ESO Class Reps

Wolfchild07

Are there considerations for werewolves/vampires also? Would be nice to know if the reps are also giving feedback on non-class specific skill lines.

NightbladeMechanics

Contraptions wrote: »

Let's hope these people can be objective and impartial regarding class balance. Often when such "player rep" programs are done it inevitably leads to politics and people trying to favour their own class over others.

We'll see.

We really do want to provide objective and impartial feedback which improves the game for all players in all play styles. If my word alone is not enough to convince you, then I hope our future actions are. I really mean this. It's a very intelligent and levelheaded group of players. I've been pleasantly surprised.

LegendaryMage

Wouldn't it have been easier to just have one Discord server rather than a few? You can always organize it in categories any way you see fit and it would be much more practical for anyone looking to keep tabs on what's being discussed across multiple classes or channels (pve, pvp, hybrid etc).

Besides, I've been saying this for a long time, ESO needs its own official Discord server, pretty much all big games have one nowadays.

DoctorESO

Waffennacht wrote: »

@Jake1576 you're right, not a single console player.

ZoS really does think of us as second class citizens.

But they are representing classes in general.

DoctorESO

One thing to keep in mind is the compensation, or lack thereof, that the class reps will be receiving. I'm sure it's either nothing or a nominal amount of crowns. Rather, they're paid in terms of job satisfaction.

DoctorESO

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Contraptions wrote: »

Let's hope these people can be objective and impartial regarding class balance. Often when such "player rep" programs are done it inevitably leads to politics and people trying to favour their own class over others.

We'll see.

We really do want to provide objective and impartial feedback which improves the game for all players in all play styles. If my word alone is not enough to convince you, then I hope our future actions are. I really mean this. It's a very intelligent and levelheaded group of players. I've been pleasantly surprised.

So how do you folks meet? Telephone? Skype? Or do you actually fly out to ZOS's office?

Joy_Division

I feel like I'm being a broken record here and whatever I write goes in one ear and out the other, but I'll give it one more try

DuskMarine wrote: »

to be honest i dont trust this small group at all. the ones that shouldve been in there without fail shouldve been gilliamtherogue, woeller and alcast the ones that actually know what their doing in theorycrafting and number crunching to the extremes. but the rest of ya no you guys i dont trust at all. id rather them do a mass statistical study over letting a small handful of people(only one that ive even heard of actually understanding the game) control our game balance fate.

Can we calm down please? We do *NOT* have control over game balance!

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As a reminder, the class reps will be collating top concerns for every class to present to the Dev Team; they will not be making game-altering decisions, but they will make sure your voice is heard.

And just because we don't have a youtube channel, don't publish content, or aren't well-known to you or anyone else does not mean we lack an understanding of how the game works. You're not even giving us a chance, let alone giving ZOS the benefit of the doubt that they actually put some thought about who to chose. I get it, we should have to prove that we can do this, but how about not judging us purely on whether or not you heard of us or the first 48 hours?

Blobsky wrote: »

First opinions on the discords so far (Note this is just my personal opinion!) Note these views are as a PvPer.

Warden: Did not check this discord as I am not involved

Dragonknight: Extremely well led by @Quantum_V who looked at fair buffs and nerfs where appropriate

Templar: Pretty much empty of knowledagble magplars who play PvP on non healtanks and little activity from @Joy_Division who seemed pretty busy at the time, so can't really say. Ill see how it progresses in the next few days.

Sorceror: HEAVILY bias thread with a lot of very dodgy buffs being "strongly considered" for magsorc, specifically pets, by people with little to no pet knowledge, but also a few good Quality of Life changes to some buggy skills, lead by @Hexys. Ill see how it progresses in the next few days

Nightblade: Absolutely awful with walls of spiteful content and off topic hate, drama etc. Little to no actual discussion after the first few hours (which were actually good). Left the discord and no intentions bothering sharing my magnb experience (my main class) in that atmosphere. No idea who the main lead here was meant to be but it was shocking.

Definite winner was @Quantum_V whom im very glad won the spot!

