NA PC CALL 2 ARMS: DC and AD, SHOR NEEDS YOU!

Durham

I agree with the efforts here ... this game is the most rewarding when you run a small to medium sized group 8 to 10 is a sweet spot.. No lag everyone has a job and a role ... you can actually see individual contributions of each player... 8-10 people can do anything on the map... why do you need more in a group? You do not have to win to have fun... working together in this type of setup is rewarding in itself...

Zergs..are just numbers carrying the field with ults.. You can never see what's really happening with your team mates plus creating lag for everyone else around them.. Teamspeak is horrid.. Drama!!! People not listening more drama...People constantly saying stuff like they fully understand the game when they know nothing..Constant complaining about OP builds that are not OP which leads to a disagreement.. Much harder to make lasting gaming friends..

Guys we have added some really good folks in our guild in ESO but it's because our guild is small that we have developed our relatioships... We all know what each other does for a living ... what music they like... what movies they like... so much more personal ...

Rickter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k89u46KD20M

NBrookus

So @Rickter you had fun? Maybe it's not a dead campaign after all.

Durham

Pretty slow atm yellow just emp.. the server should pick at primetime... Red tried to defend some pretty good small fights...

disintegr8

Maybe you can get the DC players from Kyne - at least on PS4 NA - for the last few weeks they have spent a lot of time pop locked while AD and EP might have 1 or maybe 2 bars up.

And what is it with AD and DC ignoring each other a lot of the time to 'gang up' on EP?

I'm not fundamentally bound to any one alliance but have been on EP a lot because a friend has until recently only been running EP characters. But I have seen a lot of times when the other alliances work together, even fighting side by side, to make sure EP is beaten.

I was not in PVP a lot prior to a couple of months ago, so there might be a history in it, but it just seems to me that AD and DC have a shared hatred of EP.

Also, while I have characters in all alliances, I am not one for switching between them during a campaign, but I have seen a lot of it over the last few weeks in Kyne. I understand people can do it without any malicious intent, especially if the campaign numbers are unbalanced, but I am sure more do it for their own good.

Example 1: I'm fighting beside a player one day and then he ganks me with a character from a different alliance the next day, before switching again and telling us in chat how bad we are.
Example 2: Someone who was Emp yesterday on another alliance is suddenly on their character in our alliance, supposedly helping us get and keep Emp.

Is this what I should expect to see all the time in PVP, or are these 'rare' exceptions?

TequilaFire

And so it begins, the yellow hordes are overtaking Shor just like everywhere else.
Nvm this is a PC thread! lmao

Durham

Richter we came on around 10pm est.. and push back on the reds until about 11:30... Had fun ..

Rickter

I was on from 8-10:15PM EST. had a group of 8 tonight. picking up steam. felt like we could really influence the map but we never moved past Ales/Bruma/Dragonclaw. The three just kept getting lit over and over by red.

LOTS of red online last night. but it was really cool to see <Scourge Alliance> again! props to the wolves for keeping the tradition alive.

And in regards to whether im having fun - yes I am the last two days. But there are a lot of factors that would contribute to that. many of which are exterior to the actual campaign. I had fun on Almalexia which was arguably more dead than Shor! so jsut because im having fun doesnt really say much. if anything this is one big PR ploy to bring attention to the server. youre welcome.

and it does not negate or otherwise satisfy the argument that Shor will be a fake campaign. My argument, and the ONLY thing that will make Shor competitive, meaningful and not infamously known as an Emperor flipping campaign is what I said earlier: consistent community

I have always put community over content. always. because there is a bigger picture and thats the soul of what keeps you logging in day after day. thats your friends, your guild, etc. thats what a community is. events that focus on community are "community builders". skyshard hunting, vet dungeon clears, small-medium pvp and IC world boss clears - those are COMMUNITY BUILDERS. I am holding a pvp bootcamp this saturday to teach ALL cyrodiil basics. this isnt thrusting people into pvp. no. im teaching them what objectives are and what they do. im showing how to properly siege a wall. best places to siege, what skills benefit pvp depending on group size etc.

