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Upcoming PTS Balance Changes

ZOS_GinaBruno
ZOS_GinaBruno
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Hi guys,

We want to give you a heads up that in next week’s PTS incremental patch, you’ll begin seeing balance changes specifically affecting item sets, including some 5-set bonuses and monster sets, and fixes for enchant/poison procs. Below is a preview of the balance changes we’re currently planning to include in the next PTS patch:
  • Increasing the item set proc delay from Selene
  • The summoned monster from the Maw of Infernal set will deal flame damage only, instead of having some attacks be physical and some flame
  • Reducing the item set proc delay from Nerien’eth
  • The item set proc from Tremorscale will have a 1 second delay and telegraph
  • Reducing the self-snare from Ironblood
  • Adjusting the 5-piece bonuses from nine other item sets
  • The Willow’s Path set will work with drinks and other buffs
  • The Shield Expert passive will grant 1500 resist when using a shield or Frost Staff
  • The Minor Slayer buff will no longer be removed when wearing multiple sets that give the buff
  • Optimizing a number of abilities to reduce the overall load on the server
  • Heavy attacking with melee weapons will proc weapon enchants or poisons as originally intended
  • Improving Werewolf attack weaving
  • Fixing a bug where resource drain poisons restore resources twice per tick
Any additional balance changes will come in the following PTS patch the week of August 7th. Thanks for all your feedback and bug reports thus far. We look forward to hearing what you think of the upcoming changes once you have a chance to try them out on the PTS!
Edited by ZOS_GinaBruno on July 27, 2017 9:23PM
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  • RoyJade
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    That's… really good ! Thanks a lot :D

    Can't wait for the natch pote now !
  • rhapsodious
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    Luv ya Gina. <3
    Adjusting the 5-pice bonuses from nine other item sets

    Hm, I wonder what sets these are...
    Edited by rhapsodious on July 27, 2017 7:22PM
  • MurderMostFoul
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    "Adjusting the 5-piece bonuses from nine other item sets."

    Sooooo curious!
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  • Toc de Malsvi
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    Bow?
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  • Feanor
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    It's really nice to see some of the very heated discussions in the PTS forum have born fruit for a change. I like it very much! Thanks and keep going in that direction!

    P.S. I'm also glad this is my posting #1000 and it has a positive cause :)
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 46 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Heh, took me a second :lol:
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  • DDuke
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    No bow changes and no medium armor changes - well color me surprised /s

    I guess the forum sorcs succeeded in derailing those threads & ZOS ignored them, as usual.
  • Liofa
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    Adjusting the 5-pice bonuses from nine other item sets

    I just will hope you didn't include everything from patch notes and actually fixing Infused instead of nerfing Torug's Pact .
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Heh, took me a second :lol:

    It will be his Christmas in July :smiley:
  • Feanor
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    @DDuke

    There is still time for the final PTS patch August 7th. And as much I'd like to believe ZOS listens to me, they surely do not...
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 46 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1700+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • DDuke
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    Feanor wrote: »
    @DDuke

    There is still time for the final PTS patch August 7th. And as much I'd like to believe ZOS listens to me, they surely do not...

    "There is still time", that's what I kept telling myself last PTS .


    If you look at this patch, it's just nerfs to proc sets (idc) & buff to another pet set option for sorcs.


    Whom do you think they listen to, the people who want buffs to the most underpowered archetypes, or the people who want everything to stay far below the meta top dogs (magicka sorcs) in the food chain?
    Edited by DDuke on July 27, 2017 7:44PM
  • Gothren
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    will maw of the infernal get the same cp buff treatment as shadowrend now?
  • Aedaryl
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    I hope ZoS didn't nerf Necropotence in a bad way and destroy the 2 pets sorc gameplay. I don't wanna leave the game :|

    Necropotence is overpowered on non pet sorc : NB shade unkillable, Warden necth unkillable but pets from sorc are killable.
    Necropotence need to work like this " Give 2k magicka per class summoned pet, up to 4k bonus" => Delete madness from proc set making proc necropotence, and nerf a bit all non killable pet users.


    Also, @ZOS_GinaBruno every patch you try to balance pets here is the way to do : reduce the cast time to a minimum of 1s instead of 1.5 s and make the command Y+ right (command to retreat pet) make pets PORT to the caster.

