and a more expensive aoe morph like efficient purge is.
irstarkey57 wrote: »Not that smart huh? The point was to weed out people commenting on L2P. I don’t claim to the best at it. I just claim to have some knowledge of the game. That is literally it. Not sure what your problem is.irstarkey57 wrote: »Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Omg @irstarkey57 please just get off the forums. You are on a Nerf-Templar rampage!!!! Bro, you need to L2P.
Is this that "4 year experience magdk" from the other posts?
I play all classes. Flawless Conqueror on ea as a benchmark.
Why do you keep talking about PvE in PvP threads? No relevance.
I was doing 580k runs, chasing PC rank 1 in 2016, so what?
Should be @isaturkey57. There'd be no issue in carving you up lad.
irstarkey57 wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Templars have a good spammable yes, it's also the only spammable that requires manual aim.
Vigor is still a better heal then BoL/HTD because it lets you go offensive while getting healed and it doesn't require a certain weapon to use like rapid regen does. Best sustain? Pretty sure thats still magsorc and magblade. Dark deal and passive 15% to all regen is nothing terrible.
Don't worry, we already packed up his misguided opinion in another thread.
We? Look, if you guys think there is a stronger class in pvp right, you are feel free to leave me to my misguided opinions in saying that I think you are mistaken. Pack my opinions up or do whatever weirdness you want....lol I don’t even know. Guessing Xbox players...
irstarkey57 wrote: »Not that smart huh? The point was to weed out people commenting on L2P. I don’t claim to the best at it. I just claim to have some knowledge of the game. That is literally it. Not sure what your problem is.irstarkey57 wrote: »Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Omg @irstarkey57 please just get off the forums. You are on a Nerf-Templar rampage!!!! Bro, you need to L2P.
Is this that "4 year experience magdk" from the other posts?
I play all classes. Flawless Conqueror on ea as a benchmark.
Why do you keep talking about PvE in PvP threads? No relevance.
I was doing 580k runs, chasing PC rank 1 in 2016, so what?
Should be @isaturkey57. There'd be no issue in carving you up lad.
PvE and PvP are unrelated for the most part but alright.irstarkey57 wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Templars have a good spammable yes, it's also the only spammable that requires manual aim.
Vigor is still a better heal then BoL/HTD because it lets you go offensive while getting healed and it doesn't require a certain weapon to use like rapid regen does. Best sustain? Pretty sure thats still magsorc and magblade. Dark deal and passive 15% to all regen is nothing terrible.
Don't worry, we already packed up his misguided opinion in another thread.
We? Look, if you guys think there is a stronger class in pvp right, you are feel free to leave me to my misguided opinions in saying that I think you are mistaken. Pack my opinions up or do whatever weirdness you want....lol I don’t even know. Guessing Xbox players...
I wasn't the only one that replied to your Magdk vs Templar nonsense on the other post, hence 'we'.
The reason I don't leave you to it is that you're the problem, people like you are the problem - You read some complaints and jump on the bandwagon about how OP Templar is, but what you're actually doing with these misguided posts is getting more fotm chasers excited enough to jump on a class you say you can't handle, thus more complaining will ensue. It's a recursive loop and you're aiding it's continuation.
So you can't handle Templars this patch, big deal; everyone experiences that - You don't need to make stuff up to put that poin across.
Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Omg @irstarkey57 please just get off the forums. You are on a Nerf-Templar rampage!!!! Bro, you need to L2P.
Is this that "4 year experience magdk" from the other posts?
Yep.
EtTuBrutus wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »@Rhaegar75
Full triune, i get my resistance from the lady... if you know what i mean! Heeeeeeeeyyyy. Using wm brew too.
I use spring loaded and astro mundus, with bloodspawn open world or shadow redend for small scall
Im trading that the little bit of extra stats and the stam for lady mundus. 18k isnt needed imo. I'd rather have the extra resists.
Yea each to their own, i like to have big stam pool on my plar for block, dodge roll and break free, always come in handy
irstarkey57 wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »Not that smart huh? The point was to weed out people commenting on L2P. I don’t claim to the best at it. I just claim to have some knowledge of the game. That is literally it. Not sure what your problem is.irstarkey57 wrote: »Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Omg @irstarkey57 please just get off the forums. You are on a Nerf-Templar rampage!!!! Bro, you need to L2P.
Is this that "4 year experience magdk" from the other posts?
