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Oceanic Lag now 300-400 ms even with a vpn - was 250-300??

  • Androconium
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    m2rc wrote: »
    Bhaal5 wrote: »
    So hows are those load screens and dc's going? Enjoying ping over 300 like nothings the matter?

    My ping went down from 400-700 to 275-330. Back to my normal numbers. Maybe the ping was due to the influx of players logging on during the first few days?

    I'm not even playing.
  • Banana
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    Are the disconnects never get old
  • jcm2606
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    Might as well play a drinking game while we're here. Shot for each page that goes without a proper official Zenimax comment.
  • Audrena
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    CH77 wrote: »
    Nope. I didn't purchase Elsweyr. Seeing the latency rise has made me make the decision to not buy it.

    I haven't either, and I feel sad about that. I've hovered over the "buy" button so many times but I just can't do it. ZOS is not going to fix this, that much is clear. So I should just cut my losses, cancel my sub and call it done. As I found out with Summerset, any meaningful content is near-unplayable with this level of latency, and these open-world dragons just sound to me like more opportunities for me to get one-shot killed by attacks I don't see until after I'm dead.
    ZOS has stated numerous times that the ingame latency counter value, is doubled because it calculates the round trip of the data. Not the one one way trip all other programs (and games like GW2) count. So you should half the ping you see in ESO before you complain about lag.

    That's simply not correct. Back before the DDOS attack that started them using the rubbish Akamai "service" (instead of just mitigating them if and when they happen), I would routinely see the in-game latency meter telling me I was at 200-210ms. Now, if that was double the real value, that would mean the ping time from me in Melbourne to the server in Austin Texas was 100-105ms.

    That ping is impossible under the basic laws of physics, where data cannot travel faster than the speed of light.

    The in-game meter is showing latency to the server, one-way. That is easily verifiable using basic network tools.

    Edited by Audrena on May 26, 2019 2:49PM
  • gronoxvx
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    Coggo wrote: »
    Melbourne saw lots of billboards and posters on the side of buses/trams in the run up to Morrowind and Summerset. The absence of an equally ubiquitous advertising campaign for Elswhyr and ZOS' lack of engagement with this thread is pretty suggestive of how far down Zenimax's to-do-list Australia ESO players are.

    Actually spotted a billboard at cheltenham station this evening.

    Should have a disclaimer for the shite connections we get.
    Edited by gronoxvx on May 27, 2019 11:31AM
  • Bhaal5
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    gronoxvx wrote: »
    Coggo wrote: »
    Melbourne saw lots of billboards and posters on the side of buses/trams in the run up to Morrowind and Summerset. The absence of an equally ubiquitous advertising campaign for Elswhyr and ZOS' lack of engagement with this thread is pretty suggestive of how far down Zenimax's to-do-list Australia ESO players are.

    Actually spotted a billboard at cheltenham station this evening.

    Should have a disclaimer for the shite connections we get.

    Why, when you can "bait" advertise... Cheaper for them since they can get away with it.
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    a disclaimer saying you need 2 SUBSCRIPTION and still get rubbish ping compare to any other mmo
  • Banana
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    Has anyone tried a 5G connection from Australia? Did it make any difference?
  • LiraTaurwen
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    ZoS why don't you create an oceanic mega-server? This way everybody wins, better ping for oceanic players, less server load on EU and Na servers... It would be a great move to solve some of the issues and would show gratitude for your players, wjo love your game so much they are willing to pay for to subs and still have crap ping.
  • Androconium
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    This was the response to the complaint about the game itself.
    The irony is, of course, that the game play of ESO is built around the concept of having your soul destroyed.

    There's some guidance here, should you choose to follow it.
    See if Alcast has a build for it first...


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    Edited by Androconium on May 27, 2019 10:09PM
  • Bhaal5
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    Free from defects

    :D:D:D
  • Androconium
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    does not do what the business said it would, or what you asked for, and cannot easily be fixed.
  • ArvenAldmeri
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    I am from Europe yet this past few days I have been getting 300 ping constantly, sometimes spiking up to 2000+ and more, making me unable to loot anything, talk to npc, fight etc.
    Magicka sorcerer from start until the end. Always. Through the good times and the bad, even now when its probably saddest PvE dps it has ever been.
    Even as an owner of one radiant apex mounts I am against radiant apex mounts and anything thats not obtainable by direct purchase.
  • Bhaal5
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    I am from Europe yet this past few days I have been getting 300 ping constantly, sometimes spiking up to 2000+ and more, making me unable to loot anything, talk to npc, fight etc.

    now you know what everyday since launch has been like for aussie and nz players
  • Heromofo
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    ZOS of all the laggy nonsense none is worse than pvp. ZOS pvp is unplayable from here please please we need some serious love this side of the world.

    PvP looks insanely fun but the lag is just messed up. Attacking air because they have already moved or not knowing your already dead for 8 seconds. People blinking around is not cool.

    Got my first taste of pvp this week and it looks insanely fun but i can't play it atm and that really hurts.

    I spend alot of money on eso and i own all dlcs and sub to support the game just not feeling the love for ue Oceanic players. :(
  • Heromofo
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    Banana wrote: »
    Has anyone tried a 5G connection from Australia? Did it make any difference?

    We don't have 5g bro well we have Telstra trying to bring it in but they are pricks and charge alot more than any other. It will still be awhile before we get to see proper 5g all around. Still only have 1 bar where ever i go north of Perth under Optus on 4g.

    Our net all around seriously blows and since Liberals just got back in expecting to see our NBN get more cuts...
  • NoMoreChillies
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    Aussies you do understand if your Internet providers are crap, the only thing ZOS can do it put a server there.

    The Oceanic region is famous for issues because the cables are getting damaged all the time and your providers are sub par.

