Shor PC/NA "Official" Discussion

Alpheu5

@usmcjdking I haven't seen you in Shor once the last 3 times I was in there

Alpheu5

@usmcjdking I haven't seen you in Shor once the last 3 times I was in there

W0lf_z13

Stridig wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

TBF, DC is starting to run larger and larger stacks in response to EP's zergs... and round it goes.

The only faction stack ive witness was in response to EP groups but it was confined to Aleswell Farm. Seriously that was it.

PUGz runs a lot bigger than you had listed in your list of Shor guilds w/ sunday night them having 22 whereas Requiem had 11

Sunday was some PUGz plus randoms from zone. Last night there were 7 in group from 7 to 10 pm EST.

figures u guys signed off when i was leaving the second job lol

Stridig

We kept getting forever load screens. The only way to play was to not die and ride everywhere. It was terrible.

Adenoma

If there are invisible members of your group kick them. No more loading screens.

Stridig

Adenoma wrote: »

If there are invisible members of your group kick them. No more loading screens.

Did you ever find your phone? I need some medical advice.

NBrookus

Rickter wrote: »

PUGz runs a lot bigger than you had listed in your list of Shor guilds w/ sunday night them having 22 whereas Requiem had 11

Earlier they said they were going to limit to 12; hence why I put that number for now.

A week from now the list may be totally outdated.

Adenoma

@Stridig , phone has been found. Blow me up.

NBrookus

Stridig wrote: »

We kept getting forever load screens. The only way to play was to not die and ride everywhere. It was terrible.

Have any invisible group members run out of render range and come back before you transit. If someone gets stuck in an infinite load screen, sometimes kicking them from group will help. (If it's crown tho... rip.)

Also, if you transit to a keep right as it flags, sometimes that causes load screens.

Raknosh

Rickter wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

TBF, DC is starting to run larger and larger stacks in response to EP's zergs... and round it goes.

The only faction stack ive witness was in response to EP groups but it was confined to Aleswell Farm. Seriously that was it.

PUGz runs a lot bigger than you had listed in your list of Shor guilds w/ sunday night them having 22 whereas Requiem had 11

That night was an exception. I don't remember the last time we had such a huge group. Half of em were pugs too.
I'd say we usually run 6-12, maybe more if we do pugs wrangling but personally, I'd rather get our *** together first.
Non vet and CP campaigns are 2 different worlds build wise and we all have much to learn I think.

For example, yesterday I got hit by a 14k overload and I have 30k spell resist. I have no idea how that can happen.

Joshlenoir

Rickter wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

really kept my small man group on our toes

Not sure when 8 mans became "small mans" but, i'm sure it looked that way compared to the 14 I had pursue you.

I almost felt bad when you guys deployed your 4th forward camp, but then i figured, "nah they have tens of millions of ap"

We learned a lot too, we have a kill order now, and it was very interesting to see how you guys operated away from a resource tower.

MY apologies, "medium" sized group. Also yeah, we had a guy or two not in comms and would over extend and die. Camps help a lot, being outnumbered by roughly twice your numbers. It's much easier for the larger group to get rezzes off without a camp than a smaller one, hence where the challenge comes from.
I think we could've had better movement but we were up against very unfavorable odds in a relatively random group composition. Luckily I didn't die though in that cluster around the water.

pzschrek

usmcjdking wrote: »

Outside of EP being at 2 bars but mystically having more numbers than the 2 bar DC/AD population combined, was a ton of fun.

I've noticed this in here while running on AD and EP sometimes.

I think that the EP groups are usually fighting on the map, but I have seen a good half-bar + of pop from both DC and AD down in the sewers farming tel var, esp on weekends, now that the other farm campaigns have been shut down. Usually appear to be juicy PVE guilds full to bursting with delicious Tel Var. This may contribute to the apparent disparity sometimes.

Rickter wrote: »

<Priase the Sun> (intentionally spelled incorrectly?)

It's not spelled incorrectly. It's French.

Also I joined at the tail end of that, I think just after the big aleswell farm tower fight, and fought around bleaks a bit before DR and PTS went to Sotha to defend emp.

anamenobodyelsehas

casparian wrote: »

I feel like Shor has been in an odd place for the past week or so.
I'm not saying that the campaign is worse off than it was. That DC/EP raid v. raid fight at Ales farm last night that ended with Campaign Killers or whoever kiting the DC group for like 30 minutes was some great action. But the campaign has become less of the small-scale learning lab that it was for me over the summer and early fall. I guess I just miss that week of 8-10 Requiem vs. 8-10 BCC. I had some great wins, tough losses, and learned so much that week, all without sound bugs or lag. I guess I'm turning into a hipster -- I liked Shor more before it was cool.

Rickter

Joshlenoir wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

really kept my small man group on our toes

Not sure when 8 mans became "small mans" but, i'm sure it looked that way compared to the 14 I had pursue you.