The discords were setup yesterday. It's Memorial Day Weekend. After a miserable Winter-Spring in the Northeast USA, we finally had a nice day so I went outside for a run. Then I cut the grass. Then I helped my parents set up a garden. Then I decided to do some PvP because the patch just came out, I don't even have the psijic stuff leveled, still using my old build, and am unfamiliar with how things have changed. It's a huge patch with lots of changes and I want to get a feel for how things are playing out before I judge a book by its cover and use my gut instinct in my feedback. In spite of all that, I did still look at all the Discords - even the DK stuff (which I don;t really play anyone). Just because I'm not posting every 15 minutes, doesn't mean I'm not keeping up.

******

We have been out this for less than 48 hours and some folks have already made up their mind and forming opinions even though they don't even know us or things that are contrary to what Gina has posted.

We all want to make this work. I just virtually met some of these people hours ago. We didn't even have a single meeting yet.

DoctorESO

Joy_Division wrote: »

I feel like I'm being a broken record here and whatever I write goes in one ear and out the other, but I'll give it one more try

DuskMarine wrote: »

to be honest i dont trust this small group at all. the ones that shouldve been in there without fail shouldve been gilliamtherogue, woeller and alcast the ones that actually know what their doing in theorycrafting and number crunching to the extremes. but the rest of ya no you guys i dont trust at all. id rather them do a mass statistical study over letting a small handful of people(only one that ive even heard of actually understanding the game) control our game balance fate.

Can we calm down please? We do *NOT* have control over game balance!

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As a reminder, the class reps will be collating top concerns for every class to present to the Dev Team; they will not be making game-altering decisions, but they will make sure your voice is heard.

And just because we don't have a youtube channel, don't publish content, or aren't well-known to you or anyone else does not mean we lack an understanding of how the game works. You're not even giving us a chance, let alone giving ZOS the benefit of the doubt that they actually put some thought about who to chose. I get it, we should have to prove that we can do this, but how about not judging us purely on whether or not you heard of us or the first 48 hours?

Blobsky wrote: »

First opinions on the discords so far (Note this is just my personal opinion!) Note these views are as a PvPer.

Warden: Did not check this discord as I am not involved

Dragonknight: Extremely well led by @Quantum_V who looked at fair buffs and nerfs where appropriate

Templar: Pretty much empty of knowledagble magplars who play PvP on non healtanks and little activity from @Joy_Division who seemed pretty busy at the time, so can't really say. Ill see how it progresses in the next few days.

Sorceror: HEAVILY bias thread with a lot of very dodgy buffs being "strongly considered" for magsorc, specifically pets, by people with little to no pet knowledge, but also a few good Quality of Life changes to some buggy skills, lead by @Hexys. Ill see how it progresses in the next few days

Nightblade: Absolutely awful with walls of spiteful content and off topic hate, drama etc. Little to no actual discussion after the first few hours (which were actually good). Left the discord and no intentions bothering sharing my magnb experience (my main class) in that atmosphere. No idea who the main lead here was meant to be but it was shocking.

Definite winner was @Quantum_V whom im very glad won the spot!

The discords were setup yesterday. It's Memorial Day Weekend. After a miserable Winter-Spring in the Northeast USA, we finally had a nice day so I went outside for a run. Then I cut the grass. Then I helped my parents set up a garden. Then I decided to do some PvP because the patch just came out, I don't even have the psijic stuff leveled, still using my old build, and am unfamiliar with how things have changed. It's a huge patch with lots of changes and I want to get a feel for how things are playing out before I judge a book by its cover and use my gut instinct in my feedback. In spite of all that, I did still look at all the Discords - even the DK stuff (which I don;t really play anyone). Just because I'm not posting every 15 minutes, doesn't mean I'm not keeping up.

******

We have been out this for less than 48 hours and some folks have already made up their mind and forming opinions even though they don't even know us or things that are contrary to what Gina has posted.

We all want to make this work. I just virtually met some of these people hours ago. We didn't even have a single meeting yet.

It's called jealousy.

Waffennacht

. I'm figuring out this discord thing. But now I have access to an ESO chat room, I dunno if my addictive personality can handle this lmfao

MinarasLaure

Masel92 wrote: »

MinarasLaure wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

Who got Warden?

