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Oceanic Lag now 300-400 ms even with a vpn - was 250-300??

StackonClown
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Hi,

In in Australia - and my lag is way worse than a few months ago (took a break) - anyone else face this also?
I wonder if its local or a global issue ?
  • Androconium
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    I went from about 250 to 327. Despite having FTTH, my ISP showed in a different suburb everytime I logged in.
    So It's ISPs fiddling with the performance.

    NBNco are blaming online gaming for their lack of infrastructure investment. They now openly talk about Evening congestion.
    I blame cookies, myself.

    I'm going to SkyMuster next week. They openly say that it has a finite capacity. Yet, they are still taking on new customers.

    This is all Mr 16%'s fault for the partial sale of Telstra 20 years ago.
    Edited by Androconium on October 7, 2018 12:22AM
    bye now.


  • Davor
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    Must be an Australia lag. After all you said "In in". :p
  • GlorphNoldorin
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    As far as I am concerned, over several years, latency has gone from 290 to mid high 300's due to degradation of the game...ie all the extra crap they put in it and lack of attention to severs.

    About 6 months ago I got nbn which did absolutely nothing for performance, I would say dsl was better.

    Recently I changed to a small isp that focuses on gaming and that made somewhat of a difference but that combined with using mudfish has seen me with ping regularly under 300.

    It still seems sluggish and unresponsive but the ping always looks good now.

    So I have to use a vpn and have 50mb down/25mb up speed to get the same latency I had on dsl 3 years ago.

    Along with all the *** the devs pull with regard to 'balance' I am waiting for Ashes or something that seems like it will work and hopefully have an oceanic server.
  • phairdon
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    250 - 350 from New Zealand.
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  • swaggasm
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    Like @GlorphNoldorin has said https://mudfish.net/ seems to help with getting consistently lower latency, as well as being really cheap $3 for 18gb of data that lasts for a really long time.

    I think NBN's infrastructure has changed in the last few months or so. About a month ago I used to get consistently lower latency without a vpn like 220-280~ range this last month my default latency without a vpn is 370-450~. Using mudfish brings it down to what it used to be.
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  • StackonClown
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    Im with TPG and also have been using mudfish for nearly a year - but something must have happened over the last few months. I was previously consistently getting 250-290 ms with this combo, now the absolute minimum is ~300 and it fluctuates wildly up to 600ms at times... I wonder what went wrong :((

    At this rate with this lag, and the sorc nerfs, and lots of other stuff that was never fixed I may be packing bags soon sadly...
  • Gargath
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    A global issue definitely :D .
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  • StackonClown
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    yes - its happens globally in oceania
    Edited by StackonClown on October 7, 2018 11:47AM
  • DanteYoda
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    317- 600- 999+ here Bris Aus

    Before summerset it was a steady 250.. permanently.
  • StackonClown
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    ^^ Exactly!! once again zenny has rooted this
  • Kadoin
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    Banana wrote: »
    A couple years ago mine was a constant 300. Now a variable 330 +. The lonely megaserver is a *** idea. Unless everyone lives near it.

    It's a bad idea even if you live near it from what I've heard. I honestly think the worsening lag is linked to the client. It seems like the client has a far lower threshold before kicking or stopping traffic than ever before.
  • Tan9oSuccka
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    I ran a Vet dungeon with three Aussies the other day.

    Man, that was painful. The trashpacks were super confused. LOL

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  • Troneon
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    They can't even get EU Servers into a good state and I am from UK. In any other game I get 1-10 pings.....60-90 in ESO sometimes spikes of 100-150+...You guys are SOL. Worse in PVP.

    On US servers in other games I get max 80-120 pings...usually around 60-70.

    Edited by Troneon on October 7, 2018 7:02PM
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  • Androconium
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    swaggasm wrote: »
    Like @GlorphNoldorin has said https://mudfish.net/ seems to help with getting consistently lower latency, as well as being really cheap $3 for 18gb of data that lasts for a really long time.

    I think NBN's infrastructure has changed in the last few months or so. About a month ago I used to get consistently lower latency without a vpn like 220-280~ range this last month my default latency without a vpn is 370-450~. Using mudfish brings it down to what it used to be.

    I expect that they are throttling some destinations to cover the lack of investment.
    I went from 100Mbps back to 25 twelve months ago and didn't see a big performance drop.

    I think a letter of denial is required from the relevant Minister.
    bye now.


  • SirDopey
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    Yes! Actually looking to see if something like this had been posted.

    Something has definitely happened within the last month or so. Use to consistently get 240 - 270ms in game (180 - 210 doing a tracert in cmd, the client pretty consistently adds 30ms which is probably pc performance related).

