Templars PvP - Detailed Guide, Suggestions, Advice, etc. - Elsweyr

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BaiterOfZergs wrote: »

Random but was the aoe to overwhelming made to an actual aoe or is it still a single target aoe?

Should be an AOE DOT now so it hits all targets. I do think it only has a cap of 6 since the resource return is tied to the dmg and they capped that at 6.

EtTuBrutus

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

huuuuuuge dilemma. Stamplar in medium or Heavy? I need some suggestions!

a few numbers with bloodspawn as the monster set:

• 7th + BP (5 Heavy): resistance 34k and 31k, EWP 5100

• Fortified + Spriggan (5 med): resistance 38&35, EWP 5500

• spriggan + BP (5 med): resistance 30 & 27, EWP: 5900

• BP + 7th (5 medium): resistance 30 & 27, EWP 6000

Bp 7th medium

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EtTuBrutus wrote: »

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

huuuuuuge dilemma. Stamplar in medium or Heavy? I need some suggestions!

a few numbers with bloodspawn as the monster set:

• 7th + BP (5 Heavy): resistance 34k and 31k, EWP 5100

• Fortified + Spriggan (5 med): resistance 38&35, EWP 5500

• spriggan + BP (5 med): resistance 30 & 27, EWP: 5900

• BP + 7th (5 medium): resistance 30 & 27, EWP 6000

Bp 7th medium

agreed.

EtTuBrutus

Loving living dark. I actually just logged in to try the patch and put bane on instead of barrage and living dark instead of radiant. Been great. Still crafty/ alfiq, bs and protective, lightning /snb.

Jabs is, once again complete shi- vs dodge, expedition, movement in general. Thanks zos.

Im not feeling the protective nerf as much bc of LSD (living super dark), was thinking of trying triune instead.

EtTuBrutus

I might just stay with this build, use bane and entropy (not sure how to fit it on my bar yet) and use lingering health pots with triune.

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EtTuBrutus wrote: »

I might just stay with this build, use bane and entropy (not sure how to fit it on my bar yet) and use lingering health pots with triune.

now you know why I went infused this patch

Though i removed living dark for blazing shield just to try to get it to work. I might swap it back for open world and for "duels" go blazing.

EtTuBrutus

No_Division wrote: »

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

I might just stay with this build, use bane and entropy (not sure how to fit it on my bar yet) and use lingering health pots with triune.

now you know why I went infused this patch

Though i removed living dark for blazing shield just to try to get it to work. I might swap it back for open world and for "duels" go blazing.

Lol i already gave a btb in triune, I'll give that a go first.

EtTuBrutus

@No_Division triune/ lady?

No_Division

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

@No_Division triune/ lady?

i went steed/infused with 2h for more monk flavor. lady is a decent amount of resists, and triune is super efficient amount of stats.

I am still tweaking my build around.

WreckfulAbandon

Running 1 Triune and 2 Protective doesn't feel too different after the nerf. The loss of defile from reverb hurts overall pressure and switching to Toppling hurts mag sustain. A lot of tough choices this patch. And of course now that we are meta we have people coming out of the woodwork to call for nerfs

Kartalin

Still leveling up 2handed, it's a drag. Up to 49 now and then I have to morph the ult but looking forward to trying it.

Melee no-cp concept: Alfiq/Transmutation jewelry + resto/Willpower 2H, Blood Spawn.

What's the consensus on magplar 2hander, Greatsword or Maul? Probably greatsword since I have the LA pen already right?

Mrsinister2

Syiccal wrote: »

I had a moment yesterday, fighting a mag dk I had swift on and 30k resists but even still as a stage 4 vamp I was getting destroyed. I couldnt out heal the fire dmg coming my way. So I swapped swift for spinners and was able to at least kill the guy couple times, still got beat as well the fire dmg is unreal as stage 4 vamp, it's not even worth running defensive sets as does nothing, also strategically place total dark (no update on xbox yet) helps against dks alot

I'm not sure how anyone runs vamp anymore I mostly see people hiding in ball groups misting around.

Kartalin wrote: »

Still leveling up 2handed, it's a drag. Up to 49 now and then I have to morph the ult but looking forward to trying it.

Melee no-cp concept: Alfiq/Transmutation jewelry + resto/Willpower 2H, Blood Spawn.

What's the consensus on magplar 2hander, Greatsword or Maul? Probably greatsword since I have the LA pen already right?

I belive greatsword is the go to since it increases all damage and mauls only increase physical penn

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Mrsinister2 wrote: »

Syiccal wrote: »

I had a moment yesterday, fighting a mag dk I had swift on and 30k resists but even still as a stage 4 vamp I was getting destroyed. I couldnt out heal the fire dmg coming my way. So I swapped swift for spinners and was able to at least kill the guy couple times, still got beat as well the fire dmg is unreal as stage 4 vamp, it's not even worth running defensive sets as does nothing, also strategically place total dark (no update on xbox yet) helps against dks alot

I'm not sure how anyone runs vamp anymore I mostly see people hiding in ball groups misting around.