Im a builder. its what i do. and i have a [snip] good track record with one smudge in 3 years. [snip] fine record.

you need consistent guilds homing on the server getting invested and pushing objectives. not overflowers looking for lag free "good fights". Thats not community. thats freelance self fulfillment. thats why i was triggered because @ZOS_BrianWheeler enabled the de-investment of community orientation for Shor.

they catered to cry babies that did not follow through with what they said they would. that was to utilize Shor as overflow because vivec was oh so boo-hoo bad. no. you guys continued to pile yourselves onto Vivec just like Trueflame. ZOS probably should have opened shor at the end of Vivec campaign-cycle. that would have been smart. or maybe zos was just trying to get relief out to players crying so hard. but it was moot, because the crying was 80% staged

think about it: Big guilds cant play with each other when the queues are out of control. so they want everyone NOT in their guild to get off the server so THEIR guild can play at the same time. send them to the forums to cry for days on end til zos does something. notice there are no more cry threads, but Shor is still empty?

eep! i scare myself sometimes.

Dutchessx

As with Haderus, I wish I could take DR back there but from everything I hear there are too many EP on that server already. We enjoy running around 10 ish people.

Prince_of_all_Pugs

I wasnt online yesterday, hopefully tonight i can lead an AD PuG group open to all to get some action on the server.

Durham

Rickter wrote: »

I was on from 8-10:15PM EST. had a group of 8 tonight. picking up steam. felt like we could really influence the map but we never moved past Ales/Bruma/Dragonclaw. The three just kept getting lit over and over by red.

LOTS of red online last night. but it was really cool to see <Scourge Alliance> again! props to the wolves for keeping the tradition alive.

And in regards to whether im having fun - yes I am the last two days. But there are a lot of factors that would contribute to that. many of which are exterior to the actual campaign. I had fun on Almalexia which was arguably more dead than Shor! so jsut because im having fun doesnt really say much. if anything this is one big PR ploy to bring attention to the server. youre welcome.

and it does not negate or otherwise satisfy the argument that Shor will be a fake campaign. My argument, and the ONLY thing that will make Shor competitive, meaningful and not infamously known as an Emperor flipping campaign is what I said earlier: consistent community

I have always put community over content. always. because there is a bigger picture and thats the soul of what keeps you logging in day after day. thats your friends, your guild, etc. thats what a community is. events that focus on community are "community builders". skyshard hunting, vet dungeon clears, small-medium pvp and IC world boss clears - those are COMMUNITY BUILDERS. I am holding a pvp bootcamp this saturday to teach ALL cyrodiil basics. this isnt thrusting people into pvp. no. im teaching them what objectives are and what they do. im showing how to properly siege a wall. best places to siege, what skills benefit pvp depending on group size etc.

Im a builder. its what i do. and i have a [snip] good track record with one smudge in 3 years. [snip] fine record.

you need consistent guilds homing on the server getting invested and pushing objectives. not overflowers looking for lag free "good fights". Thats not community. thats freelance self fulfillment. thats why i was triggered because @ZOS_BrianWheeler enabled the de-investment of community orientation for Shor.

they catered to cry babies that did not follow through with what they said they would. that was to utilize Shor as overflow because vivec was oh so boo-hoo bad. no. you guys continued to pile yourselves onto Vivec just like Trueflame. ZOS probably should have opened shor at the end of Vivec campaign-cycle. that would have been smart. or maybe zos was just trying to get relief out to players crying so hard. but it was moot, because the crying was 80% staged

think about it: Big guilds cant play with each other when the queues are out of control. so they want everyone NOT in their guild to get off the server so THEIR guild can play at the same time. send them to the forums to cry for days on end til zos does something. notice there are no more cry threads, but Shor is still empty?

eep! i scare myself sometimes.

Give it a week... Several of us are on the leaderboards on Vivec in DeadWait... We went to Shore last night last night to get away from the relentless zergs... It was refreshing to fight much smaller numbers...

Also AD has not had q's this week on Vivec... Like I said we will be there...

Soul_Demon

Durham wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

I was on from 8-10:15PM EST. had a group of 8 tonight. picking up steam. felt like we could really influence the map but we never moved past Ales/Bruma/Dragonclaw. The three just kept getting lit over and over by red.

LOTS of red online last night. but it was really cool to see <Scourge Alliance> again! props to the wolves for keeping the tradition alive.