I play all classes. Flawless Conqueror on ea as a benchmark.
Why do you keep talking about PvE in PvP threads? No relevance.
I was doing 580k runs, chasing PC rank 1 in 2016, so what?
Should be @isaturkey57. There'd be no issue in carving you up lad.
PvE and PvP are unrelated for the most part but alright.irstarkey57 wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Templars have a good spammable yes, it's also the only spammable that requires manual aim.
Vigor is still a better heal then BoL/HTD because it lets you go offensive while getting healed and it doesn't require a certain weapon to use like rapid regen does. Best sustain? Pretty sure thats still magsorc and magblade. Dark deal and passive 15% to all regen is nothing terrible.
Don't worry, we already packed up his misguided opinion in another thread.
We? Look, if you guys think there is a stronger class in pvp right, you are feel free to leave me to my misguided opinions in saying that I think you are mistaken. Pack my opinions up or do whatever weirdness you want....lol I don’t even know. Guessing Xbox players...
I wasn't the only one that replied to your Magdk vs Templar nonsense on the other post, hence 'we'.
The reason I don't leave you to it is that you're the problem, people like you are the problem - You read some complaints and jump on the bandwagon about how OP Templar is, but what you're actually doing with these misguided posts is getting more fotm chasers excited enough to jump on a class you say you can't handle, thus more complaining will ensue. It's a recursive loop and you're aiding it's continuation.
So you can't handle Templars this patch, big deal; everyone experiences that - You don't need to make stuff up to put that poin across.
I didn’t make one thing up. Where are you getting this from? What did I make up? I also play magplar, and every other class. Depends on which one of my 18 toons I feel like playing that day. I don’t think it is balanced gameplay, in a super strong single target dot meta to have a class be able to not only heal out of them stronger than any other class, but to be able to simply just cleanse them. Yes they have always had a cleanse that is just plain strong as is, but in a meta where degeneration, soul trap, and single target dots run rampant; magplars get a huge indirect buff because they can simply cleanse them. On top of that, the eclipse skill has zero counter play unless you would like to slow, stun, and immobilize yourself while healing the caster. So for you or anyone else to argue that is balanced, I’m here to say No, it is not. Not sure what it is like on Xbox but BG’s on PCNA atm are all Templars and magsorcs. Pretty obvious why IMO.
EtTuBrutus wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »Not that smart huh? The point was to weed out people commenting on L2P. I don’t claim to the best at it. I just claim to have some knowledge of the game. That is literally it. Not sure what your problem is.irstarkey57 wrote: »Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Omg @irstarkey57 please just get off the forums. You are on a Nerf-Templar rampage!!!! Bro, you need to L2P.
Is this that "4 year experience magdk" from the other posts?
I play all classes. Flawless Conqueror on ea as a benchmark.
Why do you keep talking about PvE in PvP threads? No relevance.
I was doing 580k runs, chasing PC rank 1 in 2016, so what?
Should be @isaturkey57. There'd be no issue in carving you up lad.
PvE and PvP are unrelated for the most part but alright.irstarkey57 wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Templars have a good spammable yes, it's also the only spammable that requires manual aim.
Vigor is still a better heal then BoL/HTD because it lets you go offensive while getting healed and it doesn't require a certain weapon to use like rapid regen does. Best sustain? Pretty sure thats still magsorc and magblade. Dark deal and passive 15% to all regen is nothing terrible.
Don't worry, we already packed up his misguided opinion in another thread.
We? Look, if you guys think there is a stronger class in pvp right, you are feel free to leave me to my misguided opinions in saying that I think you are mistaken. Pack my opinions up or do whatever weirdness you want....lol I don’t even know. Guessing Xbox players...
I wasn't the only one that replied to your Magdk vs Templar nonsense on the other post, hence 'we'.
The reason I don't leave you to it is that you're the problem, people like you are the problem - You read some complaints and jump on the bandwagon about how OP Templar is, but what you're actually doing with these misguided posts is getting more fotm chasers excited enough to jump on a class you say you can't handle, thus more complaining will ensue. It's a recursive loop and you're aiding it's continuation.
So you can't handle Templars this patch, big deal; everyone experiences that - You don't need to make stuff up to put that poin across.