Kartalin wrote: »

Still leveling up 2handed, it's a drag. Up to 49 now and then I have to morph the ult but looking forward to trying it.

Melee no-cp concept: Alfiq/Transmutation jewelry + resto/Willpower 2H, Blood Spawn.

What's the consensus on magplar 2hander, Greatsword or Maul? Probably greatsword since I have the LA pen already right?

I belive greatsword is the go to since it increases all damage and mauls only increase physical penn

if you read the tooltip, maul only impacts physical based dmg. Though tooltips were known to be wrong and it could boost all pen due to a bug (if someone tests it). Like how old templar players used to use bow backbar on magplar, but never told us why lol.

EtTuBrutus

Give me your input please:

Option 1. Option 2. Option 3.
Magicka 39257 40819 40819
Health 24372 26146 26146
Stamina 12350 13912 13912
Spell dmg 2538 2538 2329
Mag reg 2036 2036 1931
Spell res 26708 23180 25987
Phys res 24015 20487 23294


All other stats are identical

EtTuBrutus

That didn't show up like i had planned

Also, option 3 has the flexibility to go higher spell dmg at the cost of regen via glyphs

Aces-High-82

Maul passive applies only to phys resistance.

No_Division

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

That didn't show up like i had planned

Also, option 3 has the flexibility to go higher spell dmg at the cost of regen via glyphs

option 2, it was the best mix between option 1 and option 3.

Option 1.
Magicka 39257
Health 24372
Stamina 12350
Spell dmg 2538
Mag reg 2036
Spell res 26708
Phys res 24015

Option 2
Magicka 40819
Health 26146
Stamina 13912
Spell dmg 2538
Mag reg 2036
Spell res 23180
Phys res 20487

Option 3.
Magicka 40819
Health 26146
Stamina 13912
Spell dmg 2329
Mag reg 1931
Spell res 25987
Phys res 23294

EtTuBrutus

http://imgur.com/gallery/xDJcYTa

Might be easier to view the options

EtTuBrutus

Option 2 is simply triune. 3 is triune with lady.

Kartalin

Doh, yeah should have remembered that about maul. Shame the penetration doesn't apply to all resistances, but it doesn't matter that much the way it would stack plus using 2h ultimate.

Good thing I already golded and trait-changed my greatsword of willpower lol.

HowlKimchi

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

http://imgur.com/gallery/xDJcYTa

Might be easier to view the options

Are you a jabs magplar? If so you're over sustaining quite a bit. For me 1700 magicka recovery is enough for jabs magplars.

UppGRAYxDD

Anyone's thoughts on Swift set vs Pr

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

http://imgur.com/gallery/xDJcYTa

Might be easier to view the options

Where is this magical land that you can get away with <14k stam? Cause on Xbox 30day cp openworld thats like the lowest amount I ever run. I speak purely on 1vX, but between the stun locks, blocking, increase cost poison abuse, etc that goes on less then 14k stam is a death sentence. Granted its probably my playstyle, but even when I try to run low stam builds I always seem to gas and die to a stun.

Oh, to answer you question Im like 2 & 3.

BaiterOfZergs

No_Division wrote: »

BaiterOfZergs wrote: »

Random but was the aoe to overwhelming made to an actual aoe or is it still a single target aoe?

Should be an AOE DOT now so it hits all targets. I do think it only has a cap of 6 since the resource return is tied to the dmg and they capped that at 6.

Oh it’s better that way then if that’s the case.



Like how old templar players used to use bow backbar on magplar, but never told us why lol.


I only remember back barring it for the mobility passive.

Syiccal

So who here is high elf and who is breton

Syiccal

Can a breton in light armour tell me cost of magplar skills now please, I'm high elf , wanna see if it's worth the change for pvp?

EtTuBrutus

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

Anyone's thoughts on Swift set vs Pr

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

http://imgur.com/gallery/xDJcYTa

Might be easier to view the options

Where is this magical land that you can get away with <14k stam? Cause on Xbox 30day cp openworld thats like the lowest amount I ever run. I speak purely on 1vX, but between the stun locks, blocking, increase cost poison abuse, etc that goes on less then 14k stam is a death sentence. Granted its probably my playstyle, but even when I try to run low stam builds I always seem to gas and die to a stun.

Oh, to answer you question Im like 2 & 3.

I run bs/ high elf/ snb. Plus im "experienced".

EtTuBrutus

HaruKamui wrote: »

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

http://imgur.com/gallery/xDJcYTa

Might be easier to view the options

Are you a jabs magplar? If so you're over sustaining quite a bit. For me 1700 magicka recovery is enough for jabs magplars.

This was right after logging in playing in small group so i actually had atro on for the first 2, and thre 2nd 2 actual had a recovery glyph on. This isn't my final stats. Just getting a feel for it.

EtTuBrutus

Do multiple entropy hots stack?

Syiccal

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

Do multiple entropy hots stack?

Good question, I thought they did bit not entirely sure

Akinos

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

Do multiple entropy hots stack?

yes they do.