And in regards to whether im having fun - yes I am the last two days. But there are a lot of factors that would contribute to that. many of which are exterior to the actual campaign. I had fun on Almalexia which was arguably more dead than Shor! so jsut because im having fun doesnt really say much. if anything this is one big PR ploy to bring attention to the server. youre welcome.

and it does not negate or otherwise satisfy the argument that Shor will be a fake campaign. My argument, and the ONLY thing that will make Shor competitive, meaningful and not infamously known as an Emperor flipping campaign is what I said earlier: consistent community

I have always put community over content. always. because there is a bigger picture and thats the soul of what keeps you logging in day after day. thats your friends, your guild, etc. thats what a community is. events that focus on community are "community builders". skyshard hunting, vet dungeon clears, small-medium pvp and IC world boss clears - those are COMMUNITY BUILDERS. I am holding a pvp bootcamp this saturday to teach ALL cyrodiil basics. this isnt thrusting people into pvp. no. im teaching them what objectives are and what they do. im showing how to properly siege a wall. best places to siege, what skills benefit pvp depending on group size etc.

Im a builder. its what i do. and i have a [snip] good track record with one smudge in 3 years. [snip] fine record.

you need consistent guilds homing on the server getting invested and pushing objectives. not overflowers looking for lag free "good fights". Thats not community. thats freelance self fulfillment. thats why i was triggered because @ZOS_BrianWheeler enabled the de-investment of community orientation for Shor.

they catered to cry babies that did not follow through with what they said they would. that was to utilize Shor as overflow because vivec was oh so boo-hoo bad. no. you guys continued to pile yourselves onto Vivec just like Trueflame. ZOS probably should have opened shor at the end of Vivec campaign-cycle. that would have been smart. or maybe zos was just trying to get relief out to players crying so hard. but it was moot, because the crying was 80% staged

think about it: Big guilds cant play with each other when the queues are out of control. so they want everyone NOT in their guild to get off the server so THEIR guild can play at the same time. send them to the forums to cry for days on end til zos does something. notice there are no more cry threads, but Shor is still empty?

eep! i scare myself sometimes.

Give it a week... Several of us are on the leaderboards on Vivec in DeadWait... We went to Shore last night last night to get away from the relentless zergs... It was refreshing to fight much smaller numbers...

Also AD has not had q's this week on Vivec... Like I said we will be there...

I would think there are quite a few on leaderboards on Vivec who are trying to pull off one last win and leaderboards rewards as you are. Matter of fact, I would say expect a big change in population after camp is over.

Rickter

whoooo!! yeah DC is bottom of the board:



BUT I log into this:



Oh and EP just crowned Emp, its almost like, AD pushed DC back and flipped the map so EP could get another crack at emperor.

AD literally left EP completely alone and made sure DC was pushed all the way back so im logging in just to take my gate keeps back

yet ya'll complain on sotha.

Rohamad_Ali

Rickter wrote: »

whoooo!! yeah DC is bottom of the board:



BUT I log into this:



Oh and EP just crowned Emp, its almost like, AD pushed DC back and flipped the map so EP could get another crack at emperor.

AD literally left EP completely alone and made sure DC was pushed all the way back so im logging in just to take my gate keeps back

yet ya'll complain on sotha.

This just looks like EP players on AD alt accounts . When I see somethings happening that makes no sense for that faction then that's my conclusion . Remember EP is so over populated they can fill more then one faction to achieve goals .

Lord_Hev

Rickter wrote: »

whoooo!! yeah DC is bottom of the board:



BUT I log into this:



Oh and EP just crowned Emp, its almost like, AD pushed DC back and flipped the map so EP could get another crack at emperor.

AD literally left EP completely alone and made sure DC was pushed all the way back so im logging in just to take my gate keeps back

yet ya'll complain on sotha.

DC home keeps yellow on that photo have been yellow for the past 9 hours, because there is no DC pop on.... not because of a conspiracy of AD avoiding EP.

But yes, server is off to be very bad start. All 3 factions need pop on the same damn time. Whenever Monty and I log on oceanic time, we've been farming this DC group that keep trying to pvdoor crown. When we are offline, AD pvdoors the map. And then primetime US, EP is on to crown.

There is currently extreme pop imbalance all determined by timezone.

Rickter

all i know, is its going to be a long night for us. so far, shor is a 5/10

Lord_Hev

Oceanic time: Monty and I are pretty much the only AD on, there is sometimes a small group of potato AD that are not even CP capped. Some EP seasoned players that farm the AD potatoes. When they are not farming the AD potatoes, they are helping us team orange defend against the DC group of about 7 - 13 that try to pvdoor. The DC are usually farmed and thwarted by our combined effort, and then rage quit before US daytime.


US early daytime: EP gets a decent population. Around this time they crown and hold emp till about 11am EST. AD picks up around this time and bulldozes to emp by around 1pm EST.


