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Its healers job to rezz dead people in vet dungoens , followed by DPS and finally tank.

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Every now and then its argued , that dps should rezz dead , because of some noob healers not understanding mechanics of the game and just want to watch what dps and tanks doing ? This game have passives only for healers for rezz people. No dps or Tank passives have that bonus. Templars has passive. Support passives from PVP. Followed by Lord in champion system. DPS has nothing do with lord champion tree. Its specifically meant for Tanks and healers. In hard dps race fights only healers have privilege of time in vet dungoens. No one needs heals all the time.

Is healer / Tank are meant only for fake healers not understanding their role just look what dps is doing ? At least tank has to hold aggro. Healer has plenty of time , excluding time to time debuffs. Even passives are meant only for healers. I literally hate fake healers just doing nothing in Vet dungeons ( mazzatum, falkreath , Direfrost ) , its hard dps race & healers have no contribution and loot monster sets , because of others hardwork.

Topic is only limited to Vet dungoens.
Edited by Priyasekarssk on May 17, 2018 5:58AM
  • DMuehlhausen
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    It really depends on the situation.

    As a templar healer though if people stay in my AoE heal and Mutagen is up it's normally fine if i do the rezzing. I also use to run with Kragenroc I always tried to since it cut the time in half.

    That being said it does make it easier and more effecient if DD do the rezzing.
  • Hurtfan
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    DDs and everyone else can get the rez passive from PvP, my magsorc has it. If we're talking the same passive where it makes rezing someone a lot faster.
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  • Asardes
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    Actually it's the other DDs job, since not having a healer heal during difficult mechanic will most likely lead to a wipe. Also Master Ritualist is a Templar passive, and Templars can be DDs as well. For example most trial groups will bring a stamina Templar as buff *** support DD for Power of the Light skill (Minor Fracture & Breach -1320 physical and spell resistance) and Illumination passive (Minor Sorcery 5% spell damage). Often he's also on resurrecting duty.
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  • EvilCroc
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    I agree. Just tell me, how to stop DD's from rezing and force them to keep damaging and dodge red?
    My main wears SPC and Kagrenac's. She can rez really fast, but no, dumb DD's always try to stand in stupid and rezing.
    I'm tired of this.
  • idk
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    Clearly OP is not talking about challenging content or his comments would be very different.

    Additionally,
    1. Templar Master Ritualist is available to all Templars, and all should take it. It is certainly not healer role specific.
    2. PvP res passive is only available in PvP. iirc it does not affect anything outside of PvP. Again, this is not healer role specific.
    3. Lord CP Bastion is not bad for magicka DPS (and healer) but besides that there are no healer specific.

    For the most part the OP really seems like a rant vs offering advice and could explain why so much information provided in it is incorrect.

    As for actual challenging content DPS are often mostly required to rez since Support roles are generally more critical. Heck, some top teams had a templar DPS in the group specifically to help rez players in vAS +2 progression when it first came out. I remember Alcast on his templar for that reason. It would have not been so bright making healers primary rezers.

    Hope this helps @Priyasekarssk
    Edited by idk on May 16, 2018 3:29PM
    Really, idk
  • SammyFable
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    It really depends on the fight, in Zhaj'assa's shield phase (70% and 30% health) the off tank will most likely have nothing to do, (same thing when you hide behind the pillars). So Off tank will have plenty of time to rez someone. But in this very same shield phase, (half) the group is going to wipe if one healer suddenly stops healing to rez a noob DD who died earlier.
    In general it's DD -> Healer -> Tank. In many fights DDs can just place their dots and rez quickly without losing extensive amounts of DPS.
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  • badmojo
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    Often I rez as healer in PUG dungeons because the DDs usually focus on their rotation or learning to play the game, and with the lack of voice comms we cant quickly inform them that somebody went down and needs a rez. As healer I am the one noticing it immediately so I am in the best position to get them up quickly. That said, when I start the rez I focus on the other group members and will not hesitate to stop rezzing and throw out some heals if needed.