    A 1s cast time will make pets viable whitout deleting the death of the pets being a counter.
    And make pets port to you will resolve all bugs pets actually have, and greatly improve the pet gameplay (You take a second to use the command, meaning you are not using skills, ect, so it's a fair trade to have pets WORKING).

    Can @ZOS_GinaBruno speak about that to the combat team pls ?

    NB : Awesome change, thanks to listening our feedbacks <3
    Edited by Aedaryl on July 27, 2017 7:57PM
  • Sandman929
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    I'm a little disappointed that the destro train is still the top of the food chain in Cyrodiil, but there are some great changes in this next update. Looking forward to it.
  • Sandman929
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    Aedaryl wrote: »
    I hope ZoS didn't nerf Necropotence in a bad way and destroy the 2 pets sorc gameplay. I don't wanna leave the game :|

    Necropotence is overpowered on non pet sorc : NB shade unkillable, Warden necth unkillable but pets from sorc are killable.
    Necropotence need to work like this " Give 2k magicka per class summoned pet, up to 4k bonus" => Delete madness from proc set making proc necropotence, and nerf a bit all non killable pet users.


    Also, @ZOS_GinaBruno every patch you try to balance pets here is the way to do : reduce the cast time to a minimum of 1s instead of 1.5 s and make the command Y+ right (command to retreat pet) make pets PORT to the caster.

    A 1s cast time will make pets viable whitout deleting the death of the pets being a counter.
    And make pets port to you will resolve all bugs pets actually have, and greatly improve the pet gameplay (You take a second to use the command, meaning you are not using skills, ect, so it's a fair trade to have pets WORKING).

    Can @ZOS_GinaBruno speak about that to the combat team pls ?

    NB : Awesome change, thanks to listening our feedbacks <3

    PetPlars and PetKnights are finally going to be possible, and you already want them taken away?
  • altemriel
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    I wonder which sets will be nerfed this patch... :(
  • Ankael07
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    Please dont reduce the delay of Nerieneth too much. I dont want my pvp glory to be stolen by a proc set.
    If you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.
  • Doctordarkspawn
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    Hi guys,

    We want to give you a heads up that in next week’s PTS incremental patch, you’ll begin seeing balance changes specifically affecting item sets, including some 5-set bonuses and monster sets, and fixes for enchant/poison procs. Below is a preview of the balance changes we’re currently planning to include in the next PTS patch:
    • Increasing the item set proc delay from Selene
    • The summoned monster from the Maw of Infernal set will deal flame damage only, instead of having some attacks be physical and some flame
    • Reducing the item set proc delay from Nerien’eth
    • The item set proc from Tremorscale will have a 1 second delay and telegraph
    • Reducing the self-snare from Ironblood
    • Adjusting the 5-pice bonuses from nine other item sets
    • The Willow’s Path set will work with drinks and other buffs
    • The Shield Expert passive will grant 1500 resist when using a shield or Frost Staff
    • The Minor Slayer buff will no longer be removed when wearing multiple sets that give the buff
    • Optimizing a number of abilities to reduce the overall load on the server
    • Heavy attacking with melee weapons will proc weapon enchants or poisons as originally intended
    • Improving Werewolf attack weaving
    • Fixing a bug where resource drain poisons restore resources twice per tick
    Any additional balance changes will come in the following PTS patch the week of August 7th. Thanks for all your feedback and bug reports thus far. We look forward to hearing what you think of the upcoming changes once you have a chance to try them out on the PTS!

    The Tremorscale change is a nice way of doing things. Keeps PVE unchanged while making it a bit harder to proc in PVP.

    The shield expert change, we'll see about when it hits. If it covers the changes made to defending it'll be fine.

    The abilities your optimizing, I wonder what and how.

    Aside from this, I'm content with some of these.
  • runagate
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    Interesting. Some good changes there, some bugs I didn't know about but are shocking. Double-ticking resource poisons I certainly didn't know about.
  • Aedaryl
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    I hope ZoS didn't nerf Necropotence in a bad way and destroy the 2 pets sorc gameplay. I don't wanna leave the game :|

    Necropotence is overpowered on non pet sorc : NB shade unkillable, Warden necth unkillable but pets from sorc are killable.
    Necropotence need to work like this " Give 2k magicka per class summoned pet, up to 4k bonus" => Delete madness from proc set making proc necropotence, and nerf a bit all non killable pet users.