US Primetime: EP gets a zerg and pvdoor dethrones AD, then crowns EP again.


Rinse and repeat. This has been the cycle the last 4 days.

Montayva

Rickter wrote: »

whoooo!! yeah DC is bottom of the board:



BUT I log into this:



Oh and EP just crowned Emp, its almost like, AD pushed DC back and flipped the map so EP could get another crack at emperor.

AD literally left EP completely alone and made sure DC was pushed all the way back so im logging in just to take my gate keeps back

yet ya'll complain on sotha.

An hour earlier than this and AD had the map completely yellow. Apparently an organised guild group came in not too long after Qam and I called it quits last night and painted the map yellow. Completely yellow. And then logged off. They weren't bias, just that EP had more people log on sooner than DC I guess.

The *** thing is that all those AD leave then just let EP steamroll the map. I'm sure those EP will leave soon and DC will do the same as they do every night -_-

Rickter

its sort of like, emp flipping .. .

DeadlyRecluse

I'd bring our AD smallman in occasionally, but it seems like depending on the timing we'd be just as likely to be helping the emp flipping as we would to be fighting it.

We'll still probably be in from time to time when Sotha is being stupid, but so far that hasn't alligned with nights when we have a group worth moving.

Rickter

if yellow doesnt have a lot of keeps, i apologize, but we are going for our scrolls.

good fights <Dead Wait> @Durham

totally ganked me while i was typing this at brindle

Rickter

so this AD guild, didnt catch the tag. . . had about 12 or so, overwhelmed my group, took the scroll and sent their unkillable infinite sustain mag warden to the water and dropped the scroll in the water.

I know thats an old thing, but is the ruthlessness and unsportsmanship like behavior necessary on a hurting server like Shor? what the [snip] was that anyway? some vivec bull[snip]?

Satiar

Nah we don't do that on Vivec.

Durham

Rickter wrote: »

if yellow doesnt have a lot of keeps, i apologize, but we are going for our scrolls.

good fights <Dead Wait> @Durham

totally ganked me while i was typing this at brindle

I was not with them tonight must have been @takuto leading them... I'm at hotel resort with my family... I will be on tomorrow night..

Minno

Rickter wrote: »

so this AD guild, didnt catch the tag. . . had about 12 or so, overwhelmed my group, took the scroll and sent their unkillable infinite sustain mag warden to the water and dropped the scroll in the water.

I know thats an old thing, but is the ruthlessness and unsportsmanship like behavior necessary on a hurting server like Shor? what the [snip] was that anyway? some vivec bull[snip]?

They wonder why Vivec has constant pop; maybe they should cool out on the griefing lol

NightbladeMechanics

Y'all need to stop worrying about population balance and campaign score. Maybe in time, more people will come to Shor and balance the population, but for now, just enjoy the lagfree PvP!

Did you expect any different? Some people are just never satisfied...

Rickter wrote: »

so this AD guild, didnt catch the tag. . . had about 12 or so, overwhelmed my group, took the scroll and sent their unkillable infinite sustain mag warden to the water and dropped the scroll in the water.

I know thats an old thing, but is the ruthlessness and unsportsmanship like behavior necessary on a hurting server like Shor? what the [snip] was that anyway? some vivec bull[snip]?

-rolls eyes-

Rickter

@NightbladeMechanics as far as im concerned you dont even pvp. So what does your opinion matter anymore?

IxSTALKERxI

Sounds like you need a group at the start of US primetime to defend/ farm the final emp keep from EP.

Prince_of_all_Pugs

Good gravy, i pvp'd for hours on my AD, there was LITERALLY no one online when i was on, prompting me to believe that this server is only active when flipping emp. The ep on this server seem to be very timid and they only seem to fight when they are at 2 bars at least. ugh, if we want this server to be healthy again we have to farm those emp traders, its not hard to break up the emp trading thing, all we gotta do is stop the crowning's by defending/ganking their siege.

DeadlyRecluse

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

Good gravy, i pvp'd for hours on my AD, there was LITERALLY no one online when i was on, prompting me to believe that this server is only active when flipping emp. The ep on this server seem to be very timid and they only seem to fight when they are at 2 bars at least. ugh, if we want this server to be healthy again we have to farm those emp traders, its not hard to break up the emp trading thing, all we gotta do is stop the crowning's by defending/ganking their siege.

What time does the actual emp flip happen, generally?