Oceanic Lag now 300-400 ms even with a vpn - was 250-300??

James-Wayne · May 2019

In Perth here mine has now hit 450... can we change the title slightly?

Wildberryjack · May 2019

I live in the U.S. but play on both servers. A friend in England played so I made characters on the EU server too. My latency wasn't too bad until their server update and now it's often holding in the red and unplayable whereas before it would spike high but come back down. I don't know what changed but I have to say it wasn't for the better.

Audrena · June 2019

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

I really hope it helps, otherwise... might be time to call it

It won't help.

The only fix for the problem is ZOS removing Akamai's DDOS scrubber from the path to the server, and their long silence says that they have no intention of doing that.

I really think that's me done with this game at this point. I'm not paying for another expansion on PC and PS4 - well over $120, along with $420 per year for ESO Plus for both of them - when the company clearly has no interest in returning the game's network performance to what it used to be a couple of years ago. Which was still worse than most other US games at the time, but now... now, it's the worst MMO by far for network quality.. this, from one of the most cashed-up publishers on the planet. It's shameful.

Bhaal5 · June 2019

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

I’m upgrading to telstra NBN on Monday, from what i believe is cable (coaxial cable connecting modem to wall). I really hope it helps, otherwise... might be time to call it

Sorry to say mate, ive got fttp get on average 100mb down and 50 mb up. And the ms sits around 400-500.. Its not our net (funny enough) its how zenimax handles the information from cleint to server... Eso is rubbish at it.. People only put up with it because of a 'name' really not alot to stick around for..
Its a dead community at our prime time on all platforms (compared to other mmos).

Shady_Knights · June 2019

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

I’m upgrading to telstra NBN on Monday, from what i believe is cable (coaxial cable connecting modem to wall). I really hope it helps, otherwise... might be time to call it

If your existing connection is already to the wall (no wi-fi) and your ISP is already Telstra, then I would expect little difference as the fault that we are complaining about is due to the following:

1. Poor routing from Oceania to Texas.

2. Latency added by third party Akamai - also why point 1 exists.

3. Bloat added by ESO over time. Server side latency has increased over time.

All three things combine to add quite a significant overhead to the latency issue, and those far away from the servers are the ones that notice it most.

Changing the type of connection on your side, assuming it was reasonable to begin with will likely have little (any) impact to the three points above.

I'd be interested in your response back though after your new connection has settled in.

Bobby_V_Rockit · June 2019

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

I’m upgrading to telstra NBN on Monday, from what i believe is cable (coaxial cable connecting modem to wall). I really hope it helps, otherwise... might be time to call it

Sorry to say mate, ive got fttp get on average 100mb down and 50 mb up. And the ms sits around 400-500.. Its not our net (funny enough) its how zenimax handles the information from cleint to server... Eso is rubbish at it.. People only put up with it because of a 'name' really not alot to stick around for..
Its a dead community at our prime time on all platforms (compared to other mmos).

I get on average 10mb down and 1mb up...

gronoxvx · June 2019

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

I’m upgrading to telstra NBN on Monday, from what i believe is cable (coaxial cable connecting modem to wall). I really hope it helps, otherwise... might be time to call it

Sorry to say mate, ive got fttp get on average 100mb down and 50 mb up. And the ms sits around 400-500.. Its not our net (funny enough) its how zenimax handles the information from cleint to server... Eso is rubbish at it.. People only put up with it because of a 'name' really not alot to stick around for..
Its a dead community at our prime time on all platforms (compared to other mmos).

I get on average 10mb down and 1mb up...

You will see a huge difference. I went from 5mb a sec download to cable (45mb/s) and it was mindblowing. But it will want you craving more when you still experience lag spikes. Haha

Bhaal5 · June 2019

gronoxvx wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

I’m upgrading to telstra NBN on Monday, from what i believe is cable (coaxial cable connecting modem to wall). I really hope it helps, otherwise... might be time to call it

Sorry to say mate, ive got fttp get on average 100mb down and 50 mb up. And the ms sits around 400-500.. Its not our net (funny enough) its how zenimax handles the information from cleint to server... Eso is rubbish at it.. People only put up with it because of a 'name' really not alot to stick around for..
Its a dead community at our prime time on all platforms (compared to other mmos).

I get on average 10mb down and 1mb up...

You will see a huge difference. I went from 5mb a sec download to cable (45mb/s) and it was mindblowing. But it will want you craving more when you still experience lag spikes. Haha

I only saw a difference in other games... Eso still ran like garbage

Androconium · June 2019

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

I’m upgrading to telstra NBN on Monday, from what i believe is cable (coaxial cable connecting modem to wall). I really hope it helps, otherwise... might be time to call it

Sorry to say mate, ive got fttp get on average 100mb down and 50 mb up. And the ms sits around 400-500.. Its not our net (funny enough) its how zenimax handles the information from cleint to server... Eso is rubbish at it.. People only put up with it because of a 'name' really not alot to stick around for..
Its a dead community at our prime time on all platforms (compared to other mmos).

I get on average 10mb down and 1mb up...

I had "up to 100Mbps NBN plan" on FTTHouse link 12 months ago in ACT.
That had no obvious effect on ESO gameplay; it may as well have been 256k dialup.

Heromofo · June 2019

James-Wayne wrote: »

In Perth here mine has now hit 450... can we change the title slightly?