    Also, @ZOS_GinaBruno every patch you try to balance pets here is the way to do : reduce the cast time to a minimum of 1s instead of 1.5 s and make the command Y+ right (command to retreat pet) make pets PORT to the caster.

    A 1s cast time will make pets viable whitout deleting the death of the pets being a counter.
    And make pets port to you will resolve all bugs pets actually have, and greatly improve the pet gameplay (You take a second to use the command, meaning you are not using skills, ect, so it's a fair trade to have pets WORKING).

    Can @ZOS_GinaBruno speak about that to the combat team pls ?

    NB : Awesome change, thanks to listening our feedbacks <3

    PetPlars and PetKnights are finally going to be possible, and you already want them taken away?

    I don't want them to be taken away, the fact is that necropotence on demand is pointed by players here, and it will probably be nerfed soon... I just want to keep the only build that NEED it to work alive.
  • Ragnaroek93
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    Aedaryl wrote: »
    Sandman929 wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    I hope ZoS didn't nerf Necropotence in a bad way and destroy the 2 pets sorc gameplay. I don't wanna leave the game :|

    Necropotence is overpowered on non pet sorc : NB shade unkillable, Warden necth unkillable but pets from sorc are killable.
    Necropotence need to work like this " Give 2k magicka per class summoned pet, up to 4k bonus" => Delete madness from proc set making proc necropotence, and nerf a bit all non killable pet users.


    Also, @ZOS_GinaBruno every patch you try to balance pets here is the way to do : reduce the cast time to a minimum of 1s instead of 1.5 s and make the command Y+ right (command to retreat pet) make pets PORT to the caster.

    A 1s cast time will make pets viable whitout deleting the death of the pets being a counter.
    And make pets port to you will resolve all bugs pets actually have, and greatly improve the pet gameplay (You take a second to use the command, meaning you are not using skills, ect, so it's a fair trade to have pets WORKING).

    Can @ZOS_GinaBruno speak about that to the combat team pls ?

    NB : Awesome change, thanks to listening our feedbacks <3

    PetPlars and PetKnights are finally going to be possible, and you already want them taken away?

    I don't want them to be taken away, the fact is that necropotence on demand is pointed by players here, and it will probably be nerfed soon... I just want to keep the only build that NEED it to work alive.

    Meanwhile the duel spot gets wiped by a CP 500 petsorc. Please buff petsorc...
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  • Inig0
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    this is good! yay
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  • Cinbri
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    Can we get a hint on those 9 sets?
  • Sandman929
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    Cinbri wrote: »
    Can we get a hint on those 9 sets?

    There has to be some mystery
  • casparian
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    Cinbri wrote: »
    Can we get a hint on those 9 sets?

    There has to be some mystery

    I bet I know one:

    Shalidor's Curse
    When you deal damage with a light attack while under 50% health, your opponent has to find the Mage's Guild lorebooks all over again.
    7-day PVP campaign regular 2016-2019, Flawless Conqueror. MagDK/stamplar/stamwarden/mageblade. Requiem, Legend, Knights of Daggerfall. Currently retired from the wars; waiting on performance improvements.
  • SodanTok
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    Cinbri wrote: »
    Can we get a hint on those 9 sets?

    You could bet it is Leviathan and the magicka one.
  • Chori
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    [*] The Willow’s Path set will work with drinks and other buffs

    No wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, no f wayyyyyyy, I need someone to confirm this when the time comes please lol. Might be one of the most glorious days since the IC patch.
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    2. Magicka NB High Elf - Lîndara
    3. Stam Sorc High Elf - Lindara Moonlight
    4. Red Guard Stamina DK - Chorî
    5. Red Guard Stamina Templar - Choripaninikinnie
    6. Magplar High Elf - Vagitarian Sillonour
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  • nCats
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    SodanTok wrote: »
    Cinbri wrote: »
    Can we get a hint on those 9 sets?

    You could bet it is Leviathan and the magicka one.

    Sounds right, that was some insane crit chance. I also wonder if Spriggan/Spinner gonna get hit too, given the overall tendency to nerf pen.
  • Phlathead
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    Thanks for the preview!

    I feel Shield Expert needs a bigger buff though after the Defending nerf.

    Hopefully we'll see some class balance changes next. *cough* NERF EOTS *cough*
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