PTS Patch Notes v3.0.3

Weps

LonePirate wrote: »

Weps wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Weps wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

FloppyTouch wrote: »

ZoS do you really hate dks that much? pls just remove them from the game then

gg on nerfing BSW btw Mdks really needed a F U even more

MDKs were better off both and after this nerf if they used the Sun set, especially if they had gold Sun rings prior to 1T. Now Sun is clearly superior. Granted, being a MDK in PVP is still playing the game on hard mode; but PVE is still a walk in the park.

Sorry, but in no way Sun is better.

Spell crit is useless for damage dealers in PVP so the always on Sun set does more damage than the reduced spell damage and proc chance of BSW. Check the math.

It's not useless, it's not as useful as PvE but for a mDK, who doesn't have an exec, a crit whip means all the differences in the world. Plus you can actually buff BSW's spell proc even further reaching 700 spell damage bonus.
Plus Dk have lots of fire damage, that's true. It's not ALL fire damage tho.

It's funny how you think Whip crits make all the difference in the world in PVP given all of the heavy Impen armor, reduced Flame damage CP star, the reduced Whip damage in general in PVP and the extreme rarity of encountering the scenario where Whip meets the criteria to crit against another player. Sun has been and remains the better choice over BSW for MDKs in PVP. Yes, in PVE, Whip crits are frequent and powerful. They are neither in PVP.

So, the increased possibility of having your whip doing 1.5xdamage is nothing while having at least 200 spell damage less when you're whipping is something you can pass on.
Look, not trying to say it's a *** set because I wear'em both on my mDK but 1064HP is a bonus as strong as crit in this current state.

And there are no maths useful for PvP, c'mon, it's too much variable to calculate.
How can you put your opponent's skills into a formula? The environment? The lag?

mr_runaway_666b16_ESO

Kilandros wrote: »

This game needs a new Development team so badly it hurts. The current Devs are completely out of touch, have a stale and uninteresting vision for combat (Heavy Attack spam lulz), and continue to give nothing but lip service to the "Play the Way you Want" marketing gimmick while continuing to further shoehorn classes into defined roles.

At this point the best thing we can hope for is Morrowind to be a bust and have ZOS management acknowledge that the game needs fresh development blood.

this ^

Darlgon

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*]Added a new book, Lady Cinnabar of Taneth's “Who Are the Wardens?” to bookshelves across Vvardenfell. Wardens who read this tome will find its words will improve their knowledge of the Animal Companions, Green Balance, and Winter's Embrace skill lines.

Ummm... yeah.. can we get a book that upgrades ALL THREE skill lines for the other classes too? OR did I miss that somewhere.

technohic

ZOS nerfing NB, Dk, Templar like



Nerfing Sorc like



It's not even about who needs it. It's just the perception of how this is all going down.

Thal

So now you need essentially 57% uptime of BSW to equal Julianos. Wow, that was an evisceration of a set that many of us spent unthinkable hours farming. #unsub

casparian

Darlgon wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*]Added a new book, Lady Cinnabar of Taneth's “Who Are the Wardens?” to bookshelves across Vvardenfell. Wardens who read this tome will find its words will improve their knowledge of the Animal Companions, Green Balance, and Winter's Embrace skill lines.

Ummm... yeah.. can we get a book that upgrades ALL THREE skill lines for the other classes too? OR did I miss that somewhere.

What do you mean? The other classes already have books that level all three of their skill lines (well, at least NB, Temp, and DK do; I haven't played Sorc).

GrigorijMalahevich

Pirate Skeleton now is a must for any magplar in heavy... removing it from light armor builds and giving it to heavy armor - interesting

flguy147ub17_ESO

Thal wrote: »

So now you need essentially 57% uptime of BSW to equal Julianos. Wow, that was an evisceration of a set that many of us spent unthinkable hours farming. #unsub

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SodanTok

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

Thal wrote: »

So now you need essentially 57% uptime of BSW to equal Julianos. Wow, that was an evisceration of a set that many of us spent unthinkable hours farming. #unsub

Get ready to farm War Maiden now with the buff. Even without testing it, it has 100% uptime on all magicka abilities and switching the health to spell critical, i would be shocked if it isnt the best in slot for all magicka dps classes.

All magicka damage abilities. That is huge difference.