Hopefully not Alcast.
He's the one who thought deep fissure was OP (and also thought the stun was aoe lol)

I can only repeat myself: No-one of us has any class they represent assigned to themselves, we are all responsible for all of them...

Which is great news, considering how little people know about some classes.
Just make sure when you start talking about a class, all of you really know what you're talking about.

Jake1576

DoctorESO wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

I feel like I'm being a broken record here and whatever I write goes in one ear and out the other, but I'll give it one more try

DuskMarine wrote: »

to be honest i dont trust this small group at all. the ones that shouldve been in there without fail shouldve been gilliamtherogue, woeller and alcast the ones that actually know what their doing in theorycrafting and number crunching to the extremes. but the rest of ya no you guys i dont trust at all. id rather them do a mass statistical study over letting a small handful of people(only one that ive even heard of actually understanding the game) control our game balance fate.

Can we calm down please? We do *NOT* have control over game balance!

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

As a reminder, the class reps will be collating top concerns for every class to present to the Dev Team; they will not be making game-altering decisions, but they will make sure your voice is heard.

And just because we don't have a youtube channel, don't publish content, or aren't well-known to you or anyone else does not mean we lack an understanding of how the game works. You're not even giving us a chance, let alone giving ZOS the benefit of the doubt that they actually put some thought about who to chose. I get it, we should have to prove that we can do this, but how about not judging us purely on whether or not you heard of us or the first 48 hours?

Blobsky wrote: »

First opinions on the discords so far (Note this is just my personal opinion!) Note these views are as a PvPer.

Warden: Did not check this discord as I am not involved

Dragonknight: Extremely well led by @Quantum_V who looked at fair buffs and nerfs where appropriate

Templar: Pretty much empty of knowledagble magplars who play PvP on non healtanks and little activity from @Joy_Division who seemed pretty busy at the time, so can't really say. Ill see how it progresses in the next few days.

Sorceror: HEAVILY bias thread with a lot of very dodgy buffs being "strongly considered" for magsorc, specifically pets, by people with little to no pet knowledge, but also a few good Quality of Life changes to some buggy skills, lead by @Hexys. Ill see how it progresses in the next few days

Nightblade: Absolutely awful with walls of spiteful content and off topic hate, drama etc. Little to no actual discussion after the first few hours (which were actually good). Left the discord and no intentions bothering sharing my magnb experience (my main class) in that atmosphere. No idea who the main lead here was meant to be but it was shocking.

Definite winner was @Quantum_V whom im very glad won the spot!

The discords were setup yesterday. It's Memorial Day Weekend. After a miserable Winter-Spring in the Northeast USA, we finally had a nice day so I went outside for a run. Then I cut the grass. Then I helped my parents set up a garden. Then I decided to do some PvP because the patch just came out, I don't even have the psijic stuff leveled, still using my old build, and am unfamiliar with how things have changed. It's a huge patch with lots of changes and I want to get a feel for how things are playing out before I judge a book by its cover and use my gut instinct in my feedback. In spite of all that, I did still look at all the Discords - even the DK stuff (which I don;t really play anyone). Just because I'm not posting every 15 minutes, doesn't mean I'm not keeping up.

******

We have been out this for less than 48 hours and some folks have already made up their mind and forming opinions even though they don't even know us or things that are contrary to what Gina has posted.

We all want to make this work. I just virtually met some of these people hours ago. We didn't even have a single meeting yet.

It's called jealousy.

No it's called zos is dumb for thinking only pc/mac players are the only one's that know about the game

DuskMarine

actually im not even gonna reply anymore theres no point the forums just feel like a newspaper

Eyro

So who do I send my fix repentance spam to?

Liofa

I am pretty confident that this comment will also be ignored by most of you even though it's been said many times but here goes.

Class Reps do NOT have any effect on changes ZOS decides to do. We are just a bunch of people who know what they are doing in terms of game balance, can understand the difference between actual feedback and bias suggestions. We are just helping the Dev Team to pick the most important problems in the game and make sure they know about it.