Yay fellow Perth Boy! I think we are among the worse side of it. Mind you i just want to do pvp it looks insanely fun but its just not possible currently. I can work around it in vets been super careful. But pvp can have ya smacking air or watching people blink around.

Rylisin · June 2019

Amazing how fast ZOS can respond to EU server dying threads yet we can't get a simple acknowledgment or explanation of sorts for so many months on end about our game experience being horrid.

Bhaal5 · June 2019

Enjoy the increase ping with this next chapter... What ever they called it

xnoop · June 2019

Hey guys, I've built a custom VPN solution for the OC > NA issues. There are around 10 Aussies on it so far and its proving to be stable. Shoot me a message on Discord xnoop#7803 if you are able to help test it.

skiidzman · June 2019

StackonClown wrote: »

Hi,

In in Australia - and my lag is way worse than a few months ago (took a break) - anyone else face this also?
I wonder if its local or a global issue ?

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Bhaal5 · June 2019

xnoop wrote: »

Hey guys, I've built a custom VPN solution for the OC > NA issues. There are around 10 Aussies on it so far and its proving to be stable. Shoot me a message on Discord xnoop#7803 if you are able to help test it.

Can you get below 200 ms?

Sylvermynx · June 2019

The sad thing is that the IT folks at ZOS apparently have no clue how to mitigate ddos attacks themselves - which is why they are paying akamai mega--bucks to do a job they are probably getting paid to do themselves.

I'm just happy to have better connect now, so I can actually bar swap.

Y'know, if there was really an OCE server, I'd play on it. When I played wow, I had a couple of accounts on the Aussie servers. It was nice - I could hook up with friends I have there, and if they weren't on due to the time dif, I could play in nearly complete quiet. It was a good relief from the family/friend's guilds frenetic race around instances.

Bhaal5 · June 2019

So hows the ping going?

TumlinTheJolly · June 2019

Still unplayable without a VPN. Anybody from Aus/NZ who is new to the game will just quit due to ping, unless this is fixed. New players don't want to have to pay for a VPN, as well as the game.

Matchimus · June 2019

I bought a digital piano on the weekend. So far, no lag (yes, that was passive aggressive).

Oh, and I cancelled my subscription the week before (and thankfully didn't buy new chapter). I have still spent $400-$450 on this game the past 6 mths and I am OK with that because I got value from it.

However I have made the decision that such future monetary outlays would be better invested in a potentially lifelong activity where I anticipate there will be better intrinsic rewards than here, and I feel the piano is actually talking to me.

Karmanorway · June 2019

StackonClown wrote: »

Hi,

In in Australia - and my lag is way worse than a few months ago (took a break) - anyone else face this also?
I wonder if its local or a global issue ?

Im in Norway, i get 999+ every 5 secs... In BGs, dont want to mention cyrodiil.. Makes me wanna cry

gronoxvx · June 2019

Melbourne, Australia

Xbox - na, remembered that i pre-ordered elsweyr (or else i would have cancelled it). Loaded in to make a necro. Landed in elsweyr at the first wayshrine. Laggy as all hell. Couldnt mount after close to a minute of seeing the beginning of the mount animation, only to have it fail. Logged out and doubt i'll be jumping in to eso again any time soon. Finally cancelled my sub as well.

BRogueNZ · June 2019

Bhaal5 wrote: »

So hows the ping going?

with vpn, ok if you ignore EP lol
without I wouldn't even bother

gronoxvx · June 2019

Bhaal5 · June 2019

Back to the top to be ignored

Androconium · June 2019

Karmanorway wrote: »

StackonClown wrote: »

Hi,

In in Australia - and my lag is way worse than a few months ago (took a break) - anyone else face this also?
I wonder if its local or a global issue ?

Im in Norway, i get 999+ every 5 secs... In BGs, dont want to mention cyrodiil.. Makes me wanna cry

You say that like it doesn't happen here in Australia. FPS 1 LAT 999+ << those figures are typically in busy areas of Tamriel. This suggests to me that it's a fundamental aspect of game (mis)design.

World-class Satellite gives me 2.0 seconds response time.

My standard, high quality mobile tether provides 12FPS and 417-777 ms.

Blame ZOS
Blame Akamai
Blame Telstra.

But why buy a product that CANNOT work?

Bobby_V_Rockit · June 2019

gronoxvx wrote: »

Melbourne, Australia

Xbox - na, remembered that i pre-ordered elsweyr (or else i would have cancelled it). Loaded in to make a necro. Landed in elsweyr at the first wayshrine. Laggy as all hell. Couldnt mount after close to a minute of seeing the beginning of the mount animation, only to have it fail. Logged out and doubt i'll be jumping in to eso again any time soon. Finally cancelled my sub as well.

Same, cant interact with NPCs, voices and animations completely out of sink, getting booted to main screen cos lag. Gaaaah!

Bethgael · June 2019

The NBN causes all sorts of issues, it's mostly the upspeed choke that causes the problem. We don't communicate with the servers o/s fast enough.

StackonClown · June 2019

Hi,

OP here again - the ping is getting pretty bad for me now, consistently over 300ms.
Out of interest, which VPNs have people tried? I used mudcrab(fish).

Coggo · June 2019

Battleping drags me down to 300. I keep with it because it feels a more stable connection - less disconnects. Melbourne.

Bhaal5 · June 2019

Imagine playing a mmo with raids and pvp with your ms in the low 200's? You aint gonna get that here even if you throw more money at a 2nd subscription via a vpn