StamWhipCultist wrote: »
StamWhipCultist wrote: »
In fact i could provide direct evidence in this very topic that would prettymuch counter any point of the hyperbole you posted to discredit my argument.
But i think at this point that´s a futile attempt.
Also i´m not a native english speaker.
I did.
StamWhipCultist wrote: »You even compared it with volatile armor, showing lack of understanding of both Sorc and DK
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Boundless is good skill, with good range. For mine campers is more than enough range, for all other PvP scenarios - its good as well.
StamWhipCultist wrote: »You even compared it with volatile armor, showing lack of understanding of both Sorc and DK
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Boundless is good skill, with good range. For mine campers is more than enough range, for all other PvP scenarios - its good as well.
That´s why 9 out of 10 good sorcs do not slot boundless storm and every magDK slots volatile armor. Understood.
I play both classes. I have two magDKs and three magSorcs. There is a reason why i don´t touch boundless on sorc and volatile is a nobrainer on DK.
But then i don´t know what i´m talking about apparently. #stamwhip
StamWhipCultist wrote: »StamWhipCultist wrote: »You even compared it with volatile armor, showing lack of understanding of both Sorc and DK
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Boundless is good skill, with good range. For mine campers is more than enough range, for all other PvP scenarios - its good as well.
That´s why 9 out of 10 good sorcs do not slot boundless storm and every magDK slots volatile armor. Understood.
I play both classes. I have two magDKs and three magSorcs. There is a reason why i don´t touch boundless on sorc and volatile is a nobrainer on DK.
But then i don´t know what i´m talking about apparently. #stamwhip
You really do not understand. Good sorcs up to now did not need to slot boundless, since shields were enough. Next patch, seems they will have to do so.
Also, comparing very mobile class that can use skill to make distance and kite multiple enemies with a DK that is very slow, and without good escape mechanisms.
StamWhipCultist wrote: »StamWhipCultist wrote: »You even compared it with volatile armor, showing lack of understanding of both Sorc and DK
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Boundless is good skill, with good range. For mine campers is more than enough range, for all other PvP scenarios - its good as well.
That´s why 9 out of 10 good sorcs do not slot boundless storm and every magDK slots volatile armor. Understood.
I play both classes. I have two magDKs and three magSorcs. There is a reason why i don´t touch boundless on sorc and volatile is a nobrainer on DK.
But then i don´t know what i´m talking about apparently. #stamwhip
You really do not understand. Good sorcs up to now did not need to slot boundless, since shields were enough. Next patch, seems they will have to do so.
Also, comparing very mobile class that can use skill to make distance and kite multiple enemies with a DK that is very slow, and without good escape mechanisms.
StamWhipCultist wrote: »You compared skills and only skills, without seeing class as a whole, making your arguments weaker and biased. Also, since you mention ad hominem, your #stamwhip comments are just that. Have a moderately nice day.
StamWhipCultist wrote: »You compared skills and only skills, without seeing class as a whole, making your arguments weaker and biased. Also, since you mention ad hominem, your #stamwhip comments are just that. Have a moderately nice day.
StamWhipCultist wrote: »You compared skills and only skills, without seeing class as a whole, making your arguments weaker and biased. Also, since you mention ad hominem, your #stamwhip comments are just that. Have a moderately nice day.
What ?
Volite armor have more than double damage, have double range, give you 12% more healing, and cost 1.1k+ less than boundless storm.
Boundless storm can proc an execute that will not kill people since sorc already have an execute that proc when going under 20% and sorc have 7.5s of major exepdition, which is useless wihthout snare immunity and regarding the cost of it.
This is biased ?
Let's look the class at a whole :
- Sorc is a ranged class and DK a melee one. Why DK fighting melee has the double range than the class fighting at range ?
- Sorc is harder to sustain than DK, why the sorc skill cost 1.1k+ more than the DK one for a lesser version ?