I didn’t make one thing up. Where are you getting this from? What did I make up? I also play magplar, and every other class. Depends on which one of my 18 toons I feel like playing that day. I don’t think it is balanced gameplay, in a super strong single target dot meta to have a class be able to not only heal out of them stronger than any other class, but to be able to simply just cleanse them. Yes they have always had a cleanse that is just plain strong as is, but in a meta where degeneration, soul trap, and single target dots run rampant; magplars get a huge indirect buff because they can simply cleanse them. On top of that, the eclipse skill has zero counter play unless you would like to slow, stun, and immobilize yourself while healing the caster. So for you or anyone else to argue that is balanced, I’m here to say No, it is not. Not sure what it is like on Xbox but BG’s on PCNA atm are all Templars and magsorcs. Pretty obvious why IMO.
Are you lining up your burst? The heal on eclipse isn't what you're making it out to be. It's a heal that requires you to take direct damage to occur at 4.3k magicka. You can't use it effectively while kiting (although it still makes kiting easier bc of the root). It helps someone survive pressure sure, but a good burst combo (which nearly every zergling has strayed from bc they see big tool tips) will put a templar down still.
If you're saying the skill does too much, you could make a case, but there are tons of skills that do just as much at that cost and are less situational. It has the potential to do nothing. It's a situational spell, that's very good for its purpose. Again, there are tons of skills like this. People are just having a problem with it bc they're building to play what it's effective at countering (zerglings).
How would you tone it down? You're mentioning 2 skills, cleanse and living dark, that cost 8k to cast.
If you're only attacks are dots and light attacks (zergling) of course you're getting beat. Every class can handle this meta. If youre upset bc the class that's built to handle dots better than the others is effective at handling dots, I'm not sure what to tell you.
irstarkey57 wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »Not that smart huh? The point was to weed out people commenting on L2P. I don’t claim to the best at it. I just claim to have some knowledge of the game. That is literally it. Not sure what your problem is.irstarkey57 wrote: »Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Omg @irstarkey57 please just get off the forums. You are on a Nerf-Templar rampage!!!! Bro, you need to L2P.
Is this that "4 year experience magdk" from the other posts?
I play all classes. Flawless Conqueror on ea as a benchmark.
Why do you keep talking about PvE in PvP threads? No relevance.
I was doing 580k runs, chasing PC rank 1 in 2016, so what?
Should be @isaturkey57. There'd be no issue in carving you up lad.
PvE and PvP are unrelated for the most part but alright.irstarkey57 wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Templars have a good spammable yes, it's also the only spammable that requires manual aim.
Vigor is still a better heal then BoL/HTD because it lets you go offensive while getting healed and it doesn't require a certain weapon to use like rapid regen does. Best sustain? Pretty sure thats still magsorc and magblade. Dark deal and passive 15% to all regen is nothing terrible.
Don't worry, we already packed up his misguided opinion in another thread.
We? Look, if you guys think there is a stronger class in pvp right, you are feel free to leave me to my misguided opinions in saying that I think you are mistaken. Pack my opinions up or do whatever weirdness you want....lol I don’t even know. Guessing Xbox players...
I wasn't the only one that replied to your Magdk vs Templar nonsense on the other post, hence 'we'.
The reason I don't leave you to it is that you're the problem, people like you are the problem - You read some complaints and jump on the bandwagon about how OP Templar is, but what you're actually doing with these misguided posts is getting more fotm chasers excited enough to jump on a class you say you can't handle, thus more complaining will ensue. It's a recursive loop and you're aiding it's continuation.
So you can't handle Templars this patch, big deal; everyone experiences that - You don't need to make stuff up to put that poin across.
I didn’t make one thing up. Where are you getting this from? What did I make up? I also play magplar, and every other class. Depends on which one of my 18 toons I feel like playing that day. I don’t think it is balanced gameplay, in a super strong single target dot meta to have a class be able to not only heal out of them stronger than any other class, but to be able to simply just cleanse them. Yes they have always had a cleanse that is just plain strong as is, but in a meta where degeneration, soul trap, and single target dots run rampant; magplars get a huge indirect buff because they can simply cleanse them. On top of that, the eclipse skill has zero counter play unless you would like to slow, stun, and immobilize yourself while healing the caster. So for you or anyone else to argue that is balanced, I’m here to say No, it is not. Not sure what it is like on Xbox but BG’s on PCNA atm are all Templars and magsorcs. Pretty obvious why IMO.
