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Oceanic Lag now 300-400 ms even with a vpn - was 250-300??

  • Bhaal5
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    Oh the sound of silence
  • MattT1988
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    Still can't do Vet Trials without lagging out every minute. Seriously, selling Oceanic players this game in the state it's in for us is downright criminal. Stop being a bunch of cowards and answer us.
  • Matchimus
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    I have not logged on for 4 days. A liberating experience. I will have a play today but I have to vote first. Also fix a chip in the wall. I recently learnt how to do this. I am very proud of myself.

    Long live King Ping!
  • ozm8ey
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    Doesn't a vpn make your connection worse though?
  • Runefang
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    ozm8ey wrote: »
    Doesn't a vpn make your connection worse though?

    No because instead of my connection going to Singapore then to the San Jose I’m forcing it to go to San Jose directly. I’m gaining 80-90 ping.
  • Bhaal5
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    Did anyone get there ms below 200 this whole weekend? Anyone

    I did, just not in eso
  • Carl-lan
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    I got below 300 for a couple of seconds...

    #Winning
  • Androconium
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    Bhaal5 wrote: »
    Did anyone get there ms below 200 this whole weekend? Anyone

    I did, just not in eso

    Strines were out being stupid.
  • CH77
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    Lo and behold, exactly as I expected, with Elseweyr released the ping rate has risen!!

    Before today's patch my ping was 300-320.

    Now it's 334-350!!!

    How's everyone else AU side?


    WTAF @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GaryA

  • Seri
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    SathuDuwa wrote: »
    If IIRC ESO's EU server does not use Akamai

    False. EU use akamai too.

    https://imgur.com/a/vx1M1Si
    part of this post https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/473035/akamai/p1
    No. You're grabbing IPs from the route to the launcher/patcher CDN network (which is Akamai). An EU server IP as per here/url] is 195.122.154.1. Trace to that and then see what the items along the path are.

    CH77 wrote: »
    Lo and behold, exactly as I expected, with Elseweyr released the ping rate has risen!!

    Before today's patch my ping was 300-320.

    Now it's 334-350!!!

    How's everyone else AU side?
    Mine didn't change noticeably at all. Same horrible route to Singapore resulting in the ~330ms I had before patch.
    EP CP160+ Templar, Sorc, NB
    DC CP160+ Templar, Sorc, DK
  • Bhaal5
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    Wow and all have wasted your money for crappy ping... And zenimax is laughing all the way to the bank
  • CH77
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    Nope. I didn't purchase Elsweyr. Seeing the latency rise has made me make the decision to not buy it.
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    CH77 wrote: »
    Nope. I didn't purchase Elsweyr. Seeing the latency rise has made me make the decision to not buy it.

    Unfortunately me too. My brother and I both cancelled our subs last week. Ah well, had a good run, my favorite game for a very long time but it cant deliver the service anymore. Hopefully I’ll be back proper one day
  • Bhaal5
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    CH77 wrote: »
    Nope. I didn't purchase Elsweyr. Seeing the latency rise has made me make the decision to not buy it.

    Ueah there is zero reason for latency to rise in the way it does... Plenty of other mmos that can hamdle updates/content and large number of people, even large numbers in pvp aswell without ms going through the roof (though those options are on PC).

    And its the real reason there is zero large oceanic communities left.
    Edited by Bhaal5 on May 21, 2019 10:43PM
  • ozm8ey
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    Runefang wrote: »
    ozm8ey wrote: »
    Doesn't a vpn make your connection worse though?

    No because instead of my connection going to Singapore then to the San Jose I’m forcing it to go to San Jose directly. I’m gaining 80-90 ping.