Can you tell me why the sorc skill should cost 1.1k+ more, having far less damage, giving far less usefull passive boost, and having 2x less the range ?
StamWhipCultist wrote: »StamWhipCultist wrote: »You compared skills and only skills, without seeing class as a whole, making your arguments weaker and biased. Also, since you mention ad hominem, your #stamwhip comments are just that. Have a moderately nice day.
What ?
Volite armor have more than double damage, have double range, give you 12% more healing, and cost 1.1k+ less than boundless storm.
Boundless storm can proc an execute that will not kill people since sorc already have an execute that proc when going under 20% and sorc have 7.5s of major exepdition, which is useless wihthout snare immunity and regarding the cost of it.
This is biased ?
Let's look the class at a whole :
- Sorc is a ranged class and DK a melee one. Why DK fighting melee has the double range than the class fighting at range ?
- Sorc is harder to sustain than DK, why the sorc skill cost 1.1k+ more than the DK one for a lesser version ?
Can you tell me why the sorc skill should cost 1.1k+ more, having far less damage, giving far less usefull passive boost, and having 2x less the range ?
Can you tell me why one class should have active and passive execute and some other class should have zero executes?
No, you cant. yet you want to have cheapest skills and greatest range on them since you are biased, same as that other dude.
StamWhipCultist wrote: »StamWhipCultist wrote: »You compared skills and only skills, without seeing class as a whole, making your arguments weaker and biased. Also, since you mention ad hominem, your #stamwhip comments are just that. Have a moderately nice day.
What ?
Volite armor have more than double damage, have double range, give you 12% more healing, and cost 1.1k+ less than boundless storm.
Boundless storm can proc an execute that will not kill people since sorc already have an execute that proc when going under 20% and sorc have 7.5s of major exepdition, which is useless wihthout snare immunity and regarding the cost of it.
This is biased ?
Let's look the class at a whole :
- Sorc is a ranged class and DK a melee one. Why DK fighting melee has the double range than the class fighting at range ?
- Sorc is harder to sustain than DK, why the sorc skill cost 1.1k+ more than the DK one for a lesser version ?
Can you tell me why the sorc skill should cost 1.1k+ more, having far less damage, giving far less usefull passive boost, and having 2x less the range ?
Can you tell me why one class should have active and passive execute and some other class should have zero executes?
No, you cant. yet you want to have cheapest skills and greatest range on them since you are biased, same as that other dude.
Since you seem to think Implosion is such an awesome passive, I’d trade Helping Hands for it. Deal?
StamWhipCultist wrote: »StamWhipCultist wrote: »StamWhipCultist wrote: »You compared skills and only skills, without seeing class as a whole, making your arguments weaker and biased. Also, since you mention ad hominem, your #stamwhip comments are just that. Have a moderately nice day.
What ?
Volite armor have more than double damage, have double range, give you 12% more healing, and cost 1.1k+ less than boundless storm.
Boundless storm can proc an execute that will not kill people since sorc already have an execute that proc when going under 20% and sorc have 7.5s of major exepdition, which is useless wihthout snare immunity and regarding the cost of it.
This is biased ?
Let's look the class at a whole :
- Sorc is a ranged class and DK a melee one. Why DK fighting melee has the double range than the class fighting at range ?
- Sorc is harder to sustain than DK, why the sorc skill cost 1.1k+ more than the DK one for a lesser version ?
Can you tell me why the sorc skill should cost 1.1k+ more, having far less damage, giving far less usefull passive boost, and having 2x less the range ?
Can you tell me why one class should have active and passive execute and some other class should have zero executes?
No, you cant. yet you want to have cheapest skills and greatest range on them since you are biased, same as that other dude.
Since you seem to think Implosion is such an awesome passive, I’d trade Helping Hands for it. Deal?
if u want helping hands, roll DK.