Are you lining up your burst? The heal on eclipse isn't what you're making it out to be. It's a heal that requires you to take direct damage to occur at 4.3k magicka. You can't use it effectively while kiting (although it still makes kiting easier bc of the root). It helps someone survive pressure sure, but a good burst combo (which nearly every zergling has strayed from bc they see big tool tips) will put a templar down still.
If you're saying the skill does too much, you could make a case, but there are tons of skills that do just as much at that cost and are less situational. It has the potential to do nothing. It's a situational spell, that's very good for its purpose. Again, there are tons of skills like this. People are just having a problem with it bc they're building to play what it's effective at countering (zerglings).
How would you tone it down? You're mentioning 2 skills, cleanse and living dark, that cost 8k to cast.
If you're only attacks are dots and light attacks (zergling) of course you're getting beat. Every class can handle this meta. If youre upset bc the class that's built to handle dots better than the others is effective at handling dots, I'm not sure what to tell you.
Well I mostly main a magdk like I said do lining up my burst basically consists of casting ele drain, degen, consuming trap, and burning embers on the target, hope they don’t all get purged from ritual, and then fossilize/leap combo. Now if they have a bubble on them or me that obviously makes it a little harder. To answer your question, I do know how to line up my burst combos.
Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »I would comment on the ongoing zergfest, but I think one of my comments was reported...not going to say by whoooo....but yea.
Templars are fun for people who main a templar. Doesn't make them OP or better than other classes that have much better class skill/passive synergy and better damage output/tankability/mobility....
irstarkey57 wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »Not that smart huh? The point was to weed out people commenting on L2P. I don’t claim to the best at it. I just claim to have some knowledge of the game. That is literally it. Not sure what your problem is.irstarkey57 wrote: »Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Omg @irstarkey57 please just get off the forums. You are on a Nerf-Templar rampage!!!! Bro, you need to L2P.
Is this that "4 year experience magdk" from the other posts?
I play all classes. Flawless Conqueror on ea as a benchmark.
Why do you keep talking about PvE in PvP threads? No relevance.
I was doing 580k runs, chasing PC rank 1 in 2016, so what?
Should be @isaturkey57. There'd be no issue in carving you up lad.
PvE and PvP are unrelated for the most part but alright.irstarkey57 wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Templars have a good spammable yes, it's also the only spammable that requires manual aim.
Vigor is still a better heal then BoL/HTD because it lets you go offensive while getting healed and it doesn't require a certain weapon to use like rapid regen does. Best sustain? Pretty sure thats still magsorc and magblade. Dark deal and passive 15% to all regen is nothing terrible.
Don't worry, we already packed up his misguided opinion in another thread.
We? Look, if you guys think there is a stronger class in pvp right, you are feel free to leave me to my misguided opinions in saying that I think you are mistaken. Pack my opinions up or do whatever weirdness you want....lol I don’t even know. Guessing Xbox players...
I wasn't the only one that replied to your Magdk vs Templar nonsense on the other post, hence 'we'.
The reason I don't leave you to it is that you're the problem, people like you are the problem - You read some complaints and jump on the bandwagon about how OP Templar is, but what you're actually doing with these misguided posts is getting more fotm chasers excited enough to jump on a class you say you can't handle, thus more complaining will ensue. It's a recursive loop and you're aiding it's continuation.
So you can't handle Templars this patch, big deal; everyone experiences that - You don't need to make stuff up to put that poin across.
I didn’t make one thing up. Where are you getting this from? What did I make up? I also play magplar, and every other class. Depends on which one of my 18 toons I feel like playing that day. I don’t think it is balanced gameplay, in a super strong single target dot meta to have a class be able to not only heal out of them stronger than any other class, but to be able to simply just cleanse them. Yes they have always had a cleanse that is just plain strong as is, but in a meta where degeneration, soul trap, and single target dots run rampant; magplars get a huge indirect buff because they can simply cleanse them. On top of that, the eclipse skill has zero counter play unless you would like to slow, stun, and immobilize yourself while healing the caster. So for you or anyone else to argue that is balanced, I’m here to say No, it is not. Not sure what it is like on Xbox but BG’s on PCNA atm are all Templars and magsorcs. Pretty obvious why IMO.
Are you lining up your burst? The heal on eclipse isn't what you're making it out to be. It's a heal that requires you to take direct damage to occur at 4.3k magicka. You can't use it effectively while kiting (although it still makes kiting easier bc of the root). It helps someone survive pressure sure, but a good burst combo (which nearly every zergling has strayed from bc they see big tool tips) will put a templar down still.