I almost felt bad when you guys deployed your 4th forward camp, but then i figured, "nah they have tens of millions of ap"

We learned a lot too, we have a kill order now, and it was very interesting to see how you guys operated away from a resource tower.

MY apologies, "medium" sized group. Also yeah, we had a guy or two not in comms and would over extend and die. Camps help a lot, being outnumbered by roughly twice your numbers. It's much easier for the larger group to get rezzes off without a camp than a smaller one, hence where the challenge comes from.
I think we could've had better movement but we were up against very unfavorable odds in a relatively random group composition. Luckily I didn't die though in that cluster around the water.

oh yeah youre a slippery one arent you? I think you forgot some lotion on the skin precisely 3 times however as i delightfully delivered 3 killing blows. In fact I believe there are some thanks in order in that Requiem gave CK exactly the kinds of fights they were looking for. Youre very much welcome. Figured 14v8 would light up your night seeing as how each member of CK is worth 2-3 zerglings amirite?

Rickter

hey guys so whats going on here? I dont see any DC scrolls at Alma Ruma. I also dont see AD pushing EP at all. So that's how its going to be after all the work others put into the server?

Stridig

Well at least I will have something to work for when I get home.

A_G_G_R_O

Rickter wrote: »

hey guys so whats going on here? I dont see any DC scrolls at Alma Ruma. I also dont see AD pushing EP at all. So that's how its going to be after all the work others put into the server?

I imagine the daytime yellow pugs weren’t too excited they were gate camped the day before, I was on had fights with PTS but it was boring. Please take everything back and These filthy AD in their holes .

A_G_G_R_O

They are ruining my outnumbered paradise. Just give them incentive to keep zerging sotha. Although I’m sure they left based on the begging whispers sent to a DK guildy of mine pleading for us to come back and help, even tho small scalers don’t change the map

usmcjdking

@Alpheu5

I ran across you! I can't remember if it was on my bowtard or my DK though.

StaticWave

Rickter wrote: »

hey guys so whats going on here? I dont see any DC scrolls at Alma Ruma. I also dont see AD pushing EP at all. So that's how its going to be after all the work others put into the server?

That’s because a certain ad guild decided to not push emp anymore after getting farmed by ANIMOSITY

gabriebe

You had emp when this screenshot was taken. The AD pugs went to Glade and they got obliterated. Took like 20 minutes to de-emp after that.

technohic

Spent the evening in 4 man group of just random people I ran into solo. Didn't take long to run into much larger groups. I'd like to say I learned a bit how to fight outnumbered but only a little maybe. So many leaps and meteors when a lot of times, it was just me and 1 other person. I did kite to some LOS the last time but stopped thinking maybe I'd only have a couple chasers. Nope. But at least I learned.

Edit: To be fair, it looked like DC had a good group going also that probably called for equal force. I just happened to not be in it and hanging out in the wrong neighborhood.

NBrookus

StaticWave wrote: »

That’s because a certain ad guild decided to not push emp anymore after getting farmed by ANIMOSITY

I wouldn't be too sure of that; they were farming O-ticks tonight, and very deliberately did not defend emp. There were only 3 or 4 of us actually defending the last emp keep and a big whopping 1 (guess who) at Faregyl. Said AD group was PvDooring Kings and Farragut during the dethrone. Their people still aren't in the top slots.

Granted AD needs numbers, but this is not the behavior of a group that's an asset to a faction.

Either they'll get their people emp and leave, or this is the new Shor. I'm guessing the former.

Vapirko

StaticWave wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

hey guys so whats going on here? I dont see any DC scrolls at Alma Ruma. I also dont see AD pushing EP at all. So that's how its going to be after all the work others put into the server?

That’s because a certain ad guild decided to not push emp anymore after getting farmed by ANIMOSITY

When I came on we no longer had emp, but some random AD group was cutting us off at tri keeps via resources and then went to hit dragon claw even though EP was two keeps away from emp. I went up to fight them and didn't recognize any names.

StaticWave

NBrookus wrote: »

StaticWave wrote: »

That’s because a certain ad guild decided to not push emp anymore after getting farmed by ANIMOSITY

I wouldn't be too sure of that; they were farming O-ticks tonight, and very deliberately did not defend emp. There were only 3 or 4 of us actually defending the last emp keep and a big whopping 1 (guess who) at Faregyl. Said AD group was PvDooring Kings and Farragut during the dethrone. Their people still aren't in the top slots.

Granted AD needs numbers, but this is not the behavior of a group that's an asset to a faction.

Either they'll get their people emp and leave, or this is the new Shor. I'm guessing the former.