    But DDs should be the one rezzing, because wipes often happen if the healer dies trying to rez someone. As DD you arent actually needed, you simply speed up the process, tank and healer are everything and should not be put in the vulnerable position of having to rez.
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  • Tasear
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    Thats wrong. Healers job is to heal, thats why he is called healer. If his job was to rez dead, he would be necromancer duh

    :D this needed to added to necromancer line xD. Instant res but at a cost.
    Edited by Tasear on May 16, 2018 3:43PM
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  • zaria
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    It really depends on the situation.

    As a templar healer though if people stay in my AoE heal and Mutagen is up it's normally fine if i do the rezzing. I also use to run with Kragenroc I always tried to since it cut the time in half.

    That being said it does make it easier and more effecient if DD do the rezzing.
    This, as healer I see is part of our job to rez and if some fail on mechanic and dies healer rez, if group damage is very high, yes it might because tank is weak and dd stay in stupid but its still require constant heals so you can not pause.
    As DD if your health go up and down as crazy you know healer is busy.

    Also waiting an few seconds, note that in some areas with lots of junk on the floor it might be hard to see the bodies, even on last boss in WGT it can be hard as they tend to be ash piles. If healer is running around he can not find body so if you see it rez.

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  • Priyasekarssk
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    badmojo wrote: »
    Often I rez as healer in PUG dungeons because the DDs usually focus on their rotation or learning to play the game, and with the lack of voice comms we cant quickly inform them that somebody went down and needs a rez. As healer I am the one noticing it immediately so I am in the best position to get them up quickly. That said, when I start the rez I focus on the other group members and will not hesitate to stop rezzing and throw out some heals if needed.

    But DDs should be the one rezzing, because wipes often happen if the healer dies trying to rez someone. As DD you arent actually needed, you simply speed up the process, tank and healer are everything and should not be put in the vulnerable position of having to rez.

    I dont think so. All hard vet dungoen content, healer is the best choice for rezz. Healer will be in back, he has full view of all people. Healer have plenty of time . No one needs heals all the time except vet trials tricky situcations. If dps is going to rezz in tough dungoens like falkreath , good luck . What healer will do during same time ? Heal all the time !!! Adds will kill entire group in no time. DDs are not needed ? Good luck in clearing dungeons. I put a dps in healer slot when its dps race . Many dungeon group are already doing that.

    Good luck with myth that when I stop healing some dies.
    Edited by Priyasekarssk on May 16, 2018 4:05PM
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    ascan7 wrote: »
    Lol, tell this to the hundreds of leet DPS that die as soon as i stop healing them and start rezzing someone
    This. It works best when the DPS does the rezzing, despite what the O.P. says.
  • Tan9oSuccka
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Healers rezzing means someone else could die so it's dps, tank, then healer in order of rezzing.

    I agree. DPS should be the first to start reviving.

    Sadly, 99.99% of pug DPS with a dead teammate=

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    Well anyway it's always going to be the healers fault, tank keeps shield down dps with 12k health getting oneshotted but it's the healer that needs to rez them cause they're standing in the red
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  • Priyasekarssk
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Thats wrong. Healers job is to heal, thats why he is called healer. If his job was to rez dead, he would be necromancer duh

    :D this needed to added to necromancer line xD. Instant res but at a cost.

    Then DPS job is to DPS. Tank job is to tank. Is this an argument ?
    Edited by Priyasekarssk on May 16, 2018 4:01PM
  • Priyasekarssk
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    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    ascan7 wrote: »
    Lol, tell this to the hundreds of leet DPS that die as soon as i stop healing them and start rezzing someone
    This. It works best when the DPS does the rezzing, despite what the O.P. says.

    Works only in trials. That too, healer should heal the person while rezzing. you will have plenty of DPS, you wont notice huge difference. Vet dungeons ?
    Edited by Priyasekarssk on May 16, 2018 4:04PM
  • AnviOfVai
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    I always thought the tank should res, as they can take much more damage and the healers should stay healing so that the tank does not die while rezzing someone.
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  • Chaos2088
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    Yeah it does't make sense for the healer to stop healing the team for a rez, I get the logic that Templars have a slight passive that gives them a rez bonus, (but not all healers are templars).

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