    Pretty sure thats a false ping while using a vpn and in reality your ping is actually much worse using a vpn then when you're not
  • Coggo
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    Melbourne saw lots of billboards and posters on the side of buses/trams in the run up to Morrowind and Summerset. The absence of an equally ubiquitous advertising campaign for Elswhyr and ZOS' lack of engagement with this thread is pretty suggestive of how far down Zenimax's to-do-list Australia ESO players are.
  • LadyLethalla
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    I was tempted to try VMA with a necro but this thread and its lack of official response makes me think I shouldn't bother. Guess I'll just do the Elsewyr quests/storyline and go back to Borderlands.
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    Melbourne Australia - the land of Potato Internet.WTB ESO OCEANIC SERVER
  • Bhaal5
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    Still no answer yet still accepting australian dollars :'(
  • DoobZ69
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    Logged on last week to see if the new DLC was worth buying. Not even by a long shot.
  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    Aussies you do understand if your Internet providers are crap, the only thing ZOS can do it put a server there.

    The Oceanic region is famous for issues because the cables are getting damaged all the time and your providers are sub par.

    Use a trace hop application and ping the server. See how the signal travels across the whole planet until it goes to the server.
    That's not ZOS problem but your ISPs.
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    Akaimai is ZOS's responsibility and Oceanics problem. The issue is less than satisfactory ping (which we know we have to tolerate) getting worse (which we shouldnt have to tolerate)
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    Aussies you do understand if your Internet providers are crap, the only thing ZOS can do it put a server there.

    The Oceanic region is famous for issues because the cables are getting damaged all the time and your providers are sub par.

    Use a trace hop application and ping the server. See how the signal travels across the whole planet until it goes to the server.
    That's not ZOS problem but your ISPs.

    They could improve things. But they dont.
  • Bhaal5
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    Aussies you do understand if your Internet providers are crap, the only thing ZOS can do it put a server there.

    The Oceanic region is famous for issues because the cables are getting damaged all the time and your providers are sub par.

    Use a trace hop application and ping the server. See how the signal travels across the whole planet until it goes to the server.
    That's not ZOS problem but your ISPs.

    Ok, answer me this
    My aussie net is on average 100 mb down and 49 up, fttp, same isp.

    Zos, i can average anywhere between 400-700 ms
    YET
    Gw2 in right down to 180-220?

    Servers are similar distance and in the same country. I uavent moved house.. So same here.

    Only real difference is the game i choose? An to say, gw2 has ALOT more sea and oxc players than eso does so you can say its population.. If anyrhing that's working against arenanet.

    So id say its a ZOS issue, not so much your isp
  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    Bhaal5 wrote: »
    Aussies you do understand if your Internet providers are crap, the only thing ZOS can do it put a server there.

    The Oceanic region is famous for issues because the cables are getting damaged all the time and your providers are sub par.

    Use a trace hop application and ping the server. See how the signal travels across the whole planet until it goes to the server.
    That's not ZOS problem but your ISPs.

    Ok, answer me this
    My aussie net is on average 100 mb down and 49 up, fttp, same isp.

    Zos, i can average anywhere between 400-700 ms
    YET
    Gw2 in right down to 180-220?

    Servers are similar distance and in the same country. I uavent moved house.. So same here.

    Only real difference is the game i choose? An to say, gw2 has ALOT more sea and oxc players than eso does so you can say its population.. If anyrhing that's working against arenanet.

    So id say its a ZOS issue, not so much your isp

    Did you ping ZOS server with a standard application or with the ingame meter?
    Reason is ZOS has stated numerous times that the ingame latency counter value, is doubled because it calculates the round trip of the data. Not the one one way trip all other programs (and games like GW2) count. So you should half the ping you see in ESO before you complain about lag.
  • Rylisin
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    I'm sorry if I'm jumping the gun here @p_tsakirisb16_ESO , but if you had taken some time to read the majority of this thread you'd know we're not complaining about our ISPs? And I believe a few people have done server pings to begin with and showing how it hit the fan once it reached the Akamai servers. Many of us play other MMO's and have absolutely none of the issues we are having with this game. I moved onto FFXIV and my connection to NA servers is as smooth as butter and I'm able to dabble freely in EX and savage content with some quick thinking once I've learned mechanics and boss timing.