StamWhipCultist wrote: »StamWhipCultist wrote: »StamWhipCultist wrote: »You compared skills and only skills, without seeing class as a whole, making your arguments weaker and biased. Also, since you mention ad hominem, your #stamwhip comments are just that. Have a moderately nice day.
What ?
Volite armor have more than double damage, have double range, give you 12% more healing, and cost 1.1k+ less than boundless storm.
Boundless storm can proc an execute that will not kill people since sorc already have an execute that proc when going under 20% and sorc have 7.5s of major exepdition, which is useless wihthout snare immunity and regarding the cost of it.
This is biased ?
Let's look the class at a whole :
- Sorc is a ranged class and DK a melee one. Why DK fighting melee has the double range than the class fighting at range ?
- Sorc is harder to sustain than DK, why the sorc skill cost 1.1k+ more than the DK one for a lesser version ?
Can you tell me why the sorc skill should cost 1.1k+ more, having far less damage, giving far less usefull passive boost, and having 2x less the range ?
Can you tell me why one class should have active and passive execute and some other class should have zero executes?
No, you cant. yet you want to have cheapest skills and greatest range on them since you are biased, same as that other dude.
Since you seem to think Implosion is such an awesome passive, I’d trade Helping Hands for it. Deal?
if u want helping hands, roll DK.
Same to you if you want executes, roll a Sorc.
I think this guy is just a troll derailing the whole tread and should be ignored.
StamWhipCultist wrote: »StamWhipCultist wrote: »StamWhipCultist wrote: »You compared skills and only skills, without seeing class as a whole, making your arguments weaker and biased. Also, since you mention ad hominem, your #stamwhip comments are just that. Have a moderately nice day.
What ?
Volite armor have more than double damage, have double range, give you 12% more healing, and cost 1.1k+ less than boundless storm.
Boundless storm can proc an execute that will not kill people since sorc already have an execute that proc when going under 20% and sorc have 7.5s of major exepdition, which is useless wihthout snare immunity and regarding the cost of it.
This is biased ?
Let's look the class at a whole :
- Sorc is a ranged class and DK a melee one. Why DK fighting melee has the double range than the class fighting at range ?
- Sorc is harder to sustain than DK, why the sorc skill cost 1.1k+ more than the DK one for a lesser version ?
Can you tell me why the sorc skill should cost 1.1k+ more, having far less damage, giving far less usefull passive boost, and having 2x less the range ?
Can you tell me why one class should have active and passive execute and some other class should have zero executes?
No, you cant. yet you want to have cheapest skills and greatest range on them since you are biased, same as that other dude.
Since you seem to think Implosion is such an awesome passive, I’d trade Helping Hands for it. Deal?
if u want helping hands, roll DK.
Same to you if you want executes, roll a Sorc.
I think this guy is just a troll derailing the whole tread and should be ignored.
Someone opposed a sorc buff that derra wanted, must be a troll. Lol, what level of reasoning.
StamWhipCultist wrote: »StamWhipCultist wrote: »StamWhipCultist wrote: »You compared skills and only skills, without seeing class as a whole, making your arguments weaker and biased. Also, since you mention ad hominem, your #stamwhip comments are just that. Have a moderately nice day.
What ?
Volite armor have more than double damage, have double range, give you 12% more healing, and cost 1.1k+ less than boundless storm.
Boundless storm can proc an execute that will not kill people since sorc already have an execute that proc when going under 20% and sorc have 7.5s of major exepdition, which is useless wihthout snare immunity and regarding the cost of it.
This is biased ?
Let's look the class at a whole :
- Sorc is a ranged class and DK a melee one. Why DK fighting melee has the double range than the class fighting at range ?
- Sorc is harder to sustain than DK, why the sorc skill cost 1.1k+ more than the DK one for a lesser version ?
Can you tell me why the sorc skill should cost 1.1k+ more, having far less damage, giving far less usefull passive boost, and having 2x less the range ?
Can you tell me why one class should have active and passive execute and some other class should have zero executes?