Again, we do NOT have any effect on the changes. If you didn't bother to read the first post by Gina, here it is for you:

As a reminder, the class reps will be collating top concerns for every class to present to the Dev Team; they will not be making game-altering decisions, but they will make sure your voice is heard.

Again, ZOS already reads most feedback/suggestions on forums. There is absolutely no difference between your feedback and ours. The exact opposite, 99% of our feedback will be yours. That's why we have these Discords servers, to have as much perspectives as we can get. Both will be considered equally by Devs. Just because a bunch of people selected as Class Reps, it doesn't mean we have the power to change the game at our will. So you can relax about Class Reps ''breaking the game'' because it won't happen.

DuskMarine

Liofa wrote: »

I am pretty confident that this comment will also be ignored by most of you even though it's been said many times but here goes.

Class Reps do NOT have any effect on changes ZOS decides to do. We are just a bunch of people who know what they are doing in terms of game balance, can understand the difference between actual feedback and bias suggestions. We are just helping the Dev Team to pick the most important problems in the game and make sure they know about it.

Again, we do NOT have any effect on the changes. If you didn't bother to read the first post by Gina, here it is for you:

As a reminder, the class reps will be collating top concerns for every class to present to the Dev Team; they will not be making game-altering decisions, but they will make sure your voice is heard.

Again, ZOS already reads most feedback/suggestions on forums. There is absolutely no difference between your feedback and ours. The exact opposite, 99% of our feedback will be yours. That's why we have these Discords servers, to have as much perspectives as we can get. Both will be considered equally by Devs. Just because a bunch of people selected as Class Reps, it doesn't mean we have the power to change the game at our will. So you can relax about Class Reps ''breaking the game'' because it won't happen.

i shall believe it when i see it i still dont trust 99% of the choices

Liofa

DuskMarine wrote: »

i shall believe it when i see it i still dont trust 99% of the choices

That's perfectly fine. Best thing I can ask for you is to join those Discords and share your own feedback and suggestions. That will surely make a difference in our reports to Devs (which you will see what we talked about) unlike saying you don't trust Reps in a forum thread ^^

Jake1576

In my opinion this just seems like it will be a waste of time there are way to many holes in the idea and i don't expect it to work that well especially since there aren't any representatives from console how are you suppose to know what we go though if you only play pc there are players that actually play on pc and console both those are the players that should of been chosen or at least one person who mains console like i said there have been many changes done to skills in this game that benefit players on pc but that don't on console because of how awful the game plays on console it isn't to much to ask zos to choose a representative from console but nope they don't give a flying crap

DuskMarine

Jake1576 wrote: »

In my opinion this just seems like it will be a waste of time there are way to many holes in the idea and i don't expect it to work that well especially since there aren't any representatives from console how are you suppose to know what we go though if you only play pc there are players that actually play on pc and console both those are the players that should of been chosen or at least one person who mains console like i said there have been many changes done to skills in this game that benefit players on pc but that don't on console because of how awful the game plays on console it isn't to much to ask zos to choose a representative from console but nope they don't give a flying crap

gonna be blizzard and wow all over again history is just gonna repeat itself

Eyro

DuskMarine wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

In my opinion this just seems like it will be a waste of time there are way to many holes in the idea and i don't expect it to work that well especially since there aren't any representatives from console how are you suppose to know what we go though if you only play pc there are players that actually play on pc and console both those are the players that should of been chosen or at least one person who mains console like i said there have been many changes done to skills in this game that benefit players on pc but that don't on console because of how awful the game plays on console it isn't to much to ask zos to choose a representative from console but nope they don't give a flying crap

gonna be blizzard and wow all over again history is just gonna repeat itself

They would probably kill for those kinds of sub numbers.