    Currently in game I very rarely see it dip below 280 and most the time its above 300, tracert has also gone up in line with these numbers.

    I have an ASUS modem with WTFast built into it, when I switch this on it brings my latency down to around 230/240 BUT the game kicks me back to login screen everytime I change zones which isn't practical.

    I'm with Leaptel NBN 100mbs connection (I believe they just piggyback off telstra)
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  • swaggasm
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    I expect that they are throttling some destinations to cover the lack of investment.
    I went from 100Mbps back to 25 twelve months ago and didn't see a big performance drop.

    I think a letter of denial is required from the relevant Minister.

    Wouldn't surprise me if majority of ISP's are over selling bandwidth then throttling users to make a profit. I'm still annoyed that I missed getting FTTP by one suburb :( FTTN sucks.
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  • MrGarlic
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    It's shocking today.

    PC/NA and the PTS are unplayable, with massive latency in the seconds, whereas PC/EU is fine.
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  • Androconium
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    swaggasm wrote: »
    Wouldn't surprise me if majority of ISP's are over selling bandwidth then throttling users to make a profit. I'm still annoyed that I missed getting FTTP by one suburb :( FTTN sucks.

    I had FTTH at my last house in Gunghalin, one of the original NBN suburbs + 100Mbps link.
    It made no difference.

    Perhaps if we had a got the Great Big Carbon tax, then the money would have been there to pay for the promises.

    As it is, my new home is less than 600 km from either Sydney or Melbourne, yet there isn't even any legacy copper system to support ADSL; or just a regular phone.

    Only Telstra provide mobile coverage here and Satellite is a compromised "NBN" solution. More like "NNN".

    As ever, the Big End Of Town in Australia wants to take the profits, but expects the government to commit taxpayers to footing the investment bills.

    bye now.


  • Bhaal5
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    swaggasm wrote: »

    I expect that they are throttling some destinations to cover the lack of investment.
    I went from 100Mbps back to 25 twelve months ago and didn't see a big performance drop.

    I think a letter of denial is required from the relevant Minister.

    Wouldn't surprise me if majority of ISP's are over selling bandwidth then throttling users to make a profit. I'm still annoyed that I missed getting FTTP by one suburb :( FTTN sucks.

    Try missing out by one block (4 houses away) :'(
  • LadyLethalla
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    My NBN connection date has been delayed 2 years so far, now expected early to mid 2020 - and yet houses 1km either side of me have it already. The only good thing I read recently about the delay is that they have upgraded my area to FTTK instead of using existing Foxtel cabling. And I live in eastern suburbs Melbourne - not even outer east. Scared to check it now in case they have downgraded it again.

    But yeah... for the nonce I'm pretty much limited to questing, writs and the occasional dungeon. Maybe a little PVP, but not in the evenings. If I'm feeling particularly masochistic I might venture into VMA... 486 soul gems later I might be lucky if I have some hair left.

    So... I'm trying to wean myself off with SP games.
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  • MakoFore
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    same boat (or is that island) here as @GlorphNoldorin and @swaggasm - and daresay every other aussie. basically paying for what was standard a few years ago. something definitely going on atm though- cant connect at all- and error 200s every time i can
    Edited by MakoFore on October 10, 2018 3:22AM
  • Elong
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    Will add to the people above that my ping from NZ has increased from 250 to 300-320 over 4 years of this game.
  • whatmeta
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    Mainly playing PVP in ESO nowadays. The lag has gotten worse since last week. It wasnt just me, zone chat has been complaining about the same.

    This is the last straw for me Zeni, my characters constantly get nerfed, if you cannot fix the lag in Cyro then its time for me to unsub.

    Thanks for the laughs!
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  • jcm2606
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    Internet speed really doesn't matter for online gaming, as the packets sent are a few dozen bytes at the most. So going from 100Mbps down to 25, 15, or hell, even 5 Mbps, it makes sense you generally wouldn't see ping change much, as the packets sent are way under even 1KB (1Mbps = 125KB/s).

    What matters for online gaming is connection stability, routing, and the time it takes for a packet to reach its destination. I'm on a 5Mbps connection in my area, and usually sit around 250-300 ping, but Telstra has been doing work on the lines in my area (NBNCo is getting ready to start NBN installation, and so are messing about in the pits, which has affected the stability of my connection, and to top it off it has been raining a lot the past week or so, which has made stability that much worse), and so my ping has been jumping all over the place, with today being by far the worst over the past week, with ping being a steady 999+, spiking to 5000-10000 while running dungeons.
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