JimT722

I think many are confusing listening to feedback with acting on feedback. They will implement the changes that reflect their vision regardless of feedback. For example crown crates were overwhelmingly negative in their feedback on the forums. They just don't care what we say in regards to the direction they decide to go. They are only open to small tweaks.

templesus

All of you commenting on war maiden, you realize magic damage is separate from elemental right? Therefore it will not buff your weaves, elemental blockade, all of dks and most of sorcs abilities, vamp bane etc

WeylandLabs

Just give us ak47s and call it elder scrolls of duty smh...

How is Zos marketing this now ? Because it seems like a different game from PAX East ?

flguy147ub17_ESO

templesus wrote: »

All of you commenting on war maiden, you realize magic damage is separate from elemental right? Therefore it will not buff your weaves, elemental blockade, all of dks and most of sorcs abilities, vamp bane etc

Oh wow, man you are dead right. I will take my comment back that it will be BiS for all magicka dps classes. Didnt even think about that. So it will buff some abilites but many it wont. I was thinking any ability that uses magicka. But who knows with ZOS lol

Croblasta

So Julianos and Scathing Mage now?

benjamin.daprileb14a_ESO

Please ZOS at least put Burning Spellweave on the PTS now this week so we can test it. If BSW goes live and it is worse than Julianos on Magicka DK's than all of that time everyone spent grinding went to waste. I understand the nerf, I just hope we can test it on all classes to make sure it wasn't to much of a nerf.

Tanis-Stormbinder

War Maiden or julianos for Templars may be the way to go after patch drops

olsborg

Item sets balance is great. Those were needed.

But still no adjustment for shroud of the lich and amberplasm? Those sets are clearly too strong for your new war-on-sustain campaign currently. Hence the nerf to bonepirate.

I'll be waiting.

MissBizz

lordrichter wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

General

• Bow
  • Heavy Attacks now automatically fire when they are fully charged.
    Developer Comment:
    MissBizz released a video guide about basic combat including how to light/heavy attack,
    what these do and more, approximately *24* hours ago. She did include that bow heavy attacks work differently than other weapons. Due to wanting to ensure no guides from the PTS era were completely correct upon launch, we felt the need to mess with her too.

Fixed that comment for you. I'm mostly joking

I think a lot of people would really appreciate it if you could quickly roll out an in-depth guide on how to build and maintain resources after Morrowind comes out. If you could finish it about 24 hours before the next PTS patch, that would be great.

Yeah I'll get right now it! ..NOT. lol I even try to stay away from stuff that could get changed... *Sigh*

flguy147ub17_ESO

sodantokb16_ESO wrote: »

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

Thal wrote: »

So now you need essentially 57% uptime of BSW to equal Julianos. Wow, that was an evisceration of a set that many of us spent unthinkable hours farming. #unsub

Get ready to farm War Maiden now with the buff. Even without testing it, it has 100% uptime on all magicka abilities and switching the health to spell critical, i would be shocked if it isnt the best in slot for all magicka dps classes.

All magicka damage abilities. That is huge difference.

I was wrong i think man, it says magic damage abilites not all abilities using magicka. I totally misread it. So it wont be BiS for all magicka dps classes.

Beaveri

And how about DKs?

Krotha

@ZOS_GinaBruno

What are you giving Stamina Dragonknights to use in their damage kits? The DK ultimates are outdated and are rarely used if not bugged. Almost all the skills on a Dragonknight are underutilized in PvP with the exception of volatile armor, igneous shield and Take Flight. The rest are obsolete. I've had almost all my DK class abilities unmorphed for over a year now. The "changes" proposed to Earthen Heart passives rob the only viable ability to use, igneous shield. Battle roar is the fundamental core to a Dragonknight's playstyle and the proposed changes gut sustain. Changing the major mending buff destroys a DK's ability to sustain itself in combat. The shield strength is already too low so either increase the shield or replace the buff with minor mending and have it apply even when the shield is down. Before I start flipping tables let me be more specific about other class abilities:

Corrosive Armor - 200 ultimate cost for 10.8 seconds. Spell Wall 100 ultimate cost for 7 seconds of free block and reflect. Spell wall is more efficient, has more bang for the buck. Reduce the cost of corrosive (150-175) or extend the duration/increase aoe dot dmg. Changing the cost would resurrect this skill in combat.