Vaoh

Jake1576 wrote: »

In my opinion this just seems like it will be a waste of time there are way to many holes in the idea and i don't expect it to work that well especially since there aren't any representatives from console how are you suppose to know what we go though if you only play pc there are players that actually play on pc and console both those are the players that should of been chosen or at least one person who mains console like i said there have been many changes done to skills in this game that benefit players on pc but that don't on console because of how awful the game plays on console it isn't to much to ask zos to choose a representative from console but nope they don't give a flying crap

To be fair, I don’t think console players in general were really qualified due to the atmosphere on console (no add-ons, etc), whereas on PC people have those numbers to test and really understand stuff in terms of numbers at least. I say this as a console player lol. Pretty much anyone I thought “qualified” happened to be a PC player likely due to this.
I was sent the email but could not accept the task of class rep because I’m just too busy irl to really deal with the task. As long as the Reps listen to feedback like they’re supposed to, all should be well
I’ll be providing lots of feedback to the Reps regarding Wardens and specifically balance issues that exist on console which do not exist on PC.... hopefully to relay some of it to the Devs.

DuskMarine

Eyro wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

In my opinion this just seems like it will be a waste of time there are way to many holes in the idea and i don't expect it to work that well especially since there aren't any representatives from console how are you suppose to know what we go though if you only play pc there are players that actually play on pc and console both those are the players that should of been chosen or at least one person who mains console like i said there have been many changes done to skills in this game that benefit players on pc but that don't on console because of how awful the game plays on console it isn't to much to ask zos to choose a representative from console but nope they don't give a flying crap

gonna be blizzard and wow all over again history is just gonna repeat itself

They would probably kill for those kinds of sub numbers.

if you remember when blizzard tried this their sub rate hit rock bottom till they reverted admitted they screwed up and never tryed it again. its just gonna be the same rinse and repeat process of blizzard and zos will learn. ill still play the game but i have no faith in this its already failed once.

Vaoh

DuskMarine wrote: »

Eyro wrote: »

DuskMarine wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

In my opinion this just seems like it will be a waste of time there are way to many holes in the idea and i don't expect it to work that well especially since there aren't any representatives from console how are you suppose to know what we go though if you only play pc there are players that actually play on pc and console both those are the players that should of been chosen or at least one person who mains console like i said there have been many changes done to skills in this game that benefit players on pc but that don't on console because of how awful the game plays on console it isn't to much to ask zos to choose a representative from console but nope they don't give a flying crap

gonna be blizzard and wow all over again history is just gonna repeat itself

They would probably kill for those kinds of sub numbers.

if you remember when blizzard tried this their sub rate hit rock bottom till they reverted admitted they screwed up and never tryed it again. its just gonna be the same rinse and repeat process of blizzard and zos will learn. ill still play the game but i have no faith in this its already failed once.

Wait, WoW tried a class rep system and it failed? If that’s the case idk why ZOS thinks they’d do any better....

Especially after ignoring the mountain of feedback in the Summerset official class balance threads, pushing the responsibilities onto players sounds super lazy. I kind of see why this system could fail badly, but then again, *maybe* there is hope Either way, ZOS can’t do much worse than they currently are when it comes to transparency

Tasear

Eyro wrote: »

So who do I send my fix repentance spam to?

Vaoh wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

In my opinion this just seems like it will be a waste of time there are way to many holes in the idea and i don't expect it to work that well especially since there aren't any representatives from console how are you suppose to know what we go though if you only play pc there are players that actually play on pc and console both those are the players that should of been chosen or at least one person who mains console like i said there have been many changes done to skills in this game that benefit players on pc but that don't on console because of how awful the game plays on console it isn't to much to ask zos to choose a representative from console but nope they don't give a flying crap

To be fair, I don’t think console players in general were really qualified due to the atmosphere on console (no add-ons, etc), whereas on PC people have those numbers to test and really understand stuff in terms of numbers at least. I say this as a console player lol. Pretty much anyone I thought “qualified” happened to be a PC player likely due to this.
I was sent the email but could not accept the task of class rep because I’m just too busy irl to really deal with the task. As long as the Reps listen to feedback like they’re supposed to, all should be well
I’ll be providing lots of feedback to the Reps regarding Wardens and specifically balance issues that exist on console which do not exist on PC.... hopefully to relay some of it to the Devs.

We have taken notice of console players concerns and added areas to share your concerns from all platforms in the respectable discords.

Vaoh

Tasear wrote: »

Eyro wrote: »

So who do I send my fix repentance spam to?