No, you cant. yet you want to have cheapest skills and greatest range on them since you are biased, same as that other dude.
Since you seem to think Implosion is such an awesome passive, I’d trade Helping Hands for it. Deal?
if u want helping hands, roll DK.
Same to you if you want executes, roll a Sorc.
I think this guy is just a troll derailing the whole tread and should be ignored.
Someone opposed a sorc buff that derra wanted, must be a troll. Lol, what level of reasoning.
I´m simply pointing out underperforming skills.
Boundless storm is the only armor buff that´s weak enough (especially when considering the whole class toolkit) for people to consider chudan monsterset over slotting the skill.
Either the other armor buffs are too good - or boundless is too weak.
Then no points regarding my argument about the skill gets adressed. The only actual counterargument is a strawman over a related passive. How can you argue it´s not trolling?
StamWhipCultist wrote: »StamWhipCultist wrote: »StamWhipCultist wrote: »You compared skills and only skills, without seeing class as a whole, making your arguments weaker and biased. Also, since you mention ad hominem, your #stamwhip comments are just that. Have a moderately nice day.
What ?
Volite armor have more than double damage, have double range, give you 12% more healing, and cost 1.1k+ less than boundless storm.
Boundless storm can proc an execute that will not kill people since sorc already have an execute that proc when going under 20% and sorc have 7.5s of major exepdition, which is useless wihthout snare immunity and regarding the cost of it.
This is biased ?
Let's look the class at a whole :
- Sorc is a ranged class and DK a melee one. Why DK fighting melee has the double range than the class fighting at range ?
- Sorc is harder to sustain than DK, why the sorc skill cost 1.1k+ more than the DK one for a lesser version ?
Can you tell me why the sorc skill should cost 1.1k+ more, having far less damage, giving far less usefull passive boost, and having 2x less the range ?
Can you tell me why one class should have active and passive execute and some other class should have zero executes?
No, you cant. yet you want to have cheapest skills and greatest range on them since you are biased, same as that other dude.
Since you seem to think Implosion is such an awesome passive, I’d trade Helping Hands for it. Deal?
if u want helping hands, roll DK.
Same to you if you want executes, roll a Sorc.
I think this guy is just a troll derailing the whole tread and should be ignored.
Someone opposed a sorc buff that derra wanted, must be a troll. Lol, what level of reasoning.
I´m simply pointing out underperforming skills.
Boundless storm is the only armor buff that´s weak enough (especially when considering the whole class toolkit) for people to consider chudan monsterset over slotting the skill.
Either the other armor buffs are too good - or boundless is too weak.
Then no points regarding my argument about the skill gets adressed. The only actual counterargument is a strawman over a related passive. How can you argue it´s not trolling?
So @ZOS_RobGarrett are you reading all these posts?
@ZOS_RobGarrett
Remember this genius work of yours when the company releases it's flagging subscription numbers internally. Or when they posts up results for next quarter, and everyone is trying to figure out why crown sales are so much lower.
When you're collecting your things from your desk and putting them in a box, I want you to remember this moment.
There's no convincing stupid that it's being stupid, especially when compounded with ignorant and stubborn. I'm through trying to reason or bargain with you guys. I honestly hope this works out for you in the end, but it's not looking good.
StamWhipCultist wrote: »One more question. Will you settle down before sorc has all of its skills cheapest or most damaging compared to other classes?
You do not desire balance, you want to have advantage in all aspects to all other classes.
StamWhipCultist wrote: »Also, you wrote that DK passives are good - well newsflash, DK class reps and community playing DKs as one of biggest issues with DK point out dated and useless passives.
StamWhipCultist wrote: »You say zos should buff skill sorcererer have on its disposal to be at least as good as dk skill. I say its not needed due to how other skills in sorcerer/dk arsenal work in more or less synergy with eachother.
You bring all down to level of personal attacks, since all you have left in that argument is making fun of one who called your buff cryout biased.