Dragonknight Standard - Make this ultimate follow the Dragonknight around like an AOE. For how much this ultimate costs it can be easily avoided in combat and this change wouldn't effect PVE. It would also combo nicely with the brand new and underused chains. Glory were the days when standards were seen in open field, now all you see are destro ults zerg balls. Maybe apply a stronger snare on the standard to provide a greater chance of the ability applying the debuff. Dare I even say increase the range of effect??! 1 dodge roll = avoiding this ability all together. If keeping the standard stationary is the only option, increase the initial burst damage.

Take Flight - Increase the range. Fix the animation. Still bugging out and popping out of player's feet = stroke inducing coma. Not being able to take flight from a raised position is debilitating. If a player can throw a meteor on me while I am on top of a cliff or a raised position why not allow me to "TAKE FLIGHT" off the cliff and slam them? The most fun aspect of Take Flight was the vertical component to combat. I know the recent changes were to combat people jumping into keeps and exploiting gap closers but come on... it's TAKE FLIGHT NOT TAKE HOP

Reflective Scales - Change this to reflect all projectiles for a shorter duration. DK's are forced into using spell wall over this class ability Have the duration last 2-3 seconds so that it must be applied instantly to counter range but not long enough to reflect everything. Also increase the cost.

Choking Talons - Make this cost and scale off of stamina. Changing this would open up Duel Wield stamina builds and push DK's to avoid the block meta and run medium armor *Gasps* The duel wield passives will give extra damage to immobilized targets and the extra aoe mitigation will provide medium armor builds a chance to sustain and survive in a fight.

Ash Cloud - Give this ability a reduced cost and have it apply minor defile to all targets in the AOE. Haven't seen someone use this in over 2 years. Or maybe even bring back the old miss chance debuff? Why not have one morph give minor defile the other the miss chance?

Fragmented Shield - Increase the Damage this ability does. No one uses it. Make it worth while to lose the major mending buff.

Searing Strike/ Fiery Breath - Make both of these dots UNPURGEABLE. Just. Do. It. Decrease the damage if you must. Or rework Ardent Flame passives to allow for unpurgeable dots. I push this point because the stamina DK damage kit is very stale and primarily consists of dizzing swing spams. I would like to be able to use more than 3 buttons in combat.

Dragonknights, especially Stamina DKs are very one-dimensional. The class abilities need a major rework especially if the core kit to sustain a DK in a fight is compromised. A more detailed manifesto will be mailed to Lambert.

Please don't make us all quit.

*flips desk*

Krotha is Love.

Tanis-Stormbinder

The Sun set should be adjusted as well but that's just my two cents.

Ankael07

imenace wrote: »

LMFAO at the heavy bow change ? are you *** kidding me? how is this even possible? these *** devs are a joke, this will make ganking near impossible lmfao

Good change since bow heavy attacks doesnt have a sound indicator to the enemy and this adds a risk mechanism.Experienced gankers already know how to time their strikes anyway.

JHartEllis

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*]Removed idle animations for Target Skeletons. They’re not even alive, after all.

No, no, no! This is my favorite thing about them as a decoration--please reconsider!

This also explicitly contradicts the use of Animus Stones, which state they are "Used in crafting animated object, such as "living" combat dummies."

Malamar1229

Mrs Wrobel - "Hun can you toss some burgers on the grill for dinner?"

Mr Wrobel- "Sure." (puts hot dogs in the toaster)

JackDaniell

Bow
Heavy Attacks now automatically fire when they are fully charged.
Developer Comment:
Spoilerhide
Fully-charged Heavy Attacks will be more important with the resource changes coming in this update, so we want to make sure there are no gameplay barriers to using them.


Super confused as to how this change does anything but add a barrier to bow heavies. Yet again we have a unique functioning ability being homogenized into a fire staff for stamina.

Vaoh

Suggestion: Have a toggle in the options menu that allow you enable/disable forcefully casting Bow Heavy Attacks when fully charged.

Sedare

• Bow
• Heavy Attacks now automatically fire when they are fully charged.
• Developer Comment:
• Spoilerhide
• Fully-charged Heavy Attacks will be more important with the resource changes coming in this update, so we want to make sure there are no gameplay barriers to using them.

Put it back! Holding a bow attack is very useful in PVP and even PVE. PUT IT BACK!!!!

You guys are killing me.

Malamar1229

on the bright side, I can stop farming COA1

flguy147ub17_ESO

Croblasta wrote: »

So Julianos and Scathing Mage now?

Man i wonder if some of these changes are to make Julianos back viable. I know many people have wanted crafted sets to be more viable so this could be in direct correlation with that.