    Use a trace hop application and ping the server. See how the signal travels across the whole planet until it goes to the server.
    That's not ZOS problem but your ISPs.

    This doood didnt read the thread. Cant really blame him tho, 26 pages ignored by ZOS
    Insulting people on the internet is cowardly.
  • jcm2606
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    ZoS why don't you create an oceanic mega-server? This way everybody wins, better ping for oceanic players, less server load on EU and Na servers... It would be a great move to solve some of the issues and would show gratitude for your players, wjo love your game so much they are willing to pay for to subs and still have crap ping.

    The problem isn't the server location, it's the path our traffic is taking to the server. Back when I first started playing ESO, late June of 2016, my ping was legit 210-220, sometimes dipping to 180-190. Ever since then, it has slowly risen, to the point where it's double, sometimes triple that, if I don't use a VPN.

    If that wasn't evidence enough, when I use a VPN that's designed to optimise the path my traffic takes to its destination, my ping goes from 350-500 to 260-300, which is what it was at just one year ago.

    They don't need to open an Oceanic server, they need to give Akamai a right kick up the ass, since it has been shown time and time again that Akamai is squarely to blame for this.
  • Bhaal5
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    Aussies you do understand if your Internet providers are crap, the only thing ZOS can do it put a server there.

    The Oceanic region is famous for issues because the cables are getting damaged all the time and your providers are sub par.

    Use a trace hop application and ping the server. See how the signal travels across the whole planet until it goes to the server.
    That's not ZOS problem but your ISPs.

    This doood didnt read the thread. Cant really blame him tho, 26 pages ignored by ZOS

    Just another fanboy that zos cant do no wrong.... They still havent answered my question to him. I can get atleast 200-250 better than eso (eg 180-220 in a more populated gw2/220-230 in swtor/eve is 200-220 where as good ol eso sits around the 400-500 mark)
  • Goregrinder
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    Banana wrote: »
    Has anyone tried a 5G connection from Australia? Did it make any difference?

    What is the 5G connection going to do to change the route packets go from an oceanic PC to the megaserver and back?
  • Androconium
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    Banana wrote: »
    Has anyone tried a 5G connection from Australia? Did it make any difference?

    What is the 5G connection going to do to change the route packets go from an oceanic PC to the megaserver and back?

    Doesn't matter. They still haven't made the connector plugs for our tin-can and string internet.

    The real problem as I see it, is politics. So with the re-election of the conservative co-allition, the current government is focused on reducing taxation. So there won't be more funding available for this stuff.
  • Shady_Knights
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    The ANZ marketing team seems to have plenty of $$ to spend to advertise the game.



    Better investment would be to provide a service that doesn't add on huge amounts of latency onto the connection, or to at the minimum, pay some techs to at least validate the issue and acknowledge it.

  • Goregrinder
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    Banana wrote: »
    Has anyone tried a 5G connection from Australia? Did it make any difference?

    What is the 5G connection going to do to change the route packets go from an oceanic PC to the megaserver and back?

    Doesn't matter. They still haven't made the connector plugs for our tin-can and string internet.

    The real problem as I see it, is politics. So with the re-election of the conservative co-allition, the current government is focused on reducing taxation. So there won't be more funding available for this stuff.

    Damn, I was hoping to find a sheila to marry and move to Australia eventually...I guess that plan is out of the question now.
  • MrGarlic
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    The ANZ marketing team seems to have plenty of $$ to spend to advertise the game.



    Better investment would be to provide a service that doesn't add on huge amounts of latency onto the connection, or to at the minimum, pay some techs to at least validate the issue and acknowledge it.

    Awesome bus.

    It will still get stuck in traffic and always run late, ironically. :)
    'Sharp Arrows'Mr.Garlic
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  • Rylisin
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    Oceanic Players: ZoS, please fix the issues being caused by Akamai????
    Zos:
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    ZoS: HeReS a BuS
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  • Bhaal5
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    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.facebook.com/livetrafficnsw/posts/882292328509142&ved=2ahUKEwiAxKe5nsLiAhWy_XMBHWAGAtUQFjACegQIBRAG&usg=AOvVaw0U6vTIl1JCM7A7nBwN4ez3

    Well there is it is, broken down and holding up other aussies in their prime time. Nothing new there.

    Atleast the bus has more content inside of it the elsweyr does
  • Androconium
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    <snip>
    Damn, I was hoping to find a sheila to marry and move to Australia eventually...I guess that plan is out of the question now.

    Our official immigration policy is "*** off, we're full"" and we don't need more people here trying to access ESO.



  • Heromofo
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    The ANZ marketing team seems to have plenty of $$ to spend to advertise the game.



    Better investment would be to provide a service that doesn't add on huge amounts of latency onto the connection, or to at the minimum, pay some techs to at least validate the issue and acknowledge it.

    Make sure to leave a comment on that post regarding the issue. To atleast warn lads looking at the advertising post. Not having a server this side is really not funny.
  • Bhaal5
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    Heromofo wrote: »
    The ANZ marketing team seems to have plenty of $$ to spend to advertise the game.



    Better investment would be to provide a service that doesn't add on huge amounts of latency onto the connection, or to at the minimum, pay some techs to at least validate the issue and acknowledge it.

    Make sure to leave a comment on that post regarding the issue. To atleast warn lads looking at the advertising post. Not having a server this side is really not funny.

    They dont need a server here... Game gw2 i get between 180 and 220 ms and the distance is very similar... They just need to code their game better and know who to run a server properly
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    I’m upgrading to telstra NBN on Monday, from what i believe is cable (coaxial cable connecting modem to wall). I really hope it helps, otherwise... might be time to call it
  • Donny_Vito
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    Eventually posting on this thread will be considered "necroing" as it's been around so long.
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