They tried to farm O-ticks to outgain my AP farm, but they couldn't because they aren't very good at it. I out-farmed their AP just by killing pugs with my small group and leeching AP from them. When our group took 5 inner keeps, they finally decided to "help" me emp, but only if I would let them emp after I got emp. As expected, they got wiped so many times so they just gave up and went back to farming their O-ticks and dying in the process. I took matters to my own hands and asked my guild for help, and got finally got emp by some old-fashioned pvdooring inner keeps. I considered hogging emp just for the sake of ruining ( pun intended, you'd have to figure it out since I can't name and shame in this forum ) their emp push, but why waste time for that anyways. I got the costume and the dye which was what I wanted.

StaticWave

Rickter wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

really kept my small man group on our toes

Not sure when 8 mans became "small mans" but, i'm sure it looked that way compared to the 14 I had pursue you.

I almost felt bad when you guys deployed your 4th forward camp, but then i figured, "nah they have tens of millions of ap"

We learned a lot too, we have a kill order now, and it was very interesting to see how you guys operated away from a resource tower.

MY apologies, "medium" sized group. Also yeah, we had a guy or two not in comms and would over extend and die. Camps help a lot, being outnumbered by roughly twice your numbers. It's much easier for the larger group to get rezzes off without a camp than a smaller one, hence where the challenge comes from.
I think we could've had better movement but we were up against very unfavorable odds in a relatively random group composition. Luckily I didn't die though in that cluster around the water.

oh yeah youre a slippery one arent you? I think you forgot some lotion on the skin precisely 3 times however as i delightfully delivered 3 killing blows. In fact I believe there are some thanks in order in that Requiem gave CK exactly the kinds of fights they were looking for. Youre very much welcome. Figured 14v8 would light up your night seeing as how each member of CK is worth 2-3 zerglings amirite?

Requiem did give me a whole lot of lag which I'm not thankful for, unfortunately. It can be solved though, but only if Requiem starts running less people

Datthaw

@Rickter As wolf said Pugz of Daggerfall is mainly a kyne guild, but many of the long time players have gotten bored with the reroll. Shor is great for our guild and me personally. We tend to run groups from like 4-12players, this seems to be on par with most groups i see here. When I am not running with pugz I am almost always solo because I feel its the best way for my sorry [snip] to get better. Shor appears to have a great community for small to medium scale groupfights, and also a strong solo community. Seemedlike a proper fit for many in our guild

[Edited to remove profanity]

Rickter

StaticWave wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

Joshlenoir wrote: »

really kept my small man group on our toes

Not sure when 8 mans became "small mans" but, i'm sure it looked that way compared to the 14 I had pursue you.

I almost felt bad when you guys deployed your 4th forward camp, but then i figured, "nah they have tens of millions of ap"

We learned a lot too, we have a kill order now, and it was very interesting to see how you guys operated away from a resource tower.

MY apologies, "medium" sized group. Also yeah, we had a guy or two not in comms and would over extend and die. Camps help a lot, being outnumbered by roughly twice your numbers. It's much easier for the larger group to get rezzes off without a camp than a smaller one, hence where the challenge comes from.
I think we could've had better movement but we were up against very unfavorable odds in a relatively random group composition. Luckily I didn't die though in that cluster around the water.

oh yeah youre a slippery one arent you? I think you forgot some lotion on the skin precisely 3 times however as i delightfully delivered 3 killing blows. In fact I believe there are some thanks in order in that Requiem gave CK exactly the kinds of fights they were looking for. Youre very much welcome. Figured 14v8 would light up your night seeing as how each member of CK is worth 2-3 zerglings amirite?

Requiem did give me a whole lot of lag which I'm not thankful for, unfortunately. It can be solved though, but only if Requiem starts running less people

14 people gave you lag? i dont think your solution would really solve that issue. Might i suggest upgrading your computer hardware?

In any case, each one of you are worth at least 2-4 Requiem members and I want to give you the practice your guild wants to help you grow as players.

Requiem ran less than 8 people a night very consistently at one point, but you're about 3 months past that stage in our guild evolution. I suspect thats why we provided the challenge you desired, because our core is actually pretty solid having had fought pvpers with such renown as dubzug and qaevir.

DeadlyRecluse

We had a grand ol' time in Shor last night.

Rickter

I have to say, that Alma Ruma scroll run was pretty awesome. I think we had about 3 really good fights with Dreadlords just to get it back to the base and one altercation with AD.

Speaking of, I wanna give props to Dreadlords for consistently bringing the fight to us last night. Poor Broxz had a big target painted on his back after we realized he was consistently the scroll carrier. Very competitive fights on Alessia Bridge, BRK, North of Glade for the scroll, and South of Bleakers between that archway.

Damn good fights.

Deadly we ran into you guys at Alessia I think, there was 18 on my Miat's down there, Sotha-Siege game was real and made quick work of us on the front door. Afterwards, I never really saw an AD collaboration like that again last night. Seemed like the group broke of into 4-9 mans.

In any case, really good stuff on Shor. Too bad the upper tier PvP community refuse to see Shor for what its become. even with 3 bars, Shor is considered dead as dead can be by people who wont even bother to venture into the server during primetime.