    That is something I am unable to do in ESO - I can barely talk to NPCs it's that bad. I can live with 250 ping and I've accepted the fact due to my location in Middle Earth that I will always have some form of lag in online games. But 360-400-500+ consonantly? No. This lag-fest issue rests squarely on ZOS / Akamai. Gameplay was tolerable to a certain extent before Murkmire dropped but the past few months have been nigh unplayable for most of the region.

    The fact ZOS has continued to stick their head in the crown-store-ground and ignore us tells us something is up, but they as a company are too busy taking money off people to bother providing us with the playable experience we used to have. I may have given up on this poop-fest long ago but it's not fair to the people who still love this game and want to play with their friends / guild community to put up with this garbage.

    ZOS could try to fix it. Or at least give an official response to what is happening so the player-base of this region is aware of what is happening in regards to why we've seen such dramatic increases. I'm pretty sure every single oceanic player here who's commented would be happier at this point if ZOS just communicated with us instead of going with the "Oceanic announcement, lol never getting a server kk, bye!!!!" they pulled a few months ago and then pretending that we don't exist.
    Edited by Rylisin on May 22, 2019 9:52AM
    PC | NA - NZ Player. Played since mid 2016, CP 1380+ An autistic, tired, coffee driven Kiwi. I draw a lot of fantasy and things.Cirion Adaine - Warden / Crafter | - Niryahil Adaine - NB healer - Ciara Ruhaerin - Nightblade something something, and a few alts for good measure.
  • m2rc
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    ZOS has to fix this quick. They just can't throw Oceanic players under the bus.
  • tair
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    Moving back to NZ soon. This news makes me very sad.. Zos plz
  • Bhaal5
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    Bhaal5 wrote: »
    Aussies you do understand if your Internet providers are crap, the only thing ZOS can do it put a server there.

    The Oceanic region is famous for issues because the cables are getting damaged all the time and your providers are sub par.

    Use a trace hop application and ping the server. See how the signal travels across the whole planet until it goes to the server.
    That's not ZOS problem but your ISPs.

    Ok, answer me this
    My aussie net is on average 100 mb down and 49 up, fttp, same isp.

    Zos, i can average anywhere between 400-700 ms
    YET
    Gw2 in right down to 180-220?

    Servers are similar distance and in the same country. I uavent moved house.. So same here.

    Only real difference is the game i choose? An to say, gw2 has ALOT more sea and oxc players than eso does so you can say its population.. If anyrhing that's working against arenanet.

    So id say its a ZOS issue, not so much your isp

    Did you ping ZOS server with a standard application or with the ingame meter?
    Reason is ZOS has stated numerous times that the ingame latency counter value, is doubled because it calculates the round trip of the data. Not the one one way trip all other programs (and games like GW2) count. So you should half the ping you see in ESO before you complain about lag.

    Tested via application, not just in game.

    -Gw2 all my skills work when i press them, eso takes a good 4-5 secs
    -Gw2 can do a full raids without one hiccup, eso im dc'd at first mob (mol, aa, helra)
    -Gw2 i can do pvp without and screenfreezes, dcs and skills work on time, eso is full of screen stuttering and lag spikes in battlegrounds.
    -Gw2 i can wvw with full maps and be in a zerg of 50+ vsing the same size at reset and ms will rise to 220 and may spike to 240... Yet in eso/cyrodiil if i come across another group of 10 i'll be back at a loading screen or DC'd
    -Gw2 i can be in Loins arch with a full map with zero to minimum fps drop yet (95 down to 75) compared too any trade hub with 10-15 people in eso is again major fps stuttering or load screens (this can be also said with overland metas or guild missions, which eso does not have style of content.

    Again how can my isp favor gw2 to eso? Similar distance?
  • Bhaal5
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    So hows are those load screens and dc's going? Enjoying ping over 300 like nothings the matter?
  • m2rc
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    Bhaal5 wrote: »
    So hows are those load screens and dc's going? Enjoying ping over 300 like nothings the matter?

    My ping went down from 400-700 to 275-330. Back to my normal numbers. Maybe the ping was due to the influx of players logging on during the first few days?
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