If you're saying the skill does too much, you could make a case, but there are tons of skills that do just as much at that cost and are less situational. It has the potential to do nothing. It's a situational spell, that's very good for its purpose. Again, there are tons of skills like this. People are just having a problem with it bc they're building to play what it's effective at countering (zerglings).
How would you tone it down? You're mentioning 2 skills, cleanse and living dark, that cost 8k to cast.
If you're only attacks are dots and light attacks (zergling) of course you're getting beat. Every class can handle this meta. If youre upset bc the class that's built to handle dots better than the others is effective at handling dots, I'm not sure what to tell you.
Well I mostly main a magdk like I said do lining up my burst basically consists of casting ele drain, degen, consuming trap, and burning embers on the target, hope they don’t all get purged from ritual, and then fossilize/leap combo. Now if they have a bubble on them or me that obviously makes it a little harder. To answer your question, I do know how to line up my burst combos.
Not sure if serious, or trolling...
irstarkey57 wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »Not that smart huh? The point was to weed out people commenting on L2P. I don’t claim to the best at it. I just claim to have some knowledge of the game. That is literally it. Not sure what your problem is.irstarkey57 wrote: »Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Omg @irstarkey57 please just get off the forums. You are on a Nerf-Templar rampage!!!! Bro, you need to L2P.
Is this that "4 year experience magdk" from the other posts?
I play all classes. Flawless Conqueror on ea as a benchmark.
Why do you keep talking about PvE in PvP threads? No relevance.
I was doing 580k runs, chasing PC rank 1 in 2016, so what?
Should be @isaturkey57. There'd be no issue in carving you up lad.
PvE and PvP are unrelated for the most part but alright.irstarkey57 wrote: »irstarkey57 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »@Minno
You once used Swift x3 from what I read, but no longer do so. Well I tested out Protective x3 on a build of:
Mighty Chudan x2
Combat Physician x5 (armor)
Hatchlings Shell x5 (weapons/jewelry)
And while the defense in 5 light is insane (37k Spell Resist/28k Physical), I feel like I am running in mud without Swift.
I had forgotten just how slow and plodding we are; we feel permanent snared. Even Mist Form feels too slow without Swift.
My question for you is how on Earth do you deal with the lack of mobility?
Just use the gap closer. Basically the best one in the game now. To go along with the best spammable, best heals, best mag sustain....etc.
Templars have a good spammable yes, it's also the only spammable that requires manual aim.
Vigor is still a better heal then BoL/HTD because it lets you go offensive while getting healed and it doesn't require a certain weapon to use like rapid regen does. Best sustain? Pretty sure thats still magsorc and magblade. Dark deal and passive 15% to all regen is nothing terrible.
Don't worry, we already packed up his misguided opinion in another thread.
We? Look, if you guys think there is a stronger class in pvp right, you are feel free to leave me to my misguided opinions in saying that I think you are mistaken. Pack my opinions up or do whatever weirdness you want....lol I don’t even know. Guessing Xbox players...
I wasn't the only one that replied to your Magdk vs Templar nonsense on the other post, hence 'we'.
The reason I don't leave you to it is that you're the problem, people like you are the problem - You read some complaints and jump on the bandwagon about how OP Templar is, but what you're actually doing with these misguided posts is getting more fotm chasers excited enough to jump on a class you say you can't handle, thus more complaining will ensue. It's a recursive loop and you're aiding it's continuation.
So you can't handle Templars this patch, big deal; everyone experiences that - You don't need to make stuff up to put that poin across.
I didn’t make one thing up. Where are you getting this from? What did I make up? I also play magplar, and every other class. Depends on which one of my 18 toons I feel like playing that day. I don’t think it is balanced gameplay, in a super strong single target dot meta to have a class be able to not only heal out of them stronger than any other class, but to be able to simply just cleanse them. Yes they have always had a cleanse that is just plain strong as is, but in a meta where degeneration, soul trap, and single target dots run rampant; magplars get a huge indirect buff because they can simply cleanse them. On top of that, the eclipse skill has zero counter play unless you would like to slow, stun, and immobilize yourself while healing the caster. So for you or anyone else to argue that is balanced, I’m here to say No, it is not. Not sure what it is like on Xbox but BG’s on PCNA atm are all Templars and magsorcs. Pretty obvious why IMO.