Vaoh wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

In my opinion this just seems like it will be a waste of time there are way to many holes in the idea and i don't expect it to work that well especially since there aren't any representatives from console how are you suppose to know what we go though if you only play pc there are players that actually play on pc and console both those are the players that should of been chosen or at least one person who mains console like i said there have been many changes done to skills in this game that benefit players on pc but that don't on console because of how awful the game plays on console it isn't to much to ask zos to choose a representative from console but nope they don't give a flying crap

To be fair, I don’t think console players in general were really qualified due to the atmosphere on console (no add-ons, etc), whereas on PC people have those numbers to test and really understand stuff in terms of numbers at least. I say this as a console player lol. Pretty much anyone I thought “qualified” happened to be a PC player likely due to this.
I was sent the email but could not accept the task of class rep because I’m just too busy irl to really deal with the task. As long as the Reps listen to feedback like they’re supposed to, all should be well
I’ll be providing lots of feedback to the Reps regarding Wardens and specifically balance issues that exist on console which do not exist on PC.... hopefully to relay some of it to the Devs.

We have taken notice of console players concerns and added areas to share your concerns from all platforms in the respectable discords.

Where would I find the links to these discords? Or are these Class Rep only?

Zinaroth

Looks great, good luck with the program ZOS and everyone!

From a Templar perspective I would have loved to see @Cinbri on there, but I am confident that @Alcast can crusade the Stamplar cause and finally iron out the clunkiness and inconsistency of the spec compared to all other stamina specs in PvP, and I know @JoyDivision has regularly touched on Stamplar issues on the forums aswell - so all in all I am very optimistic about the input that ZOS is going to get from a selfish (Stamplar) perspective.

Now I just hope ZOS aknowledges this input.

Make Rune and morphs a true mobile self-buff like all other stamina specs have!
- Okay I will shut up now.

Tasear

Vaoh wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Eyro wrote: »

So who do I send my fix repentance spam to?

Vaoh wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

In my opinion this just seems like it will be a waste of time there are way to many holes in the idea and i don't expect it to work that well especially since there aren't any representatives from console how are you suppose to know what we go though if you only play pc there are players that actually play on pc and console both those are the players that should of been chosen or at least one person who mains console like i said there have been many changes done to skills in this game that benefit players on pc but that don't on console because of how awful the game plays on console it isn't to much to ask zos to choose a representative from console but nope they don't give a flying crap

To be fair, I don’t think console players in general were really qualified due to the atmosphere on console (no add-ons, etc), whereas on PC people have those numbers to test and really understand stuff in terms of numbers at least. I say this as a console player lol. Pretty much anyone I thought “qualified” happened to be a PC player likely due to this.
I was sent the email but could not accept the task of class rep because I’m just too busy irl to really deal with the task. As long as the Reps listen to feedback like they’re supposed to, all should be well
I’ll be providing lots of feedback to the Reps regarding Wardens and specifically balance issues that exist on console which do not exist on PC.... hopefully to relay some of it to the Devs.

We have taken notice of console players concerns and added areas to share your concerns from all platforms in the respectable discords.

Where would I find the links to these discords? Or are these Class Rep only?

The purpose of these servers is to have a consolidated space where anyone interested can participate in conversation about Healers, tanks and 5 classes of all specs in both PvE and PvP. From the discussion that occurs here, Class Representatives will work to create a 'master list' of key pain points and general bugs to present to the ESO Development Team.

Feel free to mingle in community areas and get know some your favorite players.

The Warden Discussion https://discord.gg/sTFY4ys

The Sorcerer Discussion https://discord.gg/fdyBdYa

The Tank Discussion https://discord.gg/DRNYd39

The Templar Discussion https://discord.gg/mDyzKbD

The nightblade Discussion https://discord.gg/peWHrcJ

The DragonKnight Discussion https://discord.gg/KEveQR

The Healer Discord
https://discord.gg/TfjSbu9

Blobsky

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Again, I don't give a #$&- why you broke the rules and got banned, you most certainly do not represent me or my ethics.

I guess ZoS is like, "ya know, they are aware of the permabands being allowed to play F- it, hire them!"

It's a forum ban for necroing old threads which were full of PvP update ideas -- which were still relevant at the time, just super old -- and it occurred during a time of strong forum moderation crackdown. It was not an in game ban. I've never broken ToS, cheated, exploited, etc in game. Relax.

As for your concerns about console representation, console players were considered for the group but not selected based on qualifications and history. That said, you'll be plenty able to have your voice heard by us in our discords, all of which I linked on page 4 or 5 of this thread. Console makes up a large portion of the playerbase. We will be looking to raise console-specific issues to the devs' attention.

Blobsky wrote: »

First opinions on the discords so far (Note this is just my personal opinion!) Note these views are as a PvPer.

Warden: Did not check this discord as I am not involved

Dragonknight: Extremely well led by @Quantum_V who looked at fair buffs and nerfs where appropriate

Templar: Pretty much empty of knowledagble magplars who play PvP on non healtanks and little activity from @Joy_Division who seemed pretty busy at the time, so can't really say. Ill see how it progresses in the next few days.

Sorceror: HEAVILY bias thread with a lot of very dodgy buffs being "strongly considered" for magsorc, specifically pets, by people with little to no pet knowledge, but also a few good Quality of Life changes to some buggy skills, lead by @Hexys. Ill see how it progresses in the next few days

Nightblade: Absolutely awful with walls of spiteful content and off topic hate, drama etc. Little to no actual discussion after the first few hours (which were actually good). Left the discord and no intentions bothering sharing my magnb experience (my main class) in that atmosphere. No idea who the main lead here was meant to be but it was shocking.

Definite winner was @Quantum_V whom im very glad won the spot!

Are we looking at the same discords?

There are only 5 links, so yes

Lieblingsjunge

Let's hope whoever's the templar rep - doesn't turn it into an even more of a healbot. It's getting ridiculous and I want my offensive, non-clunky templar back. Cheers.

Torbschka

@NightbladeMechanics @Checkmath @Joy_Division and the others.

Just some feedback / input regarding your discord channels and your behaviour in there.

Plesse, act actually more like a moderator and make it more structured. As @Blobsky already strifed in a further post, some of the discord are pure chaos.

Some things you should 100% do.

1. make a write up about the "major" concerns every week / few days with bullet points.
2. those points will get discussed again, u reevaluate it again.
3. the list should be get "shorter" every week, so every class will have just a "few" (4-6) concerns changes which will be discussed, since we shouldnt be so deillusional that we think we will get pages for every class implemented.
4. after the major concerns are highlighted, THEN we discuss real changes to passives / skills which will adjust those concerns.

This is actually a circle for 1 month. Please create an extra channel for those "weekly" summarys by u, since the channels createdyet are mostly "fluted" with spam and without proper moderation will end up in Chaos.

I dont mean to be rude, I know u guys are just "out" there for 2 days, but u should start organize things from the start. Creating those discords without a propet write up in the beginning how things will be there as a "sticky" post for every discord was actually the first mistake. U wanted this, so please show a bit of professional behaviour.

Liofa

@Torbschka

Thanks for the comment!

We are writing down pretty much every suggestion seperately. As you said, discords are getting messy but you can trust me that we are reading through all of that and noting pretty much everything. We'll be going through them in time and they will be clean, detailed and ready before the Dev meeting, only including the most important problems to make sure they are the top priority.

We are currently in a really early stage. Most of our time is spent on collecting feedback from players. As you can see in those channels, everyone is giving feedback on what they want. Sometimes biased and sometimes not. Sometimes there are arguments and memes all over the place. People taking arguments personally and absurdly seriously and all that. In the end, it's the same people from the official forums ^^ Anyway, we'll be discussing all the given feedback on our own and rewrite the pain points. It will get cleaner on each Class Rep meeting and will be presented to Devs when the time comes. Hopefully when we are done preparing, it will look a lot better than the mess in Discord channels ^^

As Gina said on the first post of this thread, the next meeting will be on mid June. Very close in other words ^^ You'll be able to read what was discussed.

If I missed something, let me know and I'll try to answer as soon as possible